Jakarta

[Member #4794]

Don't be put off by the Muslim or local culture. Many quiet girls in Jilbabs have proven to be firecrackers when the time is right. 🎉 🔥.

Now that I think about it last time I stayed near Blok M I met this muslim girl on Wechat and no mention of money but she showed up at my hotel ready to do the deed. Seeming the ONLY reason she showed up was to have sex. The girls I've been chatting with lately drone me to death with talks pets and maybe your right they just want to practice english their entitled comments are a huge turn off. I am working on it.

[Member #4794]

Is there any chance that you are brown or from Indian ethnicity? Because usually its not that difficult to get to the point with ladies from Jakarta.

Last time I checked I was not brown, they don't grow them brown in Montana.

[KilledSoul]

Is there any chance that you are brown or from Indian ethnicity? Because usually its not that difficult to get to the point with ladies from Jakarta.

That is exactly what I do in other countries I haven't yet broken the code here most of my adventures have been in a professional capacity the women here are extremely cautious when it comes to dating and seemingly frigid. Flirting and fun seem to not be high on the agenda maybe their diet or culture that is preventing them from being open to love in general. Most of my talks with these girls on tinder and the other dating platforms are about fucking dogs & cats and their parents........ I'm happy with all the sex but the GFE would just be icing but I guess not entirely necessary but would be nice.

[Goferring]

That is exactly what I do in other countries I haven't yet broken the code here most of my adventures have been in a professional capacity the women here are extremely cautious when it comes to dating and seemingly frigid. Flirting and fun seem to not be high on the agenda maybe their diet or culture that is preventing them from being open to love in general. Most of my talks with these girls on tinder and the other dating platforms are about fucking dogs & cats and their parents. Anytime you bring up a hint of romantic flirting they slam shut,

Online anywhere in Asia, I'm very direct. I contact them the day of or the day before an intended meeting. No polite conversation for a month before I arrive. If I haven't got their number and an ok to meet in or near the hotel within the first 5 messages I move on. No point in endless discussions with someone who is just testing the water or practicing her English.

Face to face is a little different. She will likely be with friends and not want to appear a slvt. It can be much more worthwhile to TRADE numbers in the conversation and she can txt or DM later when she is alone. Don't be surprised if she gives out your number to another friend (s) who is more comfortable with the situation.

Don't be put off by the Muslim or local culture. Many quiet girls in Jilbabs have proven to be firecrackers when the time is right. 🎉 🔥.

[Member #4794]

If your looking to improve the cost / benefit for long term hookups, looking at less professional options would be a good idea.
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Having a few words of Bahasa will help but it's not a necessity as many will be keen to practice their English.

That is exactly what I do in other countries I haven't yet broken the code here most of my adventures have been in a professional capacity the women here are extremely cautious when it comes to dating and seemingly frigid. Flirting and fun seem to not be high on the agenda maybe their diet or culture that is preventing them from being open to love in general. Most of my talks with these girls on tinder and the other dating platforms are about fucking dogs & cats and their parents. Anytime you bring up a hint of romantic flirting they slam shut, my normal tactics and my extremely novice understanding of indonesian culture has handicapped me. I don't know about any one else here but I don't want to go on a date and spend 10 hours talking about pets the threat of that alone is enough to send me packing. None of these woman even have the courtesy to ask what my interests are or anything that would constitute dating this person. I must be missing something. I have landed girls that way in China, Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Thailand, Philippines, Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar, Vietnam, I guess the running theme is they are not predominantly muslim countries? I may not fit in here as I am finding out. I either find pros or extremely stuck up frigid women, I haven't fully be able to crack that code yet, I honestly don't know if I ever will, due to lack of time here and maybe party interest. This may or may not be a cultural gap I personally am not capable of bridging, but it would be nice to date a local girl with some amenable arrangement. By no means am I blaming Indonesia I know very well that love happens and connections happen here I just personally have not been successful when it comes to GFE. I'm happy with all the sex but the GFE would just be icing but I guess not entirely necessary but would be nice.

[Goferring]

Since LT costs so much here there is kind of a void that you don't feel in other countries like thailand, vietnam, philippines, Cambodia this place is mostly just sex I'm sure if you are more capable than I am this may not be true but from my personal experience from other countries and in comparison to this one this one can feel lonely even though you are drowning in sex.

