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  1. #28002
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Like here in Pattaya if you ask a chick how long she has been here she will say 2 weeks. Most of the time that means that she had been back home and it has been 2 weeks since she has returned to Pattaya, not 2 weeks that she has been in the game as many mongers take it.
    I do the same thing in Jakarta. When the locals ask me how long I have been in Indonesia, I will tell the amount of time I have been there that current visit. So if I flew in 2 weeks prior, I will say 2 weeks. In reality I have been there a good part of 20 years.

  2. #28001
    Quote Originally Posted by Arcangel  [View Original Post]
    SteelBaton poses a very valid and important question. Where do the fresh women in Colombia start out? In my experience an "attractive 18 year old who decides she needs some extra pocket money" first goes to a small casa. From there, in Medellin she may go to New Life or Energy to increase her turnover. If she is an extrovert or has issues like drugs that prevent her being accepted in a casa, she may start on the street at Veracruz.

    Me, I have had a hard time finding fresh GFE girls in Medellin and Bogota and had more success in second-tier cities Barranquilla and Bucaramanga where everything is somewhat more laid-back and the girls more low-mileage.
    Besides that, all you really know is what you are told. So tell any chick without implants to tell you that she is new to this and you shall be non the wiser. Like here in Pattaya if you ask a chick how long she has been here she will say 2 weeks. Most of the time that means that she had been back home and it has been 2 weeks since she has returned to Pattaya, not 2 weeks that she has been in the game as many mongers take it.

  3. #28000
    Quote Originally Posted by Balboa  [View Original Post]
    Hmmmm, Parque Lleras IMO, would definitely NOT be your best for picking up girls with charm.

    Matter of fact, it wouldn't even be on my list, LOL.
    I wasn't speaking from experience on that point, so I defer to your judgement. Please share your list.

  4. #27999

    Fresh women

    Quote Originally Posted by Combo  [View Original Post]
    Of course they are out there. But it takes time and effort to find them. If you're determined to do so, I'd try some smaller or mid-size towns. Big cities in Colombia are pretty played out.
    SteelBaton poses a very valid and important question. Where do the fresh women in Colombia start out? In my experience an "attractive 18 year old who decides she needs some extra pocket money" first goes to a small casa. From there, in Medellin she may go to New Life or Energy to increase her turnover. If she is an extrovert or has issues like drugs that prevent her being accepted in a casa, she may start on the street at Veracruz.

    Me, I have had a hard time finding fresh GFE girls in Medellin and Bogota and had more success in second-tier cities Barranquilla and Bucaramanga where everything is somewhat more laid-back and the girls more low-mileage.

    I wouldn't recommend "smaller or mid-size towns" because they generally don't have the establishments that we are looking for. Girls don't work in their home towns where they are likely to be found out, they go to the anonymity of the city.

    Quote Originally Posted by Combo  [View Original Post]
    If you have to be in a bigger city, you need to get way away from the nicer areas of town. Hang around in some Estrato 2/3 areas.
    How is that supposed to work? If you just "hang around" you're more likely to attract muggers rather than the pretty girls who sit at home with no money. To pick up girls in public you would need to be fluent in Spanish and have good game. Even so, girls would be wary to be seen with a monger in their own neighbourhood. Has anyone ever made this work?

    Colombians don't tend to befriend people in public and meet new people through their network of friends and family. However, it's generally easy to get into a conversation with someone sharing your long distance bus or plane, for example, not sure how that works on the metro or city bus. A better strategy would be to befriend girls and have them introduce you to their friends.

  5. #27998
    Quote Originally Posted by Arcangel  [View Original Post]

    For "day game", that is picking up girls with charm not money, your best bet it Parque Lleras, but you're more likely to be picked up by overpriced putas hunting for gringos.
    Hmmmm, Parque Lleras IMO, would definitely NOT be your best for picking up girls with charm.

    Matter of fact, it wouldn't even be on my list, LOL.

  6. #27997

    Confused?

    Quote Originally Posted by FunGuy12  [View Original Post]
    I spent the past few days in Parque Lleras. It's nice but I keep reading posts about better prices in other places in Los Angelos, San Diego, etc. An old dude told me to get on the Day game but not sure where. Honestly I would rather do Day game anyways. But the Colombian Uber I call for rides said that New Life is in a bad area for day game and too dangerous for night so he won't take me there. Can anyone give some advice on New Life or any other club outside Parque Lleras in terms to Day Game. Before 7 pm? Also is new Life dangerous in general?
    Man, you are confused and need to spend time reading TFF. "Game" is what you need to make emotional connections with girls so that they will want to fuck you. Instead of game you can use money. You don't need game to go to New Life any more than you need to be Italian to go to a pizzeria.

    New Life is only open daytime. I recommend you go there and to the other centro casas. Nothing bad is likely to happen to you walking around that part of centro during the day, but it likely will greatly expand your outlook on life. Get WorldTraveler69's map on your phone.

