FKK Oase - Burgholzhausen

[Sirioja]

My first session with Juicy was in June 2014, about 4 1/2 years ago when she said she was 25 years old. I believe she had just arrived then, as no one had mentioned that name before my post. She did not know what that name implied, saying that the club just the week before told her to use it! See extracts below of reports I posted in June 2014.

Juicy's service was good in my first 2 times with her. Then she got more and more demanding of the time I had to spend with her. Then she started talking a lot on her phone making appointments with other customers in the middle of our sex-making. Then came short-changing of session time. Finally, when I take other girls, she kept track of the length of the sessions and then complained when I spent less time with her than others.

We divorced in 2016, when I went back to her sister Laura (who had returned from Sharks) instead of taking her. Looks like siblings cannot stand being upstaged!

So, have fun with her when things are still great. And do not let her go out of control!

June 2014 reports:

I think since Summer 2013, because Laura and Isabella were at Oase on Summer 2013, then moved to Sharks on Winter 2013/2014, playing sisters. On our discovery, Isabella proposed me a threesome with her "sister", but never again after our first room. On March, Laura returned to Oase, Isabella to Rom then World where she was my number 1 until June when she disappeared, finding her again at Globe on July 2016. Small village for a free bird.

[Skepti10]

No, of course you should not pay if you did not CIM!

If a girl asks if I want to CIM and if (I'm in the mood for it, then I always tell the girl: "it's difficult for me to CIM, but if you can pull it off then I have no problem with it. " Then the girls doesn't need to interrupt the BJ if she sees that you're having a good time and are about to cum, and at the same time there are no financial misunderstanding.

Thanks, lesson learned for next time.

You worry about 60 cents, but you got ripped off E50 for a CIM without it actually being a CIM?

At the time I wasn't sure if it was me being ripped off or not, as compared to the taxi which I thought was for was a rip off.

She is indeed a good provider, with one caveat, you got to pay well and buy an extra. My first room with her in 2017 was 1. 5 hours at club rate in the Sharks garden, no extras. Since then, I've been to a one hour room with her with no extras. After that, while she has been friendly and flirty with me outside the rooms, she will not go with me again unless I agree to CIM or anal. She knows she is small and doesn't want long rooms with extended penetration.

Good to know, unfortunately I won't be back to Frankfurt for a little while.

Thanks for the advice everyone, I've posted day 4 in the sharks thread.

[ExpatLover]

She is indeed a good provider, with one caveat, you got to pay well and buy an extra. My first room with her in 2017 was 1. 5 hours at club rate in the Sharks garden, no extras. Since then, I've been to a one hour room with her with no extras. After that, while she has been friendly and flirty with me outside the rooms, she will not go with me again unless I agree to CIM or anal. She knows she is small and doesn't want long rooms with extended penetration.

Probably she is considering herserself as a queen but she is just a prostitute getting fucked by any guy ready to pay her. Not sure that her strategy can last very long but who knows so many guys around ready to pay without any limitations.

[Takedown]

Maybe she have bad day? Estefania always top service and top optic. Always impress by her skill. She very capable of finish you quick if you not careful, jajajaja! Surprise she did not try upsell you anal. Try longer session with next time so you can fully enjoy. She is among best in all clubs currently.

She is indeed a good provider, with one caveat, you got to pay well and buy an extra. My first room with her in 2017 was 1. 5 hours at club rate in the Sharks garden, no extras. Since then, I've been to a one hour room with her with no extras. After that, while she has been friendly and flirty with me outside the rooms, she will not go with me again unless I agree to CIM or anal. She knows she is small and doesn't want long rooms with extended penetration.

[Horny Harry]

I tried to negotiate for 100 eur /30 min / CIM again but was unsuccessful as she kept saying BBBJ was another 50.

I thought the taxi to Friedrichsdorf was a flat rate of 10 eur but this driver insisted on using the meter. I thought for sure this would be a scam but at the end of the day, the drive only cost 10.60 eur! Unlucky for the driver I had exact change so even if I was ripped off, he only made an extra 60 c haha.

