North China - Beijing

[Mgp23]

Prices seem to have gone up, no more 300 BBBJ+FS. Quoted at 200 for FS, 300 for CBJ+FS, 400 for BBBJ only, 500 for BBBJ+FS. Rooms and beds have not improved to match new higher price, still shit holes. But still cheap, simple option for a quick lay.

200 FS and 300 CBJ, doesn't make much sense to me.

Anyway, how was the service? Some previous reports were saying one of the BBS had a service pretty worthy the price.

[Midwestern]

I call this as a scam and not just rip-off for many reasons. First, they lied to me, I asked them very specifically about the exact service and price. There was no confusion before I went there. Secondly, after I left the place I asked to that wechat about what is this. Why she lied to me? What I paid 1500 for? But she / he did not reply anything to wechat after the incident happened. So this was a real scam.

I give the wechat ID and the location of the place in the following.


Location: Subway line 7, Jiulongshan station, exit A.

I hope this will help others not to be scammed in future. Mark the place in your Google map, so you can remember the place and stay safe.

Thanks for the report. What is the wechat ID? And what is your regular place? BTW, 1500 kuai for a valuable lesson learned and for the intel is not bad. If you want to get lucky, you sometimes have to take some risks. I know an agency where they tell you to go to such and such apartment and such and such room to meet the girl. At first, I was nervous, but eventually I decided to take the risk, and it paid off. That said, I have also been scammed for over 10,000 RMB on two different occasions. But again, thanks for the report. BTW, you have been mongering for 3 years in Beijing, so why did it take you so long to post a report? It'd be great if you can also share your good experiences too.

[PeterBlue]

I call it a scam, not just a regular rip off. Being in Beijing for three years, I have explored many places, some from this forum and some by myself. So I already know about rip off places who charge hefty prices for things like memberships. Few of them are also in my wechat, they regularly post pictures of girls. Anyway, let me come straight to the point. So I got a new wechat contact recently, I don't exactly remember how, may be from nearby people or from tantan. (S) he added me instantly, and from the moments I understood that it is a fancy establishment with fancy girls. So I assumed it was another rip-off place and therefore was not interested. But she sending me messages regularly in wechat, asking me to visit, saying that it is a nice place, etc etc. All in Chinese. So finally one day I asked her / him about the price and services, they quoted me a rate of 1000 for two hours, 1500 for three and 2000 for four. That sounded TGTBT to me, especially for such kind of a place. Now, I don't speak Chinese, but I know the exact Chinese texts for different terms for different services. So I asked specifically, what services are included in those prices. They said many things, like massage, relax and "making love". To make things absolute clear, I kept on asking them in detail in many different ways, asked them specifically whether the price includes FS, in proper Chinese text, or I do need to pay anything extra for that. They told me specifically that the price includes FS and you don't pay anything extra, everything is included in the price. At that point, I thought lets make a visit. But I prepared my mind that in the worst case I will at least get a massage and HJ in that price, so let's see. So I booked for 1500 for 3 hours. I reached the address and informed her in wechat, a male guard picked me from the gate and took me to the elevator, he pushed the switch of 5th floor from outside and send me up alone. I reached 5th floor and just exiting from the door of the elevator there was a huge place with very fancy reception and lounge. It looked like the whole 5th floor is for them. A girl with sexy dress greeted me and took me to the reception, and there were a few girls in the reception. I did not see any other clients around. Then they took me to a room with bed and shower, and a girl from the reception came to talk to me. She started telling me different things by using translation of the phone, like, they have many establishments in Beijing so I can go to a different one next time if this one is far for me, etc. They then asked me how much I want to pay, I said that I was in told wechat that 1500 rmb for three hours. I also showed them the wechat message that I received from them. They said OK. They showed me three girls and I chose one. The receptionist asked me to pay, I paid 1500, then she asked me to take a shower and left. After I showered, the girl whom I chose came in a black dress and asked me to lay down on the bed facing down. She started massaging my shoulders. After maximum 10 minutes of massage, she started talking to me using translation about different things like what I do, age, and then she asked my salary. I did not answered that, but realized that the things are not going to be good here. Then she started saying that this is boring, if I want to play interesting game. I said yes, that's what I was told in wechat. Then she left the room and came back with the receptionist, the receptionist started telling me things in Chinese bla bla. The point was, that I need to pay something like additional 3000 for anything extra. I showed them the wechat, that I was told I don't need to pay anything extra. But they kept saying me bla bla, that I have to pay more. Then I asked, if I don't pay anything extra then what I get today. They said 'massage'. I said OK, then I only take that. The receptionist left, the girl started massaging my legs. I asked her, won't she remove her cloths? She said no, that costs extra. I said OK. But I was completely off by then. She massaged my legs for another 5-10 minutes and again she left and came back with the receptionist. They again started talking to me with the translation, asking me to pay more. I said I won't pay anything more today, just give me service whatever is included in 1500. This conversation went on for 10-15 minutes or so, then they finally said me that you don't get anything more today, you have to leave. WTF! 1500 rmb for 20 minutes veggie massage, not even a HJ? I did not wanted to fall into any kind of trouble, so I left. I was very much disturbed by this incident (obviously). Then after exiting the building, I contacted my regular place, went there and spend 2 hours. Then I went home.

