Pattaya Reports

[FL Hawk]

Actually I passed Nook to you since my super busty Asian mix girl showed up. I know she's not hot to you guys but she's the one I enjoy hanging out with the most at Palace. Unfortunately, she was girl #1 to be BF from Palace that evening. You still haven't met my #1 girl at Palace. The ex-Baccara girl I call Cat Ears girl. I still have yet to see her at Palace.

My apologies for throwing those girls on you. !

No apologies needed whatsoever! Really, it WAS funny! It only got a bit upsetting to me when the other girls came in with open hands. I am actually appreciative, as it has toughened me up a bit. It nearly happened again at What's Up last night, when I entered and the two girls from last week rushed over and sat down by me when I was with MonkeyPaw. He and I already has a system set up so that I could get out of buying frivolous LDs, but I basically ignored them and didn't need to use the system. I felt empowered! Haha.

[Mr Enternational]

IN Pattaya, EVERYTHING is either "sell cheap crap to farang" or "get farang drunk" or "rub and tug farang". And the expats just seem so. Morbid. Obesity, uniformity and sullen.

Dang man. Maybe you haven't gone as far as Walking Street or Soi Fuck Shop? That is nothing like the Pattaya that I know or the expats that are my friends.

[Lou32]

Lou32, which bars did you go to in Pattaya that turned you off so much? Did something in particular happen?

No one is going to argue that Bangkok doesn't have more culture, better places to eat, and more things to do than Pattaya but imo most guys who come to Pattaya aren't looking for any of those. They come to Pattaya for girls girls girls. I don't even consider Pattaya a city since it's so tiny.

I absolutely agree that the low life Cheap Charlies in wife beater shirts wears on you living in Pattaya.

It is just the overall "feel" of Pattaya.

In Bangkok there is a "real city" feel that I like. People going to or coming home from work. A pattern. At night people go out for drinks and eating. Not just sleeze but actual nightlife. But most importantly, people SMILE in Bangkok. There is a wide range of humanity in Bangkok including farang that actually seem happy.

IN Pattaya, EVERYTHING is either "sell cheap crap to farang" or "get farang drunk" or "rub and tug farang". And the expats just seem so. Morbid. Obesity, uniformity and sullen.

I know people will list all of the things that aren't sleeze focused in Pattaya but let's face it. New malls and family friendly hotels on the beach can only hide so much of the depressed atmosphere of that town.

[Turgid]

Especially true, when it is a prostate massage. I know of a case where an oldie was getting a prostate massage and the girl did that maneuver where she squeezes the tip to prevent the cum from squirting out. It is supposed to intensify the orgasm. Apparently, it was a bit too intense because it short-circuited the old geezer's heart. He expired due to a massive coronary......................

So sad he was coming and going at the same time.

[Blanquiceleste]

Interestingly, I had 2 CIM sessions with Chinese girls this trip (one in MAcau and one in HKG) and nowhere else. My Macau Rio Sauna "Chinese Super Model" was very attractive. I had 2 sessions with her on successive nights. The other was a Chinese Mainland Hong Kong 141 dot com hotel reservation girl. She was the last girl of my trip. I guess I was tired out both times and could not finish in their vaginas as I usually like to do. Both girls were real nice and they would not stop until I came. I like Chinese girls. They are different from SE Asian girls. As I reported, the hot ones are super expensive (out of this world expensive in Macau). BKK, Pattaya, Jakarta, and Manila girls remain my overall favorites although my time with the Rio Sauna "Chinese super model" was very memorable.

In my limited experience with Chinese WGs in China, the encounter can be a 12/10 or below zero. I have never found anything in between. The sex with non-hookers has been better than par for the course. But there is something cold about Chinese girls that I can't quite place.

[Banana Boi]

Anyway, BB's friend Nook (I spelled it Nuk previously) came over, then another girl came over for his guy friend. BB encouraged me later to buy a LD for Nook so she would not have to dance. I figured he wanted she and I to talk and get acquainted so I might choose to BF her later. Nook was indeed one of the best looking girls there. I did order the drink, but before it came, she left to dance! She later came back to gulp it down, telling me she had just been bar fined. I may have lost my investment on that drink, but I suppose I established some goodwill with her.