You worry about 60 cents, but you got ripped off E50 for a CIM without it actually being a CIM?

[Horny Harry]

1. If I negotiate CIM for an extra 50 but don't finish "I'm", am I still expected to pay the extra? Or should I explicitly say to the girl "100 if finish CIM but only 50 if no CIM"?

No, of course you should not pay if you did not CIM!

If a girl asks if I want to CIM and if (I'm in the mood for it, then I always tell the girl: "it's difficult for me to CIM, but if you can pull it off then I have no problem with it. " Then the girls doesn't need to interrupt the BJ if she sees that you're having a good time and are about to cum, and at the same time there are no financial misunderstandings.

As I'm putting my clothes back on I check the time, yep only just over 20 minutes.

Service wise pretty mediocre, but decently skilled in BJ and super attractive to me. I wonder if she'll go for anal. Handed over 100 eur and declined her request for a tip. I may be a newbie in FKKs but that doesn't make me a total newbie (this changes later on).

Good move that you declined giving her a tip! The 10 minutes that she left early should be enough of a 'tip.'

[Skepti10]

No CIM no need to pay.

The girl smells, if you are first time there or not.

And if the girl goes to take a shower, then don't need to count the time.

Go to the room, make the bed, then look in her watch or look at yours, but make sure, that the girls sees, that your are looking at the watch. And then the time starts to count.

Today Sharks has discount day, the entrance is only 50 and therefore there is more men.

And more girls also.

It's like a weekend.

I will be at Sharks today too.

PM me if you want join.

Thanks for the info guys.

Bonsai. I can't seem to pm you. Not sure if you'll see this in time, but I'm in shark now too.

[Jolokia]

this tiny cutie popped up and introduced herself as Estefania...

had to stop her ... before I shot 5 minutes into the session! ...

Service wise pretty mediocre, but decently skilled in BJ and super attractive to me. I wonder if she'll go for anal...

Maybe she have bad day? Estefania always top service and top optic. Always impress by her skill. She very capable of finish you quick if you not careful, jajajaja! Surprise she did not try upsell you anal. Try longer session with next time so you can fully enjoy. She is among best in all clubs currently.

[Bonsai]

No CIM no need to pay.

The girl smells, if you are first time there or not.

And if the girl goes to take a shower, then don't need to count the time.

Go to the room, make the bed, then look in her watch or look at yours, but make sure, that the girls sees, that your are looking at the watch. And then the time starts to count.

Today Sharks has discount day, the entrance is only 50€ and therefore there is more men.

And more girls also.

It's like a weekend.

I will be at Sharks today too.

PM me if you want join.

[The Cane]

If I negotiate CIM for an extra 50 but don't finish, am I still expected to pay the extra? Or should I explicitly say to the girl "100 if finish CIM but only 50 if no CIM"?

CIM means CIM, and if you don't CIM, then you don't owe any money for CIM. She ripped you off. You paid for BBBJ / CIM but only got BBBJ. And it doesn't matter whose "fault" it may be. The customer does not pay for services not actually rendered, particularly under the circumstances you noted. I think that the more seasoned girls know and understand this, but sometimes there are "newbie" girls too you're dealing with (and sometimes you're just dealing with a dishonest tute), and you have to make it known that you will only pay for CIM if you do in fact CIM. Sometimes I sense the need to make this known, and I have no qualms doing that whatsoever. And neither should you.

[Skepti10]

Day 1 was spent in Shark. Report made in that thread. Didn't go to a club on my actual second day in Frankfurt so let's move straight to "day 3".

