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  1. #8646

    Tijuana budget questions.

    So here's the plan guys. I'm going to Tijuana sometime in early February for a three day stay, first things first I want to get chicas like as many as I can, I'm thinking about two BGs a day and about 3 or 4 SGs aday for a total of around 12 to fifteen on this three day run I know its a hard task but I believe I'm up for the challenge haha. But on top of that I also want to experience the city this includes going out to eat a fancy meal once or twice a day eating at cafes going to at least a few different bars and also want to try going to the casino and also head to the cultural center downtown as well as at least one sobreruedas maybe playas as well, I know its a lot of things to do but I really want to experience the city in my short stay there. The plan is to head to Tijuana park at pepes parking courtesy of hk go to hk get VIP card head next door to cascades book one night cash pay in pesos and get receipt do the same thing the next morning. Was planning on arriving Monday to take advantage of 80 percent discount on Mondays Tuesday at cascades bringing the total for lodging at about 20 bucks per night the first two nights plus about 60 for third day on top of the 800 or so pesos for the VIP card should be around 150 ish for lodging but I want some opinions on how much everything else would cost and how much money I should bring I forgot to mention I also want to allow about 100 bucks a day towards spending money in the club just for grabbing as many asses and tits as I can also would probably buy every bar girl I take upstairs about one or two lady drinks before going arriba just to get them loosened up. Would love it if you guys could give me you rough estimates on what the damage might be on all this fun. Thanks in advance for any and all advice.

    Also have a few questions since I've only been a few times. Where do the Bgs head after their shifts are over to unwind is there a specific club or bar they frequent?

    Is it true that I shouldn't tip the bartenders because they don't get to keep their tipped money?

    Last time I was there I was fortunate enough to catch and participate in the foam show was wondering what time these are scheduled for?

    Also was wondering where the best place to exchange my money was I've gotten conflicting reports some say on the us side before crossing over others say atms in mexico give the best rates so not sure? Any other fun things I should check out to experience the city to the fullest? Again thanks to the more experienced mongers for there input and suggestions.

  2. #8645

    HK Do's and don't's for Rooks and Vets 2018

    Seems like there are many different conversations and confusion about the inner workings of Hong Kong. First and most importantly HK is a Clip Joint Fridays and Saturday's. Those who have been around Tijuana and culture and I do mean Tijuana culture because it is a different and separate animal from Mexican culture already understand this about HK on the weekends. Tijuana is bastardization of American and Mexican culture do the influence and proximity to the United States. That being said there is a reliance and a natural tendency to take advantage of Gringos because Mexico is a class based system so those who have money power or influence in the country readily take advantage of the people and citizenry, the Mexican Government is a prime example of that. So being that you are a foreigner in a strange land they will try to exploit that to their advantage because that is what is being done to them on a daily basis. The majority of people who work in the Mexican service industry are seen as the low rung of society and are exploited by the Mexican elite, including the girls who work in the clubs and stand on the corners in the Zona. All the girls have is their looks to get by on so they use what they got to get what they want. Sure they may be sweet and cute but they truly do not like or respect you when you break it all down and I'm sure most of the mongers feel the same way about them. So yes the waiters, the cab drivers, the bathroom attendant will pray upon your ass at every turn just because you are American and seen as an easy mark. When dealing in the Zona show no fear if somebody is being aggressive girl waiter, cop, or whoever stand your ground and don't be a pushover. Showing weakness in this culture is a death sentence. I guarantee the more masculine you act the better your experience will be with girls and the staff. HK may have a lot going for itself because it has next to zero competition as far as it overall offerings are concerned, but it is lacking in customer service. Being shady and not pouring what you ordered is a big no no in terms of customer service. One way to combat this is by tasting what you ordered and politely but firmly tell them you want what you ordered or will not pay. Ask for the bottle to be brought to the table and poured in front of you, if he refuses get another waiter who will comply. If your goal is to drink top self all night like a boss then tipping a waiter $20.00 upfront to be your personal attendant will show them you are not messing around and are to be taken serious when it comes to your beverages / women. I guarantee they will not F-with you from that point on. The idea is to act arrogant but not rude if you do this I guarantee nobody will try to jerk you around.

