German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[ExpatLover]

I will never but never understand the reason why guys are taking blue pills to fuck prostitutes, if I can't I will stay outside the clubs waiting for better times so will safe a lot of money and more importantly my health.

[Horny Harry]

Be prepared, it might be more difficult to get cash in Germany in the coming week (s) due to the security van driver strike. Personally, if this becomes a problem, I would drive to Venlo or Roermond over the Dutch border to get cash. Obviously not as practical if clubbing in Frankfurt.

https://www.apnews.com/adad52b472ec409db9d040f9d39649b0

Did some searching on German news sites and it turns out the strike was, drumroll, yesterday. LOL!

Everybody chill-lax! Money and ATM's won't run out, and if they do then Mario Draghi at the ECB will just print some more money and use helicopters to let it rain down on the proletariate!

[Takedown]

I will weigh in and say for my favorites I do spoil them a bit. Not by paying over standard rates but I've been known to conduct a pancake session, but not with all ladies. ATM there are two ladies I pancake, one more frequently than I should.

Often times with a new lady I will be 30 min and out for 50. A really nice new lady may get an extension to 60 min. The ones who act proper after that get repeat sessions. Some expect an automatic promotion to pancake material but that is a privilege earned.

Right. I think guys going for 4, 5, 6+ hour rooms is fine. If you enjoy the time and you're not getting ripped off, awesome. Want to throw in a legitimate extra like CIM or anal? Awesome. When guys criticize long roomers, I just see those guys as a bunch of cry babies upset that other boys don't play the game the way they prefer to play. Only they can't just take their ball and go home.

Then again, what do I know? I'm just a dumb yankee tourist, hah!

[Kosher Kowboy]

Kosher Kowboy,

I read here that you have some experience of using viagra from India. I have been using Suhagra made by Cipla in India for several years and had good experience with it until recent shipment which seems to be not as strong as used to (I guess maybe due to the competition and every manufacturer needs to cut cost and make its price competitive). My questions to you are: Have you tried to use more than 100 MG Indian viagra per time when you found it impotent? What is the cause of their impotence you think? Is it because of not enough quantity or other reason? Thank you.

Generics w / o a doubt can be inconsistent. Suhagra and Silagra same thing made by Cipla I think; I have used both. I also use the Kamarga (Ajanta) another Indian maker. I find them all the same but sometimes as you experienced the results are not the same. About ten years ago I split one of these generics in half and went to see a girl and performed barely. The next day I went to see another girl and took the second half and I was fucking Superman, it was as if 80 percent or more of the active ingredient were in one half of the pill however in recent years I have found ' all halves are equal' although I do notice some ' fulls' are not equal to others.

The cause of inconsistency I have no clue but we do know they aren't subject to FDA regulations. I have taken a 100 MG before sat on a Dietz couch for an hour and felt nothing other times I take 100 MG pill and and up with a hard on from visuals. So yes, I do overdose for two reasons.

1) inconsistency in the product and.

2) It simply wears off.

My bigger issue is I walk in to a club at 11, eat, wait one hour take a pill and at 1 PM I am ready to fuck. Come 4 PM it is starting to wear off so I take a little more or if I fuck soon enough I don't take more but eventually after eating dinner and time passing I need to take more so 150-300 MG a day is not unheard of. Than add in a little more at 3 Am in the RLD.

In light of this I am thinking Viagra alone even a phizer may not be the answer for the guy looking to boost his system for a period of 5+ hours unless one exceeds the daily recommended use.

I am going to try Chongmal's route of Cialis this next trip and in fact will test one today just need ' the Austin inventory' to wake up and see who is online to book and at that point I will take the pill. Yesterday I went and picked up (20) 20 MG. However they are Indian.

https://www.alldaychemist.com/ceebis...mg-tablet.html

Per the guy I got them from (in exchange for gel packs) this is the best generic Cialis he has used. We will see. FWIW I wanted Cialis for long lasting but he tells me Cialis does last him 2-3 pops as Chongmal reports but after 2-3 loads regardless of time it loses some punch. For this reason he wanted a gel pack. I plan the same, try out this pill and boost it with gel packs or a Viagra pill split up later in the day or I will simply take a troche.

