2004 Bangkok Reports

[Jimmy Red Cab]

Giotto,

Regarding the girls of Soi 33 not going with customers, this is something I find hard to believe. More likely they will not entertain "cheap charlies" but I bet when the Japanese punter offers 5000 baht their morals go out of the window. Money talks, UK, USA, Thailand.

[Plugger]

Giotto, thanks for taking the time to write all that. I noticed that you emphasised that it's mostly for the Thai clientele. I hope there's no animosity towards us farangs there.

[PurpleNGold]

Oh, I forgot to put this in my reports from LOS...

For those of you looking for Viagara, the best place I found was a little pharmacy near Nana. If you start out at Soi Nana and cross the parking lot of the gas station (never sure if that's N E S or W) keep walking and within 2 or 3 doors you'll come upon a little pharmacy that's maybe 10feet wide at the entrance. This place sold me 400mg/1000BT, quite the gem considering every other place I went wanted a minimum of 1800BT. They will give you the little blue dynamos in the original packaging, but will remove them in front of you and cut them for you if you ask.

Also, don't go to far, there's another pharmacy, maybe 2 shops down. It's a big shop, but the owner is a total mother fucker. He wanted to sell me some shit in an unmarked bottle at 400mg/2000BT and even said that there would be an extra 100BT/pill charge to cut them.

[PurpleNGold]

Originally Posted by ChristyUsa
It is a bit expensive by Thai standards - $150- am I crazy? Is there a better deal?

Answer to your first question:

For even asking if $150 (6000BT) for LT in BKK is something you should consider, you definitely want to seek professional mental health services.

Answer to your second question:

Dude, you got an allnighter or at least a 6 hour layover? Take a bus, 100BT, from the airport to Sukhumvit, rent a room somewhere like the Miami, 600BT max, go enjoy some bars, 300BT for beer, then find yourself a freelancer at Nana Disco, take her back to your hotel room and fuck the shit out of her for a few hours (1500BT MAX).

Total: 100 + 600 + 300 + 1500 = 2500BT ~ $62.5 (This is splurging!)

Is that a better deal? Well, considering that you could bring back 2 or 3 girls back to your room for the 6 hour interval and still spend less than the $150 for a single girl, plus pick them out yourself (as opposed to accepting whatever washed-out Ya-ya dope fiend they send to your door) I'd say there is unquestionably a better deal...

[PurpleNGold]

Originally Posted by Tough Love
Bar fine was 1,600 bahts which is quite steep compared to the gogos. But like your posts mentioned, girls there at soi 33 are more " semi-pro"s than the gogos and thus less " hardened" which is to my liking. But unlike your experience with these girls, both of them agreed to go LT with me for 2,500 on the same night I met them( gave them 500 bahts more for tips since they were so sweet ).
SNIP...
So I don't know if I was lucky or it was my charm ( haha ) that I did not experience difficulty getting these girls back to my hotel on the first night

Let's see, you paid 3600BT per girl, and you wonder why it was 'so easy' to get them back to your room?

It would still have been 'so easy' and you could have saved at least 1000BT/each. Now, you say, what's 1000BT? That's only 25USD, right? Well, you save 1000B/girl and you suddenly find that you have 2000BT in your pocket, and, guess what, that's the price of another girl LT.

Oh, and mamasan getting you the condoms? Shit, considering that she probably pocketed an extra 500BT/girl on the BF, sure she was happy to be the gopher for a sucker.

Dude, sorry to rip you, but this is a prime example of overpaying that just shouldn't happen. I've read posts about how one person overpaying doesn't affect the local economy, well, it's obviously not just one person, and as a group, you are fucking up a good thing all to hell (and the 'fucking' does not refer to getting your rocks off in an LBFM).

[RCA Knight]

About someone says not easy to spend 200USD a day in Bangkok. That really depends what kind of place you hang out and pick up a lady. In lots of higher end executive clubs, lots of cutie in these places will ask you 4000-6000 for a shot. Some stunner will ask you around 200USD (8000).

But these that ask me 6000-8000 before are all really dead gorgeous. I think in London, NY, Tokyo, Paris these babes at this level will cost you 2 times more or up. These 200USD Thai babes appear on TV and magazine before. Sometimes mamasan will show you. And sometimes in these higher establishments ,they have foto albums. Some babes you need to make a reservation a few days before.

But in my experience, do not reserve lady from foto, they all look better in the fotos. So you should pick from real things whoever in store in real person. I did reserve a few times but never really fully satisfied. They were still real pretty but somehow the pics are always look better. So when I want a very nice babe now I always pick from the store, no more from the foto album.

2 days ago I just splurged another 200USD for a perfect body beauty from Thonglor gent's club. Lots of these cutie girls do not sell too offten, and its true lots of them rarely do, but only wait for the big fish once a while. This is the market for guys who like rarely-pro, or semi-semi-pro. So if you are in this category 200 USD may not be enough for a day's total expense .

[ChristyUSA]

Hi Guys,

I am just transiting through on this occasion and will not have time to get to the city. I have found Venus E-Girls and they can come to the airportmeet me and come tothe airport hotel with me for the night. They also offer a transit package which I may use on my 6 hour layover on the return.

It is a bit expensive by Thai standards - $150- am I crazy? Is there a better deal?

