Manila

[SmallBuns]

Yamachu Spa.

Must try! They have an Entry + Massage deal for 850 and Entry + Massage + Scrub deal for 1200. I picked the latter. Its a Japanese-style spa and you undress completely in the sex-segregated wet area. I was a little skeptical of being naked around other men but it was no big deal. On the contrary, I found it particularly relaxing to be completely naked without any sexual angle. Makes you feel human again. They have a cold water pool (more like a big tub), a hot water pool, and another very hot water pool. There is a sauna and steam room and a room where they do the scrubs. The hot pools were actually really hot, and so were the sauna / steam. The scrub was strictly okay (barely 15 minutes) and was done by a guy in the mens' wet area. The massage was in the common massage room (you dress up in the shorts and shirt they give you) and was excellent. Probably the best massage I have had in the Philippines. They also have a smoking lounge and an excellent sleeping room with leather recliner. I laughed the previous night when a saleswoman told me that I could sleep in there because I didn't get the point of paying to sleep when I have a nice hotel room. But after the massage and before the second stint in the wet area, the sleep area was perfect. They give you a blanket and hot or cold tea for free, or you can order a drink. Strongly recommended place to relax. The mild irritant was that the masseuse, scrub fellow, and helpers all ask for a tip. I am happy to tip for good service (like the masseuse) but reject the "I am here so you have to tip me" mindset.

Abacca Massage.

Has been described before on the forum. I took the 80 min signature massage (1,200 pesos) and it was actually a good back massage followed by a light "prostate massage" - more like running fingers through my butt crack and touching the taint. And then on the flip you get a regular hand job. Overall it wasn't noteworthy but wasn't bad either. I like massage places where release is a part of the regimen and I really dislike places that make you wear those silly shorts! So, I might return for a good massage when I am in town next. Good reliable place for 1,200. Very clean, professional, and no tips expected.

Geisha Massage.

OK, I took one for the team! I did a lot of research but couldn't find a detailed review on Geisha Massage, or any of the other Nuru Nuru Massage places in Manila, on ISG, or other forums. I stopped by in the day time and was quoted 2,000 for the 90 min session. No masseuses were available and I was asked to come after 6 pm. Decided to check it out on my last night in Manila. Went there around 8:30 pm and was quoted 2,500 pesos. I insisted that online reviews say 2,000 and they agreed to the price. They confirmed that the actual massage time was 60 minutes, and the 90 minutes starts the minute you enter the room. The other 30 minutes are set aside for extras that you negotiate directly with the masseuse. I paid the money and picked a masseuse based on the photos on their website. Had to wait a few minutes before their service vehicle was available. Got into the service vehicle (AC running full blast. Nice) and Katrina joined me with the black bag with mattress cover and accessories. She started playing with her phone and gave short replies to my small talk questions. Ughhh! I had a sinking feeling. I tried to stay upbeat, smile, and engage her in a conversation. We drove a few minutes to a local love motel and waited until the driver paid for the room and gave us the keys. A staff member from the hotel took us to the room and gave us two small bottles of water. I drank the water - 10 pesos recovered!

Once in the room, she turned on the shower and laid the mattress cover on the bed. I offered to help but she refused. Then she asked me to undress and undressed herself too. She had a nice body with soft and slightly sagging boobs, regular butt, some extra fat on the tummy, and a hairy pussy. She washed me in a very mechanical and somewhat superficial manner. Right when she was washing junior, the fone rang and she walked out. She came back a few minutes later and the phone rang again! As I was drying off, she showered and gave me a dirty look when I tried to touch her boobs. She asked me to lie down on the mattress and turned off the AC before putting the towel on my back and giving me a horrible massage. She literally ran her fingers on me for the next 10 minutes. I am convinced that was a time-wasting tactic. Then she put the Nuru Gel on my back and legs and rubbed it over me for 10 minutes more. Finally, she used her breasts over my body. Starting with my back, bottom, legs, and the back. She used her hands to get Jr. Excited for a couple of minutes. On the flip, she again used her boobs on my legs and then belly and chest. She did not use her bottom or crotch at all. Which to me is the most fun part of a B2 B massage. While her boobs felt nice, I would have loved to feel the rest of her body. The total rubbing with boobs was certainly less than 10 minutes. Not to mention her phone rang twice during the "massage" and the bed creaked with every little move.

