Manila

[Soapy Smith]

Unfortunately I think "the better ones" are just becoming very rare period: online, in person, or anywhere. Obesity and motherhood have taken a very serious toll on the prostitution poll in the PI over the last 5 years.

Or maybe the "improving" Philippine economy has kept many of the "better" ones off the market. Obesity and motherhood are not new to the Philippines, so perhaps they're merely symptoms of a changing market rather than the cause of its decline.

[Free2]

Red Kilt. Sorry that the smokey haze in LAC doesn't agree with you, but the new laws are a real pain. Not being able to smoke hardly anywhere now. LAC is the only place so far I have come across where you can smoke with a cold one. Somebody told me you can get a ticket for smoking while just walking down the street. What has happened to our beloved Phils where everything goes??

Dg8787 - Nothing wrong with slanty eyes except when the husband asks why!!

Goons. You got balls of STEEL man! I have always stuck to the short time hotels along Rizal and thought that was risky enough. Going back to unknown area, wow, glad you got out alive.

Goferring. It was good to meet you. You are a decent bloke and my first ISGer to meet in person. We barhopped along Burgos and despite Goferring saying he is somewhat of a lightweight, he outlasted me. We found the best bar of the night was XOXO. Really hopping with fun girls. I never barfined anybody, choosing rather the cheaper option with a SW whom I negotiated down to 1000. She must have weighed only about 80 lbs. After the deed at the hotel back in Malate, she said she was going back for another customer because she needs 2000. So sorry about the sloppy seconds whoever you are. See pic in Photo Gallery.

Backing up a bit, I landed at midnight, got to the hotel, walked to LAC, mightily contributed to the smokey haze for a short time, picked out a girl, taxi back to hotel and she was gone. All of this in about 2 hours from touchdown! I just had to get my first notch of the trip out of the way. Overpaid (2500) for ST but she was very pretty and nice body. After all I have said about the lack of condom use, she insisted on using one. I tried every trick in the book to get out of it, but went ahead just to get it over with. I put it just on the tip and hoped it would come off while going doggy style but it stayed on.

Yesterday I met a new Facebook contact that I connected with and started chatting with 1 week prior to the trip. She came to SM mall (2 hrs by transpo, what a GOOD girl) and didn't ask me for shit prior which is always a good sign. We ate at Padi's Point and she drank 3 x SM Apples (3% Nice lay back at the hotel, very short 4'-9" and 40 kg, 19 years old. Love those tiny little bodies. Has 2 kids but very little evidence of it. The eldest is 5 years old (got preggy at 14? She laughed and said yes) and the youngest is 2 but her dad took it away from her (didn't get the story). Really nice girl, clean, never asked for anything, the typical very shy with the white guy attitude which was very boring at first. Then we went to the casino / bar where there was a live band and after 2 x long island iced teas, she was more herself. Cute as a button, even with her schoolgirl glasses on. Kept me warm all night with a repeat in the AM, despite the hangover lingering. We enjoyed the hotel free breakfast buffet and then I kicked her out. I love seeing these girls eat up healthily at the hotel buffets and not stuffing themselves with cheap rice. Probably the best meal they will have for a long time.

[Rick Rock]

Yes, I was quite disappointed when I was there in December, too. Have all the better ones transferred to social media?

Unfortunately I think "the better ones" are just becoming very rare period: online, in person, or anywhere. Obesity and motherhood have taken a very serious toll on the prostitution poll in the PI over the last 5 years.

[Turgid]

.............. my first day I knocked a pedicab driver silly for lunging at me...................

You certainly live up to your nom de plume.

[Goons]

Thanks to those who gave input on my SW query around Carriedo. I've stayed in the Philippines before for several months at a time and had some good times with streetwalkers in Cebu, I thought it would be something to check out while in in town. I've had a wacky few days in Manila, my first day I knocked a pedicab driver silly for lunging at me, witnessed by a cop and other pedestrians near Robinsons. I had to pick him up off the street and move him to the side to keep him from walking back into traffic. The cop just motioned for me to carry on and leave him so I got out of there as quickly as I could. I looked over as I was walking away and saw the cop standing over him saying something, he did not look too concerned. My first stop was LA, early evening and as expected, I did not really dig the vibe in there so I sat around for a few minutes pretending to read the menu and left.

