Phnom Penh

[Paolo99]

To Blanquiceleste and Sam Sanuk, thank you for your replies, they were very informative.

[Sam Sanuk]

The +$5 was for barfine or was it a tip? During my last trip girls at Alaska were very agressive. They were very unhappy that I entered and got out immediately of the bar, I'm pretty sure that some of them called me all kind of names in Khmer.

Do you guys do this kind of stuff? Going in a bar and going out straight after when you see nothing interesting, or do you just enter bars when you saw a cute girl outside?

I do this most of the time. And you don't need to be a keen observer to see that entering and immediately departing is routinely done by most bar crawlers. No problem. It's SOP for most guys. If the place doesn't rock your boat, move on. Attractive girls outside will certainly grab my attention and is more likely to get me to take a look inside. As far as payment is concerned, everybody has their own pay scale. Both the customer and the provider. And those scales fluctuate and are usually negotiable. $70 long time (and less) and $30ST has been acceptable for me consistently. I don't "tip". This is just my personal experience and is only to add to your knowledge base.

SS.

[Blanquiceleste]

The +$5 was for barfine or was it a tip? During my last trip girls at Alaska were very agressive. They were very unhappy that I entered and got out immediately of the bar, I'm pretty sure that some of them called me all kind of names in Khmer.

Do you guys do this kind of stuff? Going in a bar and going out straight after when you see nothing interesting, or do you just enter bars when you saw a cute girl outside?

As I reported, I walked into almost every single bar on 136,130 and 104. Obviously I did not sit down in each bar I entered. Perhaps 70% of the bars were just in and out within 30 seconds. And I had no trouble with it. My general rule of thumb for walking in and out are as follows:

- If there is no music playing.

- If the aircon is shut off / the place does not have an aircon.

- If there are less than 10 girls inside.

- If I spot more than 2 ladyboys inside.

- If I see an unruly gang of men completely drunk inside insisting on music of their choice (happened one night at Rose Bar).

The $5 was a tip for the girl.

[Paolo99]

Picked girls for LT from Alaska bar. Paid $70 + $5. Girls from 69 bar for ST. Paid $50 + $5.

The +$5 was for barfine or was it a tip? During my last trip girls at Alaska were very agressive. They were very unhappy that I entered and got out immediately of the bar, I'm pretty sure that some of them called me all kind of names in Khmer.

Do you guys do this kind of stuff? Going in a bar and going out straight after when you see nothing interesting, or do you just enter bars when you saw a cute girl outside?

[Paolo99]

Yes. I've been told that the Butterfly Bar, Candy Bar and 69 Bar on 136 have the same owner. Candy Bar and 69 Bar have been my "home bars" on about 4 trips into PP. Never had any problems at all. No bill padding, witnessed no fights between customers or between the girls.SS.

Did anyone ever been asked to pay 15 $ for barfine at Candy bar? I know the normal price is 10 $ but I was asked that price because the girl was supposedly a dancer there, though I never saw her dancing as every time I've been there she had already left with a customer.

[MonsterXX]

Hi all,

Travelling for 2 days in Phnom Penh. Please suggest place to stay that helps me to do mongering.

[Blanquiceleste]

I spent 3 nights last month in PP. Stayed at Point Boutique Hotel on Street 130. Lovely little place. Definitely will stay here again.

Picked girls for LT from Alaska bar. Paid $70 + $5. Girls from 69 bar for ST. Paid $50 + $5.

Walked into almost every bar on 136,130 and 104. Worst bar I have seen on this visit was The Corner Bar on 136. I liked a girl at Rose Bar on 104 but she was busy. The same thing happened at OneZeroFour on 104.

Also went to DD on 2 nights. Quite a few good looking girls there. Price discussions will irk some punters so I won't bother with the details.

Had a very good dinner one night with a couple of friends and the girls at some restaurant called 54 something. Great food, live music, cheap beer.