Check this link out, these pharmacies are all over the country, Rx required but it is by far the fastest acting and w / o doubt zero inconsistency between doses, all 60 MG equally is what I get so a Cialis at club opening or an hour after I eat followed by a gel pack OR a troche later in the day might reduce the intake I need. I often find the gel packs too sometimes are not all equal and often I think one gel pack (100 MG) is weaker than the 60 MG troche and cost wise it is $3. 00 per troche, it is compound that is poured, by far if living stateside and you can't get brand name Cialis or Viagra the compound is by far the most effective product!

http://anrpharmacy.com/erectile-dysfunction/

On one of my first visits to Sharks I sold one (might have given) to a German attendee and he loved it, ended up buying the balance off me. The German liked it. His friends loved it. That should tell you all you need. For your best FKK experience be it club advise, a girl's service or the effectiveness of an ED drug simply play ' Follow / coat tail / listen to the German' for best results. It works. As to the females in general and my experiences the German girls also pay higher dividends in service levels and attitudes.

And on the matter of attitudes I can easily tie it in to ' the inconsistency' you refer too, if the girl has a bad attitude the drugs won't do shit as your ' mental-physical' connection will be going in opposite directions likewise if the WG has a great attitude (which is one reason I find paying 100 at Mainhatten for stress free guaranteed service beats paying 50 and ' possibly' being stressed out by some gazelle or kunt at Oase / Sharks') and if your mind isn't in the game the pills / gels / troches will not work so perhaps that could be part of what you are experiencing or for that matter not experiencing; drugs not the proper dosage as advertised or hiring a kunt or performance anxiety or feeling rushed etc will ruin any cock juiced up or not on Viagra / Cialis / Levitra.

Good luck.

[Takedown]

May I say that I think that this is typical scaremongering from a (US?) tourist that doesn't live in Germany, and doesn't speak the language (not able to read newspapers, internet sites or watch the 8 o'clock news), and therefore have a very limited (Google Translate + US websites) idea of what's going on?

In the medium city (150 k inhabitants) where I live there are no problems, are plenty of banks, plenty of cash machines, no queues. Nothing (as of yet!) in the news, no friends or colleagues have heard about this, nor are they withdrawing extra cash.

Perhaps a strike is planned, but things will not immediately come to a grinding halt and it's hardly a reason to panic and plan to rent a car so you can "drive to Venlo or Roermond to get cash."

Relax buddy. All that aggro for what reason bro? It was a well intended post to make sure people are prepared just in case they come visit for a short window of time so they don't get screwed. If no strike, awesome. If a strike happens, then they're prepared. The source was the Associated Press, not like it was some random blog.

How about not personally attacking a well intention messengers with a bunch of unfounded assumptions, it's not a good look.

[Pistons]

Takedown,

1. Seems we agree.

2. I like to exaggerate, but I know plenty of Americans who always tip 20% anywhere. So it is neighter 15 nor 30%. It seems to me to be 20% flat tipping amount. In Europe 10% is standard in restaurants. For other services like taxi etc, most people just round it up to a more even number. And up to 10%. But in an FKK, I would suggest the 10% to be more the norm if you spend all of the time as Bfsie points out. Two or three girls over the years have actually used my 100% of time spent as an excuse not to go with me. But after info from other girls they know whom I didn't tip for various reasons. So Bfsie's points are very valid. But as for the touristic clubs (same tipping application applies in Thailand tourist areas too by the way) in Frankfurt, the one annoying part is that nobody should ask for tip beforehand. And the tip percentages they ask for there is way too high. Like 50-100% more. Not 10%.

3. It is more likely you would get 45 minutes with 5 pleasure points, and 15 minutes with 8.

[Sebastiane]

Chongmal, what is a pancake session? You mean a threesome?

[Kuni042]

LOL. But you are right, some my not appreciate this. But this is what it is. I tipp every now and then a 10 or 20 e too, if service was really memorable.

And how many ladies will be grateful for that kind of tip? Not many I bet. Why don't you grant them additional tips by telling them they don't need to comb their hair nor renew their make up? Another tip would be for you to spread the sheets on the bed yourself and dispose of the sheets afterwards.

[XXL]

As I am a into safer sex (98% of the time), my tipp is that the ladies don't need to shower / clean / rinse as much- saves them 10 - 15 min each session....

And how many ladies will be grateful for that kind of tip? Not many I bet. Why don't you grant them additional tips by telling them they don't need to comb their hair nor renew their make up? Another tip would be for you to spread the sheets on the bed yourself and dispose of the sheets afterwards.

[Chongmal]

Are we sure about that? How many posters actually do? Or admit to doing so?

Look at some of the most frequent posters here and see if we can confirm if they are over payers.

Chongmal? No

So really, how can we qualify EastGoing's assertion that most board members here unnecessarily splash money?

Definitely not by overpaying. As far as doing long rooms at club rate, well it's club rate and you're paying the fair price.

I will weigh in and say for my favorites I do spoil them a bit. Not by paying over standard rates but I've been known to conduct a pancake session, but not with all ladies. ATM there are two ladies I pancake, one more frequently than I should.

