Kyiv

[Michi T]

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I've also seen some older posts here about girls looking for guys at McDonald's in Kiev. Presumably there are a number of McDonald's in Kiev, anyone have any information on which one it is and if it's still worthwhile?

If you like to stroll, the perimeters are pretty narrow: there is a McDonald's on Maidan Square, and the other end of the zone is at Bessarabskaja Square, between is Krezhatik Street. If you walk slowly between those two points, you will see countless beautiful girls and women, none of them are professionals, but some of them will be willing to start a conversation. And from there many things can happen. Like in every other city, but with a lot more prospect imo.

Kreshiatik Street is the absolutely worst place to find girls.

[Michi T]

Depends on the girl I guess. 😂 Most extremely beautiful women in Kiev looking for men with money are surely.

Not waiting around at McDonalds. Those women can be found at Safe, Avalon, and Buddha Bar.

Partly agree. But the working girls in the bars / clubs you mentioned are more expensive!

[George 6969]

I am coming to the Ukraine since many years and still thinking of the good old River Palace Times and even earlier the good old 111 in Hotel Lybid. Ever since my mongering experiences in Kiev had been bad. I tried Avalon, now closed, Shooters, bad experiences, Skybar, normally empty and Buddha Bar, empty or overpriced. I even had been to Rio.

I try to avoid booking through the Web and now will go back to Kiev more often.

Maybe some fellows can provide me with some updated information.

Is there a new Club / Bar which is new and woks solidly and is maybe not crowded but not empty.

Which Internet Ladies can be recommended by you, I like MILF types of Lady, english speaking, ideally A level service, but this is not a necessity.

Thank you in advance.

[Arkiloko]

then get yourself a Stetson or Akubra wide brim "cowboy" hat and maybe some fancy cowboy boots and walk around one of the surburban districts, like Obolon or Pozniaki. You will get tremendous attention

If you walk that way in a suburban district, you will have tremendous attention even in Italy. But that's not always a good thing here.

[CuriousGmo]

I am going to be in Kiev in about a week or so for about 4 nights and was wondering how difficult it is to get girls into this hotel. Also, this is my first time mongering and appreciate all the posts and information. To that end, how far in advance do you need to call / book a girl? I am thinking about making an appointment when I arrive at the airport. Any and all advice you more experienced mongers can give me would be greatly appreciated.

[DramaFree11]

I would not waste too much time on the Night Clubs, but here my list.

1. Buddha Bar.

A. Love the place music and atmosphere amazing.

B. Local Girls can not afford this place.

C. When I was living there they were paying girls to go, plus commission, not sure about this now. Again the so called experts of.

Kiev leave these details out.

The. Guy Girl Ratio.

- normally 5 Guys to every girl.

- I have seen as high as 15-1 on weekend.

E. Working girls start off at between $200-300, not very good looking most of the time, average end of the night cheaper.

2. Famous cool place, some single girls on the weekend, but looks big, but not that.

3. The Bar, good place very small.

4. Safe too expensive, local girls can not afford.

5. see. Club best option, but very average.

A. not sure why you would want to fly across the world to listen to bad music, have terrible service and deal with Sex Tourists,(P. C.).

6. Shooters I would rather kill myself then go there. There was a time it was good, but that is over 5 years ago.

7. Avalon OK, some night, you need to have very low expectations. I read it was closed, but not sure.

There are some new clubs, but again, you will end of paying for girls one way or another, chance to pulling Freebies slim to none. The Girl-Ratio is just too bad now days. Sorry, the internet lies.

[Mpjsongs]

Thanks for the responses, I think I'll try a couple of the bars / clubs mentioned. I've just booked a girl from relaxkiev too but it's fun to go out in the evening and see what's there.

Re McDonalds I was just referring to information I saw online. I think it was in this forum mentioning semi pro girls hanging out on the McDonald's on K looking for foreign guys. Had no idea where that was and I've never been in Kiev before. Thanks for saving me the time of going there.

[Kozerog]

Let's think about this logically if you were a girl would you hang out at McDonald's, looking for Dudes. Think about it.

Everyone jumps on DramaFree11 for being negative, but as the above quote shows, he clearly has some sense and balances other people's excessive optimism.

I have some social activities that put me contact with young women who might be semi pro prospects if I ever have to replace my current jewel, but I will never ever share the nature of those activities with anyone, so please don't ask. Anyway, you'd really need to stay in Kyiv for weeks or months at a time and speak intermediate Russian to have advantage of them. But I will share one idea that might be useful.