Woke up at the ungodly hour of 3. Xx am and couldn't get back to sleep due to more jet lag issues. Bummed around at the hotel until about 9 am then decided to go out and walk around Frankfurt a bit. Walked from the central train station to the cathedral and through Romerberg. Then walked to the south side of the river and eventually had an early lunch at Zum Gemalten Haus. Had the German style pork chop which looked pretty unappealing but tasted pretty good, washed down with a beer. Then walked back to my hotel room for a nap. I think this is the only time I've ever walked more than 10 k steps before 12 pm.

Anyway, I'm sure none of you actually care about my touristy activities so let's just say I overslept for my nap and only managed to get to Oase at about 6 pm. From Frankfurt hbf it's an easy 25 minute trip to Friedrichsdorf on the S5 train. Nice and cheap 9. 55 eur for a return ticket. After reaching the station jumped in the first taxi and off to Oase we go. 10 eur. Briefly chatted with the nice Pakastani driver and he offered to drive me back to Frankfurt for 30 eur. Is that the going rate I wonder?

As I said, got to the club at around 6 pm, the receptionist asked if it was my first time, I said yes and she gave me the lay of the land including the prices the girls charge. I saw there was a shuttle bus service but when I inquired she said it only starts next month. Bummer. The sign was in German but it seems like you can be dropped off at Messe. If true this seems super convenient. I paid the 70 eur and went in.

The place seems much less busy than Shark on a Sunday, less than 20 guys from what I saw and maybe closer to 40 girls. The bar staff also seemed friendlier than Shark. Within a minute of sitting down near the main bar area this tiny cutie popped up and introduced herself as Estefania. She looked like a sluttier Ariana Grande with her ponytail hairstyle, super slim / petite figure and thick dick sucking lips. By far the most attractive girl in the club. Said she was 20 and Romanian. We quickly reached an agreement of 100 eur for 30 min including CIM. Went into the room right next to the bar (small room, mirrored ceiling) and off we went. Since I didn't go to an FKK the previous day (nor any RLD places) I was more sensitive than normal and had to stop her BBBJ before I shot 5 minutes into the session! After another minute or so I told her to get the condom for some missionary and doggy. Very nice views but we didn't go too long before she jumped off and went back to BBBJ, saying she didn't want too much sex but rather BJ. Not sure if this was because I asked for CIM or if she was saving her pussy for later sessions (I saw she was quite popular). Another 5 minutes or so and she said time was almost up and if I didn't finish we'd have to extend. Pretty sure she was lying so ignored her and soon after completed in mouth. Unfortunately it was only "CIM" for a second then she disengaged. Definitely nothing like the BJ bars in Thailand. As I'm putting my clothes back on I check the time, yep only just over 20 minutes.

Service wise pretty mediocre, but decently skilled in BJ and super attractive to me. I wonder if she'll go for anal. Handed over 100 eur and declined her request for a tip. I may be a newbie in FKKs but that doesn't make me a total newbie (this changes later on).

A quick shower and I head down to the food / whirlpool area. The food is pretty average but it's a great smoke-free environment to check out the girls walking to and from the rest rooms. And unlike the main lounge / kino area they don't keep trying to introduce themselves, although I'm sure if you show a bit of interest & eye contact they'll come join you.

I checked out the relaxation area nearby with the lounge chairs and seats and saw people using their phone. Score! My sim card (non-German) didn't get very good reception but managed to get the wifi from one of the girls afterwards. Played on the phone for a bit, tried the Sauna and killed some time. During the next 2-3 hours I changed between the relaxation, food and main lounge areas. Every time I'm at the main lounge, girls would try her luck with me. Blessing and a curse I suppose. As soon as I reject, another one comes up. I think at one point there was a girl standing near by just waiting for the current girl to leave! I make eye contact with a young blonde looking girl who seemed cute but her figure was hidden by the couches / her towel so I wasn't fully committed. After eventually shoo-ing away some of the less desirable ones I chat with her and find out her name is Anastasia.

