German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[TankTank123]

To me, one of the merits of the FKK system is the tradition of showering on entering.

Not always the case. I have seen quite a number of German men heading straight into the lounge after changing. Some might have showered at home before coming, but I have come across a few who stank.

[Steve 9696]

Well I am relegated to Pussy Prison USA thru end of year. One minor US-based visit still ahead but it has no chance of making the list. So I am ready to count it down now. This is from a list of 28 girls so it's interesting the best of list is so concentrated.

Best hair. Kendall - Romanian. Diva Escorts. London.

Best eyes. Karina - Romanian. Artemis - Berlin.

Best lips. Thifany - Brazilian. Fazendinha - Campinas Brazil.

Best smile. Thifany - Brazilian. Campinas Brazil.

Best tits. Kendall - Romanian. Diva Escorts. London.

Best looking pussy. Dianna - German Latina. Agentur Liberty. Berlin.

Best kisser. Thifany - Brazilian. Fazendinha - Campinas Brazil.

Best Mish. Carolina - Brazilian. Casarao - So Paulo.

Best Cowgirl. Eduarda - Brazilian. Moustache - Campinas Brazil.

Best Doggie. Salome - Dominican. Artemis - Berlin.

Best Asian Cowgirl- Carolina. Brazilian - Casarao. So Paulo.

Best Duo. Cambria and Kendall -Romanian. Diva Escorts. London.

Best Titty Fuck. Salome - Dominican. Artemis - Berlin.

Best FIV. Rika - Japanese. Tokyo Hentai Club. Tokyo (now Erika at Kamikaze Girls Okinawa).

Best DATY. Honey - Japanese Phillipina Mix. THC - Tokyo.

Best Vibrator Play. Christine - Phillipina. Independent - Phoenix.

Best BBBJ. Thifany - Brazilian. Fazendinha - Campinas Brazil.

Best Bath Prep. Rika - Japanese. THC - Tokyo.

Best Overall GFE. Thifany - so much so that she flew to London with me in kind of an SB arrangement for a week. Unbelievable experience. Don't think it can ever be equaled.

A TRULY great year for P4 P for me. My heartfelt thanks to all the girls who do this and do it well. And my thanks to many of you who have gone before and helped me navigate foreign waters. Thanks guys!

[Polyamorist]

Now back at you. How do you know that the price of sex in Europe is not going down in the past years?

I mean the price of good sex because that is the only sex that counts. I know because I see I am paying twice as much as I was five years ago. I am no longer in Germany, ashukkru-lirrab. Even there it sounds like in many clubs 100 euros today will get you a 35-minute session with uncertain service.

As for the article, that kind of hysterical reporting promotes its anti-prostitution message by focusing on the low end of the market. It's like saying, "Let's close down all factories because we know sweatshops exist in China. ".

[Kosher Kowboy]

To me, one of the merits of the FKK system is the tradition of showering on entering. This means that if a girl complains about you being dirty, you know she is bullshitting and is just anti-sexual.

For sure, agree with that. Especially that first day after travelling 5 K miles. I check in to the hotel and than enjoy a nice shower at whatever club I go to. Fucking in Mexico, Central America, Jamaica, the Islands all entailed usually in brothel settings just going to the room. At most you get your cock vashed (like in the RLD) but was always hot or muggy out either way even in the Mexican winter was still always sweaty. In Barcelona and Madrid I arrived at the brothels sweating it was so hot out. Even an incall appointment in Texas here I take a shower at home but it is so fucking hot out most of the time always arrive sweating.

I find it refreshing to be able to go to a club, shitty or nice and shower first. And right after as well. Vashing is a merit of the system. It is all the various forms of Vashing and Nein Vashing that make the place so great

[Member #4585]

Presumably the intended meaning is

"Everyday 1. 2 million men in Germany buy sex."

You are not wrong.

That is a lot of Germans since they cannot be all foreigners or tourists or Turks or Albanians or foreign lorry drivers like a lot of writers imply on this forum.

[Member #4585]

By the way Sayyid Bitumen, about the article you are referencing, sorry, but I can't understand why guys on a forum like this would take it seriously. When so much in it is so obviously false (like the price of sex in Europe going down in the past few years for instance), why quote its statistics as if they were gospel?

I quote them since that is what is public and is used by public figures to support their stance on the topic. For us to ignore them is to our loss and feeling of disenfranchisement.