Often times with a new lady I will be 30 min and out for €50. A really nice new lady may get an extension to 60 min. The ones who act proper after that get repeat sessions. Some expect an automatic promotion to pancake material but that is a privilege earned.

[Kuni042]

As I am a into safer sex (98% of the time), my tipp is that the ladies don't need to shower / clean / rinse as much- saves them 10 - 15 min each session.

I was thinking of switching my screen name / handle to SaferSex. Not sure if this can be done easily. Because this describes me best.

Many mongers don't realize that using about 80% of a session time or a little overpaying is the form of tipping. When you go to restaurant, hair salon or any other type of service business in Germany, you usually need tipping for its service, although the amount is not as much as in America percentage-wise. Sex business in Germany is not exceptional and there are three ways of tipping: using around 80%% of session time, a little overpaying and actual tip. If you don't do one of these 3 forms of tipping, you can usually expect that next time the WG wouldn't give you as good service as this time, just like the waitress of a restaurant wouldn't serve you good if you didn't tip her last time you were there.

In some tourist FKK clubs like the clubs in Frankfurt area, the WGs force you to pay tips by shortening your session to around 80% of session time or imposing extra or upselling to you. This is just like the restaurants in the tourist areas of the USA add the tips to customers' bills so that the tips become mandatory even if foreign customers don't want to pay it because they know that their visits would be their last visits there.




Kosher Kowboy,

I read here that you have some experience of using viagra from India. I have been using Suhagra made by Cipla in India for several years and had good experience with it until recent shipment which seems to be not as strong as used to (I guess maybe due to the competition and every manufacturer needs to cut cost and make its price competitive). My questions to you are: Have you tried to use more than 100 MG Indian viagra per time when you found it impotent? What is the cause of their impotence you think? Is it because of not enough quantity or other reason? Thank you.

[Horny Harry]

Be prepared, it might be more difficult to get cash in Germany in the coming week (s) due to the security van driver strike. Personally, if this becomes a problem, I would drive to Venlo or Roermond over the Dutch border to get cash. Obviously not as practical if clubbing in Frankfurt.

https://www.apnews.com/adad52b472ec409db9d040f9d39649b0

Yikes. What's the best option if one is flying into Frankfurt?

May I say that I think that this is typical scaremongering from a (US?) tourist that doesn't live in Germany, and doesn't speak the language (not able to read newspapers, internet sites or watch the 8 o'clock news), and therefore have a very limited (Google Translate + US websites) idea of what's going on?

In the medium city (150 k inhabitants) where I live there are no problems, are plenty of banks, plenty of cash machines, no queues. Nothing (as of yet!) in the news, no friends or colleagues have heard about this, nor are they withdrawing extra cash.

Perhaps a strike is planned, but things will not immediately come to a grinding halt and it's hardly a reason to panic and plan to rent a car so you can "drive to Venlo or Roermond to get cash."

[Bfsie]

Many mongers don't realize that using about 80% of a session time or a little overpaying is the form of tipping. When you go to restaurant, hair salon or any other type of service business in Germany, you usually need tipping for its service, although the amount is not as much as in America percentage-wise. Sex business in Germany is not exceptional and there are three ways of tipping: using around 80%% of session time, a little overpaying and actual tip. If you don't do one of these 3 forms of tipping, you can usually expect that next time the WG wouldn't give you as good service as this time, just like the waitress of a restaurant wouldn't serve you good if you didn't tip her last time you were there.

In some tourist FKK clubs like the clubs in Frankfurt area, the WGs force you to pay tips by shortening your session to around 80% of session time or imposing extra or upselling to you. This is just like the restaurants in the tourist areas of the USA add the tips to customers' bills so that the tips become mandatory even if foreign customers don't want to pay it because they know that their visits would be their last visits there.




Kosher Kowboy,

I read here that you have some experience of using viagra from India. I have been using Suhagra made by Cipla in India for several years and had good experience with it until recent shipment which seems to be not as strong as used to (I guess maybe due to the competition and every manufacturer needs to cut cost and make its price competitive). My questions to you are: Have you tried to use more than 100 MG Indian viagra per time when you found it impotent? What is the cause of their impotence you think? Is it because of not enough quantity or other reason? Thank you.

[Takedown]

Well as you say, the most frequent posters here don't overpay. Although some tend to do far more than the minimum pay. Less frequent posters on the other hand seems to pay a bit more it seems. But I suppose the question is a bit misleading. I would rather say people spending 200-1000 on a girl on one night is making it cheaper for the ones of us who sometimes just pay minimum. Overpaying or adding extras / extending time. The later is far more relevant. The first portion is no doubt dangerous and not good. But the later part can be. I guess I should have been more clear.