Most of the girls don't speak english. (on the lower end of the price range).

If you don't speak indonesian conversation is almost nonexistent.

A good overview of the Jakarta scene.

If your looking to improve the cost / benefit for long term hookups, looking at less professional options would be a good idea.

1 jt per day may be scoffed at by a hardened pro but it would be a welcome addition to college fees or shop assistant salary. Mid range mall food halls can be full of groups of junior clerks waiting for traffic to clear after work before catching the bus home. Many are as gorgeous as any pro but without the attitude.

Having a few words of Bahasa will help but it's not a necessity as many will be keen to practice their English.

[Member #4794]

Indonesia (jakarta?) monger pros and cons as I see them.

Pros:

ST is extremely affordable ranges from $24-34 at the current exchange rate. You could possibly visit 5 shops a day and not really break the bank.
Also the more remote the massage places are ive also found that the women are hotter for whatever reason. not all of them offer the same stuff some of the shops have older women 35-50 some are 25-35 and some offer 20-30 the ones where the girls are 20-30 seem to be in more discreet locations. So paying MORE for hotter girls is not always the best move imo sometimes its just location and supply and demand. The hottest girl ive ever been with in indonesia was in this hole in the wall massage place and she was the normal 350,000 i would have paid five times that for that girl. Some of the shops have a line up and some of the shops you need to pick the girls from photoshopped photos. Ive also found that the ones without the line up is where i found hotter girls this may just be a coincidence or the time of day i went.

You have a wide variety of options for venues, personally I do not go the places where ST is 1 mil+ I personally just don't see the point as an american if I want to throw away money I can do it in luxury in las vegas and get more for it imo.

You get propositioned almost everywhere the key is networking these propositions they are after money so building a intel commission based relationship broadens your selection quite a bit. I offer an introduction bounty for any over 20 home body women that need extra cash. 9/10 times this works out best for me.

Food is extremely cheap. I subsist on $7 a day mostly nasi gorang and satay.

It is fairly safe to walk around at even 2-3 am not really an issue imo.

ST rooms are readily available range from $12-20 on top of the ST if pulling a free lancer.

ED drugs readily available. Stoped by some drug stores and asked viagra is sold OTC. And I've seen these stalls along the road that say OBAT on them selling some stuff but I would rather buy it from a pharmacy.

Cons:

This place is not as easy as going to thailand or phils and walking into a gogo bar and pahing the bar fine, in my experience there is a little extra effort involved and I wouldn't rate this country to be as noob friendly as the former 2.

LT is not as affordable as you would expect I've been quoted $104-171 and the girls can be kind of "annoying" outside of what you want to do with them. I'm sure this is some cultural issue but they kind of get int your stuff and rifle through your things so you are much better off with an ST experience I would also preface this with do not goto the normal foreigner venues some of the girls I pull are real green.

Police if you see them avoid at all costs.

These ST massage places are almost all shitholes don't expect anything luxurious unless your willing to pay to be a princess.

Since LT costs so much here there is kind of a void that you don't feel in other countries like thailand, vietnam, philippines, Cambodia this place is mostly just sex I'm sure if you are more capable than I am this may not be true but from my personal experience from other countries and in comparison to this one this one can feel lonely even though you are drowning in sex.

Most of the girls don't speak english. (on the lower end of the price range).

If you don't speak indonesian conversation is almost nonexistent.

Choice of hotel may or may not be an issue for some people but I've always stayed in a girl friendly hotel.

The mamasans in some of the venues can be extremely pushy if they haven't had many customers that day. (this might just be universal but this place isn't exempt).

Smoke Everywhere (these people smoke like chimneys, this is a personal con as I am a non smoker).

I'm sure I left a few things out and alot of this has to do with my familiarity of Indonesia or lack there of but I have mongered in MOST of asia and this is just my take on the scene given my experience level and expectations.

I would also add that even in Laos and Myanmar where the language barrier was also an issue i had more of a GFE experience than i do in indonesia While i get on average much more sex with many different women the quality of the GFE interactions is much lower for me than it is in other destinations. Normally i visit a massage place when i wake up around 2pm, then one at the hotel and then maybe a freelancer late night. all for around $100 usd in a week thats 21 different girls. Which is way above my personal average for a mongering trip. This maybe just be where i choose to monger however the other options drastically increase the price lessening the main reason why this country was on my radar.