A lot of the things said in the article I have heard in some form, including the stereotype that Germans are more pushy for harder services since they consider the girls are doing a job. With the vast numbers of Germans one sees in the clubs with foreigners are in the minority, the industry drivers are locals. You even have said yourself that you do not see sex workers where you have to pay in advance for sex.

I agree with you that guys will not believe what they do not want to believe. It is like religion. One must have faith to see one through the long night.

Now back at you. How do you know that the price of sex in Europe is not going down in the past years?

What about Inflation? What about the movement of working girls from one or two countries to Germany and other places since the price of sex in those countries has dropped so much that it is not worth it.

[Polyamorist]

She said the opposite of the German men. She said they don't shower enough and I asked her ' why' as I kind of would think Germans shower daily and she mentioned it was something cultural dating back to water shortages after the wars and men becoming accustomed to limiting their bathing and apparently per her this tradition has been passed on thru the generations. I find it more comical than anything as I don't believe this German men not showering thing. That's like 70-80 years ago. Ancient history. I don't buy it but I am not the one fucking them.

I find it hard to believe too Freikösherkowboy. Maybe she has worked in some low-class places.

To me, one of the merits of the FKK system is the tradition of showering on entering. This means that if a girl complains about you being dirty, you know she is bullshitting and is just anti-sexual.

One thing I am opposed to is saunaclubs where they let clothed guys in during the evening and you get a mix of polar bears and the kontakt-bar crowd. That is messing with the system. You cannot make assumptions about cleanliness any more.

[Kosher Kowboy]

According to them the Turks behave like "animals" -- their word not mine -- and customers in general demand "everything" for just 50 euros.

Interesting perspective looks like it varies on the girl's end too. A WG in the Frankfurt area who has seen many years' worth of johns of all colors and races and shapes and sizes etc. Told me the opposite of the Turks. She described them ' as so nice', ' respectful' and mentioned they do ask for a lot for 50 but aren't pushy about it. She also mentioned they are very clean guys and shower all the time.

She said the opposite of the German men. She said they don't shower enough and I asked her ' why' as I kind of would think Germans shower daily and she mentioned it was something cultural dating back to water shortages after the wars and men becoming accustomed to limiting their bathing and apparently per her this tradition has been passed on thru the generations. I find it more comical than anything as I don't believe this German men not showering thing. That's like 70-80 years ago. Ancient history. I don't buy it but I am not the one fucking them. She mentioned also the Germans also ask for everything for 50 Euros but are much more aggressive about it than the Turks.

She said Tourists and Turks were her favorite johns. She left the Germans off. For whatever reason.

I have no opinion on the matter, just passing it on. I have seen many filthy and clean guys of both categories in the clubs.

[Member #4585]

Thanks for the info. I meant SB as Sugar Babes. I had a typo.

You are welcome Kuni042.

Nonetheless, you must visit a SpermaGame event.

You can find what you need here:

http://www.sg-parties.com/

Events happen all across Germany, but you can wait for the events in Frankfurt. One price gets you and you can fill your boots with what you want.

At least now you know what AO sex is too.

[Kuni042]

Thanks for the info. I meant SB as Sugar Babes. I had a typo.

What is a SG?

I think you mean SpermaGames. They are a lot of fun. Every hole is a goal.

Precious Princess is a term coined by the sage Optimist to describe the up selling girls at especially Sharks who require 100 euros or more before they even think about fucking you.

[Polyamorist]

Precious Princess is a term coined by the sage Optimist to describe the up selling girls at especially Sharks who require 100 euros or more before they even think about fucking you.

Salaam Habibi Bitumen!

I've bumped into several refugees from Sharks recently in Switzerland. Curiously enough, these girls all used the same word to describe Sharks: "shit". According to them the Turks behave like "animals" -- their word not mine -- and customers in general demand "everything" for just 50 euros. The club is packed with so many girls and so few customers it is impossible to find business any more.

Guys on here clearly have a different perspective. According to guys, the girls are acting like Precious Princesses -- not what you would expect them to do if they were truly hard up and the club were 80% girls and 20% guys as they like to claim. If the girls won't session with the civilized guys, then maybe it is understandable that all they are left with is "animals".

The one thing both sides agree on is that Sharks has gone downhill.

By the way Sayyid Bitumen, about the article you are referencing, sorry, but I can't understand why guys on a forum like this would take it seriously. When so much in it is so obviously false (like the price of sex in Europe going down in the past few years for instance), why quote its statistics as if they were gospel?

[Neurosynth]

In this article it says: It is estimated that 1..2 million men in Germany buy sex every day.