When an hour was up, she asked me if I wanted extras. She insisted that the massage is only 50 minutes and informed me that a HJ was 2,000 and "all the way" is 5,000 pesos. I refused and said I was ready to shower and leave. She lowered the HJ tip to 1,500 and I still said not interested. So she said that I still had to tip her and asked how much will I give her. I said I am not sure but I will tip her. She insisted on the figure and I finally told her 200 (10% of the 2,000 cost). She laughed and said it was too less and I pointed out that the actual massage is also too less. Besides I had paid 2,000 for her services. We went to the shower where she helped me a bit and then her phone rang. I took a nice long hot shower to get the gel off me and dressed up. She did the same and we had some small talk when she was dressing up. I asked her if she gets many customers and her answer was "no customers. " Well, I know why! She was pretty hairy and said that she doesn't like the gel touching her pussy and she is afraid it will get in! We walked back to the car and drove to the shop and I walked away without looking at her. This is certainly THE worst experience across my trips to the Philippines.

It seems to me that the 2,000 is pocketed by the spa and the girls are completely reliant on tips. So, they have little interest in the massage and just want to rush to collect money for extras and tips. The spas cover / excuse is "It depends on the girl. " Very unethical business! I would never return to this place, or other similar places in Manila. It would be nice to see an Abacca like Nuru Nuru place where you get the full 60 minutes of B2 B massage that ends in a decent HJ or more.

LA Cafe.

I am not into the bar pick-up and late-night scene. But I went, I saw, I conquered. Found a bar stool at the back to enjoy my SML and see what's going on. The SMLs are 90 before 8 pm and 130 after. I turned down a few smiles but couldn't get a 30 year old on the slightly heavy side to go away. She said that she was from Cebu and came here once every few months to make money. This trip was to arrange her papers to go back to Qatar to work. She actually showed me the papers later! I prefer younger and slim girls with A / be cups and was thirsting for one. But her attitude and charm won me over. Maybe her puffy nipples on extra firm see cups did and her insisting that she was perfectly smooth shaved and letting me stick a figure in to confirm. While still at LAC. I like semi-public play. I took her number and told her I will call her the next day. She left but came back 10 minutes later saying that I was the best fit for her in the room! LOL. She started at 4,000 for the night and we settled at 2,000 - two rounds at night and one in the morning. It was a friendly negotiation with my hands clutching her firm buttocks (I had pulled her panties up her crack already) and her hands on my chest under the polo shirt. She insisted on walking out and meeting me at the Shawarma place. Not sure why! I settled my tab and took another walk around the bar. I liked one other girl who smiled back at me. I quickly took her number and walked over to see my girl. There were 5-6 doable chicas there. We picked up more beer on our way. She insisted on buying from 7-11 rather than LAC because its cheaper there. I picked out condoms and she said no need, I have them. Fair enough (and I had some backups with me at the hotel) so I didn't buy them. I liked her frugal and caring attitude!

Once in the room, we had a nice shower together. She had her own Betadine antiseptic wash which she used on herself and me. She washed my dick, balls, and bottom at least three times. We started with her giving me a toe-curling BBBJ. She also sucked my balls (sometimes too hard) and licked my taint. She was ready to suck me to glory but I wanted to tap her pussy. She insisted on missionary and I gave her an intense 30+ minute pounding. She came 3+ times and used her fingers to rub her clit while I was pounding away. Her fingers hurt my belly a little but I was so turned on by her natural movements and thrusts. We lay for a couple of minutes before she dragged me back to the bathroom for another soaping and betadine wash! Then, she gave me a good 45 min massage while drinking her beer. She had worked at a regular massage parlor in Cebu earlier and was very good at it. At the end of the massage, I was ready to go for the second round. We went to sleep around 2 am after almost 3. 5 hours of fun. She took a sleeping pill before calling it a night and woke up 8 ish for another round of intense pounding where she came several times. We quickly showered and I put the money in her purse. She didn't count but thanked me and gave me a hug while I pulled her dress down to have one last view and suck her amazingly puffy nipples. As soon as we went to the lobby and stepped out, she jumped into a waiting cab and dashed off. The cab piece was a real surprise to me! Another sign that she was a semi-pro. I have her on WeChat and would love to connect in the future.