I had a quick beer at a 711 and wandered around the area a bit before heading out to Carriedo area and the nearby Rizal and Recto streets to check out SW action.

The first one I found outside Kamagong Hotel, close to the LRT exit, was chubby, petite with good legs, not a bad looker with long black hair but clearly with a bit of a gut. She had a mamasan, I negotiated 400 from 500 and had to follow her through some nearby alleys into a local neighborhood with small st guesthouse. It was a shitty room with no ac, the type people use for sex or to do drugs in. Mattress was uncovered vinyl type cushion, wooden door with latch lock and very dim light hanging from a wire on the ceiling. I paid 150 for the room, the woman out front gave us a key and some folded tissues. There was a separate toilet that had no light.

Despite being well lit, I was a bit worried about the neighborhood and how deep it was from the main thoroughfare, I had taken all the precautions before this trip to pack anything too expensive, clothes, sandals, packed an older camera body and lens combo but on the morning of my flight I had absent mindedly put on my breitling with a rubber strap, similar in feel to the Garmin watch I had bought and charged the day before. I thought about leaving it in the room safe but decided to just wear it, moving it to my belt loop when going to shifty places like this.

Right as we were getting started, there was a knock on the door, mamasan had followed us and demanded a tip of 50 pesos. I relented a bit but didn't feel like making a thing of it, so I gave it to her and told her to go away. At this point I had opened my folding knife I carry with me and put it down on the little table and covered it with a handkerchief ready in case something popped off.

I was charged another 50 for the condom by the girl, her attitude had changed and she was hurrying me and swore a lot. She was quite tight and despite not taking her top off, I was sufficiently turned on. Probably better that she kept it on as I am not a fan of girls with flabby stomachs. Anyway, the heat and the whole situation just made it hard to cum. Add to that after about 3 minutes she kept hurrying me even more and complained when I asked for a position change, we argued a bit before resuming but not without her continuing to swear and try to rush me. After about 8 minutes, I still could not cum she complained again and started to get up. I'd had enough at this point and didn't really care so I got up as well, unsheathed and threw the 50 peso condom at her before she was able to pull her skirt down and get out. It took me a while to get my shorts on and make sure I had all my shit with me, by the time I got to the exit she was there talking to two guys. I had my knife out, holding it under my shirt so it was not so obvious. Thankfully I passed them without anything happening, navigated my way out of the neighborhood and found the main street to get the fuck out of there.

I usually try to find SW action when I visit a place but this was quite a shitty experience, not at all like the ones in Cebu 15 years ago. I did have a slightly better one a week later when I found myself in the area after visiting Binondo. On the corner of Recto and Rizal, near the Mcdonald's, another chubby girl, made a strong pitch, talking about good sex and putting her hands on me right there on the street. No other options at the time so I bit. This time we went to a short time hotel near the main roads. Paid 200 pesos for two hours, the room was not much better but it had an AC and bed covers (torn and not fully on covering the bed). I had negotiated 500 for two rounds but did not really expect her to keep to it. Like the first one her attitude changed when we got on the room, wanted to hurry but she did not swear as much and made some jokes in between. I made the mistake of asking her if she was high right in the middle of fucking. She immediately stopped me and got up, turned on the light which she had demanded to turn off at the start and ask if I had any meth on saying she would blow me and do all sorts of stuff if we could use. She asked me three or four times to show her if I had any on me. I made it clear I had none and was only there to fuck so she turned off the light disappointed and let me finish. She tried to get me to go in with her to buy some meth afterwards, talking all sorts of shit about good stuff available nearby and all that plus extra sex and how she didn't charge me 50 for the condom etc.

Not great experiences but I had to try. Not a whole lot of options that I saw on the three or four days I went by, mostly chubby girls, late 20's and up, sometimes I passed by the area and there was nobody available. Maybe my timing was off or maybe action there is not as good as it once was.

