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  1. #12110

    Which FKK?

    I am long time reader, first time poster. So firstly thank you to you all for the great info!

    I am looking to plan a trip in early December, however can only really fit in one destination so trying to decide where to go to and to which club so was looking for some advice?

    I have previously been to Artemis both on Fri and Sat night (Friday was much better!) and had overall a good experience for a first time trip.

    I prefer slightly younger 20-25 with pretty faces and quite enjoyed the large club feel of Artemis with lots of girls there. Also enjoyed the fact you could get some rest downstairs at Artemis in between sessions.

    Where would you guys recommend to try next? Where is the best LU at the moment?

  2. #12109
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Even I made come to work a girl for my friend who can t come to FKK land often, to please him. She came from nearly 80 kms, to try to work and it was difficult for her, starting only at 5 pm to try to resist only for few hours, then returning home to recover. I know she came because of my messages when she was not in good health to work. At least he was happy to see her, I felt guilty with her so I preferred to stop, I couldn't enjoy, but my fault.

    I also enjoy to meet a member at LR to who I advice to go to his good girls where they move, and one at Sharks even we don't meet often now because Sharks is not attractive casting for me and when I find a attractive girl, she doesn't stay, but from my experiences, as say some of my busy regulars: You are the most bullshit about, you get the most jealousy about You, we never heard this about any other guy we know, some guys: Germans, Americans, Asians of course, even French, are able to bullshit incredible things, often I have to make read to girls my real own writings to make them get the truth, then Megan, Kate did trust me, refusing to go anymore with some bullshit guys, or moving from Sharks. So I prefer not to meet other guys in clubs, I don t need them, I have my eyes and brain to work, I m only interested by beauties in clubs. Good point for me: Usually the prettiest are more interested by guys like me who treat them like women, when low level girls are not, nature do well, but have to work hard to find beauties in Germany, including YY. But I always succeeded and I know I m able to build attractive girls for my tastes for love in bed, and I don t need anybody else for this, just my manners and skill with women. My best game.
    One thing I do not do is ask other for opinion on service because this is each their own as I got good service from girls who has reputation of giving bad service and also vice versa.

    But I do ask about line up of clubs how beautiful they are and diversity, age range etc. As this is each their own, but it is more or less same direction as long as the man has fetish for fat girl or plastic monsters LOL.

    Communication skill plays part in FKK and bit of charm as girls are human too and has preference, but in the end I never forget that girls are there to make money for living, so money is central core of good session and I am willing to buy into mild upsell, but never rip off price, then I prefer 50 euro 30 min session.

  3. #12108
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    A girl who looks like a woman, not like a little girl or schoolgirl, with good body care, and who behave like a woman, not like a street prostitute hunting clients. Unfortunately, for money, sometimes woman types can become prostitute behavior, so I stop with them and they can be angry about me. 1 was really angry about me, saying I humiliated her because everybody knew I only came for her, when it was difficult for me to stop with her, but she never blocked me on whatsapp. I think she thought for months I would return to her, but I think she doesn't deserve anymore my money, when I m happy to spend my money with lovely woman types. To be fair with her, she was my best pleasure for months, a real woman type when we were together.
    Well for me I focus mostly on model type like in vogue magazine direction or sport illustrated direction.

    If not, hottest girl in university.

    As for girl who look like little girl, it is not my thing, but if it is hot girl next door type, then this will do.

    As for behavior I do not care too much as long as she looks good.

    As for service, it is combination of money and how much they like you as they too are also human.

  4. #12107
    Quote Originally Posted by Sybarite2006  [View Original Post]
    I am like Sirioja in the sense that I don't like generally to go with other guys to an FKK: I prefer to 'hunt' by myself. Sometimes, of course, might chat and have a short conversation with other guys there.

    I guess Sirioja means he like 'classy' women who don't act like working girls even though they are working in an FKK. I understand what he means I think. Saskia, ex Palace, or Martha, Harmony, are two women like that. Megan too at Globe is like that.
    I always try to help my friend when he comes to FKK land and again on last Friday, I think I made him a good present, I don't think she would have come for anybody else and really not a question of money, but I'm not interested to meet guys I don't know, I don't need, I had too many bad experiences with bullshit and jealous guys, I hate guys who ask details about girls. Each one own game, we are not brothers.

    About classy girl, as you know Globe, Kate there is all what I like for a woman when I don't see her on public exhibition, reason why I don't want to return to her, even she is great for me, since Sharks.

    Of course, I appreciate to meet very few guys.

