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[Banana Boi]

How to say "no" to your chosen lady in the bar can be a tricky thing. If you say no too often, she will think you are a cheap charlie. On the other hand, if you say yes to every request, you will be seen as the naive tourist. What I do is quite simple. Picture this: your sitting with your lady in the bar happily drinking, fondling, caressing and then she asks you to buy a drink for her friend or the Moma son. You cringe under your breath thinking not again. Then she asks you to buy another drink for a different Moma Son. When is it all going to end you think. Here's what I do. I comply the first 2 or 3 times. Then when it comes time for me to say no, I say this:

Teerak, (sweetie, darling, honey in English). "I don't want you to think that I like another lady. I am here for you and I want to focus all my attention on you. I would prefer to buy drinks for you only from now on. I'm here to support you and not another lady". After saying this to a girl, I have never had a negative response. After that, I bar fine her, order her another LD and then get the hell out of the bar. That way the LDs stop but in her mind, she has snagged a good customer. Back in the room, I get what I want most of the time and pay a fair price.

For me it's not complicated at all. I have absolutely no problem telling girls no, even my regular girls. I just tell the girl I don't buy drinks for mamasans and her sisters. I tell her be careful who she introduces me to because if I do buy another girl a drink that likely means I like the other girl more than her. She comes to a quick conclusion that introducing me to new girls may mean no drinks for her so that 'buy my sister a drink crap' ends pretty quickly.

Just wanted to say that I use another approach that has worked well for me over the years. I typically tip the girl at the end of the session. So, when I am in the club, thinking about barfining a girl, as the requests for drinks start raining, I tell my girl that whatever additional drinks I pay will have to come from her tip.

Agree. If the girl knows she is even getting a small 100 or 200 baht tip after she sits with you she is less inclined to order another drink. I have tipped girls 500 and 1000 baht in the bar before if I am there most of the night. One gogo girl even starting crying after the tip. Not because of the money but because it showed her I really liked her and no one ever gave her a 1000 baht tip in the bar for no real reason before. Worked out for me in the long run as I got many free dates with her after that. Had to eventually break her heart when I told her I didn't want to be her boyfriend and she saw me liking another girl at the same bar more. The new girl is my current #1 gogo girl and imo no one is even close.

[Syzygies]

Then when it comes time for me to say no, I say this:

Teerak, (sweetie, darling, honey in English). "I don't want you to think that I like another lady. I am here for you and I want to focus all my attention on you. I would prefer to buy drinks for you only from now on. I'm here to support you and not another lady". After saying this to a girl, I have never had a negative response. After that, I bar fine her, order her another LD and then get the hell out of the bar. That way the LDs stop but in her mind, she has snagged a good customer. Back in the room, I get what I want most of the time and pay a fair price.

"Paak Waan Mak-Maak 555" (Such sweet bullshit). I think some of them are smart enough to see through your ploy, but it is immaterial since avoids the hard angry negative. Thais like a bit of sweet bullshit.

Girls who work "well" are trying to get customers to buy drinks for mamasan, their friends without a customer, the waitress, the manager, etc. We can't look after them all, unless we have far too much money.

These days, I just tell the girl, I buy drinks for my favourite person (s) which could be 1 or 2 girls, and if she has a friend (of no interest to me), then she can buy her friend a drink or give away her own drink commission (some do), but I have no reason to do so. I can't support the entire bar, I won't be ringing the bell. These girls know me and know I won't be so stingy when comes to pay for the sex. They get paid very fair even with bonus on occasion of having to work extra hard for my cum.

Girls get rewarded for being very useful to me, not for being a nuisance hanging around. We can't afford to set a precedent by rewarding undesirable behaviour. When would it end?

We can't afford to be too generous before we see the girl doing very well for us. This means if intending to BF, better make sure she wants to go early on, rather than getting bad news after several drinks gone.

So I agree with rewarding girls generously based on what they deliver. If we rip them off, there is little chance of a next time seeing the girl in a good mood. If the girl was crappy, then there clearly won't be a next time anyway. Guys regular in a bar will get a reputation for being stingy or generous or balanced in between. Their is definitely plenty of gossip. Even girls never fucked will have a fair idea. Mamasans will know too. Gossip may even extend to was the guy a good or lousy fuck, although maybe some girls are too shy to get into that. Does he fuck hard or too long, etc. Some girls heard exaggerated stories about me and were a bit scared or worried, later admitting to be surprised I was not like what she was expecting. Much nicer than expected of course.

[Lefeu]

How to say "no" to your chosen lady in the bar can be a tricky thing...

I like your topics and you explain things so well!

Just wanted to say that I use another approach that has worked well for me over the years. I typically tip the girl at the end of the session. So, when I am in the club, thinking about barfining a girl, as the requests for drinks start raining, I tell my girl that whatever additional drinks I pay will have to come from her tip.