I call this as a scam and not just rip-off for many reasons. First, they lied to me, I asked them very specifically about the exact service and price. There was no confusion before I went there. Secondly, after I left the place I asked to that wechat about what is this. Why she lied to me? What I paid 1500 for? But she / he did not reply anything to wechat after the incident happened. So this was a real scam.

I give the wechat ID and the location of the place in the following.


Location: Subway line 7, Jiulongshan station, exit A.

I hope this will help others not to be scammed in future. Mark the place in your Google map, so you can remember the place and stay safe.

[RolandOrzabal]

Exit A. As you walk out, there's an apartment complex with ground / second floor shops almost straight ahead. The 4-5 BBS used to be on the right side of this complex. Had the pink lights and everything. Walk left a bit after exiting station to find the narrow walkway into the shop / parking lot area, then walk right a bit. Nothing but actual shops / restaurants last time I checked it out though.

Visited this area again tonight around 8:30 PM and the LSQ BBS's are back open! Counted 4 of them, each with 2 WGs. Looks Ranged from 4-6. Picked the best of the lot.

Prices seem to have gone up, no more 300 BBBJ+FS. Quoted at 200 for FS, 300 for CBJ+FS, 400 for BBBJ only, 500 for BBBJ+FS. Rooms and beds have not improved to match new higher price, still shit holes. But still cheap, simple option for a quick lay.

[Live469]

I went to Maggie's both nights and found it to be not much different than it was 10 years ago (except for the prices). Each night there were 15-20 Mongolian girls and about an equal number of guys. There was a DJ on Sunday and a good Filipino band on Monday. Any ladies who were not already in discussions with a guy were very friendly. On Sunday I picked a blonde, she had light colored eyes and looked very European, elegant and petite, wanted 3000 but eventually settled for 2200. (I know that we are supposed to get them down to 1500, but this lady was having none of that and she was the only one I wanted in the bar that night, so I gave in.) She knew one of the taxi drivers, so we hoped in his cab and I paid the going rate of 100 RMB to go back to my hotel, the Hilton Wangfujing (5-10 minutes away). When we got to the hotel they wouldn't let her up to my room because she had no ID. Bummer. We started to leave and she whispered to me that we could fuck in the cab. I said let's go! Sure enough, the cabbie started driving around and off came her clothes, revealing a very nice body, natural firm breasts, gorgeous for what appeared to be about 45 years old with no baby damage whatsoever. Cabbie would stop every so often and park, watching us through his mirror. Somehow we got into 69 and were having a great time, cabbie was smiling and turned around to watch us, the gal had me completely DT, it felt awesome, and her pussy was clean, smelled and tasted great. Neither one of us had a condom, so after her O she tried to finish me by hand, but with the cabbie staring at me I couldn't keep Junior engaged in the mission, so we just went back to the hotel, dropped me off and that was it for the night.

On Monday I went back to Maggie's, saw the same gal, she came over and asked me not to tell anyone we has sex in the cab. I haven't given out her name, so I think I'm OK. LOL. I started talking to one lady, 36 and from southern China, she said she is a salesperson who every several months comes to Beijing for a few days or a week and stops in at Maggie's. We shared a couple drinks, then she agreed to go out for 1200 RMB. As she stood up and walked to the restroom, I saw her ass and legs we much fatter than I had realized in the dark, and I needed a change of scenery. Saw a young, elegant Mongolian, 5'5" and 125 lbs, 20 years old, we quickly agreed on 1500 RMB and left. She had a passport and got up to my room easily. A good time was had.

Live 469.

[Calidor]

I deleted all evidence as soon as I left Beijing.

I think you can use the names though, I think I have no mistake there.

Hey bud,

Do you have pictures of these girls by any chance?