DIA.

This was the first time I could not pull a decent girl from DIA. In the past, I have pulled a 22 yr old Japanese-Filipino model and sex maniac who stayed with me for the entire time as well as several one or two night stands with 21 - 27 year olds. Last trip I hooked up with a gorgeous 23 yr old with the perfect be cups and incredibly tight pussy. Only cost me meals and attraction entrance fees while having an outstanding GFE experience. While I had been talking to past flames, they just stopped talking at some point and probably blocked me. I had a DIA girl meet me at the airport but she just didn't match her photos and had put on too much weight. We did a late night fuck and an excellent early morning BBBJ that she had learned from watching porn. She genuinely enjoyed sucking and playing with my dick. While she was interested in meeting again, I just didn't feel like it. I met three other women from DIA but they were looking for husbands and were very conservative with their sexuality. Also, it seemed like all their photos were photoshopped or misleading and they were much larger than their pics made you believe. I met one lady twice and we just couldn't communicate / she was too cold for my taste. So, DIA was a disappointment. I also felt that 1) the number of ladyboys had gone way down (welcome relief), and 2) the women in general were very serious and looking for husbands. I received one and only one p2 p offer on DIA for 4 K for ST which I turned down.

WeChat.

I received 8 WeChat friend requests in the Robinsons Malate vicinity and they were all professionals. They start with roundabout talk about how they need money and then ask if I want a massage and then slip in extras. The ask was generally very high or they were ladyboys. I would certainly explore this avenue further but meet in a public place first rather than inviting straight to the room. The Ladyboys were very pushy even after I told them I was not interested. One kept messaging me every few minutes as to why I didn't like ladyboys! I just had to delete her.

Robinsons Malate / Starbucks side.

Plenty of SWs and FLs around Starbucks and the street outside. Seemed like most had mamasans with them. The going price was 2 k for short time and 4 k for overnight but I am sure it can be negotiated down. There were a few 6/7's but most of them were 2/3's. I did not partake.

[D Cups]

I guess it is all relative. In the US, 2/3 girls are overweight with 1/3 of those overweights being obese.

The remaining 1/3 is already married.

Most of the the married ones are also overweight and many are obese from what I have seen. Very few slim ones. It's lard-ass central.

[Rick Rock]

I guess it is all relative. In the US, 2/3 girls are overweight with 1/3 of those overweights being obese.

The remaining 1/3 is already married.

Yea but I don't live there, and I certainly wouldn't go there to pay for sex.

[Turgid]

............ After all I have said about the lack of condom use, she insisted on using one. I tried every trick in the book to get out of it.................

Who says hooking is not a dangerous occupation.

[SaltyPete]

"The Philippines faces an obesity and overweight prevalence of 5. 1 percent and 23.6 percent" http://manilastandard.net/news/natio...evalence-.html.

One out of four is pretty damn high!

I guess it is all relative. In the US, 2/3 girls are overweight with 1/3 of those overweights being obese.

The remaining 1/3 is already married.

[Rick Rock]

Or maybe the "improving" Philippine economy has kept many of the "better" ones off the market. Obesity and motherhood are not new to the Philippines, so perhaps they're merely symptoms of a changing market rather than the cause of its decline.

I don't think it has improved much at all. Looks worse than ever to me, even if they did manage to kill thousand of so-called undesirables.

I'll believe the economy improved when taxis use the meter and some of the 1/10 of the country's population that ran overseas for greener pastures goes home.

More likely the reasons I stated.

". large number of obese persons in the country—18 million Filipinos are obese and overweight. The Philippines remains very much focused on battling its long-standing problem of malnutrition, while at the same time bearing the burden of increasing rates of obesity. " https://businessmirror.com.ph/obese-...ow-ballooning/.