Forgot what she said her age was, maybe 20-22? But I remember her saying she was Russian which was a surprise. She had a cute youthful looking face, but not nearly as slim as Estefania and would be called chubby in Asia. Her breath also wasn't the greatest, but since I'm not looking to DFK I thought it'd be ok. I tried to negotiate for 100 eur /30 min / CIM again but was unsuccessful as she kept saying BBBJ was another 50. In retrospect I should have moved on but I settled for 150 eur /60 min / CIM instead. Once we got into the room she said she wanted to go for a shower. I assume this was a time-stalling tactic but since I'd rather a clean girl I gave her the ok. She came back after about 5 minutes and off we went. Her BBBJ was actually ok. If I had taken her for 30 min I'm sure she would've gotten me over the line pretty quickly. But since this was an hour session I decided to wanted to fuck a bit instead as well so got her to get the condom. Cowgirl was not great, she kept making fake moaning sounds and her breath distracted me. We moved to doggie which was nice given her meaty ass but she continued with the fake moans. After we stripped off the condom and she tried to CIM without success. After about 40 or so minutes in the room I could tell there was no way I could finish so ended the session. I thought since I didn't CIM the cost should've only been 100 eur, but she obviously disagreed and given I didn't make this condition clear during negotiation I decided to treat it as a learning experience instead.

Paid the girl and saw it was 11 pm now so left the club to catch the 11.38 back to Frankfurt. I thought the taxi to Friedrichsdorf was a flat rate of 10 eur but this driver insisted on using the meter. I thought for sure this would be a scam but at the end of the day, the drive only cost 10.60 eur! Unlucky for the driver I had exact change so even if I was ripped off, he only made an extra 60 c haha.

Cost.

Transport: 9. 55 e (train) + 20.60 e (taxi) = 30.15 e.

Entrance: 70 e.

Estefania: 100 e.

Anastasia: 150 e.

Total: 350.15 e.

Overall Opinion:

Pros.

- I really like the non-smoking area and relaxation lounge where I could openly use my phone.

- The food area is also very well lit, so you can clearly see the girls as they walk past.

- The rooms are nicely mirrored so you can see the action easier.

Cons.

- Apart from Estefania I would say the girls are of a similar quality to Shark, maybe a bit lower body-wise as there are less big tits and a couple of fatties in their 30's /40's (I saw one older African lady and one fat white lady with bleached blonde curly hair who I can't imagine get very much business).

- The main lounge is a bit dark and smoking is still prevalent in this area.

- Stuck using taxis.

Questions for the veterans:

1. If I negotiate CIM for an extra 50 but don't finish "I'm", am I still expected to pay the extra? Or should I explicitly say to the girl "100 if finish CIM but only 50 if no CIM"?

2. Should the taxi be a flat rate of 10 eur regardless of the time / Did I get scammed out of my 60 c? Next time do I just get out and walk to the next driver? I did feel a bit trapped in the situation given the time and how unwalkable the station was, didn't feel like I had any leverage to negotiate.

3. My go-to rejection line for the girls in this club has been "need more time to rest" but all that does is encourage the girls to try again later on. Should I say "not tonight"? "no thanks"? "you're not my type"?

So that was yesterday. Today is my last full day in Frankfurt and I'm undecided as to where to go. Shark is nice, very walkable from Darmstadt Nord, but the main bar area is super smoky and I think the only place to use your phone is in the lockers. Back to Oase is another option, but may have to lower my requirements a bit, and would be stuck with taxis again. Or I can try a new club?

edit: Note to add - Estefania was trying to offer a "sexy massage", presumably for an extra 50eur but obviously I declined. Anastasia on the other hand was offering me a cigarette, after I told her I didn't smoke. I think she was a bit confused why I didnt smoke, like the concept of someone not smoking was strange to her...

[Lanthano]

My first session with Juicy was in June 2014, about 4 1/2 years ago when she said she was 25 years old. I believe she had just arrived then, as no one had mentioned that name before my post. She did not know what that name implied, saying that the club just the week before told her to use it! See extracts below of reports I posted in June 2014.

