Medellin Reports

[Lefeu]

There is nothing dangerous about Parque Lleras.

I do think you should have booked the nights at the Charlee after your stay at the Mansion instead of before...

Haha, I agree! The stay at the Charlee should definitely be after the mansion, not before. World of difference between the two.

[ClamSlammer]

Greetings men,

I'm a gringo and have never stayed in Parque Lleras, but I'm hearing that a gringo, alone here is not adviseable in Parque Lleras. I've been to Tijuana, DR, Costa Rica and definitely keep my wits to me, but is Parque Lleras at night that bad?

Parque Lleras is perfectly safe, even at night. Lots of upper class Colombians with a few gringos mixed in, mingling around all the little bars and restaurants. Decent police presence too. The chances of you being a victim of violence is extremely small. It is a very safe area, don't be concerned.

[JjBee62]

Greetings men,

I'll be going to Medellin in January and already have 5 nights reserved in M1. I've been to medellin before, however, wanted to stay in the Hotel Charlee in Parque Lleras for a few days before the Mansion. I'm a gringo and have never stayed in Parque Lleras, but I'm hearing that a gringo, alone here is not adviseable in Parque Lleras. I've been to Tijuana, DR, Costa Rica and definitely keep my wits to me, but is Parque Lleras at night that bad?

Where in the name of all that is holy did you hear that? Of all the crazy things I've heard about Medellin, that's got to top the list. Whoever is telling you that knows absolutely nothing about Parque Lleras.

For a gringo alone in Medellin, with no knowledge of the city and limited Spanish, Parque Lleras is the safest place for you to be. The only bad thing in Parque Lleras is trying to get a taxi out 30 minutes after the bars close.

[Iguana Six]

There is nothing dangerous about Parque Lleras.

I do think you should have booked the nights at the Charlee after your stay at the Mansion instead of before. Unless of course you already have chicas lined up.

He's right, why'know.

[MedellinGringo]

Greetings men,

I'll be going to Medellin in January and already have 5 nights reserved in M1. I've been to medellin before, however, wanted to stay in the Hotel Charlee in Parque Lleras for a few days before the Mansion. I'm a gringo and have never stayed in Parque Lleras, but I'm hearing that a gringo, alone here is not adviseable in Parque Lleras. I've been to Tijuana, DR, Costa Rica and definitely keep my wits to me, but is Parque Lleras at night that bad?

There is nothing dangerous about Parque Lleras.

I do think you should have booked the nights at the Charlee after your stay at the Mansion instead of before. Unless of course you already have chicas lined up.

[The Tall Man]

Yep. They're all looking for that magical vending machine that pops out 18 year old virgins, who nevertheless already know everything they need to make sex exciting and satisfying.

A great idea! Bring that one in front of the Sharks! The boys at The Shark Tank will buy in millions, jajaja.

The Tall Man.

[BlueChange]

I had 1 day left and like you said I was on limited time, so I said fuck it and just told her flat out that the next day we would fuck. She said no. (I did not offer to pay her as your friend did.) I said what time are you coming. She said I am not. The next afternoon I asked her if she was on her way yet. She said she had to get her kid off to school and she would be on the way. We went to eat lunch and went back to the hotel and fucked. Now she is all in love..

THIs is the move my friend. Hahh I love that. I've totally done this one I dunno how many times. Last time was in Bogota. Fucking her was soo good, it was like opps no condom even. Damn her pussy was great but she was WAY too demanding after that. It was like the movie Don Jon where she wants an unrealistic guy in a rom com movie. Anyway. I LOVE that game when you just tell them what's happening.

POWER MOVE!!

[BlueVein09]

Greetings men,

I'll be going to Medellin in January and already have 5 nights reserved in M1. I've been to medellin before, however, wanted to stay in the Hotel Charlee in Parque Lleras for a few days before the Mansion. I'm a gringo and have never stayed in Parque Lleras, but I'm hearing that a gringo, alone here is not adviseable in Parque Lleras. I've been to Tijuana, DR, Costa Rica and definitely keep my wits to me, but is Parque Lleras at night that bad?

[World Travel 69]

Switch your sim card to Movistar.

I did not have any trouble with my maps.

Thanks for the input. At WorldTraveler69 Thank you for the map also. I got Avantel for 20 mil pesos for a month. Unlimited Whatsapp and 1 GB data. I am working my "game" today, ladies are easy to talk to. My Spanish needs more work. LOL I have been Pataya, Jakarta, Dubai, Australia, Singapore. Lived in Japan. I'm always a gentleman. Unfortunately with Avantel I can't access the map on my phone. Need a VPN.

[MedellinGringo]

Where does that attractive 18 year old who decides she needs some extra pocket money first go? They all begin somewhere, where is it in Medellin??

I don't have the patience for the online romancing sites that take days and weeks to cultivate.

