Crime, Safety, and the Police

[BearBare]

I go down often, about every 3-7 days I'm guessing. Both PedEast and West. The real differences post 2018 caravan is Mexico takes it more seriously about allowing people back on the bridge to the PedWest CBP point. Sometimes they stop at the carousels and sometimes at the bottom of the ramps. I suspect you mean threat wise. There's no difference. I was going down even when they were trying to swarm the border. There's a much higher police presence but if you're an American with your passport ID card or Passport, your threats and procedures are unchanged. Albeit illegal crossings are a problem, its not at all a problem for cross-border tourists.

I have read most of the recent reports regarding the caravan at the border, but have a different interest than being for or against immigration. I have not been to Tijuana in over 20 years, so obviously things have changed. What I am interested in is if the current immigration situation along the border makes it unwise for me to go there for a few days? I understand one needs to be smart about getting to / from the port of entry as well as walking around in the Zona Rosa. I plan to stay in the hotel above HK and make use of their transportation service. What concerns, if any, does the caravan pose in the Zona Rosa or in the immediate vicinity of the port of entry? I am in need of some stress relief and now live close enough to go just for a few days. I just want to better understand the risks of traveling there at this time given all the immigration problems Tijuana is currently experiencing. Thanks in advance for the advice.

[LookingToSwing4]

I have read most of the recent reports regarding the caravan at the border, but have a different interest than being for or against immigration. I have not been to Tijuana in over 20 years, so obviously things have changed. What I am interested in is if the current immigration situation along the border makes it unwise for me to go there for a few days? I understand one needs to be smart about getting to / from the port of entry as well as walking around in the Zona Rosa. I plan to stay in the hotel above HK and make use of their transportation service. What concerns, if any, does the caravan pose in the Zona Rosa or in the immediate vicinity of the port of entry? I am in need of some stress relief and now live close enough to go just for a few days. I just want to better understand the risks of traveling there at this time given all the immigration problems Tijuana is currently experiencing. Thanks in advance for the advice.

[StRobert]

"The city's year closed with more than 2,500 killings" "While the numbers are higher than ever, law enforcement authorities say most of the homicides are targeted and linked to the lucrative neighborhood drug trade, as dealers fight over street corners. Primarily at stake is the city's methamphetamine market, and to a lesser degree heroin sales, they say.

"From what we're seeing, it's definitely the street sales in Tijuana that they're struggling over," said Bo Morris, Special Agent with the USA Drug Enforcement Administration" link to the article here https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...226-story.html.

[StRobert]

"Border Patrol fires tear gas again after 100 caravan migrants try to cross over from Tijuana to San Diego on New Year's Eve" link https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Years-Eve.html.

[MongerHunger]

Problem is your statements are directly contradicted by quantified statistics the CBP publishes. The number of crossings has plunged and the number of detentions for illegal crossing is at 46 year low.

https://www.npr.org/2017/12/05/56854...it-46-year-low

The thing is that there is a problem with all his statements. Mostly made-up, fantasized, delusional stories and reports while craving attention from grown men in this forum.

[BearBare]

Problem is your statements are directly contradicted by quantified statistics the CBP publishes. The number of crossings has plunged and the number of detentions for illegal crossing is at 46 year low.

https://www.npr.org/2017/12/05/56854...it-46-year-low

I understand in cities you get foreign languages. My point was in referance to anyone who thinks those caravans we're stopped, will be stopped, slowed down etc. Including the folks that want a wall. The entire earth population is welcome to move to USA today, and work for several years till denied asylum. And border patrol is seeing huge increases, and legally they are allowed here, and it has changed entire towns on the east coast that we're once English speaking, that have gone from 10% Spanish people to 80 to 90%. It's not one town, or two, it's most of them in the north east. They love it here, they don't like the south or west coast probably due to border patrol risks if you are within hundred miles of the border you can get harassed by border. That's why Trump won a lot of areas out here I was shocked anyone voted for him, and everyone here said it's because of illegals. It was funny because I could care less about this place turning to Latin America since I live in five states but the point was the people are coming, they are allowed here, and only misguided uninformed people will stay in the caravan for more than two days as border patrol is picking up thousand a day now climbing over the wall.

[NegotiateHard]

"Although English is the most commonly spoken language, there is actually no official language in the United States at the federal level. The US is one of the linguistically diverse countries in the world. Historically, approximately 500 languages have been spoken in the country with English as the widely used language. May 9, 2018.

What is the Official Language of the United States? - WorldAtlas.com" GNRPorsche - If you visit San Francisco, you will probably see a lot of signs in shops in Chinese, Los Angeles in Korean, Chicago in Polish, Brooklyn in Russian and Hebrew etc. We live in the USA not in England and there is a big difference in the ethnic composition of the population. I don't understand why you are outraged. Shop owners and business owners need these signs in other languages for business purposes.

Is the USA that much more diverse than England? I really imagined England being super diverse. Well maybe not as much as the USA.

[StRobert]

I see it on east coast half the signs in stores are now in Spanish Target Walmart Kmart. The malls. Everything now in Spanish.

"Although English is the most commonly spoken language, there is actually no official language in the United States at the federal level. The US is one of the linguistically diverse countries in the world. Historically, approximately 500 languages have been spoken in the country with English as the widely used language. May 9, 2018.

What is the Official Language of the United States? - WorldAtlas.com" GNRPorsche - If you visit San Francisco, you will probably see a lot of signs in shops in Chinese, Los Angeles in Korean, Chicago in Polish, Brooklyn in Russian and Hebrew etc. We live in the USA not in England and there is a big difference in the ethnic composition of the population. I don't understand why you are outraged. Shop owners and business owners need these signs in other languages for business purposes.