Actually I passed Nook to you since my super busty Asian mix girl showed up. I know she's not hot to you guys but she's the one I enjoy hanging out with the most at Palace. Unfortunately, she was girl #1 to be BF from Palace that evening. You still haven't met my #1 girl at Palace. The ex-Baccara girl I call Cat Ears girl. I still have yet to see her at Palace.

But then he finally took sympathy and agreed it was time to leave. I paid my bill and when I got my change back from paying the bill, it was 420 baht. Now, I would rather give a lady 100 baht tip than buy her a LD. That way, she ends up with more cash and avoids the calories and loss of mental coherency from the alcohol. Since I did have some fun with the three, I gave 100 baht to each of them. Then another dancer rushes over to hold her hand out. I am not happy as she didn't for me, but I give her 20. The server also hands out her hand for a tip. I had just left her a fair tip for serving the drinks, but now she wants more! The dancer I gave 20 to for doing nothing keeps her hand out, upset I gave her only 20 and not 100 too. I then had had enough. I took the 20 back and said I was tipping only those who had sat with me. Hands were still out when I stood up to leave. Sheesh. I won't be back there this trip!

My apologies for throwing those girls on you. I only know the one you liked the most. She is fun to goof around in the bar but I have never bought her a LD. I've never even seen the other 2 girls before. It was partially my fault for having them begging for tips. They saw me give a tip to my girl. You likely didn't notice my girl and I egging all the other girls to put their hands out, including the one who was on stage and didn't sit with you (I actually liked that one the most). My apologies. Was just trying to see how Jai Dee you were. My rule of thumb is that no tip is needed unless you like them. I have 5 regular girls at Infinity and I took you there hoping the petite cute one was there but she wasn't.

Don't give up on Infinity. It's actually one of the least hustle bars I go to. Girls are all friendly there.

As for tipping the waitresses, anything you leave in the tray is for the bar. If you want to tip a certain waitress, you have to hand her the money separately. I rarely tip a waitress separately as none are really hot enough to deserve a separate tip.

As for demanding more drinks, when you have multiple girls your drinks only last as long as the quickest drinker. Girls tend to drink faster in a group as one will encourage the others to hustle a Jai Dee tourist. I prefer 1 girl at a time and one who I have trained not to expect many drinks.

FYI, you left out our visit to Beach Club. I don't blame you since it was certainly not memorable!

[Member #4698]

Thanks for the update and you saved me a trip to China and Macau. I mongered there decades ago and had no problem finding shaved or closely trimmed pussy there. Had a Chinese girlfriend for a couple of years and she would not go two days without shaving it smooth as a cue ball.

Things change I guess. I hope the influx of Chinese punters in Thailand doesn't further speed the rush to unattended hairy Bush that has been cropping up lately.

Interestingly, I had 2 CIM sessions with Chinese girls this trip (one in MAcau and one in HKG) and nowhere else. My Macau Rio Sauna "Chinese Super Model" was very attractive. I had 2 sessions with her on successive nights. The other was a Chinese Mainland Hong Kong 141 dot com hotel reservation girl. She was the last girl of my trip. I guess I was tired out both times and could not finish in their vaginas as I usually like to do. Both girls were real nice and they would not stop until I came. I like Chinese girls. They are different from SE Asian girls. As I reported, the hot ones are super expensive (out of this world expensive in Macau). BKK, Pattaya, Jakarta, and Manila girls remain my overall favorites although my time with the Rio Sauna "Chinese super model" was very memorable.

[FL Hawk]

Day 7 - Sunday.

It was about 2 AM when I got into bed. I managed to sleep until 8:30 or so.

