Vienna

[Max #01]

No, they actually aren't. Clubs in Austria are not far apart. And for sure in Vienna they aren't.

I've walked between Feesh and FP. It's probably 1. 5 km. There is a big Lofthaus about halfway between them. They are only one stop apart on the small commuter rail you catch near Maxim. GT is. 5 km drom the S-7.

[Zorp 001]

Anyway, clubs in Austria are actually spread far apart. Wellcum and GT are about 4. 5 hrs apart, GT Lintz 2 hrs away from GT. GT has big oppotunity if the girl is looking to work there from outside the city. Just like many Germans willing to work in DV in Dusseldorf city.

No, they actually aren't. Clubs in Austria are not far apart. And for sure in Vienna they aren't.

[Massimo Potente]

How many swiss working girls have you ever come across, I have only one in the FKK areas.

I was going to come up with the same rhethoric question yesterday but then didn't because this is very off topic and really in my opinion the reasons why there are hardly any Austrian girls working don't matter. After all this is a fact that we don't have any control over. And of course the Austrian working girls exist, there are Austrian prostitutes around but in rare numbers. And it also makes no sense to ask where to find them because they are NOT some ethnic group that will come together at an isolated place or secret club or anything. I am sure that if locals who contribute here come across one, then it will be announced here alomst instantaneously. Last year there were 2 Austrian ladies working at Maxim and they were linked here so the network will do its job for sure.

[Delta Indigo]

I can see that the chances are low, but 1 or 2 in Germany isb't significant enough to make conclusive remarks. That number just tells us hardly any in the club scene.

As far as making parallel to Germany in regards to girls working away from their home, I have met girls working HR away. At GT from Koln or at DV from Koln. I have also met girls from Duss, working at Duss. Girls from Hamburg actually working in Hamburg. All kinds.

Another criteria in choosing clubs is how busy the club is, and they want a lot of clients on limited days they work. They also tend to move around a bit.

Anyway, clubs in Austria are actually spread far apart. Wellcum and GT are about 4. 5 hrs apart, GT Lintz 2 hrs away from GT. GT has big oppotunity if the girl is looking to work there from outside the city. Just like many Germans willing to work in DV in Dusseldorf city.

So your theory is just an assumption with no real data. As I stated above, there are variations, not ones single senario.

Two things I had stated, one about proximity, and there you have a point about Austria, although even though the distance is larger, Austria feels like a smaller place where people get around and more people know each other.

I have even met a Swiss girl in the Globe, the infamous Kim, I don't know if she is still there. So the point was that Austrian working girls do exist.

Now the second point is more important, Austria has a lot less poverty than Germany and Switzerland far less than both. So there will be less supply than in Germany, where due to the Hart IV reforms of Gerhard Schroeder after a year of unemployment money you are out of options. Furthermore Austria is more culturally conservative and Austrian girls would really hate to be outed.

All these three points work together in conjunction.

1. Small size of a country.

2. Conservatism, how bad would it be if people found out.

3. Relative wealth or poverty.

Point 1 is not only about distance, but the likelihood that you will run into people you know in other locales, extended family members or friends of friends, if point 1 was only about distance, how can you explain that there are Austrian working girls outside of Austria but one never found in Austria by anyone here.

Point 2 is far less severe in Germany than in Austria which is far more family oriented a culture.

How many swiss working girls have you ever come across, I have only one in the FKK areas.

Yes I do have a causal argument behind my observations and it is my best guess based upon familiarity with the locale.

What "real data" or observations do you have to back up an alternative theory?

[PussyLiccker]

I have come across Austrian girls in both Germany and Switzerland. Austria is a small country and the girls probably don't want to be outed.

I have come across 2 Austrian girls in Germany, the infamous Aileen and two in Switzerland. In Germany, most German girls don't work close to their home towns for the same reason.

Also I think Austria proportionately has a lot less poverty than Germany, hence less willing supply.

I can see that the chances are low, but 1 or 2 in Germany isb't significant enough to make conclusive remarks. That number just tells us hardly any in the club scene.