They don't go anywhere. By the time they decide to go somewhere to work they have already been selling their ass for a while.

The best place to meet them is on facebook if you have the patience. Any chick that will spend a decent amount of time chatting with you online is game. Then just ask them to met you out somewhere. If they bring up money they are not fresh. If they show up in public to meet a guy that is twice or more her age she is game for almost anything. You just need to lay it on her after a couple drinks and a joint.

If I had to pick one place that I have picked up the most 18 year olds in person. It would be Palmahia for after hours. But it takes patience and stamina to stay up partying until 4 or 5 in the morning to get them back to your place.

It is one thing to get a broke chick to drink your liquor and dance with you but it is quite another thing to get her to leave her partying friends to go home with you for money. So you have to wait her friends out and sometimes you just end up with a phone number or facebook contact.

Another thing is you really can't go out alone or you will just look weird or stupid.

The first time I ever went to Palmahia was with mansion chicks after the La Cueva closed. I was there with three other chicks and we split a bottle and I ended up going home with a chick I met there. The truth is trying to pick up drunk 18 year olds is probably the last thing you should be doing in Medellin on a Friday or Saturday night. Only do it if all your best made plans fall through. Much better odds with Facebook IMHO when searching for the girls that are open to being propositioned for the first time.

[JjBee62]

Most guys want the ease of point and click for a girl with the freshness of Downy, all while not being able to speak the language.

Yep. They're all looking for that magical vending machine that pops out 18 year old virgins, who nevertheless already know everything they need to make sex exciting and satisfying.

[Mr Enternational]

The other places will be Centro but many of those look isgprohibitedwords and you need some Spanish.

Nah they don't look that way, they ARE that way. After noticing those are not adult clothes that those chicks had on I decided to ask. And I was taunted for being scared. I had no problem admitting to them that of course I was scared and not willing to take on the problems associated with that.

The problem isn't where the fresh girls in Medellin start out, it's when, and when is about 4 years sooner than you should be looking for them.

Ain't nobody turning 18 then just magically heading out to be a brand new fresh hooker as they would be heading out to take the driver's test, heading out to vote, or heading out to drink.

I found an older woman who occasionally turns tricks when money is really tight and floated out that I was looking for someone to clean my apartment. That led me to meeting her daughter, who also takes on occasional customers. That brought invites to visit their home, in an estrato 2 area and introductions to the daughter's friends. The friends aren't really in the business, but I'm a nice guy, I treat people well.

Yeah well you are talking about a process that is part game and part luck. Because you most certainly did not start off with it in your mind that you would end up fucking the friends of some older chick's daughter. You just happened to fall into that. Most guys want the ease of point and click for a girl with the freshness of Downy, all while not being able to speak the language.

[WindAngel]

I disagree. I find these types of girls in many places in Asia (Jakarta, small bars in BKK, HK honey girls, "chicken shops" in rural China, top-tier bars like Kojak in Manila, etc). Most places I frequent I can *eventually* find the bars or locations where women are just beginning to work in this business or are working part-time. I'm just wondering where in Columbia they are likely to be found? Sometimes it's a FL cafe, or streetwalkers, or small clubs, or the most expensive clubs who will pay the most for fresh women. Where does that attractive 18 year old who decides she needs some extra pocket money first go? They all begin somewhere, where is it in Medellin??

You can try La Isla. The girl I talked to tell me she can come and go freely, not hired by the bar. I don't look for particular age but this is the only place that I have met girls in your range. The other places will be Centro but many of those look [CodeWord902] and you need some Spanish. The other bar will be Gusto. Do a search to see reports.

[FunGuy12]

Man, you are confused and need to spend time reading TFF. "Game" is what you need to make emotional connections with girls so that they will want to fuck you. Instead of game you can use money. You don't need game to go to New Life any more than you need to be Italian to go to a pizzeria.

New Life is only open daytime. I recommend you go there and to the other centro casas. Nothing bad is likely to happen to you walking around that part of centro during the day, but it likely will greatly expand your outlook on life. Get WorldTraveler69's map on your phone.

For "day game", that is picking up girls with charm not money, your best bet it Parque Lleras, but you're more likely to be picked up by overpriced putas hunting for gringos.

Thanks for the input. At WorldTraveler69 Thank you for the map also. I got Avantel for 20 mil pesos for a month. Unlimited Whatsapp and 1 GB data. I am working my "game" today, ladies are easy to talk to. My Spanish needs more work. LOL I have been Pataya, Jakarta, Dubai, Australia, Singapore. Lived in Japan. I'm always a gentleman. Unfortunately with Avantel I can't access the map on my phone. Need a VPN.

