Pattaya Reports

[FL Hawk]

Day 14 Sunday.

I wake up and realize I have 4 more days in Pattaya and I need to get out of this funk and bang some more women! MP and Phazze are going to have lunch at Hooters, so I joined them. I have full breakfasts at the hotel, but I figured I would have a coke with them. I ended up with curly fries as well. I think Hooters in Pattaya has to be as expensive as in the USA. Waitresses are cute but nothing special. MP and I head to Soi 6 and go in to Night Wish. We both find girls to BF. I like Ail. She is a larger girl but still well proportioned. She is 22, but when naked her A breasts were exposed. She gave an incomplete shower, but at least she liked to kiss. Her BJ was short but she loved doggie. She did try really hard to get me to come and I finally had to stop her. Why couldn't Tong, who was 4 x the cost, try a little harder like this girl?? MP had chosen Ton to BF. He scared me for a second about us all sharing a single room! Haha. I might have been willing if we could have shared the girls!

He was waiting when I came down. Ail and I had done some cuddling at the end, which is always nice. He was done, but I walked with him to the west end of the street to see him off, and for me to get a start and heading back for another girl. In walking back past Halifax Bar an older but relatively attractive lady was calling for me. She sort of looks familiar so I stop and she asks if I remember her. Ummmmm She says she is An. Ohhh, this is the lady I mentioned as being a favorite from a year ago! Ok, she is much darker now from what I recall, but yeah. She is a shapely mature woman, now 38 she said, but with other than some baby damage to the stomach, is not too bad for her age, plus she has the wisdom of knowing how to get a guy off. Of course I have to get reacquainted with GFE An, even if she is getting up in years. So in we go and then we go upstairs and she once again rocked my world.

I will save the details but I left exhausted and happy. She is the queen of BBBJs and, while I still have to say I have never come from a BJ in Thailand, she got me sooooo close several times. No, she is not a spring chicken, but for us older dudes she can be that GFE. And for the younger dudes, she will show you some tricks the younger ladies may not know.

After An I returned to the hotel to rest up for the evening and try to finish some lagging reports.

That evening I met up with MP and Phazze on WS. We first went to Panda and there were a few girls that were ok, but this is Sunday, and Sunday and Monday are the slow nights with the most girls absent. We then went to Bacarra for a nice lineup and Phazze eyes a girl he may want to BF. Next, we went to Happy with a subpar lineup, then to Fahrenheit, with a small stage with just 7 girls at a time. We saw no one all that impressive. Then to Palace. It was busy and again had the best girls overall, at least at the 5 or so bars MP hunts in the most. I do not see Tong so she probably took the day off. Then we go back to Bacarra where MP breaks away and I stay with Phazze who eventually decides to pick a girl who I fully agree is one of the hottest ones there. With his girl picked out I leave, not fully sure what to do. The bad taste of lazy, high priced agogo girls is still on my mind and I am not yet ready to try one again. I eat some pad Thia from a food cart vender then go to Red Car. But I am not feeling it and I am tired so I go to the hotel to sleep.

So, this turned into another Pattaya Blues day, but I had a rocking time with Soi 6 woman An at Halifax.

Sorry for a bummer report. It gets better tomorrow.

[Rob Jones]

No such luck mate. The name is sydneysteve. I don't think there is a Sydney in Austria. 5555.

Bugger. There is a Sydney in Canada!

[Chocha Monger]

There is a debate going on the Phil boards about all Asian women are lying sluts vs met a normal girl and lived happily ever after.

Both are correct. Just don't expect to take the bar out of a girl. 😲.

If a monger met a so-called normal girl and married her but he keeps right on fucking hookers, that is not a happily ever after story. The monger may be living happily because the wife puts up with his philandering out of financial need but her tolerance does not mean acceptance of the situation. Most likely, she repays his infidelity with her own dose of deception and double-dealing. At any time, she may decide to bring the monger's fragile world of happiness crashing down on him. Once she no longer feels like putting up with her philandering foreigner, her lover and / or relatives will act to dispose of him. The wife leaves the home on some errand and conveniently forgets to lock the door and gate behind her while the husband is happily sleeping.

[Blanquiceleste]

So funny. The only thing I am upset about is his name. AussieSteve. Maybr from Austria? LOL.

No such luck mate. The name is sydneysteve. I don't think there is a Sydney in Austria. 5555.

[Chocha Monger]

I'm sure there are many good women in Thailand, they just don't work in the sex industry. Also be careful with girls that work in the tourism industry (hotels, tour guides, etc), they picked those jobs for a reason.

If you are looking for a Thai woman as a partner, look away from the bars and find a girl from a good family where brothers and sisters are well employed (nurses, accountants, teachers, engineers, business owners, government employees, etc.).

