FKK Palace - Frankfurt

[PayForIt]

200/ HR. I do not mind 150 euro mild upsell, but I mind 200 euro rip off, it is double the house price, if such thing exist or even ever really existed in palace LOL.

I don't really get all of this, and in particular 150 being a "mild upsell". The standard price is 50/30. We all know that girls do not want to honour that any longer. I can completely understand why not. It encourages guys (I'll confess I've been guilty of this) to bang a lot of girls for not a lot of cash. Sure there are girls in this club and others who will still give DFK / BBBJ and F&S for 50/30. They are unlikely to be top performers or lookers. They are girls who need to make the house fee. Or are genuinely just very generous. In this day and age I tend to think that paying a girl 50 euros for 30 minutes of unbridled banging away, DFK / BBBJ is asking a lot. I agree with one contributor. Just be honest on your website and on the door. Tell mongers the prices have changed. It's no longer 50/30. OR. Say it is that for a basic service. Which we all will understand to be (and they should say to be legally compliant) CBJ and sex.

But 150 is not a mild upsell. Most of the girls will automatically revert to a better than basic service, including DFK and BBBJ if you book them for one hour for standard 100 - not an upsell. Then CIM has always been 50 more. So one hour including BBBJ and DFK and CIM at 150 is no upsell. Not mild. Just not upsell at all.

I appreciate many girls want to push for 100/30 for BBBJ and DFK. I have a simple way around this which I deployed very happily twice in Oase last night. Lanthano will report far better than I on our mutual exploits. I say "we go to the room for one hour. I expect more than basic service. If I finish in 15 minutes I still pay 100. If I finish in 45 its 100. If I finish in 59 minutes and 59 seconds its 100" - I explain but will not elaborate as its obvious from the above. I am yet to have a single girl refuse this. It means you get all of the services, for max one hour, for 100. No upsell. Standard price. Only difference is that whereas in days gone by you could stipulate 50/30 now you don't get much for that. So to take it to 100 and buy the extra hour and guaranteed full service works. Most girls are confident they will get you over the line inside 30 minutes. It needs management. One of the girls was clever enough last night to ask me how many rooms I'the had that day. She was assessing the likelihood of getting an early finish!

[Member #4636]

Too bad you don't realize that 150/ h is already an upsell.

I have a different approach to ladies BB69.

150/ hour which includes BBBJ, DATY, CIM is not that bad in FKK market prices at least from what I have read about other clubs.

But it all has to do with the girl you chose, I have met some that I wouldn't go with them even if they paid me, I have also met some others that I wouldn't mind to give more to live an experience with them. It is all about value for money at the end of the day, of course I have my limits and don't want to be treated as a fool or sucker. But that is something only I can realise at the end and no one else.

[Mr Ho]

150/ HR including CIM = standard price.

150/ HR not including CIM = Suckers Price / Upsell Royale.

200/ HR. What you going to do price? Upsell apre new law LOL.

Well, then I choose to go for 50 euro session for 30 min fucking her from back hardcore, cum and pay 50 euro, which is good price to get rid of stress you got from such girl.

In any negotiation, both parties have to benefit, it is too bad some FKK girls do not understand that. I do not mind 150 euro mild upsell, but I mind 200 euro rip off, it is double the house price, if such thing exist or even ever really existed in palace LOL.

[Ortos]

Too bad you don't realize that 150/ h is already an upsell.

150/ HR including CIM = standard price.

150/ HR not including CIM = Suckers’ Price / Upsell Royale.

[ExpatLover]

Too bad you don't realize that 150/ h is already an upsell.

You are right but I stopp to write about that topic most of the mongers don t understand that it is 50 euro for 30 minutes and extra for me is only CIM and anal but if they are ready to pay more let them do.

[BigBuddy69]

Only few girls provide that for 100 / hour. If you are lucky enough they throw in CIM at the end as well.

But I think most of them would ask 150 for same service, higher than that is upsell.

Too bad you don't realize that 150/ h is already an upsell.

[Member #4636]

Most would not agree for E 100 for CIM I guess. But I managed this in Sharks with a girl.

CIM is always an extra, so no they will not agree. Best is to start saying what you want from the beginning and you may negotiate a better price. Not all girls provide the same service for a fixed price, and of course not all of them provide quality service which is more important.

[FunExplorer]

Only few girls provide that for 100 / hour. If you are lucky enough they throw in CIM at the end as well.

But I think most of them would ask 150 for same service, higher than that is upsell.

Most would not agree for E 100 for CIM I guess. But I managed this in Sharks with a girl.

[FunExplorer]

Which is fair enough if service is really provided as you say, which include DFK, BBBJ and hey do not forget DATY LOL.

Yes had forgotten. Well that was always included.

[Member #4636]

Which is fair enough if service is really provided as you say, which include DFK, BBBJ and hey do not forget DATY LOL.

Only few girls provide that for 100 / hour. If you are lucky enough they throw in CIM at the end as well.

But I think most of them would ask 150 for same service, higher than that is upsell.

[Mr Ho]

That girls now ask E 100.

Which is fair enough if service is really provided as you say, which include DFK, BBBJ and hey do not forget DATY LOL.