1st night: I went to Parque Lleras. Saw bad chick on the street. Saying 3 cientos. I said 200 mil pesos. She agreed. Got back to the room (which charged me 150 for guest. Just like Pattaya. Should done my homework). She said 50 extra for sex in the room. So I give her 50 and she won't even let me get half in. I just told her to finish CBJ.

2nd night: parque lleras: Idk the name of the club sorry. It was on the first floor, but had a club directly above it with a view across the park. The guy promoting it said good mujeres, so I said cuantos cuesta. He said 150 so I went. It was like 1 am and a few cute ladies (looks are 7's). The lady said 200, I said 150. She agreed and she took me to a hotel across the street for 80 mil pesos. Some dude from Miami was working there talking to me, small talk. I thought he wanted to fight me. LOL but he was cool. The room was nice. Her body was damn. Natural. Perfecto. Everything. So for her and the hotel 230 mil pesos.

3rd night was at La Isla. Gorgeous. I walked in paid 10 mil pesos for the cover fee. FYI. I took a UBER (Did not know UBER is illegal here. UBER driver parked me behind the building to not be seen. Also always ride in the front with Uber here) . I sat on the 1 of many couches. Ratio of women to men. 20:1. So I got approached by a few ladies. She said tres cientos. I said 250 mil pesos for hour. Now the 250 includes the hotel, sex and CBJ. She had a condom but I always have my own. Nice room, she washed me before and after. Was the best I had thus far.

What I will do next time: Pay the cover fee, Do not sit down, continue to walk until you find the woman you want. Talk to her and negotiate. Always negotiate with manners. Then go. I dropped like 50 pesos on other ladies that kept coming to me asking for a tip. So do not sit down and find your lady fast and take her to the back. You may end up giving some tips. I think those are the rules and I did not want drama. So again Find the lady you want Fast. FYI a lot of the ladies have implants (breasts and / or butts). From what I noticed about half did. I prefer natural.

4th day / night: taking some of everyone's advice and do the day game.

[JjBee62]

SteelBaton poses a very valid and important question. Where do the fresh women in Colombia start out? In my experience an "attractive 18 year old who decides she needs some extra pocket money" first goes to a small casa. From there, in Medellin she may go to New Life or Energy to increase her turnover. If she is an extrovert or has issues like drugs that prevent her being accepted in a casa, she may start on the street at Veracruz.

The problem isn't where the fresh girls in Medellin start out, it's when, and when is about 4 years sooner than you should be looking for them. By the time they make it to most of the casas they've been at it for at least 2 or 3 years. The only exception I know of is a casa which doesn't require a cedula from the girls.

Any girl on Veracruz has been around it her whole life. Chances are, that woman standing next to her is her mother. If drugs have brought her to the street, she's not fresh. The dealers all just got tired of giving her drugs for sex.

Not that there aren't attractive and fun girls to be found in the casas or on the streets, but you're just fooling yourself if you think they're new to the game.

Me, I have had a hard time finding fresh GFE girls in Medellin and Bogota and had more success in second-tier cities Barranquilla and Bucaramanga where everything is somewhat more laid-back and the girls more low-mileage.

I wouldn't recommend "smaller or mid-size towns" because they generally don't have the establishments that we are looking for. Girls don't work in their home towns where they are likely to be found out, they go to the anonymity of the city.

How it works is you go to an area, stop in a restaurant and have lunch. Chat with the owner, cook and waitress, the only person working there. Leave a 4 k tip for your 6 k lunch. Go down the street to a small bar or a little store with tables outside. Have 2 beers. Chat with whoever is around. Stop in a few stores, buy a few little things, talk to whoever is working. Give a few compliments to the women. Repeat as necessary. When you see a girl who interests you, greet her and ask a few questions about the area. It doesn't matter what you ask. If there's something interesting in the area, ask if she'll guide you there. Or ask for directions to the closest metro station, or which bus to take to get you back to your hotel. Compliment her. Be nice and friendly and try to get her WhatsApp.

It requires some effort. You need to study the area some and you need to talk to a lot of people. Once people see you as a nice guy, doors will open.

I've seen someone make it work. I made a variation of it work. I found an older woman who occasionally turns tricks when money is really tight and floated out that I was looking for someone to clean my apartment. That led me to meeting her daughter, who also takes on occasional customers. That brought invites to visit their home, in an estrato 2 area and introductions to the daughter's friends. The friends aren't really in the business, but I'm a nice guy, I treat people well.

Colombians don't tend to befriend people in public and meet new people through their network of friends and family. However, it's generally easy to get into a conversation with someone sharing your long distance bus or plane, for example, not sure how that works on the metro or city bus. A better strategy would be to befriend girls and have them introduce you to their friends.

Colombians are happy to befriend people, especially paisas. I had no problem making friends and I'm more of an introvert. They're curious, they like to talk, they like to hear about different places. And a lot of them have a friend or a cousin who doesn't have a novio.