[RolandOrzabal]

The 4 or 5 by the LSQ subway? Where exactly are you referring? More specific directions / reference points please, if coming by subway?

Meanwhile, the complex, both ground-level and second floor, seems more active than as described by you and the desolate scene of a couple weeks ago, staffed during late afternoon with reasonable, responsive 3's to 6's, though of course YMMV. Others not on duty appeared to be having a meal in a couple places before a presumed evening shift, so no telling what goes on to what degree later in the evening. Construction and rehab continues in the complex units as well, but unclear if it's for legit office space or other activities.

Exit A. As you walk out, there's an apartment complex with ground / second floor shops almost straight ahead. The 4-5 BBS used to be on the right side of this complex. Had the pink lights and everything. Walk left a bit after exiting station to find the narrow walkway into the shop / parking lot area, then walk right a bit. Nothing but actual shops / restaurants last time I checked it out though.

[ThomKatt]

Hey guys,

Spent a week in Beijing, tried to prepare myself with this excellent forum, I'm glad I did!

My hotel was in Sanlitun area, so I started there, at Swing.

It was pretty nice, some WG, but usually not the pretty ones, saw some chines, some from Africa and of course Mongolia, all arrive late at about 23-00 so don't bother to get there early. Had some nice time with the girls but didn't take any home nor negotiated about price. The place itself is foreigner friendly, drinks not pricey and the band is actually good.

Now. Went to Maggies, that another beast. The place is packed with Mongolian working girls all the time. Most of them will make eye contact and some will be more direct. The pretty ones will usually sit still and wait for you. (like real life hehe).

Even though you know it's all fake, you can't help but getting excited by the game (at least I did).

I spent there for an hour and noticed a really pretty girl, small and petite with blue contact lenses, soon enough she noticed me too and the game began. She started dancing and flirting from a far..

Hey bud,

Do you have pictures of these girls by any chance?

[Kerfuffle]

Looks like the LSQ BBS I've written about in the past are gone. I think?

I checked it out Thursday night around 10 PM. The 4 or 5 BBS right by the subway were not open, 4 of them completely dead.

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Went to the complex a ten minute walk south to see if the BBS there were closed too, but it did have some signs of life. Counted 4 BBS there. One had 3 WG, all old and ugly. Two had one WG, but not worth even 100 RMB. One had a hot, young WG but had an odd experience: girl was sitting in a chair in the tiniest room imaginable in front of a big window. She was on her phone so I tapped the window and she looked up and just had zero expression. I asked "zuo bao jian?" and she didn't reply. I tried gesticulating like "so what's up?" for like 30 seconds. And she may have given me a microsecond of a smirk but nothing else. I kinda just backed away confused. Not sure what the deal with that was.

So yeah looks like for the time being, LSQ BBS's are dead or just not worth going to. I'll check it out again maybe in a couple months, because it's died and come back before, but who knows.

The 4 or 5 by the LSQ subway? Where exactly are you referring? More specific directions / reference points please, if coming by subway?

Meanwhile, the complex, both ground-level and second floor, seems more active than as described by you and the desolate scene of a couple weeks ago, staffed during late afternoon with reasonable, responsive 3's to 6's, though of course ymmv. Others not on duty appeared to be having a meal in a couple places before a presumed evening shift, so no telling what goes on to what degree later in the evening. Construction and rehab continues in the complex units as well, but unclear if it's for legit office space or other activities.

[Calidor]

Hey guys,

Spent a week in Beijing, tried to prepare myself with this excellent forum, I'm glad I did!

My hotel was in Sanlitun area, so I started there, at Swing.

It was pretty nice, some WG, but usually not the pretty ones, saw some chines, some from Africa and of course Mongolia, all arrive late at about 23-00 so don't bother to get there early. Had some nice time with the girls but didn't take any home nor negotiated about price. The place itself is foreigner friendly, drinks not pricey and the band is actually good.

Now. Went to Maggies, that another beast. The place is packed with Mongolian working girls all the time. Most of them will make eye contact and some will be more direct. The pretty ones will usually sit still and wait for you. (like real life hehe).

Even though you know it's all fake, you can't help but getting excited by the game (at least I did).

I spent there for an hour and noticed a really pretty girl, small and petite with blue contact lenses, soon enough she noticed me too and the game began. She started dancing and flirting from a far.

At the end (or just the beginning.) her friend actually dragged her to me and we started talking, her alias. Emily. After that, for like two hours we were all over each other. Drinking, kissing, dancing, singing and making out.

Late at night, guessing at about 2:30 she gave me a "reality check" and told me her price, 2,000.