"The Philippines faces an obesity and overweight prevalence of 5. 1 percent and 23.6 percent" http://manilastandard.net/news/natio...evalence-.html.

One out of four is pretty damn high!

"While teen pregnancy rates in most countries are declining, the numbers are rising in the Philippines. According to reports, about 500 Filipino teenagers become mothers every day. That's about 182,500 teenage mothers every year. . One in five teenage girls in Palawan is pregnant or already has a child. " https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/fe...080457459.html.

[Soapy Smith]

Unfortunately I think "the better ones" are just becoming very rare period: online, in person, or anywhere. Obesity and motherhood have taken a very serious toll on the prostitution poll in the PI over the last 5 years.

Or maybe the "improving" Philippine economy has kept many of the "better" ones off the market. Obesity and motherhood are not new to the Philippines, so perhaps they're merely symptoms of a changing market rather than the cause of its decline.

[Free2]

Red Kilt. Sorry that the smokey haze in LAC doesn't agree with you, but the new laws are a real pain. Not being able to smoke hardly anywhere now. LAC is the only place so far I have come across where you can smoke with a cold one. Somebody told me you can get a ticket for smoking while just walking down the street. What has happened to our beloved Phils where everything goes??

Dg8787 - Nothing wrong with slanty eyes except when the husband asks why!!

Goons. You got balls of STEEL man! I have always stuck to the short time hotels along Rizal and thought that was risky enough. Going back to unknown area, wow, glad you got out alive.

Goferring. It was good to meet you. You are a decent bloke and my first ISGer to meet in person. We barhopped along Burgos and despite Goferring saying he is somewhat of a lightweight, he outlasted me. We found the best bar of the night was XOXO. Really hopping with fun girls. I never barfined anybody, choosing rather the cheaper option with a SW whom I negotiated down to 1000. She must have weighed only about 80 lbs. After the deed at the hotel back in Malate, she said she was going back for another customer because she needs 2000. So sorry about the sloppy seconds whoever you are. See pic in Photo Gallery.

Backing up a bit, I landed at midnight, got to the hotel, walked to LAC, mightily contributed to the smokey haze for a short time, picked out a girl, taxi back to hotel and she was gone. All of this in about 2 hours from touchdown! I just had to get my first notch of the trip out of the way. Overpaid (2500) for ST but she was very pretty and nice body. After all I have said about the lack of condom use, she insisted on using one. I tried every trick in the book to get out of it, but went ahead just to get it over with. I put it just on the tip and hoped it would come off while going doggy style but it stayed on.

Yesterday I met a new Facebook contact that I connected with and started chatting with 1 week prior to the trip. She came to SM mall (2 hrs by transpo, what a GOOD girl) and didn't ask me for shit prior which is always a good sign. We ate at Padi's Point and she drank 3 x SM Apples (3% Nice lay back at the hotel, very short 4'-9" and 40 kg, 19 years old. Love those tiny little bodies. Has 2 kids but very little evidence of it. The eldest is 5 years old (got preggy at 14? She laughed and said yes) and the youngest is 2 but her dad took it away from her (didn't get the story). Really nice girl, clean, never asked for anything, the typical very shy with the white guy attitude which was very boring at first. Then we went to the casino / bar where there was a live band and after 2 x long island iced teas, she was more herself. Cute as a button, even with her schoolgirl glasses on. Kept me warm all night with a repeat in the AM, despite the hangover lingering. We enjoyed the hotel free breakfast buffet and then I kicked her out. I love seeing these girls eat up healthily at the hotel buffets and not stuffing themselves with cheap rice. Probably the best meal they will have for a long time.

[Rick Rock]

Yes, I was quite disappointed when I was there in December, too. Have all the better ones transferred to social media?

Unfortunately I think "the better ones" are just becoming very rare period: online, in person, or anywhere. Obesity and motherhood have taken a very serious toll on the prostitution poll in the PI over the last 5 years.

[Turgid]

.............. my first day I knocked a pedicab driver silly for lunging at me...................