[Captain Solo]

The rusty 20-foot tall steel wall along the border at Las Playas must be buried very deep with massive concrete foundation for them to stand and not collapse.

But there were videos showing migrant families, including children, crawl through a shallow hole under the wall and enter the US.

Looks like the wall's height won't stop illegal entries. They just find weak spots and dig holes through it.

[Hargow20]

I have my doubts as well. There was story the other day that many of migrants have gotten jobs and or are applying for work was well. I am sure there is criminal element within them as well.

I don't think it has anything to do with the caravan. Those people are not hanging around long, they caught 500 in one day last week on the Mexico Texas border in one spot, entire bus loads drove them from Guatemala. They all got processed immediately. No reason any caravan person should be staying in Tijuana more than one day. Simply climb the wall and wait for border patrol to process you for a week then they drive you to Greyhound station. Three caravan teenagers kidnapped robbed yesterday in Tijuana, two are deceased, USA tax payers will pay millions in that lawsuit for making them wait in the to be processed. Better to just let everyone in who's not previously banned, immediately than pay all these lawsuits. We are looking at whole scale multi country evacuations, I see it on east coast half the signs in stores are now in Spanish Target Walmart Kmart. The malls. Everything now in Spanish.

[MongerHunger]

These posts get more comical by the day. I do wish there was an auto-ignore feature.

US taxpayers are now on the hook for murders occurring in Tijuana? I'm sure there's an attorney that will try.

Back on the east coast now? LOL.

As I think about it I think that he is under aged with his immature post, fantasized stories, made up reports, lies and such. Just wanting attention like a child. I would bet pesos that he is just that.

[Dcrist0527]

I don't think it has anything to do with the caravan. Those people are not hanging around long, they caught 500 in one day last week on the Mexico Texas border in one spot, entire bus loads drove them from Guatemala. They all got processed immediately. No reason any caravan person should be staying in Tijuana more than one day. Simply climb the wall and wait for border patrol to process you for a week then they drive you to Greyhound station. Three caravan teenagers kidnapped robbed yesterday in Tijuana, two are deceased, USA tax payers will pay millions in that lawsuit for making them wait in the to be processed. Better to just let everyone in who's not previously banned, immediately than pay all these lawsuits. We are looking at whole scale multi country evacuations, I see it on east coast half the signs in stores are now in Spanish Target Walmart Kmart. The malls. Everything now in Spanish.

These posts get more comical by the day. I do wish there was an auto-ignore feature.

US taxpayers are now on the hook for murders occurring in Tijuana? I'm sure there's an attorney that will try.

Back on the east coast now? LOL.

[Hargow20]

The area between on Cohuilla st between Constitution and Revolution can be risky at night. About 3 years ago 2 ratero's jumped & robbed me. When I am in the Zona at night I almost never leave the Zona area. The pedestrian bridge area is a risky these days since it is desolated at night and also because the city has not fixed the lights on the ramps. These days I take the Uber if I am heading back after 9 pm. In the end it is best to remember that Mexico is a crazy place so it is important to try and reduce your risks as much as possible and always keep your guard up in TJ.

I've had three total mugging attempts in Tijuana and all 3 predated the migrants caravans. Two were Mexican nationals on Coahulia between Revo and Ninoes Heros. The third was just east of the waterfountain at the west side of the Tijuana River pedestrian bridge (main walkway that leads to Arch if you walk west). Two were normal hours (between. 9 pm and 11 pm) and the Ped Bridge was me being stupid at about 2 am and letting my situational awareness drop (I had grown accustomed to seeing vagrants at the bottom of the stairs). That attempt was a deportee (spoke perfect English with no accent) and a Mexican friend (an assumption based on appearance, no English, and the fact he was about 25 yrs old, yet only 5' 4" around 140. At 220 5 foot 10 inches, I had my way with him with ease).

I would agree that fighting back is prob a bad idea but, I have prior military related experience (deployed 3 years and trained for hand to hand) and I honestly don't give a fuck. You're going to have to put in work to steal from me.

[Phordphan]

I resisted when mugged by six well dressed 20 year olds but I didn't actually get the opportunity to fight back as it ended fast.

You left out the part about the "gang" consisting of men and women, and that they were all really short.

[RickyVee]

Yes I too have a similar background TDY'the many dangerous spots. Now that I am civie I try to keep low pro but sometimes that's not possible. It's like those old reflexes kick in and it's autopilot mode. Besides, these dirt bags were begging to be made an example of. After the cops saw how bloodied these guys were they started asking me what I did for work, I told him I was a used car sales desk jockey, somehow how I don't think he believed me. I did not want to go to the station because I was afraid they would start interrogating me. There is a lot of shuffling going on in the plaza with the narcotics trade and the last thing I wanted to be accused of his working for the powers that be competitors. The cops said there were witnesses that saw the whole thing. My gut instinct told me if I was taken things might have gone south real fast for me. Lesson learned next time I will just walk away but sometimes retreat is not an option. It's just real unfortunate that the vast majority of us patronize this city and this is how we we are repaid for our tourism dollars. Not only do we pump a lot of chicas but a lot of American dollars to this area. To be fair there was at least a cop around but the fact that they are not more vigilant about rounding these guys up off the street does not benefit anybody in the long run. Well that's Mexico boys. Heads on swivel is the motto for the Zona.