As far as making parallel to Germany in regards to girls working away from their home, I have met girls working HR away. At GT from Koln or at DV from Koln. I have also met girls from Duss, working at Duss. Girls from Hamburg actually working in Hamburg. All kinds.

Another criteria in choosing clubs is how busy the club is, and they want a lot of clients on limited days they work. They also tend to move around a bit.

Anyway, clubs in Austria are actually spread far apart. Wellcum and GT are about 4. 5 hrs apart, GT Lintz 2 hrs away from GT. GT has big oppotunity if the girl is looking to work there from outside the city. Just like many Germans willing to work in DV in Dusseldorf city.

So your theory is just an assumption with no real data. As I stated above, there are variations, not ones single senario.

[Massimo Potente]

I have come across Austrian girls in both Germany and Switzerland. Austria is a small country and the girls probably don't want to be outed.

I have come across 2 Austrian girls in Germany, the infamous Aileen and two in Switzerland. In Germany, most German girls don't work close to their home towns for the same reason.

Also I think Austria proportionately has a lot less poverty than Germany, hence less willing supply.

100% agreed.

As far as 4* Hotels are concerned the MOTEL ONE chain is good and all of them are located pretty central. There are many other good ones for sure. I wouldn't worry about the hotels not being escort friendly. 99% of them are perfectly ok with it or will look the other way when it happens.

[Delta Indigo]

I don't get it. In Germany, you can find some young German girls in clubs, but perhaps some of them got wrapped up with the wrong circle or gotten into drugs, most likely those types. Majority of the German girls in clubs these days are half Turkish girls or immigrant kids, and I'm interested in knowing thy that is the case. And I have met some pure Germans in clubs working for 50 Euros rate eventhough they can escort for more than twice the rate. Their reason is, number of clients in the clubs and the protection. I think protection is the most important, but I think they are fishing in clubs for big spenders for escorting. This makes whole lot of sense as escorting strangers is a real big risk, but getting to know a potential client in clubs creates a safe option.

Wouldn't Austria have a populous of Austrians like in Germany that somehow opted to work in clubs? I guess somehow, situation is different in Austria. Not even a minor chance to see Austrians in Austrian clubs is too different from Germany.

I recall way back (about 8 years ago), I recall seeing 50/50 Ro and Germans working in an apartment in Hamburg. They are all individual rooms, so why would Ro effect them? I could understand in club situations, but I see them as individual contractors that do not associate with Ro in clubs. I think it has more to do with management. More and more clubs are becoming Ro managed/staffed.

I have come across Austrian girls in both Germany and Switzerland. Austria is a small country and the girls probably don't want to be outed.

I have come across 2 Austrian girls in Germany, the infamous Aileen and two in Switzerland. In Germany, most German girls don't work close to their home towns for the same reason.

Also I think Austria proportionately has a lot less poverty than Germany, hence less willing supply.

[Darster]

Hello,

Can you name few 4 stars girl friendly hotels in Vienna?

I have never invited a girl to my hotel just because do not know how the receptionist would react to it.

Last time I was in Exe hotel in Ottakring, not sure if it is girl friendly.

[MonSooner]

I guess somehow, situation is different in Austria. Not even a minor chance to see Austrians in Austrian clubs is too different from Germany.

Another fact that could finally make you guys understand that as far as brothels go Germany can't be compared to anything.

This is super off topic yet again.

Credit to you though for some solid points. I am sure you are spot on with the remark Turkish background and some girls being wrapped up in the wrong circles and stuff.

[Jonn89]

The Laufhauses I've been to pretty much have the same concept, but there is a huge difference between German and Austrian Laufhauses in terms of price. In my opinion, Austrian Laufhauses are higher priced, but they often have better venues as well. A great example of this would be Laufhaus Zollgasse, which looks real nice but it is the most expensive Laufhaus I've heard of so far.

[Massimo Potente]

More and more clubs are becoming Ro managed/staffed.