You certainly live up to your nom de plume.

[Goons]

Thanks to those who gave input on my SW query around Carriedo. I've stayed in the Philippines before for several months at a time and had some good times with streetwalkers in Cebu, I thought it would be something to check out while in in town. I've had a wacky few days in Manila, my first day I knocked a pedicab driver silly for lunging at me, witnessed by a cop and other pedestrians near Robinsons. I had to pick him up off the street and move him to the side to keep him from walking back into traffic. The cop just motioned for me to carry on and leave him so I got out of there as quickly as I could. I looked over as I was walking away and saw the cop standing over him saying something, he did not look too concerned. My first stop was LA, early evening and as expected, I did not really dig the vibe in there so I sat around for a few minutes pretending to read the menu and left.

I had a quick beer at a 711 and wandered around the area a bit before heading out to Carriedo area and the nearby Rizal and Recto streets to check out SW action.

The first one I found outside Kamagong Hotel, close to the LRT exit, was chubby, petite with good legs, not a bad looker with long black hair but clearly with a bit of a gut. She had a mamasan, I negotiated 400 from 500 and had to follow her through some nearby alleys into a local neighborhood with small st guesthouse. It was a shitty room with no ac, the type people use for sex or to do drugs in. Mattress was uncovered vinyl type cushion, wooden door with latch lock and very dim light hanging from a wire on the ceiling. I paid 150 for the room, the woman out front gave us a key and some folded tissues. There was a separate toilet that had no light.

Despite being well lit, I was a bit worried about the neighborhood and how deep it was from the main thoroughfare, I had taken all the precautions before this trip to pack anything too expensive, clothes, sandals, packed an older camera body and lens combo but on the morning of my flight I had absent mindedly put on my breitling with a rubber strap, similar in feel to the Garmin watch I had bought and charged the day before. I thought about leaving it in the room safe but decided to just wear it, moving it to my belt loop when going to shifty places like this.

Right as we were getting started, there was a knock on the door, mamasan had followed us and demanded a tip of 50 pesos. I relented a bit but didn't feel like making a thing of it, so I gave it to her and told her to go away. At this point I had opened my folding knife I carry with me and put it down on the little table and covered it with a handkerchief ready in case something popped off.

I was charged another 50 for the condom by the girl, her attitude had changed and she was hurrying me and swore a lot. She was quite tight and despite not taking her top off, I was sufficiently turned on. Probably better that she kept it on as I am not a fan of girls with flabby stomachs. Anyway, the heat and the whole situation just made it hard to cum. Add to that after about 3 minutes she kept hurrying me even more and complained when I asked for a position change, we argued a bit before resuming but not without her continuing to swear and try to rush me. After about 8 minutes, I still could not cum she complained again and started to get up. I'd had enough at this point and didn't really care so I got up as well, unsheathed and threw the 50 peso condom at her before she was able to pull her skirt down and get out. It took me a while to get my shorts on and make sure I had all my shit with me, by the time I got to the exit she was there talking to two guys. I had my knife out, holding it under my shirt so it was not so obvious. Thankfully I passed them without anything happening, navigated my way out of the neighborhood and found the main street to get the fuck out of there.

I usually try to find SW action when I visit a place but this was quite a shitty experience, not at all like the ones in Cebu 15 years ago. I did have a slightly better one a week later when I found myself in the area after visiting Binondo. On the corner of Recto and Rizal, near the Mcdonald's, another chubby girl, made a strong pitch, talking about good sex and putting her hands on me right there on the street. No other options at the time so I bit. This time we went to a short time hotel near the main roads. Paid 200 pesos for two hours, the room was not much better but it had an AC and bed covers (torn and not fully on covering the bed). I had negotiated 500 for two rounds but did not really expect her to keep to it. Like the first one her attitude changed when we got on the room, wanted to hurry but she did not swear as much and made some jokes in between. I made the mistake of asking her if she was high right in the middle of fucking. She immediately stopped me and got up, turned on the light which she had demanded to turn off at the start and ask if I had any meth on saying she would blow me and do all sorts of stuff if we could use. She asked me three or four times to show her if I had any on me. I made it clear I had none and was only there to fuck so she turned off the light disappointed and let me finish. She tried to get me to go in with her to buy some meth afterwards, talking all sorts of shit about good stuff available nearby and all that plus extra sex and how she didn't charge me 50 for the condom etc.