    As far as daytime goes yes there is a different shift of girls who work the streets and clubs. Personally I prefer daytime hours and off peak days. If night time is your only option Thursday night is probably your best bet in terms of quality and a more relaxed environment. There is never a shortage of girls in the zona. Yes the selection will not be as great as peak days but I guarantee you will find one who will tickle your fancy. The advantage of daytime is you avoiding the headaches of being taken advantage of by overzealous waiters, girls, and staff. Another advantage of daytime is the girls are a lot more relaxed and more rapport can be built. This is key because all women even working girls respond to the same shit. If you establish some basic rapport with them you will have a better experience. Compliment them on their eyes or hair, jewelry, tattoos even though you could really give a shit less trust me Mexican girls love that shit they eat it up and will reward you for the compliments for it upstairs. Never stay overnight in Cascadas or any other hotels in the Zona. Too much noise to get meaningful sleep and not very secure. If you must stay in a hotel in the zona to kill time between sessions and need to freshen up I recommend Hotel Diaz it has clean rooms and showers and a promo for 4 hours for like $250.00 Pesos it's just south of the arches in the zona. One advantage is you can sometimes get street girls who are willing to walk over with you for sessions there. IF you want a nicer hotel Caesars hotel is your best bet in terms of price, quality and location. It is chica friendly so if you need to order out for service you will not have any issues. AIRBNB is a great alternative as well in Tijuana. Never carry any more the $100.00 cash on you at one time. I urge you to pay in pesos if possible. Should be enough for at least one session for a top tiered club girl or 4 street girls. Use the ATM"s at Sorriana Market near the Dominoes pizza on Revolucion or the Caliente casino a couple blocks south they are open late and are secure never had any issues with card fraud. If you never been to the zona I suggest you walk around during the day and do your recon. It is relatively a lot more safe during the day and you will have a lay of the land once night hits and are either too buzzed or tired to try to navigate at night. Once night falls Ubers or taxis are the only safe and reliable way to leave the zona. VIP card not really worth it unless you go multiple times per week. To me the cost does not justify the additional benefits for non frequent flyers. Waiters will hate on customers because they get jealous that girls they have crushes on are fucking other dudes or the girls will flirt with them and think they are into them when they are just hustling them to gain some benefit. Girls in these clubs are ruthless due to competition among other girls. The waiters can and do fuck with the girls money if they are rebuffed or feel slighted or girls will fuck other waiters or staff to get the other girls jealous so that is the nasty reality behind all the fake asses, tits, hair, and make up. This lifestyle is not all that glamorous to work in anybody in the adult entertainment industry can attest to this. So all in all the zona is a very fun and dangerous place to be a part of. Most of this is not new to seasoned vets but just wanted to give my insights to the new guys who are just starting out. Have fun out there and be safe. Also there is a lot more Tijuana has to offer besides the zona. I urge people to venture out during the day. Plaza Rio is a great place for civie action lots of hot young girls out shopping during the day.

  3. #8644
    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    If you go upstairs and order directly from the bar you will not have any issues. Also, if you want to just talk and drink with the girls take her to the Restaurant. You will save big money and they are not on the clock there. I do it all the time. I tip the bartenders, guys at the front desk, and the guys at the Rest. I do not mess with the waiters, no need. Ever since I started doing this my experience in H. K, has improved dramatically.
    Will do thank you. Am told that walking up to bar perhaps also results in one getting the brand tequila they ordered. Vs them pouring in a lesser version and assuming you will never know? Seems like that happened my second trip. No way that shit was the brand I ordered. 1st time down was good shit, must have really been what I ordered.

    Restaurant absolutely will do. Thanks again. OK to just drink at the restaurant?

    Tipping. Does the guy that hands her the temporary coat really need a tip? Shezzus. Is a buck enough? I gave him three after he did the New York cab driver thing (no change) with my $5.

  4. #8643
    What is the action like at Hong Kong during the day? I know it's packed during most night, but someone told they open at 11 AM. Is it a bit of a wasteland during the day or is it still worth while say 12 PM - 6 PM?

  5. #8642

    Game plan.

    I'm going Fri 21, coming back Sat 22. Here's my plan:

    Print the Boarder Pick-up and Buy One, Get One Free Drink coupons.

