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  1. #43451
    Quote Originally Posted by United1  [View Original Post]
    I did find a attractive girl. Beautiful face, nice body. Took her back to my place. But when clothes came off, very saggy boobs and 2 kids body. Wish I had spend more time finding a tighter pussy. But did get some DFK, BBBJ, Condom FS and we spent some time in my bathtub, which was nice.
    Always a huge risk with over dressed freelancers. Hence my more normal behaviour is to go to bars where I can see the body well. Even the double layer bras of Coyotes can be hiding crappy tits. Too risky generally unless can get the girl to show her tits. Even if the body comes out not too bad, still have the risk of low skills, or girls looking for a quickie, or stiff legs syndrome (dick scared). Definitely better for the Asian customers in Thermae. At least with street walkers, the amount of money risked is less.

    After having a very hot body GF for many years now, it is very hard to get excited by a sloppy body, for me. Dick may hardly stir. Every girl has a pussy yes, and may even be a pretty one, but it is not enough for me.

    I know other guys ask girls if they have a baby, however I can't see myself doing that, since many girls with babies still have a good body. Most of my regular girls (the odd exception) have a baby. Some even have a pussy a bit on the tight side of ideal for me. Some really beautiful pussy. Girls with baby, I would say, on average are not likely to be dick scared, and typically are more enthusiastic fucks.

  2. #43450
    Quote Originally Posted by BubbaBoy  [View Original Post]
    Those figures are spot on. Minimum wage jobs pay THB 325 (USD $10) per day. Only takes 2 out of 5 people to be on a decent wage of say THB 2000 (USD $60) per day to bring the over all average up to THB 1000 (USD $30) per day.

    I guess that is why they aim for THB 2500 to THB 3000ST, just a bit more than an average days pay of a skilled worker. Not that these girls are probably educated enough for a well paid job but puts some perspective into their pricing.
    Many office workers in Bangkok are making low end western-like salaries though right? Closer to 20,000 baht per (5-day) week is quite reasonable, which is only about USD $30 k / year, or about $15/ hour. So yeah in the ballpark of what an office girl would make if they get one or so person a day.

  3. #43449
    Quote Originally Posted by SBTiger  [View Original Post]
    300 B/ day x 25 days = 7. 5 K THB only (nobody works 30 days) - this sounds too low. But if it is that- that is what it is.

    https://checkinprice.com/average-min...gkok-thailand/
    Average Salary in Bangkok, Thailand.

    Average wages in Bangkok is pretty high compared to other areas of Thailand. Currently, the average wage in Bangkok is of 25,500 Thai Baht per month, or approximately 800 USD. (So 1000 B / day).
    Those figures are spot on. Minimum wage jobs pay THB 325 (USD $10) per day. Only takes 2 out of 5 people to be on a decent wage of say THB 2000 (USD $60) per day to bring the over all average up to THB 1000 (USD $30) per day.

    I guess that is why they aim for THB 2500 to THB 3000ST, just a bit more than an average days pay of a skilled worker. Not that these girls are probably educated enough for a well paid job but puts some perspective into their pricing.

  4. #43448
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    To avoid this next time ask the right questions like if she has had a baby, are her tits perky or saggy, and of course clarify the services she provides.

    2500 is the rate and has been the same for quite some time. Any higher quote means they need more money to go with you over someone they prefer (waiting for the 333 comments).

    Thanks for an actual review.
    Some quote 3 because they think they can get it (mine did and does). Normally I would have blown her off, as I always do girls who quote above prevailing rate. But she is WELL worth the extra 500. Spent all night with me last night for no extra money (though I gave her 4). In her fierce year end race for money, she's apparently off to Thermae tonight too. I told her just to come see me. Which apparently she really wants to do. But only short time tonite. anyways, 2500 IS the "going rate", but as has been mentioned there is a disparity in the looks and age(s) of the women at Thermae. I wouldn't be surprised if the younger and hotter girls ask and get 3 (if not more) .. let's say 4 minutes. 4 cm and 4 thousand baht?