As usual, I had breakfast at the hotel, but as the sun was actually out, I then walked down to BR and sat down at one of nearby seaside bars for a cold Coke Lite. Then back to work on these reports before heading back to Soi 6 in the mid afternoon. I again walked there along Beach Road. Lots of people were out, which was good to see. But, with the sun, the temperatures were a little higher, but still not too bad.

Arriving on 6 I saw a very pretty girl at Halifax, which is one of the first clubs you come across on the west end. I headed over but several of the girls there recognized me and, from behind them, they fished out Nam, the girl that looked like a sexy college student who I had been with a few days ago. I think the girl I had been eying knew I had wanted her, but Nam was simply stunning and I temporarily forgot that underneath those clothes was a failing body. But rather than snub her to go with the girl I had wanted, I succumbed to Nam's hot looks. We went inside and talked a little and I teased her about her college style of dressing. She said she wanted to go to college and be an accountant. She was wearing glasses and I said she would be one sexy, hot-looking accountant. We went upstairs and it was all pretty much like last time. She still gave a slow, very nice BBBJ, and she was not put off by the bruising on my Johnson. I did not come and she remembered that happening our last time, and seemed perplexed by it. Oh well.

I wanted to try another girl, a new girl who was not a repeat. I headed east and knew I might be facing several girls that might come after me (Lucky Noi, Jen and Pat), but a man has to do what a man has to do when looking for new pussy. I went passed their bars with no call outs to me nor anyone chasing me down. I went most of the way east, then turned back west. I was attracted a pretty lady at Horny Bar. This is where I bombed with Mona two days ago. This lady, Lynn, was petite, being very short, but with a pretty face and legs. She might not have normally been my first choice, but I senses an energy with her, so I decided to give her a chance. I went in and she was became quite affectionate and promised a great BJ (on't they all? So I bar fined her. Naked, there was a mommy tummy, but her skin was otherwise flawless. I guess she was around 32. Her shower wasn't the greatest, only washing my gentiles. I have to take the shower head to rinse off my upper body, but she was quite pleasant and was smiling practically the entire time. She noticed my red bruise and was ok with it, then in bed she started out on one heck of a BBBJ. She licked the balls and took me in all the way. I am not a big guy, but in her tiny hands I looked to be huge. And guys, I will call this a JAV PSE experience. Her style of giving head is like in the Japanese porn videos and, while not always the best feeling, it was an incredible visual experience made all the hotter due to her pretty face and tiny hands. With the condom on she became very active and something clicked in me and I had a second orgasm in as many days. Wow. Like perhaps with Lucky Noi, the objective performance might not have been much different than the performance of others who tried, but something clicked in my brain I guess.

I left her with a smile and a me with a hungry stomach. I had tacos again on Soi 7.

I heard from Banana Boy to meet him and a guy friend at Palace at about 8 PM. I got there early and was stopped from entering. Huh, I am not Indian! Oh, they are still closed! Come back in 5 minutes, they said.

I went back shortly after 8 and it was already filling up fast. Until about 8:20, there were only two falangs present. Soon after I was seated a chain smoker was seated next to me. Ugh. I think the Chinese government should be very concerned about the smoking rate, as the toll on their economy when hundreds of millions start getting cancer in the next few decades. Anyway, BB's friend Nook (I spelled it Nuk previously) came over, then another girl came over for his guy friend. BB encouraged me later to buy a LD for Nook so she would not have to dance. I figured he wanted she and I to talk and get acquainted so I might choose to BF her later. Nook was indeed one of the best looking girls there. I did order the drink, but before it came, she left to dance! She later came back to gulp it down, telling me she had just been bar fined. I may have lost my investment on that drink, but I suppose I established some goodwill with her. The rule I have preached before is that until you actually pay the bar fine, the girl can be snatched away from you in a heartbeat. You can buy her LD and LD and then some uncouth guy across the room can give the mamasan 1000 baht and she will come over and take your girl away just like that.

Palace has their "models", which are dancers that perform topless. I don't think very many of them, if any, are more attractive or desirable than the regular dancers. The models appear to have bigger boobs, but must often times the rest of their bodies are bigger too! I counted about 25 models on stage at once, so Palace has a pretty big line up of girls.