    Drive to Boarder Station Parking and leave my SUV there. Bring $1000 cash, backpack, and tourist wallet across the boarder into Tijuana. Is that too much cash? Do I need a hidden tourist wallet? How do I schedule the pick-up at the boarder or does the cab accept the coupon? Do I stop by a pharmacy and pick up Viagra just in case? If so, do I declare at the boarder if I have some left over?

    Purchase the $50 VIP Hong Kong card at Customer Service.

    Get a room at hotel Rizzo de Oro (does my VIP Card get me discounts there too? Or just Cascada? I hear Rizzo de Oro is quieter). Go to Hong Kong for a drink, dances, and bring back a hottie. Shower. Eat. Go see if a streetwalker is appealing, bring her back. Shower and sleep. Wake, eat breakfast, pick up another hottie (streetwalker or Hong Kong girl). Shower. Eat. Massage parlor any recommendation for happy ending? Pack. Have a Hong Kong chauffeur take me back to the boarder. Walk across. Back in my car headed back to OC.

    Did I miss anything? Recommend I do something different?

  6. #8641
    Quote Originally Posted by Muncher8888  [View Original Post]
    Had room for night at HK.

    Had girl I knew I wanted. And she wanted me. (OK guys just a little humor there.) But seriously we get along well as on my previous visit I had strictly talked to her. I approach her, we talk briefly, I make an offer that I know I will not budge from (60) and didn't even have to. She gave no bullshit counter or anything. She is down. No haggling, let's just enjoy was our mutual vibe.

    So we are literally about to stand up and go to the room and one of the staff comes over and tries hawking the VIP room. I show him wrist band and say "No thanks, room. " he keeps trying. Very pushy. I. mean. Tries. Really. Hard. Doesn't let up. Next tries to get her involved. So I wonder do he and she work together on some commission bullshit? Her body language is like she is not digging his VIP push either, the guy (me) just offered the room.

    Anyway we had to literally get up and walk away from babbling VIP dance pusher.

    WTF is up with these guys? Any thoughts from you vets on what to do, other then what I did?

    Continued props to you vets, particularly Captain Solo has been fantastic.
    I was there Saturday, they only bothered me briefly. If you go upstairs and order directly from the bar you will not have any issues. Also, if you want to just talk and drink with the girls take her to the Restaurant. You will save big money and they are not on the clock there. I do it all the time. I tip the bartenders, guys at the front desk, and the guys at the Rest. I do not mess with the waiters, no need. Ever since I started doing this my experience in H. K, has improved dramatically.

  7. #8640
    Quote Originally Posted by Sock111  [View Original Post]
    Enjoy it while it lasts. It happens every year. Many new girls start working in Nov for holiday money. After next week, they will return home for Christmas and you won't see them again.
    Had my all time best Hong Kong session right around Christmas last year (the night before Christmas Eve, my first time in Hong Kong) . Amazing girl but never saw her again. Unfortunately that was the only great session I ever had there and pretty much gave up taking girls out of HK altogether a few months later. I am sure you can find some gems this time of year though!

  8. #8639
    Quote Originally Posted by ScottHall  [View Original Post]
    The line up was pretty good. There were a lot of girls I'the never seen before in addition to the regulars. The girls seemed livelier than they usually are. I met an old spinner dancing on the bar, 26 yo but was youthful, short, and cute like a spinner. Nothing voluptuous, just a cute girl with a smile. I tipped her and she gave me a nice smile and a big smooch for it, tipped her again and she did the same. I was feeling good vibes from her and decided to try her for a drink. Pretty good idea, by the 2nd one it was a DFK fest. Lots of necking and stuff. Every once in a while you stumble across a girl that gives you a true GFE and this was one of them. No rush or upsell, didn't even arriba once. I've been down on the service at HK lately but this was a great find.
    Enjoy it while it lasts. It happens every year. Many new girls start working in Nov for holiday money. After next week, they will return home for Christmas and you won't see them again.

  9. #8638
    Summer before last, there was a couple who begged with their toddler in tow in the Alley. He would ask me every time for money. Finally one day I said to him, "Look, by the time I've walked to the Alley, I have had at least 10-15 people ask for money. I'm out of charity by this point. You got to move close to the border cross. ". I said this 2 maybe 3 times and it seems they stopped begging in the Alley at least. I see the father often but less often the mother.