Presumably the intended meaning is

"Everyday 1. 2 million men in Germany buy sex."

[McAdonis]

I agree with much of what you say here and this post ties in to frequency (see Gypsy thread) , I think you can add some great insight ' to my problem'; but a good one to have.

I just skimmed briefly, but it seems your question is about how frequently you might attend sex clubs, if you were to move to Germany. It sounds like if you moved, it would be after you were retired. My guess is you would attend at least three times a week, but since you are not a tourist operating under time constraints, you would probably session much less per visit. Tourists will go to the room even if they are not that "horny". They will force themselves to session even if there is not a strong desire because (1) fear of missed opportunities, and (2) amortize those overhead costs (time and money).

I have seen the one million sex customers per day figure quoted by Bitumen. If this figure is indeed true, we can extrapolate, that the majority of those mongers are using non-FKK venues. For someone with a job and or family, they are most likely looking for a quickie on a weekday. It does not make financial sense to pay 65 EUR entry upfront if you only have time for a quickie. If one has an entire day off, you can use the wellness, eat, fuck a WG, rest and recuperate, and fuck another WG six hours later. That's when the 65 EUR entry makes more financial sense.

You can purchase property in some EU countries and get permanent residency. Just Google "golden visa".

In this article it says: It is estimated that 1. 2 million men in Germany buy sex every day. 18% are regular consumer, 80% have been in a brothel. These statistics far out weigh the statistics for other countries where the article says: The numbers all over the world prove it: "In England, you have 7% of the men who are sex buyers, in Spain 39%, 37% in Japan, 73% in Thailand." The comparison is that Germans are having way too much fun with their paid sex scene. It is very popular and mainstream like in Thailand at 73%.

I don't think the statistics prove that Germans are more addicted to sex, it simply proves that Germans may be more open-minded to the idea of paid sex and slightly less judgmental towards the act. But I would say that the average German man does not tell his boss, wife, or mother that he is going to see a WG. Does the article define the define "regular consumer"? That might mean once a month. Also, I could be drinking with friends, and want to sober up before I drive home. I decide to walk thru the RLD and take in the sights, but would I be considered a consumer, even if I did not purchase sex that particular day? The figure of 80 percent is indeed high, but like drugs, some people only have the need to partake once. And then they never try it again. I am not saying your assertion is incorrect, I would just like more context. Part of it could be the current laws and ease of access. In Germany, paid sex is available almost everywhere, so it is harder to resist temptation. If Germans actually had to travel and make plans, I would imagine those numbers would be much lower than 18 percent and 80 percent.

[Member #4585]

Hardcore mongers is a bit hard to define, but my definition is simply someone that earmarks a significant amount time and / or money to mongering. This includes traveling, following forums, and visiting brothels. It is hard to put an exact number on this such as days / hours / EUR spent at the club. It depends on the individual and their circumstances.

This article suggests a number for German regular visitors. I have already linked it in the Dietzenback thread but repeated here for ease of search and availability since fewer read that thread due to Dietzenbach club's specialist AO offering.

In this article it says: It is estimated that 1. 2 million men in Germany buy sex every day. 18% are regular consumer, 80% have been in a brothel. These statistics far out weigh the statistics for other countries where the article says: The numbers all over the world prove it: "In England, you have 7% of the men who are sex buyers, in Spain 39%, 37% in Japan, 73% in Thailand." The comparison is that Germans are having way too much fun with their paid sex scene. It is very popular and mainstream like in Thailand at 73%.

Link:

https://www.trauma-and-prostitution....hell-on-earth/

Then the making it a job in Germany comes out in the stories you hear from the girls when they are with a client. The article gives this familiar discussion as an example, but I have heard it before too directly:

The testimony says:

"the buyers of sex have become more brutal. That's from one day to the next. Nowadays, if you say, "No, I don't do that," You often get the response, "Come on; don't be so difficult, it's your job". Before it was forbidden to demand unprotected sex. Today, buyers ask on the telephone if they can [CodeWord140] on your face, wanting to do it without protection, wanting to do it anally or orally. These days, it's an everyday occurrence. Before, buyers still had a guilty conscience. That doesn't exist anymore today, they want more and more. ".

[Member #4585]

What "precious princess" are you referring to? You mean SGs are on the rise? I am having high doubts here.

What is a SG?

I think you mean SpermaGames. They are a lot of fun. Every hole is a goal.

Precious Princess is a term coined by the sage Optimist to describe the up selling girls at especially Sharks who require 100 euros or more before they even think about fucking you.