[Member #4591]

How to say "no" to your chosen lady in the bar can be a tricky thing. If you say no too often, she will think you are a cheap charlie. On the other hand, if you say yes to every request, you will be seen as the naive tourist. What I do is quite simple. Picture this: your sitting with your lady in the bar happily drinking, fondling, caressing and then she asks you to buy a drink for her friend or the Moma son. You cringe under your breath thinking not again. Then she asks you to buy another drink for a different Moma Son. When is it all going to end you think. Here's what I do. I comply the first 2 or 3 times. Then when it comes time for me to say no, I say this:

Teerak, (sweetie, darling, honey in English). "I don't want you to think that I like another lady. I am here for you and I want to focus all my attention on you. I would prefer to buy drinks for you only from now on. I'm here to support you and not another lady". After saying this to a girl, I have never had a negative response. After that, I bar fine her, order her another LD and then get the hell out of the bar. That way the LDs stop but in her mind, she has snagged a good customer. Back in the room, I get what I want most of the time and pay a fair price.

[Member #4591]

If my memory serves me correctly, MonkeyPow convers most of it in his "game plan" before. I just want to say this, be careful when you are generous with a girl, half of the time she will take advantage of you without giving you much in return.

Number 2, be generous. You can be generous with the ladies without being a push over. Buy lady drinks for her and a select few of her friends. Tip small amounts but do it consistently. This goes a long way. Face is very important in Thai culture. These girls become proud if they bring a good customer into the bar or massage shop. If your actions give the lady good face in front of their peers, they will reward you in the bedroom. Don't be the Keneow (stingy) customer. In the massage shop, give a big tip once and while. You will be talked about amongst the ladies. The next time you go in, your chosen lady will most likely know who you are and go the extra mile to make you happy. I love the girls who when you ask how much, they say up to you. Does anyone know why they say that? It is because you have done all the right things up to that point and they feel comfortable and secure with you to go with the flow. These girls will never ask you how much you will pay and are happy receiving a fair amount the next morning or after your session. Once, during a night of partying at Sharks in Soi Cowboy, I spent 800 Baht on 4 large pizzas for the staff and girls in the bar. Needless to say, I had a complete and 100% genuine GFE from my lady that night. Pure BBFS, CIP, CIM, and multiple pops. No mention of a condom whatsoever. On another occasion I took the girl LT from a Go Go bar to Above Eleven roof top bar. I only spent 1,500 baht on a few cocktails. Back in my room, she commented on how I was such a gentlemen and took care of her very well. Needless to say, she fucked my brains out in the room BB and let me cum in her pussy. I have a really hot 22 year old Vietnamese girl I see often. I posted about her already on ISG in the foreign working girls thread. She has to be one of the hottest Asian girls I have ever been with. More about her later but my generosity and politeness paid off in the end.

I dont know what MPs success rate is at getting girls to do what he wants. He mostly talks about how his game is number 1 and he gets to be with the top rated girls in the bars. But his “Game Plan” as you so call it, in my opinion, will get you the top rated girls but it wont get you what you want in the bedroom on a consistent basis. Show me a punter who can get the top rated girls and get them to do everything that he wants in the bedroom such as BBFS, CIP, CIM and so on and then I will listen to him. I am 80% of my way there but haven't reached that 100% success rate yet but I am having fun trying and getting what I want most of the time.

About you, I do know that you didnt read my post. Without being a pushover is the key word in my post. If you follow this advice, you will be far more sussessful than not. I would say that I have an 80% + success rate on getting what I want by following my methods. Its not full proof but what you are saying is such common sense. Of course if you are too generous and overly stupid , there is a chance you will be taken advantage of. Keep your whits about you and dont be a pushover. Know when to say no but do it politely and show the girl some respect when doing it so she does not lose face in front of her piers and the other staff and ladies.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Getting a beer 5 lady drinks and paying the bar fine for 1250 , not at the larger popular go gos but just maybe possible at one of the smaller bars. Bar fine 500, lady drinks 120 and a beer for 150 adds up to 1250. Also possible cashier made a mistake.

That is possible, but it would be probably be the first time a cashier made a mistake that favors the client.

[Franciscass]

However, I do wish that Bkkdog would confirm the most unbelievable part of your story: that you can get a beer, order five lady drinks, and pay a bar fine and only get charged a total of 1250 baht at that bar.

Getting a beer 5 lady drinks and paying the bar fine for 1250 , not at the larger popular go gos but just maybe possible at one of the smaller bars. Bar fine 500, lady drinks 120 and a beer for 150 adds up to 1250. Also possible cashier made a mistake.

[Banana Boi]

Wondering if any BM's have stopped by the new Camel Toe club venue, which recently just opened in Pattaya. From their website, they open at 1 pm and are geared towards mongers who prefer to do their thing during daylight and early evening hours. They are located a bit away from central Pattaya but it does not seem too far away. I like the fact that they claim to play 60's to 80's music at lower volumes and offer food; not to mention the ladies in a relaxed and less frenzied manner than the scene on Walking Street.