    I give Daniel money out front of La Gloria because we joke about that YouTube / Vine video "Dammmmmmmmn, Daniel! Still rocking the white Vans!

    P

    Quote Originally Posted by ClamSlammer  [View Original Post]
    You got people that are pure trash with their hand out everywhere in Tijuana, especially the Zona and the border. I never give anybody anything. Honestly, and quite literally, I'd rather flush my money down the toilet than hand it over to them. One time I was waiting in the motorist line waiting to cross back. Up ahead I see a guy with a giant swollen elephant leg. For some weird reason I happened to be in a good, generous mood. So I start digging in my pocket for a buck or two. One of the cart vendors sees me and somehow knows that I intend to give Elephant Leg a buck. He yells over to Elephant Leg and he comes over to my car, starts knocking on my window, and demands I hand over some money. Needless to say, I ignored him.

    Worse still are children begging for money. Most of them are controlled by a handler who takes away all the money they get. And by giving these kids money you are contributing to the delinquency of a minor. You're encouraging them to stay on the streets instead of going to school.

    The worst is the adults that intentionally bring kids begging. These POS are putting innocent children in harms way in order to gain sympathy from passersby to gain a few pesos. Many of the toddlers are drugged to make them more controllable. There's this one guy who used to bring a baby into the zona late at night. He would always be shocked when I would ignore his pleas for money. He would keep on saying "I have a baby!" but I didn't give a fuck I'm not contributing towards that baby being in the Zona late at night.
    .

  10. #8637

    On subject of ignoring mesmeros (staff).

    Had room for night at HK.

    Had girl I knew I wanted. And she wanted me. (OK guys just a little humor there.) But seriously we get along well as on my previous visit I had strictly talked to her. I approach her, we talk briefly, I make an offer that I know I will not budge from (60) and didn't even have to. She gave no bullshit counter or anything. She is down. No haggling, let's just enjoy was our mutual vibe.

    So we are literally about to stand up and go to the room and one of the staff comes over and tries hawking the VIP room. I show him wrist band and say "No thanks, room. " he keeps trying. Very pushy. I. mean. Tries. Really. Hard. Doesn't let up. Next tries to get her involved. So I wonder do he and she work together on some commission bullshit? Her body language is like she is not digging his VIP push either, the guy (me) just offered the room.

    Anyway we had to literally get up and walk away from babbling VIP dance pusher.

    WTF is up with these guys? Any thoughts from you vets on what to do, other then what I did?

    Continued props to you vets, particularly Captain Solo has been fantastic.

  11. #8636

    Sat night.

    The line up was pretty good. There were a lot of girls I'the never seen before in addition to the regulars. The girls seemed livelier than they usually are. I met an old spinner dancing on the bar, 26 yo but was youthful, short, and cute like a spinner. Nothing voluptuous, just a cute girl with a smile. I tipped her and she gave me a nice smile and a big smooch for it, tipped her again and she did the same. I was feeling good vibes from her and decided to try her for a drink. Pretty good idea, by the 2nd one it was a DFK fest. Lots of necking and stuff. Every once in a while you stumble across a girl that gives you a true GFE and this was one of them. No rush or upsell, didn't even arriba once. I've been down on the service at HK lately but this was a great find.

  12. #8635

    No need.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tididyekim  [View Original Post]
    The meseros were all over me for sure, but I didn't feel like they were overly pushy. There was one incident when I was with the first girl. One of her co workers came to our area to eat the appetizer I had bought for her and the mesesro tried asking the second girl to see if she wanted anything. I shook my head and told him "nah nah nah nah. I'm going to go broke if I buy every girl a drink". I'm not sure if he understood me, but I'm sure he got the message.

    Here's a break down of costs from what I can remember that night. The girl I took up quickly asked for 100. I gave her a look like (What the heck?) she tried for 90, but I still gave her a look of disappointment. She said 80 and I agreed. I think next time I'll try finding the perfect girl first and then butter her up with fichas. Hopefully she'll give me a lower rate in the end.

    Entry + Heineken= $10.00.

    Tecate= $4.00.