As for tipping, of course people even in Germany tip. All over Europe people tip. But instead of 20-30% tip like in USA, it is more standard to just tip 10%. That goes for all of Europe, and not just Germany. But there is of course the standard rules related to tipping, and it is all about service.

First, 20-30% is not standard tipping in America. 15-20% is standard in the food service industry while 10% or less is standard in other industries. The food service standard is only so high because food servers are only paid $2.13 per hour, a low minimum mandated by federal law. Some municipalities and states such as California and New York have a higher minimum; but nationally, a restaurant only has to pay its wait staff $2. 13 per hour. Point is, the American over tipping stereotype is overblown when compared to German and British standards. Perhaps it is true when compared to cheap French and Dutch but not that exaggerated compared to fiscally responsible Germans. I would say that 10-12% is probably closer to standard when considering all industries across the board, not that much different than the European standard you suggest.

Second, paying for extras and extending time should not have any negative attachments whatsoever and people who enjoy long rooms should not be ostracized for doing so. If anything, the minimum 50 euro sessioners should be made to re-examine his priorities if the priority to minimize expense is greater than the priority to maximize pleasure when participating in an extravagant hobby. Some people like to keep metrics on spending such as price per room, price per finish, or price per number of different girls. I find less value in that. What's more important for me is something that you cannot easily objectively place a metric: enjoyment of time spent to cost ratio. By that metric, guys who prioritize the finish above all else are basically paying 50 euro for 10 seconds of pleasure, a please poor metric.

I'm going to nerd out and measure it out this way: Pleasure points per euro spent. If a guy aims to finish all rooms in 30 minutes, he probably really prioritizes the finish. So let's say his enjoyment points are 5 points per minute for the first 29 minutes and 10 points during the last minute when he finishes. That's 155 pleasure points for 50 euro for an average of 3.1 pleasure points per euro spent. Compare that to the 60 minute guy who enjoys kissing, foreplay, and body caresses much more than the 30 minute guy; he enjoys 8 pleasure points for 59 minutes and 10 points in the last minute of finishing. That's 482 pleasure points for 100 euro for an average of 4.82 pleasure points per euro spent. Using that metric or a less crude formula close to it, the one hour guy is getting a hell of a better deal than the 50 euro minimalist, 155% better to be exact.

[Sirioja]

Well as you say, the most frequent posters here don't overpay. Although some tend to do far more than the minimum pay. Less frequent posters on the other hand seems to pay a bit more it seems. But I suppose the question is a bit misleading. I would rather say people spending 200-1000 on a girl on one night is making it cheaper for the ones of us who sometimes just pay minimum. Overpaying or adding extras / extending time. The later is far more relevant. The first portion is no doubt dangerous and not good. But the later part can be. I guess I should have been more clear.

As for tipping, of course people even in Germany tip. All over Europe people tip. But instead of 20-30% tip like in USA, it is more standard to just tip 10%. That goes for all of Europe, and not just Germany. But there is of course the standard rules related to tipping, and it is all about service.

Several studies have been made regarding tipping also in Europe. For example one found out that if the waitress had a flower in her hair, she got more tip. Another one showed that smiling helped greatly. A third one showed that if she wore a name tag, she got more in tip because it made the waitress service more personal. So it goes to show that if the service personnel manage to create positive impulses, they get more tip, and the customers are less likely to get angry even if the food was bad. Because the service personnel is no longer a robot you can scream at. He or she has feelings too. And every service job is basically the same. The service personnel have to sell themselves. And we all tip because we like to encourage this type of personal behavior.

I hate to speak about money with girls, making me think about grocery for sex, I hate upselling, killing my illusion, I left rooms with Luci or Mady who was my GF at History Basel Liestal and never repeated, I never tip, my only tip is to repeat as long I enjoy, but I don't think all girls worth same rate. I hate to spend 50 or 100 for a average room with a GND, I prefer to pay more expensive for a beauty at Palace and for excellence at Globe, when Germany is down for me at the moment. I like what I felt on last Friday, when I was disappointed because of bad snow for my ski plus one more injury, so I preferred to give up, waiting for better snow, so I returned to Globe. After watching Bormio and Semmering. At, I saw a desirable 27 yo Hungarian, 1 rare exceptional hour, 260 € , and as soon we finished shower and kissing after I paid, I felt I wanted her again. Great feeling, when I m not interested just to fuck a piece of meat.

I prefer to pay more expensive for better quality, but also have to make the girl gives You quality, willing to please you.