I went back to LA during my stay and had some wechat and a tinder girl which I'll write about next.

[D Cups]

LAC is my bar of last resort. I haven't been there in a few years, but I'd almost rather spend the evening alone, catching up on sleep. I hope the beer was cold, at least.

Yes, I was quite disappointed when I was there in December, too. Have all the better ones transferred to social media?

[SaltyPete]

I had business in Malate today so I took the opportunity to check out LAC at around 2 pm.

I know all about how it is best to go at night time etc etc but some guys are interested in day-time activity.

Place was packed for a Tuesday, and women outnumbered guys by at least 3 to 1.

Unfortunately, smoking is allowed in the cafe and so there was a blue haze over everything.

I did a quick lap, mentally calculating the average score across the female clientele as between 3 and 4 (and I am not terribly choosy).

The mathematicians amongst you know that an average of 3 to 4 means there were probably some 5's and 6's around but they were balanced by the 1's or 2's.

I decided to sit down and have a beer and see if anything changed, as I thought it couldn't possibly get worse.

I was wrong. Within 5 minutes I watched a few of the 6's leave and the average plummeted to 3.

I fled, coughing and wheezing from the smoke and left a half-filled beer.

That's probably my 2019 LAC visit under my belt.

LAC is my bar of last resort. I haven't been there in a few years, but I'd almost rather spend the evening alone, catching up on sleep. I hope the beer was cold, at least.

[Red Kilt]

I had business in Malate today so I took the opportunity to check out LAC at around 2 pm.

I know all about how it is best to go at night time etc etc but some guys are interested in day-time activity.

Place was packed for a Tuesday, and women outnumbered guys by at least 3 to 1.

Unfortunately, smoking is allowed in the cafe and so there was a blue haze over everything.

I did a quick lap, mentally calculating the average score across the female clientele as between 3 and 4 (and I am not terribly choosy).

The mathematicians amongst you know that an average of 3 to 4 means there were probably some 5's and 6's around but they were balanced by the 1's or 2's.

I decided to sit down and have a beer and see if anything changed, as I thought it couldn't possibly get worse.

I was wrong. Within 5 minutes I watched a few of the 6's leave and the average plummeted to 3.

I fled, coughing and wheezing from the smoke and left a half-filled beer.

That's probably my 2019 LAC visit under my belt.

[Albert9989]

Hi, I am the one you say my brain has taken vacation, cf Angeles thread, 😊, and now I am in the middle of my trip which is going very very fine.

First i met the 27 yo girl I was chatting with since may be 3 years, in Makati, Durban hotel. 1 st time I was in burgos, I don't think I am the guy for these sex marathons we can have there, even if I agree that, sitting at Durban terrace, I saw plenty of girls walking in this small Durban st, some of them looking so cute, I agree there are beauties here. Or lbs..... Difficult to know, but there a great topic on that....

Si i met the chat girl on morning, and even if I knew she was petite, what a surprise, something like 1. 4 m around, that's very small, and so cute! Very slim, but well proportioned, nice small breasts firm and round, but yes, petite, head arriving just on top of my stomach! I didn't knew there can be so cute and petite girls, I knew her from video chats, but difficult to realize the real size. We had a great session during 3 hours all sweet and calm, she moves softly and that's a strange feeling having that small body all over you. Even for sex she was obviously very thin but agreed to, and made efforts to enter my thing very slowly and smoothly, Hmmm. Cummed outside but was so great.

Will meet her again on next 21 for 4 days again still Durban hotel.

Next post to come in cebu thread about my other appointment in iloilo.

[Dg8787]

I know a Tondo girl who went to the Pagcor casino on Mabini & Padre Faura with her friend, met a japanese guy who paid them both 7 k for 1 round. She now has his kid with slanty eyes. LOL.

Something wrong with slanty eyes?

[Chocha Monger]

I know a Tondo girl who went to the Pagcor casino on Mabini & Padre Faura with her friend, met a japanese guy who paid them both 7 k for 1 round. She now has his kid with slanty eyes. LOL.

The Japanese guy hit the jackpot.