Juicy's service was good in my first 2 times with her. Then she got more and more demanding of the time I had to spend with her. Then she started talking a lot on her phone making appointments with other customers in the middle of our sex-making. Then came short-changing of session time. Finally, when I take other girls, she kept track of the length of the sessions and then complained when I spent less time with her than others.

We divorced in 2016, when I went back to her sister Laura (who had returned from Sharks) instead of taking her. Looks like siblings cannot stand being upstaged!

So, have fun with her when things are still great. And do not let her go out of control!

June 2014 reports:

This great post speaks for itself. Amazing and very eye-opening on many levels, especially for a relative newbie like myself.

Thank you.

[TankTank123]

Around 5 pm, room with "Juicy" a petite older 27 why-o (likely older) with brown hair and a body that is skinny and muscular (my type) yes, that was her name) who gave an excellent service, DFK, DATY, 69, (yes first time I've done either of the last two) long, engaged, no time pressure before or after once I had booked her for the room, good conversation before and after. Not surprisingly she has been at the club for a while, 3 years, and has a number of Stammgaeste (she'd been booked when I first arrived). Fantastic and well worth it.

Good choice, she was a very nice girl to meet my last trip.

My first session with Juicy was in June 2014, about 4 1/2 years ago when she said she was 25 years old. I believe she had just arrived then, as no one had mentioned that name before my post. She did not know what that name implied, saying that the club just the week before told her to use it! See extracts below of reports I posted in June 2014.

Juicy's service was good in my first 2 times with her. Then she got more and more demanding of the time I had to spend with her. Then she started talking a lot on her phone making appointments with other customers in the middle of our sex-making. Then came short-changing of session time. Finally, when I take other girls, she kept track of the length of the sessions and then complained when I spent less time with her than others.

We divorced in 2016, when I went back to her sister Laura (who had returned from Sharks) instead of taking her. Looks like siblings cannot stand being upstaged!

So, have fun with her when things are still great. And do not let her go out of control!

June 2014 reports:

Other than sessioning with some of my regulars, I tried out Juicy for the first time. It turned out that she is the sister of Laura who had moved to Sharks under the name Livia. She said that Laura wanted to return to a Oase due to poor business at Sharks, but Mauro will not let her back as it seems that he had a rule that any girl leaving oase for a competing FKK cannot return.

Juicy is not very cute as she is 4 years older than Laura and it shows. Her character is also mature and very pleasant, unlike Laura's. Her body is the same shape and size as Laura's, maybe slightly tighter. Somehow she attracted me just like Laura did last year. Service was standard and satisfactory, without the shut-out posture that Laura adopted last year.

[Kosher Kowboy]

Lanthano. Looking forward to adventuring again with both yourself and Kosher Kowboy in the near future, if not in FKK Oase perhaps elsewhere!

It will be a good time and I know where we won't be going. In fact The Gypsies will be stuck in a time share next trip ( LU gone downhill, not the same anyway) with few if any fully dedicated days as I will be celebrating birthday number 50. At 25 I was spending guilders when broke in A-Dam's/Den Hague's/Utrecht's RLDs. At 75 I will be in a nursing home if alive reading Lanthano's reports still. At 100 maggots will have eaten my bones and ashes. That being said need to make this upcoming trip one of fucking beautiful women like I did in all of 2016. I also know you guys won't be going to Palace / Mainhatten and I will reward bad behavior and price gauging happily this trip on my own time and pay asking price / market, no more, no less (although I know some cheaters in red towels)

Guess that narrows the field down for our repeat meeting.

[Der Auslander]

Nice reports Lanthano and PayForIt. Both your reports provide an excellent perspective on FKK Oase and the possible delights and difficulties the visitor can encounter in this establishment.

Sorry to read about your negative experience in FKK Oase Lanthano. Looking forward to adventuring again with both yourself and Kosher Kowboy in the near future, if not in FKK Oase perhaps elsewhere!