The warning about getting involved with sex workers is clear. However, even girls uninvolved in the flesh trade expect some benefit from having a relationship with a foreign man. Young Southeast Asian women are not marrying foreign geezers several decades their senior for their good looks and amusing attempts at speaking the local language. Marriage originated as a survival strategy between men and women. Hence, there is always mutual interest.

In the case of mongers who marry, they are trying to monopolize access to the young woman's pussy. In return, she expects to monopolize access to his financial resources, time, etc. Southeast Asian women are very practical when it comes to such arrangements, and they are aware that Western mongers often balk at their expectations. Therefore, many are adept at showing love struck mongers the illusion of disinterested unconditional love. Mongers fall for it more often than not, thinking they finally found their unicorn.

This explains a bit about the origin of marriage and some of the reasons it is falling out of favor. It may help some mongers understand their mistakes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSD2WW8xieY

[FL Hawk]

Day 13 – Saturday.

On Saturday I started off on Soi 6 of course, at Jungle Bar. I had met up with Banana Boy at the McDonalds just north of Soi 6 on Second Road and after walking all the way down the street, we came back and went in there. They had a nice bunch of girls there and the bar area was open with lots of room. A pretty girl, Nok, came in with me and followed us to our table, a circular table with room for 4. I forget the exact timing, but a second cute girl, Aoom, either followed us or soon came over. BB looked at me and said she was mine, and I bought LD's for both. Nok had poor English and BB ended up doing some translation. Actually, it may have been then that the second girl, Aoom, entered the scene, to assist with the language. I got on Aoom's bad side when she asked me how old I thought she was and I said 27. She was 24! Haha. Nok was 22. She had a cute face, though damaged with two check piercings, and she had a nice figure and legs. She did have braces, but I noted she also had a pretty firm stomach. Monkey Paw and Phazze93 (a young friend from ISG who is in town to monger) then joined us. I decided to BF my girl but the others were going to hang out. The BF here is 350.

Upstairs, the experience was so so, with some good and some bad. I think she was new to this, having only been in Pattaya for a few months. As such, I think she felt some foreplay with kissing and touching was part of the deal (something the platinum pussies on WS don't seem to care about). So, the session started off slow with some foreplay at least. She had a good handful worth of breast, though at 22 they were already sagging, but at least not stretchy, so they were nice to feel. I did not want her to give me a BJ with all that metal in her mouth, though she never made an attempt to start one. Eventually, I instigated the next step by getting on top between her legs. Now, I very rarely give oral to a hoe. But I checked her pussy and all appeared clean so I did, and that go her rev'the up a bit. I could see the juices in her pussy build up and I was hard as a rock. With a condom rolled on I slowly entered her. She was fairly tight and warm and she seemed to like it. After a bit of missionary we switched to doggy and stayed in that position for a good 10 minutes. She seemed to love it as I plunged deep then shallow, hard and fast, then slow and gentle. After a long while I finally stopped and then we rolled on our sides and cuddled for a good long while. She was a little chilly and pulled her towel over her legs while I kept the rest of her warm. I was about to think she fell asleep, and I didn't want to keep my guys downstairs waiting (not that I knew they were waiting), so I started to stir, which caused her to check her watch and realize it was time to end. She didn't shower (yikes for the next guy) but I hopped in to rinse off and wash the Johnson and rinse out the mouth.

Overall, she was a nice girl but a little shy, hence my so so rating. The kissing was nice, as was the cuddling, and she took my doggie pounding well. She may not want to do oral, but that might be due to the braces, but be nice to her if you choose to see her. I do think she is new to this and by treating her well you will keep her treating us all well.

When I came down, the guys were there eating pizza from Mama's, a place near the end of Soi 6. On Saturday, they have a buy one pizza, get a second pizza free. It wasn't like a Pizza Hut pizza, but it was good and I was hungry and found it delicious. Nok joined us at the table for a LD but refused any pizza. There was a funny moment when off to the side of the room, one of the hot girls walked by. I choked on my pizza watching her, and she cracked a smile and actually brought over a pack of tissues. I would love to BF her!

That evening I meet with BB, MP, and Phazze at Windmill. I did not see anyone invading any girl's privates this time, so it appeared like any normal agogo. The hot spinner lady was there and she came over to sit between me and MP. This girl is petite and hot and gives off sexuality. I am not sure if I could handle her one on one or not! Her fee is 3000 baht ST apparently! Seems expensive, but that is $100 back home, and cheap. But per MP, she might be worth it even here.