[Free2]

I know a Tondo girl who went to the Pagcor casino on Mabini & Padre Faura with her friend, met a japanese guy who paid them both 7 k for 1 round. She now has his kid with slanty eyes. LOL.

[Member #4698]

I see there are several casino's in Manila, anyone ever try to pick up the girls at the casino's? Ran across a cuite on the Dating in Asia website that said she was a dealer at a casino and it got me thinking.

I have stayed at the Hyatt City of Dreams a couple of times and enjoyed going to the adjacent COD Casino especially late at night with or without a girl I just sessioned with to get something to eat, drink, and when I am solo to look for girls. It's like little Macau. Kind of, LOL. But the casino runs a pretty tight ship so not that many obvious FL's get in, but some always do and you can spot them easily enough hanging around the slot machines. They will give you the smile to let you know they are available.

In addition, there are 2 nightclubs on the 2nd floor of the casino called Chaos and Pangaea. In Pangaea you will see mostly large groups of customers consisting of solo girlfriends & couples sitting, drinking, and dancing around semi private table couch areas, but I have also seen pairs of girls hanging out by the bar nursing a drink and some of them might or might not be professional. Does it matter if they are willing?

Chaos is sometimes busy and sometimes not busy. You have to just go to COD to find out. One night I met a couple of girls in Chaos at the bar. They were very friendly and open to my buying them drinks. The three of us had a good time drinking and dancing in the club. I ended up taking the prettier girl to my nearby Hyatt hotel room where she showed me an even better time. There was no mention of money although the bar tab was well over 4,000 p. Later after our 1st round I ordered room service for 2. In the morning, after our 2nd round she refused my 2,000 p "taxi money," but being the nice guy that I am, I placed the money in her purse anyway while she was tidying herself up in the bathroom.

Note: I was last in Manila in 2017, so my info maybe somewhat dated. I am returning to MNL in the spring and plan to spend half my time at the Hyatt COD again. I will let you know if anything has changed. Thursday, Friday and Saturday were the best nights to take a look at the 2 COD casino nightclubs.

[Breadman]

I see there are several casino's in Manila, anyone ever try to pick up the girls at the casino's? Ran across a cuite on the Dating in Asia website that said she was a dealer at a casino and it got me thinking.

[Retgilpo]

That's possible but since you don't know her you can't be so sure. Not all of these girls are hardened lying and cheating pro's.

I'm getting really tired of all the sweeping generalizations in the Phils threads lately.

Don't ruin all happiness here.

It all depends how much money she expects. Specially after a few months.

But yes they all lie. So an SD test is always advisable before doing anything meat on meat.

I met a girl the same way. 2 years no sex she said (20 yo, 4'7" 78 lbs lucky me).

Only 1 local man who gave her 2 babies she said.

She gave sex directly in the hotel and came 14 times first day (in 3 rounds).

I still think she fucks every white man who comes close to her.

Cause they all see every white man on the street. Like hawks.

OK OK. After 2 years now (and seeing her 10 times 2 weeks).

She answers every white who gives her a compliment on FB (thank you sir).

She smiles most of the times back to every white.

I think if a girl fucks you the first time and screams so many times she is same like most men here on this site!

Specially after a beer, specially if she is angry to you.

I have her facebook account. I take her passport with me. I put here ASAP back to her little city when I leave.

Cause I know you all want to fuck her horny ass even if she walks 10 meters before me.

To be honest it is not a nice time when I am in Holland and she on Mindanao.

So don't attack men with a horny pinay to hard.

I pay much much less than 30 k or 40 k that "all their girlfriends gets from their whites".

And she stays still with me now more than 2 years.

So slowly I think she really loves me.

Or maybe nobody likes my brown little lively funny girl.

You see, even after years you never know, so just enjoy the happy moments they give us.

P.S. I will never advice to marry quick if you don't know the culture.

And after 15 years coming in the Phil I really hate the culture.

The lies. Changing words. The keeping you out. Keeping you dumb. Charging you more.

I am always glad I can leave the country after 14 days holiday to see normal civilisation and good hot showers.

Ronald.