If you are American or Australian or want to pretend to be either, then get yourself a Stetson or Akubra wide brim "cowboy" hat and maybe some fancy cowboy boots and walk around one of the surburban districts, like Obolon or Pozniaki. You will get tremendous attention. I know because I wear an Akubra hat myself in cold weather, and my first visit to Kyiv was in early spring. To weed out middle aged women, just stick to English only (assuming you also speak Russian, which most guys here don't, of course). It's then up to you to convert initial interest in you as a foreigner into a relationship with a semi-pro. It might help to have your apartment near where you intend to hunt for prospects.

You won't get "extremely beautiful" women this way but you will get attention from extremely young women, who are also pretty and friendly. 19yo and pretty and friendly is better than 25yo and extremely beautiful but not very friendly, for many men.

[UrbanCowboy22]

Depends on the girl I guess. 😂 Most extremely beautiful women in Kiev looking for men with money are surely.

Not waiting around at McDonalds. Those women can be found at Safe, Avalon, and Buddha Bar.

Let's think about this logically if you were a girl would you hang out at McDonald's, looking for Dudes. Think about it.

[UrbanCowboy22]

I assume they must be talking about the McDonalds on Khreschatyk street next to the metro entrance. I have been in this place hundreds of times, never have been approached once, never had any girl other than an employee give me any sort of look. I'm sure if you want to approach students and attempt to get numbers, perhaps it's possible but it's certainly not a prime pickup spot in my opinion. The metro entrance and exit next door is a high foot traffic area and you may have a good chance to attempt to meet women and get numbers but I've never just been randomly approached by anyone other than street beggars looking for money.

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I've also seen some older posts here about girls looking for guys at McDonald's in Kiev. Presumably there are a number of McDonald's in Kiev, anyone have any information on which one it is and if it's still worthwhile?

If you like to stroll, the perimeters are pretty narrow: there is a McDonald's on Maidan Square, and the other end of the zone is at Bessarabskaja Square, between is Krezhatik Street. If you walk slowly between those two points, you will see countless beautiful girls and women, none of them are professionals, but some of them will be willing to start a conversation. And from there many things can happen. Like in every other city, but with a lot more prospect imo.

[TeFab456]

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I've also seen some older posts here about girls looking for guys at McDonald's in Kiev. Presumably there are a number of McDonald's in Kiev, anyone have any information on which one it is and if it's still worthwhile?

If you like to stroll, the perimeters are pretty narrow: there is a McDonald's on Maidan Square, and the other end of the zone is at Bessarabskaja Square, between is Krezhatik Street. If you walk slowly between those two points, you will see countless beautiful girls and women, none of them are professionals, but some of them will be willing to start a conversation. And from there many things can happen. Like in every other city, but with a lot more prospect imo.

[Riina]

Let's think about this logically if you were a girl would you hang out at McDonald's, looking for Dudes. Think about it.

I can confirm your logic. I've been to the K McDonalds at least 100 times and never witnessed a working girl. However, the square out front is the very best place to approach girls for chat. The Metro is there and the girls will often wait for friends outside.

Tip: When you approach a girl, just assume she's a civilian and absolutely do not ever reference and pay for play. If a girl is interested in fun, it will bubble to the top quickly.

[Riina]

Also on the streets (Kreshatik), but allow me to remind us of the terrible fact that Ukraine has one of the highest rate of STD in countries with reliable statistic.

http://kievescort.club/escorts

Use a rubber and you'll be fine. If the action gets real hot, change your condom often between positions. Don't meet girls over 25, they're loaded with all kinds of risk.

If you really want to reduce risk, just use Kiev Escort Club. The girls are vetted. I've been mongering for ten years and never a problem.

[Guntherus]

I'm heading to Kiev this week for the first time. I've seen old information on other sites about many bars and clubs being full of working girls. .....
I know it's easier ordering a girl online from an agency but I actually find it more enjoyable to go out and find prostitutes / escorts.... Thanks in advance.

I would say, the clubs and bars in the centre have working girls, but they are jaded, worn out and probably will try to scam you. Caribbean, Arena, Buddha, Shooters, Forsage. But it can be easier for younger guys. A topic not so much discussed here, age makes a big difference. Also on the streets (Kreshatik), but allow me to remind us of the terrible fact that Ukraine has one of the highest rate of STD in countries with reliable statistic.

[DramaFree11]

Let's think about this logically if you were a girl would you hang out at McDonald's, looking for Dudes. Think about it.