[Johnie]

I had a very unpleasant experience at Candy Bar earlier this year over Happy Hour prices. I arrived toward the end of Happy Hour and ordered a drink but was charged full price. When the bill was put in my chit container on the bar, the time registered on the bar chit was in advance of the Happy Hour conclusion buy clearly after checking my watch it was not. I questioned this at the time and had verification from 2 other customers and called for the manager. A most aggressive female came forward and defended the bar staff and the erroneous charge. I left immediately, not consuming my drink and only leaving sufficient Riel on the bar to cover the advertised Happy Hour price. I will never enter Candy Bar again even though I have taken girls from there previously.

Happy mongering, Johnie.

[Sam Sanuk]

Sorry for your experience. Butterfly Bar, Candy and the other one owned by the same lady have a lot of horror stories going back years. Pill padding, fights, all kinds of bad shit. They're best to be avoided in my opinion. Never heard anything good about any of them. On top of that 100 is a crazy price for a few hours of sleeping and one round of sex. Usually they only try it on if they work in a rip off joint or they don't really want to go with a guy. It is still very usually for bar girls to sleep all night with a customer for 30 to 50 dollars. For perspective you could've spent 30 at Cyrcee and got just as much sex with a better performer and then back to your room for a peaceful sleep without any arguments!

Yes. I've been told that the Butterfly Bar, Candy Bar and 69 Bar on 136 have the same owner. Candy Bar and 69 Bar have been my "home bars" on about 4 trips into PP. Never had any problems at all. No bill padding, witnessed no fights between customers or between the girls. Doesn't mean that it hasn't happened. I just never witnessed or experienced same. I never had a problem hiring a starfish from either of those bars. Performance, departure times agreed to were honored. Maybe I was just lucky? I like to believe that it is a combination of 40 years of mongering experience and careful vetting during pre-employment interviews that provides a measure of "luck". (And, yes, it is always a roll of the dice. I've been "had" a few times, but not in those bars. All in BKK.

SS.

[Rick Rock]

Had a bad experience with a bar girl from MrButterfly (see the photo below). Agreed LT for USD 100 at around 12 am. Back to room, had one shot and sleep. The next day morning 7 am tried to touch her for second round but she said she want to sleep so I was thinking OK, let's sleep for while. At 11 am, touch her again and request for another round but this time was told that she is 'don't have the feeling' to do it. Wake up and dressed up said want to leave. I was a bit pissed-off and told her I will only give her ST price. She refused and said that her LT definition is one shot and accompany me sleep till the next day! $% After much argument for almost one hour I finally give in for not wanted to created any unwanted trouble. Hope those who went to MrButterfly bar and bump into this girl to be more cautious with her.

Sorry for your experience. Butterfly Bar, Candy and the other one owned by the same lady have a lot of horror stories going back years. Pill padding, fights, all kinds of bad shit. They're best to be avoided in my opinion. Never heard anything good about any of them. On top of that 100 is a crazy price for a few hours of sleeping and one round of sex. Usually they only try it on if they work in a rip off joint or they don't really want to go with a guy. It is still very usually for bar girls to sleep all night with a customer for 30 to 50 dollars. For perspective you could've spent 30 at Cyrcee and got just as much sex with a better performer and then back to your room for a peaceful sleep without any arguments!

[Mufans]

Had a bad experience with a bar girl from MrButterfly (see the photo below). Agreed LT for USD 100 at around 12 am. Back to room, had one shot and sleep. The next day morning 7 am tried to touch her for second round but she said she want to sleep so I was thinking OK, let's sleep for while. At 11 am, touch her again and request for another round but this time was told that she is 'don't have the feeling' to do it. Wake up and dressed up said want to leave. I was a bit pissed-off and told her I will only give her ST price. She refused and said that her LT definition is one shot and accompany me sleep till the next day! $% After much argument for almost one hour I finally give in for not wanted to created any unwanted trouble. Hope those who went to MrButterfly bar and bump into this girl to be more cautious with her.

[Mufans]

First time step foot into Phnom Penh. Stayed in Secrets Hotel at St. 136 two block away from Route 136 bar. It is the old Lance Court Hotel after some renovation. I got offer from their website with USD52.5 Deluxe Room for 3 nights which is a bargain. Nice room with in-room safe which is my primary requirement for selecting hotel room.