Not great experiences but I had to try. Not a whole lot of options that I saw on the three or four days I went by, mostly chubby girls, late 20's and up, sometimes I passed by the area and there was nobody available. Maybe my timing was off or maybe action there is not as good as it once was.

I went back to LA during my stay and had some wechat and a tinder girl which I'll write about next.

[D Cups]

LAC is my bar of last resort. I haven't been there in a few years, but I'd almost rather spend the evening alone, catching up on sleep. I hope the beer was cold, at least.

Yes, I was quite disappointed when I was there in December, too. Have all the better ones transferred to social media?

[SaltyPete]

I had business in Malate today so I took the opportunity to check out LAC at around 2 pm.

I know all about how it is best to go at night time etc etc but some guys are interested in day-time activity.

Place was packed for a Tuesday, and women outnumbered guys by at least 3 to 1.

Unfortunately, smoking is allowed in the cafe and so there was a blue haze over everything.

I did a quick lap, mentally calculating the average score across the female clientele as between 3 and 4 (and I am not terribly choosy).

The mathematicians amongst you know that an average of 3 to 4 means there were probably some 5's and 6's around but they were balanced by the 1's or 2's.

I decided to sit down and have a beer and see if anything changed, as I thought it couldn't possibly get worse.

I was wrong. Within 5 minutes I watched a few of the 6's leave and the average plummeted to 3.

I fled, coughing and wheezing from the smoke and left a half-filled beer.

That's probably my 2019 LAC visit under my belt.

LAC is my bar of last resort. I haven't been there in a few years, but I'd almost rather spend the evening alone, catching up on sleep. I hope the beer was cold, at least.

[Red Kilt]

I had business in Malate today so I took the opportunity to check out LAC at around 2 pm.

I know all about how it is best to go at night time etc etc but some guys are interested in day-time activity.

Place was packed for a Tuesday, and women outnumbered guys by at least 3 to 1.

Unfortunately, smoking is allowed in the cafe and so there was a blue haze over everything.

I did a quick lap, mentally calculating the average score across the female clientele as between 3 and 4 (and I am not terribly choosy).

The mathematicians amongst you know that an average of 3 to 4 means there were probably some 5's and 6's around but they were balanced by the 1's or 2's.

I decided to sit down and have a beer and see if anything changed, as I thought it couldn't possibly get worse.

I was wrong. Within 5 minutes I watched a few of the 6's leave and the average plummeted to 3.

I fled, coughing and wheezing from the smoke and left a half-filled beer.

That's probably my 2019 LAC visit under my belt.

[Albert9989]

Hi, I am the one you say my brain has taken vacation, cf Angeles thread, 😊, and now I am in the middle of my trip which is going very very fine.

First i met the 27 yo girl I was chatting with since may be 3 years, in Makati, Durban hotel. 1 st time I was in burgos, I don't think I am the guy for these sex marathons we can have there, even if I agree that, sitting at Durban terrace, I saw plenty of girls walking in this small Durban st, some of them looking so cute, I agree there are beauties here. Or lbs..... Difficult to know, but there a great topic on that....

Si i met the chat girl on morning, and even if I knew she was petite, what a surprise, something like 1. 4 m around, that's very small, and so cute! Very slim, but well proportioned, nice small breasts firm and round, but yes, petite, head arriving just on top of my stomach! I didn't knew there can be so cute and petite girls, I knew her from video chats, but difficult to realize the real size. We had a great session during 3 hours all sweet and calm, she moves softly and that's a strange feeling having that small body all over you. Even for sex she was obviously very thin but agreed to, and made efforts to enter my thing very slowly and smoothly, Hmmm. Cummed outside but was so great.

Will meet her again on next 21 for 4 days again still Durban hotel.

Next post to come in cebu thread about my other appointment in iloilo.