  5. #12106
    I am like Sirioja in the sense that I don't like generally to go with other guys to an FKK: I prefer to 'hunt' by myself. Sometimes, of course, might chat and have a short conversation with other guys there.

    I guess Sirioja means he like 'classy' women who don't act like working girls even though they are working in an FKK. I understand what he means I think. Saskia, ex Palace, or Martha, Harmony, are two women like that. Megan too at Globe is like that.

  6. #12105
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    What do you mean by the woman type for you? Like model fit body type or in vogue magazine type like let say around age 20 to 25? Or hottest girl in university type around age 21 ? Or older woman type like around age 30 ?
    A girl who looks like a woman, not like a little girl or schoolgirl, with good body care, and who behave like a woman, not like a street prostitute hunting clients. Unfortunately, for money, sometimes woman types can become prostitute behavior, so I stop with them and they can be angry about me. 1 was really angry about me, saying I humiliated her because everybody knew I only came for her, when it was difficult for me to stop with her, but she never blocked me on whatsapp. I think she thought for months I would return to her, but I think she doesn't deserve anymore my money, when I m happy to spend my money with lovely woman types. To be fair with her, she was my best pleasure for months, a real woman type when we were together.

  7. #12104

    Better to be lonely in this business.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    Very well said, no negative energies or negative vibes are needed on this forum because the way of mongers are the happy roads with happy people.
    Even I made come to work a girl for my friend who can t come to FKK land often, to please him. She came from nearly 80 kms, to try to work and it was difficult for her, starting only at 5 pm to try to resist only for few hours, then returning home to recover. I know she came because of my messages when she was not in good health to work. At least he was happy to see her, I felt guilty with her so I preferred to stop, I couldn't enjoy, but my fault.

    I also enjoy to meet a member at LR to who I advice to go to his good girls where they move, and one at Sharks even we don't meet often now because Sharks is not attractive casting for me and when I find a attractive girl, she doesn't stay, but from my experiences, as say some of my busy regulars: You are the most bullshit about, you get the most jealousy about You, we never heard this about any other guy we know, some guys: Germans, Americans, Asians of course, even French, are able to bullshit incredible things, often I have to make read to girls my real own writings to make them get the truth, then Megan, Kate did trust me, refusing to go anymore with some bullshit guys, or moving from Sharks. So I prefer not to meet other guys in clubs, I don t need them, I have my eyes and brain to work, I m only interested by beauties in clubs. Good point for me: Usually the prettiest are more interested by guys like me who treat them like women, when low level girls are not, nature do well, but have to work hard to find beauties in Germany, including YY. But I always succeeded and I know I m able to build attractive girls for my tastes for love in bed, and I don t need anybody else for this, just my manners and skill with women. My best game.

  8. #12103
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    If best casting was before 4 pm, then Oase may really be down, even Roxana works on day now. No elegant with charm, woman type there for me. Can still find a very few, elsewhere. Most of Oase girls look don t even worth to pay 50 for me, compare to girls I had or still have. I m not into little girls, GND type. When I read less clients than girls, they should think about upselling. Smart girls don't upsell, but make business, with guys returning to repeat, but only a very very few WGs are smart.
    What do you mean by the woman type for you? Like model fit body type or in vogue magazine type like let say around age 20 to 25? Or hottest girl in university type around age 21 ? Or older woman type like around age 30 ?

  9. #12102
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    If best casting was before 4 pm, then Oase may really be down, even Roxana works on day now. No elegant with charm, woman type there for me. Can still find a very few, elsewhere. Most of Oase girls look don t even worth to pay 50 for me, compare to girls I had or still have. I m not into little girls, GND type. When I read less clients than girls, they should think about upselling. Smart girls don't upsell, but make business, with guys returning to repeat, but only a very very few WGs are smart.
    Agree no new girls, most are really looking like veteran prostitutes what they probably are, on a famous German forum one of the subject is "does someone anymore visit Oase", perfect summary of the situation.

  10. #12101
    Quote Originally Posted by Jnpr30  [View Original Post]
    When I put someone in the ignore list, I know I don't get to see that person's writings but is it not true from his side also? I had added one dude's name to my ignore list a few months ago, my first such addition. He was developing an unhealthy obsession with my comments, following me like a sick puppy and I felt it was better to sever that connection. Now, a friend/another ISG member informed me recently that this guy on my ignore list still keeps replying back to my comments. How is that possible? I would have thought we would be blind to each other's writings.

