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11-21-18 16:31 #3724
Posts: 1103Originally Posted by Arnold15 [View Original Post]
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11-21-18 16:17 #3723
Posts: 264I already mentioned Clarissa (Greece), 1 session, and Ella (Romania), 2 sessions.
I would have sessioned Clarissa once more if she had been available.
Note that these 2 girls may not be demanded by some men. I prefer at least (6-8) good looking, but with "calm personality" and good service attitude much more important.
Real bad: Mia (Romania). Wanted to have payment before room, "do not do this or that", after happy ending she said suddenly "goodbye" and went out of room, etc.
I was not even angry. I only laughed. Next day, she wanted another session, not understanding that the first was awful.
However, none of the girls were "unwashed".
For both Clarissa and Ella, I had to wait 20-30 minutes when they prepared themselves in the ladies room.
The system with coupons will soon be exported to Germany. Competition between clubs is fierce in Germany. I consider this as a good innovative idea rather than disrupting the market. In a free market, firms can use any entry fee strategy and observe which one works best.
Also outsourcing of restaurant to external firms in other clubs = increased efficiency. Now, you can decide how long you stay and how much you consume. Earlier you had to stay the whole day - otherwise entry fee would have been a big loss.
Food, I compare with other FKK:s in Germany. And it is good now at FP.
Originally Posted by MassimoPotente [View Original Post]
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11-21-18 16:13 #3722
Posts: 95Originally Posted by MassimoPotente [View Original Post]Originally Posted by Arnold15 [View Original Post]
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11-21-18 16:02 #3721
Posts: 737Interesting
Originally Posted by MassimoPotente [View Original Post]
About the late night atmosphere, I have never been there that long, into the late night, so I did not experience it, however when I first visited FP in 2013, some Austrian guys there were complaining about the atmosphere and clientelle at GT, I am not saying they were right, but these complaints happen at all FKKs.
Let me ask you one question, I do understand your point of view now and agree with a lot of it, however what is the second best FKK / Saunaclub in Vienna? I would always choose GT first, however all the reports of upselling has put me off a bit.
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11-21-18 13:08 #3720
Posts: 1103Originally Posted by Arnold15 [View Original Post]
Personally, I am pretty sure they aren't fake at all. FP has become cheaper as a parachute to survive. Had they become better they wouldn't have been forced to install the coupon system to begin with. The hygiene has not improved. Food has but now seeing that you have to pay for it, you needn't compare it to GT's food (which isn't good) or Babylon's food (which is outstanding) but to a normal restaurant instead. So, Food at FP was never good when it was free and now it is ok when you pay for it.
Here is an actual and factual example why comparing FP to any other of the clubs is not working: the same girl has worked Babylon Klagenfurt and Babylon Vienna, Wellcum (not in Vienna), Globe (not even in Austria), Maxim, GT and Funpalast. FP is the only place to which she appears with her hair not washed and her nails not done and nobody of the management will notice or care. Yes, there are more girls at FP now and more new girls there now, too. And it makes sense to go there every once in a while to check out what is new, I do it just as well. But girls go as they come. And there is way more to say critically if one wanted to discuss how girls come to work for a day and leave after a day but this isn't the place to give a philosophy lecture or an insight into the prostitution law.
If a club decides to disrupt the market by giving coupons away it is not likely that any real improvement can ever come out of there. Yes, total number of customers has grown significantly but to what end? This adds nothing to an aching market.
I am also critical of the other clubs because they have not at all dealt with FP's change of system as they should've early last year. I think they didn't take it seriously or something. But maybe I am too far removed with my own porfession to still understand the inner thinking of brothel managers.
One more thought. "Especially more clients who stay for short or medium periods (2-5 hours) at the club. " I am one of them and now I spend less time and less money at FP as I ever did before. I leave early because at later hours, particularly on the weekend, the atmosphere at FP has become predictably unbearable in my POV. The money that I spend less at FP now, I spend more at other places.
Arnold15, maybe it would be helpful to mention the names of the girls who you sessioned with and had a good time with and also point out the one bad apple for people to avoid her.
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11-21-18 00:55 #3719
Posts: 264Originally Posted by DeltaIndigo [View Original Post]
Or they have some kind of sexual fetish of being up-selled (at GT).
If you look at my recent report, it is obvious that these persons' reports about FP are "fake news".
I have visited +20 different FKK-sauna-clubs in Germany, so I know what I am talking about.
Fun-Palast has really become better.
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11-21-18 00:36 #3718
Posts: 264Fun Palast significantly better after new price structure!