But I think all three of us were a little disappointed at the talent that Sunday relative to the previous Monday. That hardly means the girls were subpar. Far from it. The vast majority was more than doable, but a couple of the girls we saw Monday who we were oogling over were not there Sunday. There was certainly a few that I could have easily chosen, to include primarily Nook, but none good enough that I felt I had to BF them immediately.

Next we went to Tantra. It was not nearly as busy as Palace. They have three stages and do a round of topless. Actually, I am not the most observant of what was going on and am not a good person to talk about such things. I concentrate on finding that hot girl I may want to BF. I did get a glance at a cute coyote girl that BB pointed out that I might consider later. (I get confused about coyotes, but BB said she would BF guys.) But I think all of use were disappointed.

We next checked out Sensations. This may have been where BB's male friend left us, so it was just BB and me. Sensations is a big club with lots of girls. Neither I nor BB were overly impressed however.

We next went to Happy. We very quickly left.

Next stop was Infinity. It was slow with relatively few Asian men, thus it was short in men, period. Perhaps as a result, we were accosted by some of the dancers. Three came after me. BB only had to deal with one. Two of mine were older, telling me they were 40. One had a set of very well done bolt ONS. I bought them all a LD and they sat next to me and on me and were having a good time. I had no interest in any of them and I got annoyed when they, included another dancer I was having nothing to do with, started hitting me up for more drinks. Once said if I bought her a drink she would not have to dance and she could sit with me. I told her she could dance and I would look at her. She remained cheery as she danced but told me the mamasan had been after them to get me to buy more drinks. After the dancing, I had all three girls back on me wanting LDs. I looked over at BB in exasperation, but he had his lap full of a woman he seemed to be enjoying, so he didn't care! Haha.

But then he finally took sympathy and agreed it was time to leave. I paid my bill and when I got my change back from paying the bill, it was 420 baht. Now, I would rather give a lady 100 baht tip than buy her a LD. That way, she ends up with more cash and avoids the calories and loss of mental coherency from the alcohol. Since I did have some fun with the three, I gave 100 baht to each of them. Then another dancer rushes over to hold her hand out. I am not happy as she didn't for me, but I give her 20. The server also hands out her hand for a tip. I had just left her a fair tip for serving the drinks, but now she wants more! The dancer I gave 20 to for doing nothing keeps her hand out, upset I gave her only 20 and not 100 too. I then had had enough. I took the 20 back and said I was tipping only those who had sat with me. Hands were still out when I stood up to leave. Sheesh. I won't be back there this trip!

It was 11:20 PM at this time BB decided he needed to depart. I walked with him by What's Up and decided to go in and see the original Noi as he walked on. I had no plan to BF her, but I still liked her enough to not just dump her. I went in and asked for her but was told she was out sick.

I walked around a little then decided to go to Red Car and see how it was doing. I managed to get there in time to get a chair by a table, and soon it started to fill up. I noticed more younger ladies have been coming in, and I noticed very few, if any, Asian men were there. I guess that is due to the no smoking policy there. I have said before, if a major agogo would ban smoking, yet had great girls, it would do well. Not all Asian men smoke.

I did see Fern the Nerd but we made no contact. I was watching a classic Thai spinner but saw a couple guys bomb out with her. I know the conventional wisdom is that all ladies who come her are free lancers, but that is not exactly true. If they are there alone it probably is, and sometimes two to four ladies will come together where one or two of them wants to get picked up but the others don't. This was the situation I found when I spotted a table of 3 young ladies, one of which didn't look too bad. She was fairly slender with nice legs and cute enough face. The one I liked saw me looking and gave me the eye and made a wavy motion with her hands, so I went over. She immediately started holding me so I knew she was mine if I wanted her.