[Member #4794]

Wechat, twitter and tinder all have been a bust for me this time around.

I have been to 8-10 different "massage" shops around mangga besar all of the quoted me 350,000 for body to body massage which I personally enjoy. The looks of these girls aren't like model quality I would say 6-7's at best. I also find that the chubby ones massage better the skinny ones do 0 massage and just get into the extras instead of the massage. There is usually a guy in there that knows if they massage at all the ones who are more skilled at the body to body massage are not usually very attractive but are popular more because of their skills. Right now I'm actually honestly more interested in the erotic massage aspect which is relaxing and not available in the states. Actually gives some solid added value to the whole experience and fairly inexpensive. A comparable soapy massage in thailand would be at least 2 x-5 x the cost of this so value is great. So over the past few days I had about 5 massages which came to about 2,500,000 total which includes tips is just 1 pull from the ATM. This area is kind of lonely in terms of interaction almost no one speaks english here you only really see passing foreigners in this area. But like I said the value is great. There is one more area to the west of here and one to the north I usually frequent which I will check out in the coming days.

[Wimble]

FWIW, it could be a setup between a cop and the taxi driver. Was the taxi driver on the phone or was he texting? I knew people who were shaken down but did not realize what was happening. They were not pretending. They were just really dumb and did not read the situation.

I have been shaken down several times but luckily I was with a local those times. They would take care of it or would quietly tell me to get leave so they can take care of the situation.

A common practice in the US is to setup speed traps in order to finance a police department. I have been issued tickets because of my license plates. You can argue if you are willing to travel back.

To which is he said "500,000 for me and my friend introduction money. " after which he repeated "introduction money" I didn't reply with any objections, I fail to see how I could have been set up by the taxi driver because it was literally the best route to get to the hotel via google maps. The "officer" has a few words with the taxi driver and we were off. But how common is this bullshit my other 2 trips were incident free.

[Member #4794]

I'm shocked they actually checked your pockets. I've definitely never had them do that.

I had all these plastic bags in my carry on because I like to seperate things that way and a modus operandi of drug users must be plastic bags so I can only assume that he was looking for drugs. Only reason I relented is that I have viagra and a few bottles of over the counter medicine in my bag. Although I do have a prescription and the rest are OTC how far would this "police officer" go to make his claim valid, plant evidence or falsify some information? If they are willing to take bribes I don't see a line where plating evidence is out of the question. Real disappointed with this turn of events that is why I stay out of central Jakarta but they spread up here for some reason for the asian games. That definitely is a black eye on this as a mongering destination. In 10 years in other countries in south east asia I haven't run into this level of absurdity, I have been involved in a few drug raids in thailand but they search you and let you go and a few raids in angeles city where they clear you out noon of this introduction fee bullshit. It seems like you can escape this by not being here for very long but if you spend any length of time here it seems like it gets worst as you discover more of Jakarta's underbelly. I have heard of random ID checks and they ding you for not having your passport but the first thing I handed this guy was my passport. Another thing they seem to be suspicious about is that I'm working in Jakarta and not on holiday. The officers other thing was that he was trying to imply that I was working in Jakarta on a travel visa. None of which is true of course. 3rd time is the charm kind of didn't work out this time. The only saving grace is that short time here is as low as 350,000 or $23 plus tip of course but there is almost nowhere else in asia other than maybe mainland China where you can find a deal like that with this quality of woman.