  5. #43447

    Bangkok average salaries

    Quote Originally Posted by RobertLong  [View Original Post]
    I have heard from a few ladies that the employees at 7/11 are paid 300 a day. That comes to the average given if they work 7 days a week.

    But I agree that average office worker must make more. They hang out in Starbucks or any of the multitudes of Coffee Cafes and Malls. This means they have money to spend. Of course they live in small rooms and usually double up to share expenses.

    RL.
    300 B/ day x 25 days = 7. 5 K THB only (nobody works 30 days) - this sounds too low. But if it is that- that is what it is.

    https://checkinprice.com/average-min...gkok-thailand/
    Average Salary in Bangkok, Thailand.

    Average wages in Bangkok is pretty high compared to other areas of Thailand. Currently, the average wage in Bangkok is of 25,500 Thai Baht per month, or approximately 800 USD. (So 1000 B / day).

    Bangkok has some of the highest average salaries among ASEAN members capitals. Singapore is the first on this list, followed by Bandar Seri Begawan, Kuala Lumpur and then Bangkok.

    Nonetheless based on 350 B/day Low wages (even 1000 B/day Avg wages) - hooker rates should be much much lower than currently indicated 2-3 K / ST etc.


    Wages are based on demand / supply. There is ample / surplus supply here- as easily evident. So likely the Punters are not negotiating well - Econ101.

    Oh well,

  6. #43446
    Quote Originally Posted by United1  [View Original Post]
    I did find a attractive girl. Beautiful face, nice body. Took her back to my place. But when clothes came off, very saggy boobs and 2 kids body. Wish I had spend more time finding a tighter pussy. But did get some DFK, BBBJ, Condom FS and we spent some time in my bathtub, which was nice.
    To avoid this next time ask the right questions like if she has had a baby, are her tits perky or saggy, and of course clarify the services she provides.

    2500 is the rate and has been the same for quite some time. Any higher quote means they need more money to go with you over someone they prefer (waiting for the 333 comments).

    Thanks for an actual review.

  7. #43445

    Thermae. My thoughts.

    Hi gents,

    Thanks for the intels on THERMAE. Like others said, its literally a cattle call for freelancers. There are 50-100 girls lined up in a horseshoe pattern and the guys go in circles trying to find a date. Mostly Japanese and Korean. Not much place to sit and hang out. No dancing. Very transnational.

    Here is my take:

    - Between Nana and Asoke MRT on Sukumvit.

    - I like this format, because I don't drink and I am usually in bed by 11 pm, so don't want to spend too much time at gogo bars. Just want to find a quick bang and go to sleep. I got in around 9 pm on Friday and was about 60 girls. Can go in and out quickly.

    - Quality is across the board. There are stunners and very unattractive. The hot girls know they are hot and will not talk to you. I got a sense its hard to have a good conversation with these girls before agreeing on price and then leaving. So you guys who like to chat up a girl before proposing sex, might not be the place for you.

    - Majority Koreans and Japanese who can be quite annoying. I have a darker complexion and most of the girls wouldn't talk to me.

    - They claim standard price is 2500-3000 for ST. Not sure how true that is, but what I paid.

    I did find a attractive girl. Beautiful face, nice body. Took her back to my place. But when clothes came off, very saggy boobs and 2 kids body. Wish I had spend more time finding a tighter pussy. But did get some DFK, BBBJ, Condom FS and we spent some time in my bathtub, which was nice.

  8. #43444
    I really fail to see the relevance of how much is average earnings in other countries, and how that should affect the earnings of hookers in Thailand, which vary so incredibly. No connection in my mind.

    Are Thai hookers going to be influenced by how much hookers make in other countries? Not at all. They charge what they think they can get. When times are tough, the price goes up. Ha ha. Does not even really follow supply and demand principals. If a girl does only 1 fuck per day, she wants a lot more than another girl doing 5 guys per day. Bargirls became more expensive than Oily girls.

    We all know there are countries where hookers cost vastly more than Thailand for a several hour booking, and also know there is a cheaper alternative in Cambodia.