It did not take too long for her to suggest we leave, saying she and her friends wanted to go to Lucifer and I would like to go? Sure. I then wondered if I would be hit up for drinks. As we approached Luficer's security, the girls all got out their IDs, proof they were all at least under 27 or so, and that Red Car is starting to attract younger women. Also, maybe the girls appreciate a club without smoke? Once inside, we found bar seats and I offered to buy a round drinks, hoping that I would not be hit up for more. I got my club soda but barely touched it. I knew I would be getting up a few times to use the toilet already during the night! But my worries about more drinks were unfounded as within 20 minutes or so she asked me if I was ready to take her home. I was and we left shortly thereafter. I asked about her two friends and she said they just wanted to drink a little and would soon be leaving together on their own. Again, proof that not all ladies who visit Red Car are free lancers.

Back at the hotel, we both showered individually and prepared for bed. She had told me she was tired and after a quick shower she got into bed and pulled the covers up. After my shower, I crawled in next to her and prepared to simply sleep. I was tired and would have been happy to just sleep, but of course there would not be much of tip for her in the morning! But she wanted sex (money) and started to play with me. There was nothing particularly great about her performance. She was ok with some light French kissing, and she like to touch and cuddle a bit, but she soon pulled me over on top of her with spread legs then asked me if I had a condom. I got up to get one, put it on and entered her for some rather average activity. She likely faked some moans, so I faked an orgasm. We cleaned up and then we climbed back in bed for sleep. She liked to cuddle and I think we, or at least I, fell asleep after a short while.

In the morning we basically had a repeat, but I faked nothing simply saying I was old. She went back to sleep and I tried to rest some more, as I have been getting by on maybe 6 hours of sleep per day. At around 9:30 AM I got up to do some work and writing on the computer. I was wondering if I was going to be stuck with girl, but she got up and 11 AM and left with no issues. I forget to give her name, but it is Ao. Not that I could ever describe her sufficiently so that you could go to Red Car and ever find her.

She was a nice girl but it was all certainly a business transaction. She was a rather average Thai girl for her age. Nice body and pretty face, but nothing exactly special about her. I gave her 1500, which is about what I would have paid for a similar girl on Soi 6. She seemed happy enough with it. I would expect to see her again in Red Car, but not sure I would recognize her! I really do have an issue remembering faces and names. Always have, so it is not due to senility!

So, to summarize this long day, I kind of got stuck with a repeat with Nam at Halifax for 1000 for her and I think the BF there was 300. Then it was a great experience with Lynn at the Horny Bar for the same (plus a 200 tip) and then an all nighter with Red Car pickup Ao for 1500.

[EihTooms]

China is where you should go if you desire a full uncut bush. I just left Macau and HKG where every Chinese girl I had a session with possessed a natural untouched, untrimmed, full bush. Why? 2 reasons: first, in China a girl with a natural hairy snatch is considered healthy and fertile and second, Chinese girls are more modest than their SE Asian counterparts and they prefer some cover.

Thanks for the update and you saved me a trip to China and Macau. I mongered there decades ago and had no problem finding shaved or closely trimmed pussy there. Had a Chinese girlfriend for a couple of years and she would not go two days without shaving it smooth as a cue ball.

Things change I guess. I hope the influx of Chinese punters in Thailand doesn't further speed the rush to unattended hairy Bush that has been cropping up lately.

[Blanquiceleste]

the girl did that maneuver where she squeezes the tip to prevent the cum from squirting out. It is supposed to intensify the orgasm.

It's called edging. Got one very recently in SG. Excellent technique. If done wrongly or badly it can be very painful and worse, it could damage internal organs.

All middle-aged and elderly mongers with pre-existing conditions should be prepared to die while getting their nuts sapped in a Southeast Asian knock shop or during a Viagra fueled session with an energetic young hooker in a hotel room.

Again, I don't see the relevance of the location. Plenty of such cases in Vegas and Central / South America all year round. No one cares when an old monger dies.

Death by banging young hookers would be a badge of honor to real mongers.

Absolutely. This is the way to go man. With your boots on, in the line of duty, right in the middle of action. And then no one cares.