Chris

[Meaty]

good write up giotto, i understand your descriptions of the girls and mostly agree, but remember, there is a short time hotel (peep inn) in the soi for a reason, even the soi 33 girls need money, and i think it is a very small minority that genuinely won't go, the rest are playing the hollier than though crap to, as you said, find a long term sucker... i mean sponsor.
hostesses, gogo girls, freelancers, whatever they are, they all ^%$& for money, some just disguise it or are more subtle about it.
best behaviour in the soi and you will do well. loud, drunk, too heavy on the petting and you will not be liked.

deep file, good to see you back, you're far more active elsewhere these days, your experiences and knowledge of the scene far exceed any other members on the forum, some of your detailed stuff i see elsewhere is amazing. can you expand on a story i heard about some guys getting into some trouble in a bar in soi 33 about 6 weeks ago ? apparently there was some bill padding, some hirate customers and then a traditional thai kicking when they left, first time i've heard it go that way before, wondered if you got the full story ?

[CanonSter]

Hi Guys,

I will be coming over to Bangkok next week. At of last time when I was in Hatyai, I went for a modelling show, the models was so beautiful and sexy. Then I asked Person in Charge there whether are they up for sale and they are for 5000B for a nite. It was the highest quality I ever tried.

After I went through some photos in the Photo Gallery, the quality is far from what I wanted. Check all the comments, and apparently, Poseidon offers the best quality girls. Went through the site and saw some 'models' photo and again it is not on par with what I got last time. So can anyone share some advise of where I can find the highest quality girls in town.

Thank you all.

[Jimmy Red Cab]

Giotto,

Thanks for the Info on Soi 33, I will be in Bangkok from Monday 31st May, must try The Office bar.

[Devil Doc]

I leave tomorrow for LOS. I have read all the reports for the last three months. There is alot of good infomation that I have gotten from the forum. I have a game play now. BKK is a new place for my mongering. If the reports are like the one for RPI and Mexico, I will be having an excellent time. I will post my experinces.

[Tough Love]

Deep File, Gioto,

I am also very fond of soi33 and had a great time there a few weeks ago when I was in BKK. I looked in to almost every bar there ( except the Office, damn !) but felt comfortable only in Renior and Dali to stay. Dali had some cute girls one night and had no one attractive on other nights. Found two stunners at in Renoir on two seperate occasions. Bar fine was 1,600 bahts which is quite steep compared to the gogos. But like your posts mentioned, girls there at soi 33 are more " semi-pro"s than the gogos and thus less " hardened" which is to my liking. But unlike your experience with these girls, both of them agreed to go LT with me for 2,500 on the same night I met them( gave them 500 bahts more for tips since they were so sweet ). And the mamasan even went out and got the condom for me when I mentioned I did not have any if I took the girls back. ( what service ! I love this country ) So I don't know if I was lucky or it was my charm ( haha ) that I did not experience difficulty getting these girls back to my hotel on the first night. Definitely will go back on my next trip there and will try the Office for sure. O, BTW, the owner of Renoir is actually a Japanese Thai with some American tie who speaks very good English. According to him, he practically started the soi 33 scene some 18-20 years ago.

[Migrant One]

Giotto,

Great report, and organization. Especially for one like me getting ready for their first trip.

Your talk of the hostess bars reminds me of the Korean ones I've been to in S. California. The first time I asked the lady, who spoke good english, what were the rules. She said there is no guarantee of sex, but dancing, touchy feely (no bras on the girls) were the menu. As I got more familiar the rules here in Calif. are the same as you describe there. They want the repeat customer since they get a pay based upon the customer consumption (and tips). I found the girls would go with you (for free) if you became a regular customer, and/ or they liked you.

I'm american, but speak enough Korean to get them to giggle and relax, plus I wasn't the normal Korean male customer (which is 99.9% of their customers) so I actually had pretty good luck with getting phone numbers and seeing them outside without paying the very high drink rates.

Anyway enough with memory lane, soon I'll see the promised land over there.

BTW I've been RTTF and collecting places and bars, but if the bretheren can help me with two areas, blow job bars and places to eat (food, not DATY) these are two of my favorite pastimes and any suggestions would be appreciated (Also I enjoy 'when in Rome, do as..... but would rather not visit a Katoey BJ bar)

Thanks Guys

Migrant

[Joe Zop]

Great stuff, Giotto, thanks!

[Deep File]

Excellent writeup, Giotto... as a 20 year veteran of the 33 scene, I would concur with most of your remarks. Here is my current cribsheet... personal ratings, of course. As you point out, these places evolve and change... not always for the better. This seems to be particularly true over the past 1-2 years; several new joints have opened in an already crowded market and customers change their loyalties (witness The Office which offers better food and staff that are well managed).

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Best

Renoir**
Monet
Blu BBQ**
Office**
Mojos (food & music... not bar girls)

OK to Good:

Napoleon*
Richmond
Bacchus
Wall Street
Van Gogh
Madame Claude
Big Shots*
Degas
Luciano**
Christie's*
Green Parrot*


Slow/Poor (but you can still hit a night or girl):

Dali*
Goya
Lookie Lookie
Santana
Papa (recently opened)
The Brick (recently opened)
You & Me (recently opened)
Oliver Reed's (recently opened)
Gaughin

For particular tastes:

Cave (fetishist bar)

(*best for pool)
(**food cooked on site)