    For "day game", that is picking up girls with charm not money, your best bet it Parque Lleras, but you're more likely to be picked up by overpriced putas hunting for gringos.

  7. #27996

    SB in Medellin.

    Quote Originally Posted by BaDonkiDonk  [View Original Post]
    I'll be in Medellin for the Super Bowl on February 3, 2019, and am looking for a sports bar where I can watch and listen to it in English. Any ideas?
    Highly recommend Patrick's Irish Bar in Parque Lleras.

    Address: Carrera 37 a 8 a - 43, Medellin, Colombia.

    Great bar to watch American Football. After a few shots, you'the swear you're in some neighborhood bar in the midwest.

    I was there 3-4 years ago. Traded shots with Patrick the owner while watching the game. Great guy, got a frisbe with the bar logo from him on the way out!

    You might want to call ahead for the Superbowl & see if you need to reserve seats. I vaguely remember.

    Options to pay for all you can eat & maybe drink.

    The girls are friendly & attractive. I don't think they "work". They might make enough $ from gringo tips but who TF knows in Medallin.

    Google "Patrick's bar Medellin". Take a look at Trip Advisor for more info including their #.

    Just read a post here from another monger suggesting Hooter's (also in Parque Lleras).

    Might be a mistake:

    When I went there to watch Monday Night Football. The place was dead. I could've lived with the mediocre looking hooter girls being a bit snooty (I wasn't there for the woozle) but at the end of the 3rd. Quarter I was told they're closing up! Another party of 3-4 guys had just ordered these huge cartoon drinks & weren't allowed to finish them.

    Luckily, right across the street I saw a bar that was totally empty but the game was on. The bartender let me watch the rest of the game while he was cleaning up. Unfortunately it has since closed.

    Hope this helps.

  8. #27995
    Quote Originally Posted by SteelBaton  [View Original Post]
    I disagree. I find these types of girls in many places in Asia (Jakarta, small bars in BKK, HK honey girls, "chicken shops" in rural China, top-tier bars like Kojak in Manila, etc). Most places I frequent I can *eventually* find the bars or locations where women are just beginning to work in this business or are working part-time. I'm just wondering where in Columbia they are likely to be found? Sometimes it's a FL cafe, or streetwalkers, or small clubs, or the most expensive clubs who will pay the most for fresh women. Where does that attractive 18 year old who decides she needs some extra pocket money first go? They all begin somewhere, where is it in Medellin??

    I don't have the patience for the online romancing sites that take days and weeks to cultivate.
    Of course they are out there. But it takes time and effort to find them. If you're determined to do so, I'd try some smaller or mid-size towns. Big cities in Colombia are pretty played out. If you have to be in a bigger city, you need to get way away from the nicer areas of town. Hang around in some Estrato 2/3 areas.

  9. #27994
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Everyone is. And that is what makes them well-travelled, more experienced, and more transactional. There is no secret batch of beautiful, low-mileage, GFE hookers out there.
    I disagree. I find these types of girls in many places in Asia (Jakarta, small bars in BKK, HK honey girls, "chicken shops" in rural China, top-tier bars like Kojak in Manila, etc). Most places I frequent I can *eventually* find the bars or locations where women are just beginning to work in this business or are working part-time. I'm just wondering where in Columbia they are likely to be found? Sometimes it's a FL cafe, or streetwalkers, or small clubs, or the most expensive clubs who will pay the most for fresh women. Where does that attractive 18 year old who decides she needs some extra pocket money first go? They all begin somewhere, where is it in Medellin??

    I don't have the patience for the online romancing sites that take days and weeks to cultivate.

  10. #27993

    Primero Medellin.

    I spent the past few days in Parque Lleras. It's nice but I keep reading posts about better prices in other places in Los Angelos, San Diego, etc. An old dude told me to get on the Day game but not sure where. Honestly I would rather do Day game anyways. But the Colombian Uber I call for rides said that New Life is in a bad area for day game and too dangerous for night so he won't take me there. Can anyone give some advice on New Life or any other club outside Parque Lleras in terms to Day Game. Before 7 pm? Also is new Life dangerous in general?

  11. #27992
    Quote Originally Posted by ShooBree  [View Original Post]
    Maybe it would have paid off using your tactic, maybe not. But why play games with a cheap hooker?

    Fucking a inexpensive hooker, which everyone with a 100 bucks can fuck, for free doesn't make anyone special.

    It would be another thing it was a high-end escort with starting rates at 500 bucks or more.
    You really don't get it.

    The price a girl charges means nothing as to who the girl is, the quality and or level of service, fun, etc.

    Often times the correlation is inverse.

    Good luck.