    Heineken= $5.00..
    You bought you and her a drink, you tipped the mesero. I have had them hover like flies trying an appetizer, don't forget a visit from the basket guy too. Sometimes the mesero has to waive others off. Look him in the eye and say "I need some time with my girl to get to know her. Excuse us here. " Sometimes the meseros can be great but you must control the game.

    Always tip but know when to tell them to take a walk. Don't worry, they will be back to lift her drink at the half way mark. Again just say "good for now". This is more of a hint to the girl to drink faster. As soon as you walk thru that curtain the game has begun but how you control it will decide the time you have.

    And man I miss the game.

    Scudrucker.

  13. #8634
    You got people that are pure trash with their hand out everywhere in Tijuana, especially the Zona and the border. I never give anybody anything. Honestly, and quite literally, I'd rather flush my money down the toilet than hand it over to them. One time I was waiting in the motorist line waiting to cross back. Up ahead I see a guy with a giant swollen elephant leg. For some weird reason I happened to be in a good, generous mood. So I start digging in my pocket for a buck or two. One of the cart vendors sees me and somehow knows that I intend to give Elephant Leg a buck. He yells over to Elephant Leg and he comes over to my car, starts knocking on my window, and demands I hand over some money. Needless to say, I ignored him.

    Worse still are children begging for money. Most of them are controlled by a handler who takes away all the money they get. And by giving these kids money you are contributing to the delinquency of a minor. You're encouraging them to stay on the streets instead of going to school.

    The worst is the adults that intentionally bring kids begging. These POS are putting innocent children in harms way in order to gain sympathy from passersby to gain a few pesos. Many of the toddlers are drugged to make them more controllable. There's this one guy who used to bring a baby into the zona late at night. He would always be shocked when I would ignore his pleas for money. He would keep on saying "I have a baby!" but I didn't give a fuck I'm not contributing towards that baby being in the Zona late at night.

  14. #8633
    Quote Originally Posted by Rpatl  [View Original Post]
    What kind of prices were you seeing for arriba, and were the meseros all over you to buy drinks?
    The meseros were all over me for sure, but I didn't feel like they were overly pushy. There was one incident when I was with the first girl. One of her co workers came to our area to eat the appetizer I had bought for her and the mesesro tried asking the second girl to see if she wanted anything. I shook my head and told him "nah nah nah nah. I'm going to go broke if I buy every girl a drink". I'm not sure if he understood me, but I'm sure he got the message.

    Here's a break down of costs from what I can remember that night. The girl I took up quickly asked for 100. I gave her a look like (What the heck?) she tried for 90, but I still gave her a look of disappointment. She said 80 and I agreed. I think next time I'll try finding the perfect girl first and then butter her up with fichas. Hopefully she'll give me a lower rate in the end.

    Entry + Heineken= $10.00.

    Tecate= $4.00.

    Heineken= $5.00.

    Ficha mixed drink + Tacate = $15.00.

    Ficha small beer + Tacate= I think it was like $14.00. I couldn't have been cheaper, I forgot TBH.

    Appetizer= I can't remember exactly. It was somewhere in between $7 or $10.

    Arriba= $80.00.

    Damnit, I want to go again.

  15. #8632

    Hong Kong.

    Thanks for the write up. Learned a lot as I am going on Saturday and had gone back and forth between Adelitas and Hong Kong.

    What kind of prices were you seeing for arriba, and were the meseros all over you to buy drinks?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tididyekim  [View Original Post]
    I've been lurking on these forums for a few months now and never really thought to post any of my experiences. Since I took a recent trip to Hong Kong just yesterday, I thought it would be a great opportunity give back to the community. Now, I wouldn't consider myself a veteran monger, but I've had my fair share of strange State side, in Tijuana, and in the Philippines. Being that I'm 33 years old and single, I feel as though I still have a lot of mongering left to do. Well, at least up until I meet someone.

    It's been about two years since I've visited Tijuana and I'm honestly surprised at how much things have changed since then. Back then, I felt as if the quality of the girls were better at Adelitas during my last visit, but that certainly wasn't the case this time around. I got across the PedWest border around 9:30 and was approached by a guy in a suit asking me if I wanted a free ride to Hong Kong. My first thought was "hey what a nice guy", but then it dawned on me that he might be leading me somewhere to get robbed LOL. Everything was cool though.

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