I am coming to Bangkok for the winter so hope to stop down there on my visits to Pattaya if reviews are good.

You're posting this in the wrong thread but Camel Toe is not new or even close to new. I have been many times as it is part of my Pattaya G club route. Don't expect top Pattaya gogo quality girls. Don't even expect top Soi 6 girls. Most girls are older. A couple may be ok in their late 20's. Girls are friendly here. Yes, they play music from before I was born. Drinks are cheap. DFK and sometimes HJ after you buy a girl a lady drink which doesn't happen often for me. There are much better G clubs in Pattaya. You can read some of my posts there I won't repeat here since this is the Bangkok thread.

[Tomasb]

Wondering if any BM's have stopped by the new Camel Toe club venue, which recently just opened in Pattaya. From their website, they open at 1 pm and are geared towards mongers who prefer to do their thing during daylight and early evening hours. They are located a bit away from central Pattaya but it does not seem too far away. I like the fact that they claim to play 60's to 80's music at lower volumes and offer food; not to mention the ladies in a relaxed and less frenzied manner than the scene on Walking Street.

I am coming to Bangkok for the winter so hope to stop down there on my visits to Pattaya if reviews are good.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

I have gone ahead and PM-ed Bkkdog with the details of the bar that I remember. I hope he is able to track this gal down and have an equally amazing time as I did. Probably one of the best sessions of my life.

The only condition was that I asked Bkkdog to not share any of the club details with Jimmy Boy.

Snip. In all honesty, I do feel sorry for Pap. She struck me as such a sweet naive gal and so fun. But I can just see her in 2-3 years, after having been with hundreds of guys, turning into a jaded bar hag. And that makes me feel sad for her. Snip.

Very good. However, you are not depriving me of anything by asking Bkkdog to withhold the info from me as: I am more of an oily guy, and not into the buy me a drink gogo bar scene, so I don't generally bar fine gogo girls; assuming her experience with you hasn't driven her out of the business, her colleagues at the gogo bar will have informed her of the mistakes she made with you, and neither Bkkdog or anyone else will ever get the deal you got; and, as I doubt it will take 2-3 years for her to turn into a "jaded bar hag", she will probably be one by the time I get back to Bangkok.

Of course, since Bkkdog said "Let's be clear on this. I don't have any plan of verifying his story. I just want to fuck Pap LOL. ", we still won't know if you story is true. LOL.

However, I do wish that Bkkdog would confirm the most unbelievable part of your story: that you can get a beer, order five lady drinks, and pay a bar fine and only get charged a total of 1250 baht at that bar.

[Member #4591]

Or she saw that you posted pictures of her on this forum.

I doubt a new girl 2 days in the business that speaks very little English would know where to find our forum. Thanks for coming out though.

[Mogwai]

Coincidentally, she seems to have blocked me in line so me thinks her more experienced friend gave her shit for giving it up so cheap or being so accommodating in the sex department. Who knows what these girls discuss amongst themselves. Another possibility is a Thai boyfriend may have gotten a hold of her phone and seen our messages. She was all lovy dovy with me in line for a few hours after she left and then silent after that and her timeline view blocked. It was good fun though.

Or she saw that you posted pictures of her on this forum.

[WindAngel]

On a more positive note, I again urge folks to read, and actually follow, the great suggestions that BKK Dog posted back on Nov 24.

If my memory serves me correctly, MonkeyPow convers most of it in his "game plan" before. I just want to say this, be careful when you are generous with a girl, half of the time she will take advantage of you without giving you much in return.

[Elmo]

I think his refusal to "give a specific detail about the bar that would allow an experienced BKK monger to identify which exact club it was" says all we need to know about his story. If he wants to be believed, let him PM Bkkdog or Eih Toooms, for example, since they tried to find Pap, with the detail so they can verify her existence and confirm what he posted. Otherwise, his post is no more than a Penthouse Forum tale.

I have gone ahead and PM-ed Bkkdog with the details of the bar that I remember. I hope he is able to track this gal down and have an equally amazing time as I did. Probably one of the best sessions of my life.

The only condition was that I asked Bkkdog to not share any of the club details with Jimmy Boy.

[Syzygies]

I am still meeting full grown American men who are adament about asserting that they "never paid for it and aren't about to start now!" LOL.

Personally I would rather just pay for sex than get into complications of "dating". Okay To have a Gik that does not get paid, if it is clear that she wants the meeting mainly for sex purposes equally well (and has a proper BF else where).

I have GF already and one is more than enough. If I should lose her, don't want a new one. Too much effort to get used to a new girl. I don't mind if girl likes the sex and needs a bit of money help as well, for the semi-hooker types.