    I recall being told 2 or 3 years ago, that in Cambodia, you move outside the city area, where girls have no English and get a fuck for $10 no problem. So more like Thailand of many years ago. In 1991 in Thailand, could get a Thai girl for that sort of money. 1981 a girl may have cost only 100 to 150 Baht or so for sex in a province outside the city area, speculating a bit but having heard stories from a buddy. I was in Thailand in about 1983 but with wife in tow, was a bit restricted, so did not really get a handle on the prices. However I am sure it was the ideal time to be mongering in Thailand. HIV was not known and the biggest STD scare at the time was Herpes maybe.

    Mongering punters can choose which ever country and place gives them the best experience and value for money. Guys that monger in many countries are still coming back to Thailand. So something is still O.K. I have cut right back in Europe because it costs significantly more per hour.

  9. #43443
    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    Annual Household Income PER capita?

    Since PER Capita means "per person", do the figures mean per household or per working person? Who knows?

    Since I live in Mexico, I looked up the Mexican figures in the same report. The minimum daily wage in Mexico is about $4 USD / day. The report lists $2,700 USD per year which works out to be about $10 USD / day. Or about $200 pesos per day. Which is about what the average shop clerk, etc. Makes. So I must conclude that the report actually means Average Income Per Person.

    So that would mean that the average "low end" wage in Thailand would be about $400 baht / day which isn't far off from Robert Long's post saying $300 baht / day.
    Yes, I would say they mean per person, not per household, too, based on the USA numbers. They cite USA per capita (per person) income in 2016 as around $29,900 USD, which is about right per person while Annual Household income was generally cited in other sources as more like $56,000 per household.

  10. #43442
    Minimum wage varies throughout the US but anyone who shows up to work reliably and works even half hard can easily get a $10 an hour job with no education or skills beyond high school. That works out to 31 k US a year at 60 hours a week and 52 weeks a year for making no investment in your education or developing any skills. Excluding a few places in the world that is a damn fine job for not investing anything and entry level. Also at that level of earning there is a lot of government assistance available.

    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    Sorry that is not logical. Very top gogo girl that is very popular with lots of regulars and multiple STs per night can make 150 K Baht per month. That still doesn't compare to the really rich people in Thailand.

    However the average gogo girl maybe making between 30 K and 50 K, and some girls are so undesirable as to hardly get a BF and therefore make well under 30 K per month.

    American strippers make a lot maybe because there is so little alternative to them. The money thrown at them is ridiculous right? When they don't even have to fuck. Here, many guys are boycotting gogo bar girls because they have viable cheaper alternatives, e. G. 1 K street walkers on Soi 4 for a quickie, or MPs like Tulip, SW, etc. Comparisons with the US don't make a lot of sense to me, especially as I don't live there and visit rarely. Levels of the law and morality are different. Supply of hookers is far different. I have never had a fuck in the USA, as far as I remember (or definitely not a memorable one), and may have wasted a bit it on black hot strippers in San Francisco.

  11. #43441

    Who comes up with terms like this?

    Quote Originally Posted by SBTiger  [View Original Post]
    How much does a Thai earn in low end jobs?

    Based on https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicato...ome-per-capita.

    "Thailand's Annual Household Income per Capita reached 3,322.813 USD in Dec 2017".

    This would translate to 100 K THB / Yr- about 8 K PM. So not really 800 $ (25-26 k).
    Annual Household Income PER capita?

    Since PER Capita means "per person", do the figures mean per household or per working person? Who knows?

    Since I live in Mexico, I looked up the Mexican figures in the same report. The minimum daily wage in Mexico is about $4 USD / day. The report lists $2,700 USD per year which works out to be about $10 USD / day. Or about $200 pesos per day. Which is about what the average shop clerk, etc. Makes. So I must conclude that the report actually means Average Income Per Person.

    So that would mean that the average "low end" wage in Thailand would be about $400 baht / day which isn't far off from Robert Long's post saying $300 baht / day.