Even that is way more severe in Germany over Austria. For instance basically all establishment in the center plus GT and FP are in Austrian hands / management. It's not for example OASE in Germany where pretty much every single person working there at the bar and restaurant is RO. Austria is still different that way, even Vienna which is very "multi / culti".

[PussyLiccker]

There is a Bulgarian as well: Breni.

But case in point. The vast majority are Romanians and that is one of the reasons why there are hardly any Austrians around. They don't want to deal with groups of them. Also the prices as they are / were don't appeal to them unless they potentially can make a guaranteed fortune without much of a hassle. Best chance to find an Austrian girl is in more expensive escort agencies, in Babylon and sometimes in Maxim, too.

That is Vienna but in smaller and more provincial clubs chances get a bit better.

I am sure the locals and regular posters here will gladly announce if they come across an Austrian chick anywhere.

I don't get it. In Germany, you can find some young German girls in clubs, but perhaps some of them got wrapped up with the wrong circle or gotten into drugs, most likely those types. Majority of the German girls in clubs these days are half Turkish girls or immigrant kids, and I'm interested in knowing thy that is the case. And I have met some pure Germans in clubs working for 50 Euros rate eventhough they can escort for more than twice the rate. Their reason is, number of clients in the clubs and the protection. I think protection is the most important, but I think they are fishing in clubs for big spenders for escorting. This makes whole lot of sense as escorting strangers is a real big risk, but getting to know a potential client in clubs creates a safe option.

Wouldn't Austria have a populous of Austrians like in Germany that somehow opted to work in clubs? I guess somehow, situation is different in Austria. Not even a minor chance to see Austrians in Austrian clubs is too different from Germany.

I recall way back (about 8 years ago), I recall seeing 50/50 Ro and Germans working in an apartment in Hamburg. They are all individual rooms, so why would Ro effect them? I could understand in club situations, but I see them as individual contractors that do not associate with Ro in clubs. I think it has more to do with management. More and more clubs are becoming Ro managed/staffed.

[Chubzy Maximus]

I think Laufhaus as a concept are fairly similar everywhere but exist mostly in the German speaking countries AFAIK. They are definitely not private flats because such are highly illegal in Austria and will be sooner or later raided by the authorities. We have seen this a lot lately. Laufhauses are often former smaller hotels, motels or bed and breakfast type of structures. I think Laufhauses are discussed here quite a bit lately, particularly Laufhaus Vienna and Zollgasse. The latter one mostly due to its quite central location and because it is brand new. Laufhaus Vienna is the most successcul one as far as all rooms being busy is considered success, which in my book, is the best indicator of success for a Laufhaus, without a doubt.

I am not surprised to read that all girls who you sessioned with were foreign and not Austrian. Finding Austrian prostitutes is a tough task, especially if you want one that is comparably gorgeous as some of the Romanian or Bulgarian ladies that you find at Maxim, Babylon, Goldentime etc.

So the answer is no, you will not find college girls in the Vienna Laufhauses or let's say that the chances to find them there are slim.

Thanks for the explanation Massimo. I wondered about these laufhauses and studios. I think in Germany there is an App (believe it's name is aloha or something) where you can find college girls who are non pros. Would be interesting to see if something like this is in Austria.

[MonSooner]

I talked to pretty much all Ro at the Laufhause and looks to be pretty much all Ro. There was one girl on the 2nd floor as soon as you step on the floor, she claimed Hungarian.

There is a Bulgarian as well: Breni.

But case in point. The vast majority are Romanians and that is one of the reasons why there are hardly any Austrians around. They don't want to deal with groups of them. Also the prices as they are / were don't appeal to them unless they potentially can make a guaranteed fortune without much of a hassle. Best chance to find an Austrian girl is in more expensive escort agencies, in Babylon and sometimes in Maxim, too.

That is Vienna but in smaller and more provincial clubs chances get a bit better.

I am sure the locals and regular posters here will gladly announce if they come across an Austrian chick anywhere.

[PussyLiccker]

I talked to pretty much all Ro at the Laufhause and looks to be pretty much all Ro. There was one girl on the 2nd floor as soon as you step on the floor, she claimed Hungarian.