  12. #27991
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    He went about it all wrong though because he did not meet her on those terms. Last month I was in Peru and met this chick on cupid. She did not want to go out with me at first because she thought I just wanted to fuck her. Finally the day before my last she agreed to go out to lunch. She made it clear that it would just be platonic and not even a kiss. After we ate and she saw how cool I was, she started to get GFE. We were downtown walking holding hands and hugging and kissing. She went home and we were messaging each other. I had 1 day left and like you said I was on limited time, so I said fuck it and just told her flat out that the next day we would fuck. She said no. (I did not offer to pay her as your friend did.) I said what time are you coming. She said I am not. The next afternoon I asked her if she was on her way yet. She said she had to get her kid off to school and she would be on the way. We went to eat lunch and went back to the hotel and fucked. Now she is all in love.

    Your friend should have realized that hookers need love too. And just because she was a hooker did not mean she was out to get money from him. That was not even information that he was supposed to be privy to. She could have really liked him for who he was. He thought he was being smart and thought he was offering her what she really wanted for what he really wanted. But that is where experience and game come in handy. You have to know when it works to romance a chick, when it works to worry the shit out of a chick, when it works to pay a chick. YMMV and there is no one size fits all. He should have continued in the direction he was going and did just like I did; told her he was leaving soon and wanted to make love with her. Then at least he would have been fucking her for free while everyone else was paying, instead of going home with his dick in his hand and not fucking her at all.
    Maybe it would have paid off using your tactic, maybe not. But why play games with a cheap hooker?

    Fucking a inexpensive hooker, which everyone with a 100 bucks can fuck, for free doesn't make anyone special.

    It would be another thing it was a high-end escort with starting rates at 500 bucks or more.

  13. #27990
    Quote Originally Posted by MedellinGringo  [View Original Post]
    My friend had a hard time believing the chick was a prepago. I don't think he wanted to believe it. But when it became obvious that she was. He just wanted to fuck her even if he had to pay for it. He may have tried to just date her and to see what happened if he lived in Medellin. But when guys have limited time (in pussy paradise) they tend to do whatever it takes to get laid as fast as possible.
    He went about it all wrong though because he did not meet her on those terms. Last month I was in Peru and met this chick on cupid. She did not want to go out with me at first because she thought I just wanted to fuck her. Finally the day before my last she agreed to go out to lunch. She made it clear that it would just be platonic and not even a kiss. After we ate and she saw how cool I was, she started to get GFE. We were downtown walking holding hands and hugging and kissing. She went home and we were messaging each other. I had 1 day left and like you said I was on limited time, so I said fuck it and just told her flat out that the next day we would fuck. She said no. (I did not offer to pay her as your friend did.) I said what time are you coming. She said I am not. The next afternoon I asked her if she was on her way yet. She said she had to get her kid off to school and she would be on the way. We went to eat lunch and went back to the hotel and fucked. Now she is all in love.

    Your friend should have realized that hookers need love too. And just because she was a hooker did not mean she was out to get money from him. That was not even information that he was supposed to be privy to. She could have really liked him for who he was. He thought he was being smart and thought he was offering her what she really wanted for what he really wanted. But that is where experience and game come in handy. You have to know when it works to romance a chick, when it works to worry the shit out of a chick, when it works to pay a chick. YMMV and there is no one size fits all. He should have continued in the direction he was going and did just like I did; told her he was leaving soon and wanted to make love with her. Then at least he would have been fucking her for free while everyone else was paying, instead of going home with his dick in his hand and not fucking her at all.
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  14. #27989
    Quote Originally Posted by ClamSlammer  [View Original Post]
    Your friend's behavior is quite astounding. He's gotten to first base with a chica many men would be willing to pay for and is well on his way to unlimited free sex. Then he intentionally screws it all up by offering to pay for each and every future session?
    My friend had a hard time believing the chick was a prepago. I don't think he wanted to believe it. But when it became obvious that she was. He just wanted to fuck her even if he had to pay for it. He may have tried to just date her and to see what happened if he lived in Medellin. But when guys have limited time (in pussy paradise) they tend to do whatever it takes to get laid as fast as possible.

  15. #27988
    Quote Originally Posted by ShooBree  [View Original Post]
    Why fuck her again when it's possible to fuck a new girl for free that isn't a prostitute?

    Never heard of pump & dump?
    Why not fuck her again, which is guaranteed, then try to fuck a new girl too, which isn't guaranteed? Why turn down round two of guaranteed GFE? Yeah I've heard of pump and dump, but you seem ignorant to the fact that the vast majority of mongers here don't meet the qualifications. Mongers, those who must resort to paying for sex, don't have girls begging them for sex on a daily basis. In order to pump and dump, you must possess most of the following characteristics: young, extremely handsome, wealthy, charismatic and in-shape. Most mongers fit only one or none of those criteria. If fucking attractive women for free was so easy for the typical monger, the typical monger would be well on his way to extinction.

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