  12. #43440

    Yet another Angie I think - 1990's Nostalgia

    Some time during the 1990's Nana Plaza took off, don't recall the exact year, me preferring Lollipop and Pretty Lady nearby on left side ground floor. One bar had a nude mermaid fish tank. Nude dancing occurred for a small number of years. Later it was stopped and resurfaced in Cowboy. This was before internet days. Certainly no ISG to get tips from I guess.

    Here is a Goth girl, I believe called Angie, selected from Pretty Lady I think, due to hot bod, raunchiness. She was a good fuck and had no qualms at all about posing nude. A show off. Possibly on drugs of some sort. E. g. Yaa Baa. Had those wrist cut marks. You may even notice she has slightly more arm hair than desirable. In that year bald pussies did not really occur at all I think. All girls had some pussy hair.

    Did her just once (I believe) but still remember her quite well. I guess the photos help a little but I would not forget how the body was close to a 10. Face not quite my spec these days. Not quite the personality I would go for, however it meant there were no restrictions. Probably BBFS.

    Photos of old photo prints. Hence quality not top. Strange nose but I think probably natural. Looks nothing like the typical nose jobs.

    Would I do her today? I think if dancing nude, the body would win me over even if a bit of a low class raunchy type. There are not many girls with good natural tits like this these days exposed to see how good they are. Even in those days, not many girls with a body this hot in the gogos. I imagine she made money quite easily, as much hotter than most girls.

    Pic looks like I was staying at the Dynasty Inn nearby. Would not stay there any more. Ha ha.
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  13. #43439
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    A stripper in a nice strip club in the USA can make around 2,000 usd per night. So they make about the same as some of the highest paid professionals in America. Using that logic, Thai gogo girls should be making a huge salary.
    Sorry that is not logical. Very top gogo girl that is very popular with lots of regulars and multiple STs per night can make 150 K Baht per month. That still doesn't compare to the really rich people in Thailand.

    However the average gogo girl maybe making between 30 K and 50 K, and some girls are so undesirable as to hardly get a BF and therefore make well under 30 K per month.

    American strippers make a lot maybe because there is so little alternative to them. The money thrown at them is ridiculous right? When they don't even have to fuck. Here, many guys are boycotting gogo bar girls because they have viable cheaper alternatives, e. G. 1 K street walkers on Soi 4 for a quickie, or MPs like Tulip, SW, etc. Comparisons with the US don't make a lot of sense to me, especially as I don't live there and visit rarely. Levels of the law and morality are different. Supply of hookers is far different. I have never had a fuck in the USA, as far as I remember (or definitely not a memorable one), and may have wasted a bit it on black hot strippers in San Francisco.

  14. #43438
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    That's very low end jobs. The Thai people in our office make a damn good salary. They make almost as much as a similar position in the USA would pay. There are a lot of Thais doing very well.
    Without telling us the actual number, I will be surprised that is the general case.

    This means they are doing better and richer than the US workers because everything is cheaper here. It also implies Korean, HK, Japan, or Taiwan are all doing better than US. Some of these East Asia countries hire a lot of workers from Southeast Asia countries for about $800 a month working 6 days a week. A friend of mine has 5 maids. I know I will take about 40% salary cut if I transfer to Asia.

  15. #43437

    300 Baht a Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    That's very low end jobs. The Thai people in our office make a damn good salary. They make almost as much as a similar position in the USA would pay. There are a lot of Thais doing very well.

    A "low" paying full time job in the USA would be around 14,000 usd a year. But someone on welfare in the USA usually gets much more than that.

    I have more respect for a Thai making 3,000 a year or an American making 14,000 a year in the lowest paying job than I do for an American (or illegal alien) in the USA on welfare.

    A stripper in a nice strip club in the USA can make around 2,000 usd per night. So they make about the same as some of the highest paid professionals in America. Using that logic, Thai gogo girls should be making a huge salary.
    I have heard from a few ladies that the employees at 7/11 are paid 300 a day. That comes to the average given if they work 7 days a week.

    But I agree that average office worker must make more. They hang out in Starbucks or any of the multitudes of Coffee Cafes and Malls. This means they have money to spend. Of course they live in small rooms and usually double up to share expenses.

    RL.

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