Couldn't resist and took her to my hotel. She had an amazing ass, but some fat on the belly, turns out is 29 (looks younger), and had given birth 2 years ago.

We had sex twice, it was good. Sorry for the high price, but I know for a fact, by talking to other girls, the lowest you will go at Maggie's is 1,500, at least so I was told.

After that, I tried kitty and angel.

Both were very quick on replying to my massage on Wechat, and communication was smooth. Sent pictured and the girls "more or less" was the one. Both girl were waiting next to the elevator lobby, which in my case was big enough not to arouse any suspicion and they blended well in the crowd.

Kitty. Met with tang tang, barely speaks English, great body, petite and slim. Had a good session. Was shy and want GFE. Price 1,000+100.

Angel. Met with adorable JoJo. Great body, very eager to play, excellent GFE, DATY, DFK. Price 700+100.

And that's it.

Left me with a strong will to go back to China again. But I think that's life.

The Maggie's experience was very intense for me, the "game" through me back 15 years or so. Are there any places like that in Europe? (probably my next business trips.).

I'm glad I could give something in return to this forum.

Happy mongering everybody and play safe.[Deleted by Admin]

[CrazyIndie]

Hello,

Coming for a very brief visit in Beijing. Any good massage parlour in Wanfujiang area with happy ending?

[RolandOrzabal]

Thanks. Could only get out for daytime to do a check of EP2-proffered BBS data and pretty much came up goose eggs; anything he referenced as current in his most recent posts of two years ago did not seem to be happening much now, if at all, and presumably have been shut down -- save for that at the end of the line (5). R-ingTFF but still open to further, up-to-date confirmed suggestions or corrections, particularly for the LSQ-TTY nexus zone, but also elsewhere as had been noted in the EP2 lexicon of two years back, as well as for any other areas or ideas that might currently come to mind from anyone else.

Looks like the LSQ BBS I've written about in the past are gone. I think?

I checked it out Thursday night around 10 PM. The 4 or 5 BBS right by the subway were not open, 4 of them completely dead. The one on the corner that I detailed last time did have a girl who looked like a confused WG standing outside on her phone, who then walked down the street and talked to another WG-looking type and they chatted with a lone lost looking guy. Possible it was a sudden unexpected closure? Or just three civilians randomly lost om this back alley.

Went to the complex a ten minute walk south to see if the BBS there were closed too, but it did have some signs of life. Counted 4 BBS there. One had 3 WG, all old and ugly. Two had one WG, but not worth even 100 RMB. One had a hot, young WG but had an odd experience: girl was sitting in a chair in the tiniest room imaginable in front of a big window. She was on her phone so I tapped the window and she looked up and just had zero expression. I asked "zuo bao jian?" and she didn't reply. I tried gesticulating like "so what's up?" for like 30 seconds. And she may have given me a microsecond of a smirk but nothing else. I kinda just backed away confused. Not sure what the deal with that was.

So yeah looks like for the time being, LSQ BBS's are dead or just not worth going to. I'll check it out again maybe in a couple months, because it's died and come back before, but who knows.

The 3 BBS near DZM are still up as of last week and still the same quality: WGs I wouldn't touch even if you paid me.

Running out of places to find a cheap lay. The MZD 6th floor spa still offers a massage + BBBJ / CIM for like 700 and FS for 1000. Last year I'd say the talent there wasn't worth the price, but that was in comparison to the 300 BBS experience, but now.

Haven't been to Nina's near Central Park in a while, anybody gone in the past year? Has good times there, great massage and BBBJ / FS for 1100.

[Leviton6]

Having spent there three days ago, Maggie's is open and packed.

Damn glad to hear it. Although I usually swing and miss with the Mongolian girls I still had a good time in fact some of the bar tenders started recognizing me from my past trips. One thing about those girls, they can sure drink like fishes and it's not the cheap stuff either (although prices seem OK compared with Hong Kong). I'll be returning soon anyway and I hope it stays busy.

[Calidor]

Maggie's is open according to my intel. Will be in Beijing and Shanghai in early November.

Having spent there three days ago, Maggie's is open and packed.

[Live469]

As I mentioned, have had no issues in the past with lobby meets, or walking in together. However if you want to totally avoid a potentially awkward encounter with lobby staff, use Yin or floor 2, to meet up with a friend you have already made arrangements with. In other words, don't expect to find what you are looking for at Yin, bring your own friend.

Thank you! I appreciate your providing info even though I am new to the site. I will be providing detailed reports from my trip at the end of November.

Live 469.