Next we go to Palace. You may remember that yesterday I tried to get Tong, the girl I had bar fined who was a star fish, to go with me again but first to agree to at least kiss and touch me. She did not so I refused to BF her. I, with MP and Phazze, then discussed my approach and gave me some, um, constructive feedback and then encouraged me to try again, but with some extra game. I was willing, and upon returning to the club and not seeing her, MP had inquired about her and learned she had been bar fined and may or may not be back. OK, so that was yesterday. Today, soon after we sat down in Palace Tong enters the club, walks by and she taps me on the knee and smiles as she walks past. Later, she come out and sits next to me, saying the mamasan told her I was there last night looking for her. We talked about stuff, like we should have done the first night, and then I offer a LD. I do tell her I was disappointed with the last experience but that I liked her, that I would like to BF her many times and pay what she wants but I need her to kiss and touch and all of that like she was my real GF. She seems to understand and says ok. I said good and that I am ready to BF her right then. I do and the other guys are happy for me.

But I got hustled again. In bed, the two kisses were reluctant, like I was dirty. I had to remind her about the touching. As is, it was just the same old tugging on my Johnson and pinching my nipples. I had a hardon going but I lost it out knowing that I had been hustled again. And if this girl detests me so much why bother? I am at the point I don't even want to bang her. She seems confused when I suddenly stop touching her and rollover on my back. I tell her that if she can't even touch me or let me kiss her then she can leave. She is shocked. I say that I wanted her to be like a GF, then she says she can do all of that but since I am not horny she can't! I say how can I be horny if you won't even tough me? She gently says I need to take erection medication. Sigh. She had me hard a few minutes ago. She acts like she simply doesn't understand and asks if I am going to boom boom her. I say no, not if you can't make me horny. She again says I can't get horny and I need medicine! Argh. This is not getting us anywhere. So I just start asking her about things in general. I mean, I totally switch from sex related stuff and just try to talk as a friend and to open up a bit and gain some sympathy. I am being real, but it doesn't gain any sympathy. She says if I want to talk she will give me her Line, and she did! Haha. Then she said ST was up and she needed to go (it wasn't up, but whatever), asking what I was going to do next. I said probably go back the WS, but for her to go ahead. I was done with her. Fooled me twice, shame on me.

I went back to WS and faced MP and Phazze. Got no sympathy from them! Haha. We split up and I went back to Panda to see if the girl I liked from before was there, but what was her number?? 288 according to MP, but the club was packed and they told me to come back later. I ate some ice cream and watched the smoking magician try to attract a crowd. Eventually he got a couple to stop and that drew in a crowed. I guess the one magician has a son who does it now too. Both will probably die of lung cancer with all the smoking they do.

I didn't keep any more notes for the rest of the night but I think I went to Red Car then home. Oh, I found a vender for some delicious Pad Thai. I didn't use to like it, now I was craving it.

So for the day, in the midst of my Pattaya Blues, I only did one girl today, Nok of Jungle Bar.

To address the anticipated comments, yes I blew it again. I wanted to try however as she was hot and I liked her otherwise. The small odds of getting close to what I wanted with this hot chick was worth the risk, especially when she agreed (IMHO at least) to do them. I could cling to her words that "I can give you want you want if." and go for her again, but I have been played twice now and I doubt that she would have any intention to give me what I want on the third try. She knows I don't live here and if she can play me one more time, she will win again. So yes I lost a ton of money again, but oh well. But for you tourists who want to come to one of these clubs, you need to realize you can be easily played, and that you should try to negotiate everything up front, even if she will touch you. And that is actually crazy.

[Kamsutra69]

You call it Pattaya Blues. I called it the law of diminishing marginal utility. You found that lazy.

It happens. Too much of good thing is difficult to handle too. Here I am sitting at my work desk far away from Pattaya thinking of all the young available pussies there. But while in Pattaya by 4th day (for me) I find myself at Central Festival having lunch by myself at Teppanyaki Miyazaki and checking out movies to watch that afternoon. To be honest I enjoy that too.

Sheesh, I am leaving town in 6 days and I am bombing out! Well, of course I had my choice of hundreds of women, but I was tired.

And this is part of the Pattaya Blues I nearly always experience. When you arrive in Pattaya (or at least when I arrive in Pattaya), you are happy and excited and dying to get out there and bang women, or at least find a woman to bang if you are in to quality before quantity. You have a blast but at the 2/3rd point you get kind of tired, maybe a bit disillusioned as your dreams of a GFE with a super beautiful woman just aren't coming true and the mass of humanity you face and the circumstances of the woman and everyone involved in the industry gets you down. Well, maybe this doesn't happen to you, but it seems to happen to me. It will pass given the support system in place this time with MP, BB and the other friends who are in town.

But I go home alone and with only one lay for the day, Mickey at Bandit bar for a so so experience.