[Dg8787]

Especially true, when it is a prostate massage. I know of a case where an oldie was getting a prostate massage and the girl did that maneuver where she squeezes the tip to prevent the cum from squirting out. It is supposed to intensify the orgasm. Apparently, it was a bit too intense because it short-circuited the old geezer's heart. He expired due to a massive coronary.

All middle-aged and elderly mongers with pre-existing conditions should be prepared to die while getting their nuts sapped in a Southeast Asian knock shop or during a Viagra fueled session with an energetic young hooker in a hotel room. Expired mongers do not get privacy in Southeast Asia, and more so, if they meet their end or experience a close encounter with the Reaper in the line of duty. The odds are good that someone back home will see the monger laid out in all his glory with the young hookers looking on.

I am wondering if the autopsy determine death by prostate tipper massage technique? The dead monger certainly couldn't tell anyone what happened. I doubt if the massuse said anything! Leaves only a lurker hiding in the corner to know what happened.

Death by banging young hookers would be a badge of honor to real mongers.

[Lefeu]

...Expired mongers do not get privacy in Southeast Asia, and more so, if they meet their end or experience a close encounter with the Reaper in the line of duty. The odds are good that someone back home will see the monger laid out in all his glory with the young hookers looking on.

I would not mind going out this way, at all. In fact, I have a buddy who is not even a monger, and he is always commenting that he would like to go out after an intense session. I am assuming that he will become a monger in due time. I already corrupted a few folks already. They love to hear mongering stories.

[Phazze93]

I think it's not appropriate to take pictures of situations like this and it's certainly not appropriate to post them on the internet. What if it was you lying there and someone else posted a picture of it? What if this guy died out there and people who know him find about that because of this picture?

LOL? That isn't really appropriate either is it?

Sry the LOL auto-all capped for some reason. But no lie, I did chuckle. I don't take pleasure from seeing that, but cmon now. Regardless of how old you are, take of yourself. Physically. Especially if you're going to subject yourself to a blood pumping environment like this.

[Chocha Monger]

Yeah those were really weird statements. Two years ago a buddy of mine in Pattaya was getting a massage and had a heart attack and died. It was his own fault though. The doctors kept telling him he needed a procedure and he would not get it. Plus those signs in the massage shop say that you should not be getting a massage if you have a heart condition. That shit is real.

Well then my friends that read Thai Visa would know that something happened to me and notify my family in order to make arrangements to find my ass and do whatever with me. At least that is how I see it.

Especially true, when it is a prostate massage. I know of a case where an oldie was getting a prostate massage and the girl did that maneuver where she squeezes the tip to prevent the cum from squirting out. It is supposed to intensify the orgasm. Apparently, it was a bit too intense because it short-circuited the old geezer's heart. He expired due to a massive coronary.

All middle-aged and elderly mongers with pre-existing conditions should be prepared to die while getting their nuts sapped in a Southeast Asian knock shop or during a Viagra fueled session with an energetic young hooker in a hotel room. Expired mongers do not get privacy in Southeast Asia, and more so, if they meet their end or experience a close encounter with the Reaper in the line of duty. The odds are good that someone back home will see the monger laid out in all his glory with the young hookers looking on.

[Mr Enternational]

I would not laugh at others' misfortunes, especially of this magnitude. The guy had a cardiac arrest while inside a gogo. I can't see what that has to do with Thailand's underbelly. It could happen anywhere, including Jomtien.

Yeah those were really weird statements. Two years ago a buddy of mine in Pattaya was getting a massage and had a heart attack and died. It was his own fault though. The doctors kept telling him he needed a procedure and he would not get it. Plus those signs in the massage shop say that you should not be getting a massage if you have a heart condition. That shit is real.

I think it's not appropriate to take pictures of situations like this and it's certainly not appropriate to post them on the internet. What if it was you lying there and someone else posted a picture of it? What if this guy died out there and people who know him find about that because of this picture?

Well then my friends that read Thai Visa would know that something happened to me and notify my family in order to make arrangements to find my ass and do whatever with me. At least that is how I see it.