[FunExplorer]

Thanks for the FR, Lathano, but it just reinforces that we are all different. I will gladly pay 100 a half for BBBJ and kissing at a nice club with a great LU and I am surely not alone (and no I am not Asian). And just the pricing consistency alone is a huge plus. I only went to Palace five years ago and was underimpressed but after the remodel and review I will most certainly go again!

It's great that at some clubs you are negotiating lower rates, but IMO, the new rate is justified and it is not the girls fault. It used to be 50 included BBBJ, but now many are asking for an illegal act for the same price. Pussy costs what it does in Pussy Prison USA because it is illegal. Making BBBJ illegal upped the price. Not the fault of the girls IMO (tho the extra for DFK trend is alarming).

But in the end, what is too much for one guy is just fine for another, just as you like the RLD and some do not. There is no right answer (I know you are not saying there is) just different tastes and value curves.

Thanks for your continuing amazing contributions to the forum!

I agree with you. I had some excellent sessions last month with varied ethnicity. The girls were nice, well cultured and understanding. Of course, I also initially resented paying E 100 here as well as in Sharks, but soon realised that is going to be be the norm. As you point out, it would not be unreasonable if girls demand E 100, provided they offer BBBJ and DFK. I did get these from all girls I went with. Some girls were not time watchers so much so they were with me for one hour.

That girls now ask E 100.

[Steve 9696]

Thanks for the FR, Lathano, but it just reinforces that we are all different. I will gladly pay 100€ a half for BBBJ and kissing at a nice club with a great LU and I am surely not alone (and no I am not Asian). And just the pricing consistency alone is a huge plus. I only went to Palace five years ago and was underimpressed — but after the remodel and review I will most certainly go again!

It's great that at some clubs you are negotiating lower rates, but IMO, the new rate is justified and it is not the girls fault. It used to be 50€ included BBBJ, but now many are asking for an illegal act for the same price. Pussy costs what it does in Pussy Prison USA because it is illegal. Making BBBJ illegal upped the price. Not the fault of the girls IMO (tho the extra for DFK trend is alarming).

But in the end, what is too much for one guy is just fine for another, just as you like the RLD and some do not. There is no right answer (I know you are not saying there is) — just different tastes and value curves.

Thanks for your continuing amazing contributions to the forum!

[Member #4636]

Thank you for the thoughtful comments on my report. I will however clarify that here, this was ABSOLUTELY not my point. (Maybe I should have moved the "Number of asian customers" further away from the riff-raff comment which was not connected. Quite the opposite, the Asian customers are well-behaved, but it does as in the other clubs imply the greater tourist-focus rather than on locals, though not necessarily.

But yes, I think that the Chinese / Japanese customers that are just flying in for a weekend business trip are more likely to be generous and overpay, and that is probably a main characteristic of this club.

On the other hand anyway, this was my view, my German companion really enjoyed the club, despite not taking a room. This club is a level above a number of others with a very different vibe. I can imagine for other people it may make a 6/10 or higher if one has never been in an FKK before and has come from out of town.

I believe the eloquent girl mentioned below's name was Elina, for whatever it adds.

Pretty much close to reality. Some magic things can happen into this club a newbie much be prepared and careful. It is a fuck luck place, some days are great some others are boring to hell. The food is always nice never complain. The kino is great but I am not the guy who will watch porn in a FKK and start jerking LOL LOL.

All girls upsell but there are 1-2 that provide great service for 100/ hour. I miss the jacuzzi because it gave a great view to watch the girls coming toward you while inside LOL.

I don't like much the new look I prefer the previous one. The rooms are also very nice I usually go to a room that fits 10 couples I have no idea why they take me there, I never ask for an orgy LOL.

[Member #4585]

Thank you for the thoughtful comments on my report. I will however clarify that here, this was ABSOLUTELY not my point. (Maybe I should have moved the "Number of asian customers" further away from the riff-raff comment which was not connected. Quite the opposite, the Asian customers are well-behaved, but it does as in the other clubs imply the greater tourist-focus rather than on locals, though not necessarily.

But yes, I think that the Chinese / Japanese customers that are just flying in for a weekend business trip are more likely to be generous and overpay, and that is probably a main characteristic of this club.

On the other hand anyway, this was my view, my German companion really enjoyed the club, despite not taking a room. This club is a level above a number of others with a very different vibe. I can imagine for other people it may make a 6/10 or higher if one has never been in an FKK before and has come from out of town.

I believe the eloquent girl mentioned below's name was Elina, for whatever it adds.

Palace does have a good foreign number. I see your point. The entry price hopefully deters the tire kickers but many times I do not see this.

Your report does imply that the average Palace dame is a higher level, showing good manners and high intellect in holding a conversation, in English, which a tourist from out of town would appreciate. This are all positives in a normative sense. I think your grading is harsh given the many positives you write.

Also good to know that business is conducted at weekends to accommodate the fly in customers from China and Japan for weekend business trips. In my times in Frankfurt, there is nary a thing open on a Sunday except a few petrol stations, Mc Donalds and FKK clubs. I wish I had their contacts doing business on Sundays and Saturdays since when I do business it has to be Monday to Friday.