[Mr Enternational]

There is a debate going on the Phil boards about all Asian women are lying sluts vs met a normal girl and lived happily ever after.

Why is there even a debate? I would never talk about how much someone that I give money to likes me. As always, if you want to know how someone really feels about you, then show up without money. When hoes say they miss me I always ask do you miss me or do you miss my money? I never have to ask a regular chick that because I don't give them money, so there is no question.

Once again I will tell my story about my buddy in Pattaya that wanted to test his girl out. He acted like he was really sick for a while. His girl waited on him hand and foot, even wiping his ass for him. After that he acted like he was out of money. His girl went and got a job and took care of them both. He knew he had a good one. They are still together. He is I think 71 and she is early 30's.

[Rob Jones]

Haha. Again, no reason to be concerned about me. I have already put off several of these women who have expressed their love for me. Fine women all, and I don't discriminate due simply to their bar girl life, but if I give my heart to someone, she may well be the old fashioned Thai girl I will be seeing in 3 days. Virgin until after she met me, there is no doubt in my mind she is ready to commit her life and sole to me. She is part of the reason for my Pattaya Blues that I will be posting about, if I haven't already. If I marry a Thai girl, it will be her.

Hawk.

It will be cheaper to visit Thailand 2 to 3 times a year then to commit. Join the bar girl library LOL.

[Rob Jones]

And his mates watched him do it!

Can't be Aussies. Mine would smack me in the head and tell me to wake up to myself. Literally.

His mates must be from somewhere else or he is a nob LOL.

[FL Hawk]

I have 2 friends who once talked like this. They both married their favored bar girls. The first guy didn't get the legal marriage paperwork, which is good because a couple months later he learned that she was already married and her legal husband was coming after my friend. The second guy got his woman a fiance visa and brought her back to USA for a legal wedding. That's when her true personality started to show. The marriage lasted only a few weeks and he took her back to Thailand and arranged the divorce without her presence.

Beware of these women. Even the bar girls have charms unknown to western women.

Haha. Again, no reason to be concerned about me. I have already put off several of these women who have expressed their love for me. Fine women all, and I don't discriminate due simply to their bar girl life, but if I give my heart to someone, she may well be the old fashioned Thai girl I will be seeing in 3 days. Virgin until after she met me, there is no doubt in my mind she is ready to commit her life and sole to me. She is part of the reason for my Pattaya Blues that I will be posting about, if I haven't already. If I marry a Thai girl, it will be her.

[Goferring]

So funny. The only thing I am upset about is his name. AussieSteve. Maybr from Austria? LOL.

And his mates watched him do it!

Can't be Aussies. Mine would smack me in the head and tell me to wake up to myself. Literally.

[Goferring]

Sound advice. I have been married to an Indo girl for 16 years and same advice in most Asian countries. My opinion on marriage now is why buy the book when you can go to a library?

There is a debate going on the Phil boards about all Asian women are lying sluts vs met a normal girl and lived happily ever after.

Both are correct. Just don't expect to take the bar out of a girl. 😲.

[Rob Jones]

I'm sure there are many good women in Thailand, they just don't work in the sex industry. Also be careful with girls that work in the tourism industry (hotels, tour guides, etc), they picked those jobs for a reason.

If you are looking for a Thai woman as a partner, look away from the bars and find a girl from a good family where brothers and sisters are well employed (nurses, accountants, teachers, engineers, business owners, government employees, etc.).

Sound advice. I have been married to an Indo girl for 16 years and same advice in most Asian countries. My opinion on marriage now is why buy the book when you can go to a library?

[HorseTrader]

I think the other thing to be wary of is that anyone can put on a good side and be accommodating for 1 to 4 weeks, because in reality it is the tourist who experience these problems. I think whether a bar girl or not you run the risk of choosing a girl with a bad disposition. The worse thing I have done in Pattaya is repeat with a Gogo girl. She was nice and I did enjoy her company but after 3 sessions in 4 days all of a sudden the line messages started and I was the worse in the world when I told her I wouldn't be seeing her for the 4th night. Was it anger from rejecting her and she had feelings or was it because cash, food, drinks and sleeping in a comfortable bed gone?

In Aussie I grew with the 3 F philosophy, Find 'them, Fuck 'them and Forget 'them. Best to follow that mantra in Thailand.

Rob.

I'm sure there are many good women in Thailand, they just don't work in the sex industry. Also be careful with girls that work in the tourism industry (hotels, tour guides, etc), they picked those jobs for a reason.

If you are looking for a Thai woman as a partner, look away from the bars and find a girl from a good family where brothers and sisters are well employed (nurses, accountants, teachers, engineers, business owners, government employees, etc.).