[Smoothy]

I got caught up in the philippines airport bullshit but after 5 days of bullshit I arrive in "wonderful" Jakarta. So I get in line for a bluebird and they have this ticket system that is 100% broken theres this guy in control of the taxis. And he is calling numbers in the range of 35-55 the ticket that I just got printed was ninety fucking three so an hour later I kind of pleaded with this guy to let me get in a taxi. So we get near the Mangga Dua mall and it is about 2 am at night and we get pulled over by indonesian police at a check point they set up. They asked for identification I had my taxi money out the first thing he asked was "Is that for me? I of course didn't reply and put it away I don't know about your guys's countries but bribing an officer in it self is a crime. So he says "are you in a hurry?" I say no you can check the bags and I have USB charging cables and he seems to be enamored with the cables. So he looks in my carry on finds nothing and now he want to inspect my main bag. So he checks my pockets and I'm on my way to the hotel so I had changed some money. He found the stack of cash and said "for me?" again. I then brought out 200,000 and held it up. To which is he said "500,000 for me and my friend introduction money. " after which he repeated "introduction money" I didn't reply with any objections, I fail to see how I could have been set up by the taxi driver because it was literally the best route to get to the hotel via google maps. The "officer" has a few words with the taxi driver and we were off. But how common is this bullshit my other 2 trips were incident free. I want to preface this with I assume this officer had a very deep drug problem as his eyes were bloodshot and he was extremely jittery, which also put me off in terms of reasoning with him. The police officer also said that they are out there because of the asia games.

I get to the hotel and it seems like delivery girls are always the ugliest of the bunch. You have to goto these shit holes and pick them yourself if you want to find a good looking girl. The ones that usually show up when they call it "delivery" if you have ever seen the movie spaceballs. The girls that show up are the spaceball stunt doubles of actual girls. Noses and faces all fucked up so of course it being 3 am I pick the less ugly one and get it done. 500,000 dmg for the delivery. Not the best start but only thing good about today is it only gets better from here.

You picked a very bad time to be in Jakarta. Lots of foreigners in town for the Asian games, so lots of naive targets ripe for shakedowns. Considering you were coming straight from the airport, you would also have your passport with you. That doesn't always help though. Those shakedowns don't happen often, but they happen. 500 k is a little much, but at least the exchange rate is good these days. I'm shocked they actually checked your pockets. I've definitely never had them do that.

[Member #4794]

I got caught up in the philippines airport bullshit but after 5 days of bullshit I arrive in "wonderful" Jakarta. So I get in line for a bluebird and they have this ticket system that is 100% broken theres this guy in control of the taxis. And he is calling numbers in the range of 35-55 the ticket that I just got printed was ninety fucking three so an hour later I kind of pleaded with this guy to let me get in a taxi. So we get near the Mangga Dua mall and it is about 2 am at night and we get pulled over by indonesian police at a check point they set up. They asked for identification I had my taxi money out the first thing he asked was "Is that for me? I of course didn't reply and put it away I don't know about your guys's countries but bribing an officer in it self is a crime. So he says "are you in a hurry?" I say no you can check the bags and I have USB charging cables and he seems to be enamored with the cables. So he looks in my carry on finds nothing and now he want to inspect my main bag. So he checks my pockets and I'm on my way to the hotel so I had changed some money. He found the stack of cash and said "for me?" again. I then brought out 200,000 and held it up. To which is he said "500,000 for me and my friend introduction money. " after which he repeated "introduction money" I didn't reply with any objections, I fail to see how I could have been set up by the taxi driver because it was literally the best route to get to the hotel via google maps. The "officer" has a few words with the taxi driver and we were off. But how common is this bullshit my other 2 trips were incident free. I want to preface this with I assume this officer had a very deep drug problem as his eyes were bloodshot and he was extremely jittery, which also put me off in terms of reasoning with him. The police officer also said that they are out there because of the asia games.

I get to the hotel and it seems like delivery girls are always the ugliest of the bunch. You have to goto these shit holes and pick them yourself if you want to find a good looking girl. The ones that usually show up when they call it "delivery" if you have ever seen the movie spaceballs. The girls that show up are the spaceball stunt doubles of actual girls. Noses and faces all fucked up so of course it being 3 am I pick the less ugly one and get it done. 500,000 dmg for the delivery. Not the best start but only thing good about today is it only gets better from here.

[NoGermaphobe]

Girls don't suddenly disappear when a complex shuts down. Where are most of the Alexis girls now?

Sexy pool at 1001/ Colosseum and Emporium.

[Jkt Jon]

Girls don't suddenly disappear when a complex shuts down. Where are most of the Alexis girls now?

Spread throughout other Venues, online, other cities, online, or back to their Kampung.

[Banana Boi]

Girls don't suddenly disappear when a complex shuts down. Where are most of the Alexis girls now?