On a work-travel to Vienna, I visited FP twice. Had not been there for 2 years. Two years ago, entry was raised to 90 Euro with the consequences of less clients and girls. So I did not visit Vienna for a long time.
New price structure:
* 80 euro in entry, but including a coupon worth 60 Euro for the first half hour. So real entry is 20 Euro.
* Food and drinks cost extra. Only water is free. But the restaurant is run by an external firm. Efficiency has increased. A good meal costs 9-15 Euro, a fanta 4 Euro.
* 5 Euro for 2 extra towels.
* The coupon is only worth 50 Euro for the girls. So the club "steal" 10 Euro from the girls from this coupon.
* Otherwise, prices for room services are not changed.
4 sessions during 2 (half) days. 3 great and 1 bad.
Clarissa (Greece) and Ella (Romania) highly recommended.
The total result at FP after the new price structure?
Excellent!
1) Much better quality of the food (also compared to GT).
2) A day at FP, now costs 40-50 Euro less for the clients.
3) Significantly more clients. Especially more clients who stay for short or medium periods (2-5 hours) at the club.
4) Significantly more girls, who can earn more money (since more clients).
Only negative aspect:
No girl wants to work early. Such girls will only receive "coupons" as payment and lose 10 Euro per room. Most girls turn up after 15-16 in the afternoon.
I will definitely visit this club more times.
The cost per day (including food and drinks) was 170-180 Euro.
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11-20-18 16:37 #3717
Posts: 579More details
Originally Posted by James124 [View Original Post]
Their website lists:
Included in my price.
"Two-sided NATURFRANZSISCH, traffic in the hottest positions, repeated coming possible, common showering, massage, kisses with tongue, breast erotic, finger play, dildo games & Algierfranz. With me, facesitting, striptease. ".
What services did you receive?
Any location can always provide a poor experience. Reading a German forum I do not see similar warnings but sad to hear of your visit.
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11-20-18 10:22 #3716
Posts: 1103Originally Posted by DeltaIndigo [View Original Post]
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11-20-18 09:10 #3715
Posts: 737Service at FP vs GT
Originally Posted by MassimoPotente [View Original Post]
I did get the feeling that FP was better for service nowadays, especially with all the reports of upselling at GT.
And contrary to previous reports, this does apply increasingly to locals as well.
So why the comment that the customer is especially not king at FP, when he really is not at all king at GT with all the upselling? Off course the lineup at GT is way better, but the service?
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11-19-18 20:59 #3714
Posts: 2Originally Posted by NemanLion [View Original Post]
Can you please advise who this lady is and how to find her?
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11-19-18 20:53 #3713
Posts: 2Gt.
Hi all,
I used to live in Vienna and I have had a few visits at GT in the past when I was still innocent and unaware of the forum but I have been away for over 2 years.
I will be visiting this December and was looking forward to Goldentime but I am increasingly concerned about the upselling situation.
I am not in my element in a FKK and I am pushing myself already so to have to "negotiate" rates sounds a bit out there.
I read a lot about extra for OWO and DFK. Can I have only the DFK and how much upsell should I calculate? €20?
Also if I go for the full hour does this include OWO and DFK or they are still extra?
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11-19-18 14:17 #3712
Posts: 95Originally Posted by James124 [View Original Post]
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11-19-18 01:28 #3711
Posts: 1Studio Relaxe Lounge. A big trap!
A bit of diversion from big names. Tried Studio Relaxe Lounge which turned out to be a total disaster.
Was promised for all services as mentioned on their website, I confirmed after reaching there again.
Engaged services for one hour and paid the full price, however within few minutes girl told me she is not going to do what she promised outside.
As I did not finish in first few minutes she literally went mad. As it was not working as per her crooked plan!
She said she can not wait more than 5 minutes if I do not finish. And Alas. I was about to. But after her behavior. I could not. She left. !!
And of course complaints to the housekeeper received all very well prepared answers.
My request to all do not fall into this Trap and avoid this place. There are many better studios and houses here.
Wish you a very Happy Sexpedition!
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11-17-18 11:05 #3710
Posts: 297Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
After that of course the amount to pay the ladies differs greatly but that is just 2 systems that shouldn't be compared anyway. If 550 is too much (it is for most guys including me most of the time) for you then they are still pulling it off without you. With respect to Babylon's history and present position in the sex market many guys just don't have the Intel to make an objective assessment. Also beauty is not the only variable that defines the line-up of a high-scale establishment like be. To all intents and purposes, I also recommend to not seek comparison between an FKK and Babylon. And more so don't compare FP with it.
That's all from me, over and out!