You can get a SIM card at the airport when you come out from the arrival hall. All telcos have their counter in front of the arrival hall exit. I got one SIM from Smart for USD 6 for 20 GB (7 days) (claim by the counter staff there). Others like Metfone and Cellcard also offer quite similar package for USD 5 for 7 days.

Bar: went to bars along St 136, St 130, St 104 and St 51. Most bars offer happy hour draught beer at USD 0. 5-0.75 usually until 7 pm. However most good looking girls will usually start to come in around 7-8 pm with most crowded at 9 pm. Barfine USD 10 and lady drink USD 3. 5. Took girls from the bar one 2 nights, one from St 104 (Bar One Zero Four) and another one from St 136 (Mr Butterfly). The one from St 104 cost me USD 70 LT which turned out to be a good catch. Really accommodating and good attitude. Had 3 shots with her and leave at around 10 am when I told her I want to go to breakfast. Whereas the one from St 136 cost me USD 100 LT which was a disaster for me. Will tell me in later post. Personally I feel that bars at St 104 and St 130 have the best quality of girls. Look out for Angry Bird, Bar One Zero Four, Intoxica, Cheries. My POV, don't blame me if you got something different. LOL.

Shanghai bar at St 51 has few lookers too but you have to talk to them directly to check if they are going out with customer. Not all will go. Saw a SYT and try to hook up with her but it failed. Too bad.

Massage: went to Soul Garden City, Luxury World Hotel and St 252 Massage. Did not take any girl for whatever reason. Soul Garden seems to have better quality. Generally the charge is room USD 7-10 plus girl tips for the FJ. Girls are from either Cambodia or Vietnam.

KTV: went Naga World 88 KTV at level 2. Girls from Cambodia, Vietnam and Cambodia. Girl tips is 50 and LT 150,200 or 300 (varies on girls, tips will be waived), you need to ask the mummy specifically what is the particular girl's LT price. Took on Cambodia girl for LT 200. Overall OK, nothing to shout about. Johnny Walker Gold Reserve 750 ML USD 130 and Angkor beer USD 4/ can. Mixer is chargeable (coke / soda 3. 5) and each girl sit with you the KTV will charge USD 16 to the bill. Also surveyed Prince KTV and Cobra KTV. Generally girl tips 30 and LT 150-200. Saw quite a lot of lookers in Prince.

Freelance: Didn't go to much places except Naga's Darling Darling and area near to Naga hotel reception at ground floor. Quality quite good but did not get the quotation.

[ValentinoV]

Thanks for the answer.

Anyway any hotel that can allow us to bring 2 guest along in case I wan a 3 some.

[Franga]

Hi guys,

I'm going to Phnom Penh next month. Kinda confused with the currency. Are we suppose to pay in USD or Cambodia money?

And also any new guest friendly hotel to recommend?

It doesn't matter what currency you pay with. Either is equally acceptable. However you will pay your visa fee at the airport in USD.

However I find it easy to get money out of the ATM in USD (which will be $100 usd denominations), and then change a $100 usd note every few days at a street moneychanger into Riels. The riel notes that they give you are either 20,000 riel (=5 usd), or 10,000 riel (= 2. 50 usd). That way you have lots of small notes to make daily purchases in restaurants, markets, convenience shops, moto transport, etc. Or even for pussy, where I regularly give a chick ten 10,000 riel notes (= 25 usd).

The rate is more or less fixed around 4000 riels to one USD, and with a small spread on the buy / ask.

[Sam Sanuk]

Hi guys,

I'm going to Phnom Penh next month. Kinda confused with the currency. Are we suppose to pay in USD or Cambodia money?

And also any new guest friendly hotel to recommend?

Anything that is $1 or more I usually pay in USD. Anything less, will pay in riel. If something, like a tuk tuk or a beer is $1.50, I might pay $! US + 2000 riel. Mix and match as it were.

SS.