    At least, this confirmed my initial view that I was right to add that loser to my ignore list. Why anyone would want to extend the dialog with someone that explicitly chose to ignore you is beyond me.
    The ignore list would only work as you describe if the forum allowed you to post visible to only authenticated users and people not on your ignore list. As it is now, an unauthenticated person browsing the forum can see all posts and add a new post responding to someone who has placed them on the ignore list, thus defeating your intention. The comments are not linked to your original post but a reader with common sense probably subconsciously links them.

  11. #12100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    If best casting was before 4 pm, then Oase may really be down, even Roxana works on day now. No elegant with charm, woman type there for me. Can still find a very few, elsewhere. Most of Oase girls look don t even worth to pay 50 for me, compare to girls I had or still have. I m not into little girls, GND type. When I read less clients than girls, they should think about upselling. Smart girls don't upsell, but make business, with guys returning to repeat, but only a very very few WGs are smart.
    I liked situating myself downstairs at Oase where the dining area is, which is right next to girls changing room where they come out. This spot has clear view on girls face with good lighting.

    Where as Oase main bar upstairs has almost no light level dim lighting, so to avoid negative surprise once you enter the room and see close up of girls face, it is best to situate ones self downstairs where the lighting is good and girls comes out from changing room or get one of those military scope LOL.

    Hopefully they will make window or get better light in Oase up stairs main bar area.

    As for sharks, I love the set up and lighting seems good, but it is magic light of some kind because I made mistake before and when I go up close to girls and see her face real close, her face did not look anything like I saw from few meters away LOL, I called this FKK lighting magic LOL.

    Lighting magic is dangerous thing in FKK LOL.

    Bet lighting by far is Goldentime, big window on both side of room to avoid lighting magic to fool our eyes.

  12. #12099
    Quote Originally Posted by EscapeArtist  [View Original Post]
    Posting about it kind of defeats the purpose of ignoring it doesn't it?
    Very well said, no negative energies or negative vibes are needed on this forum because the way of mongers are the happy roads with happy people.

  13. #12098
    Quote Originally Posted by Jnpr30  [View Original Post]
    When I put someone in the ignore list, I know I don't get to see that person's writings but is it not true from his side also? I had added one dude's name to my ignore list a few months ago, my first such addition. He was developing an unhealthy obsession with my comments, following me like a sick puppy and I felt it was better to sever that connection. Now, a friend/another ISG member informed me recently that this guy on my ignore list still keeps replying back to my comments. How is that possible? I would have thought we would be blind to each other's writings.

    At least, this confirmed my initial view that I was right to add that loser to my ignore list. Why anyone would want to extend the dialog with someone that explicitly chose to ignore you is beyond me.
    Posting about it kind of defeats the purpose of ignoring it doesn't it?

  14. #12097
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Not always true. On two out of my last four Oase visits, daytime lineup was superior to nighttime lineup. But this seems to happen more often when weather is fine.
    If best casting was before 4 pm, then Oase may really be down, even Roxana works on day now. No elegant with charm, woman type there for me. Can still find a very few, elsewhere. Most of Oase girls look don t even worth to pay 50 for me, compare to girls I had or still have. I m not into little girls, GND type. When I read less clients than girls, they should think about upselling. Smart girls don't upsell, but make business, with guys returning to repeat, but only a very very few WGs are smart.

  15. #12096
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    Well Artemis was absolute my favorite when I began, then after about 6 years of going just there, I switch to Hessen, thanks to many members here for support for that.

    Then I explore NRW after and thanks many members and Vito for support for that.

    I also flew into Zurich one night to explore globe Zurich.

    This is as far as I have been to when it comes to FKK.

    Now I am commuting each cities in one trip like land in Frankfurt, then also do NRW via train kind of things.

    Now Hamburg is on my map, but I may return to Artemis after all these years or I definitely go to Oase again because I did go there, but my experience was mixed opinion about line up, though I did find two good ones to fuck, one was horrible service to my liking, but I also did not like upsell at Oase, I even found palace up sell more manageable, I guess I went in wrong year to Oase.

    However, I did not mind food at Oase back then LOL. They had few different pasta, and you cannot go that wrong with pasta, also pizza that I had to pay was OK, I mean you cannot go wrong with just baked pizza in stone oven and also coffee was so small, but it was good coffee, it was pretty much Italian touch and it was good and I liked stainless kitchen that I saw from where I station my self to hunt girl because girls comes out from kitchen area.

    Next time I am in Hessen I will go to Oase, palace and usually I take train to go to nrw for one night two days trip, because GT and LR being day club and ocean being night club, I can do three clubs just in one night two day FKK stay.
    You can save a lot of time, energy and may be money by renting a car, you can get very cheap proposal usually in terminal 2 in Frankfurt airport. I think the pizzas are free of charge in Oase.

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