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  1. #43616
    Quote Originally Posted by PatrickTravels  [View Original Post]
    Been to BKK about a dozen times over the last 20 years. Here are a few notes from a recent trip.
    Thanks for the eye opening report.

    $120 for a few minutes with a stink mouth prostitute who won't even blow you with a rubber.

    More than that for an old lady with baby damage to work you over with a dildo.

    Sad and depressing stuff. Especially when you realize there are clubs in the same city filled with university students who fuck and suck for 1500 Baht, yes even during the day. It is really night and day the difference in Thailand between stuff meant for locals and foreigners. I guess this will go on as long as foreigners continue to pay. I just wonder what the ceiling to it all is. If they get even fatter, start charging 20,000, and only let you look at their feet and jack off, will guys still line up for it??

  2. #43615
    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    Spasso's demographic is definitely tilted towards older pricier girls
    Older AND pricier would be an oxymoron for local Thai guys. Should be one or the other. But tourists and business guys from other countries love this kind of stuff for some reason. If I live to be 100 I will probably never understand it. Especially since study after study shows that men are interested in 20 year olds even when they're 80 years old. https://startsat60.com/discover/life...-younger-women.

  3. #43614

    Milking tables at Analisa

    By the way, this is what a milking table at Analisa looks like.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tommylove  [View Original Post]
    I used Google maps to guide me to the Analisa spa, but it took me to the wrong one! It turns out there's one near Asoke station and another near Nana station. I was tempted to stay, because there were several cuties, but the mamasan said they couldn't accept me if I had an appointment at the other place. They can't poach each other's clients! She texted that I'the be late, and since it was rush hour I hoofed it over, instead of getting a taxi and then stuck in traffic.

    Walking in, the guy before me was asking about a bareback blowjob option, after the mamasan said it was covered. She replied that a 200 baht tip usually worked for a BBBJ upgrade, depending on the gal. When it was my turn, the mamasan said, "I recognize you, you've been here twice before, right?" I told her that her memory was remarkable. Since I was short of time, I selected a one hour "tantric" four hand, with nuru and PM on a milking table. This cost 3000 baht. I selected the handjob not only because of my GF, but because the blowjob looked pretty uncomfortable for a girl using a milking table. Okay for a quick teaser but not for the CIM. I wanted to say that I only got a handjob truthfully. I did ask for the infamous three hole girl Coy, but she's apparently "on vacation". The mamasan assigned two girls. Zara, a sweet 28 year old with soft comfy curves and Namtan, a 25 year old hottie with a hard body. Zara had really nice tits and ass, and Namtan was absolutely strapping, an athletic beauty, who was clearly the top girl there. In the pics below, Namtan is first and Zara is second.

    In the room upstairs, after a quick shower, Namtan asked one question to design choreograph the session, "one pop or two?" I replied, "One is fine for me. " She nodded and away they went. They started with a vigorous leg massage one on each leg, mirroring each other, then moved up to the back. They were topless at this point. They slowly got naked when they transitioned to one doing nuru above me, while the other did a manual stimulation below. This got me really hard. And after about 5 minutes, they switched places. After another 5 minutes, they had me flip over. All during this time, they chatted with me in English and with each other in Thai. Eventually, they had me flip over, so one could nuru on me while her counterpart did a handjob, eventually Namtan added a PM, which was pretty good. Again, she asked a question while fingering my anus, before starting, "One finger or two?" I replied, "Please start with one. " Her PM work was exquisite, quite skilled.

    After the introduction of PM, they had me flip again, to utilize the milking table with Namtan doing PM above and Zara doing HJ below. Man, it felt really nice! Eventually they switched to doggy PM with Namtan slapping my butt while switching to two fingers, while I was on all fours and Zara was on the side doing a really good handjob. But I couldn't cum because the PM was "over stimulating" me. Eventually, I flipped back over again, with Zara on top doing nuru and hugging and kissing me, while I fingered her ass and wet pussy. I really wanted to fuck them, but I am a good boy. Haha.

    Namtan's stroke was a bit too fast so I had them switch to Namtan doing nuru on me. Man she's a hard body. And Zara doing a slower paced handjob and that's how I popped. Namtan's little rockhard butt turned me on. I mean really turned me on and she was licking my ear sensuously. And Zara's superior handjob style. Very slow and soft. Felt just right and I soon felt the climax coming. I came very hard!

    Afterwards, Namtan left and Zara gave me a very slow and thorough shower, chatting sweetly and letting me know she liked me. I was really tempted to come back and fuck her, and expressed my delight with a 500 baht tip for the two of them. In the reception area, while putting on my shoes, the mamasan apologized that she had to leave for dinner but that Zara would keep me company. Zara chirped, with an easy and genuine smile, that she liked my company. She was probably angling for a replay, or to land a rich farang boyfriend, but. Whatev's. She made me happy and she's exactly the kind of girl I'd want for a GF, so I stuck around and flirted for a while.
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  4. #43613

    Tantric Four Hands at Analisa

    My GF and I had a 10 hour layover in Bangkok, so I decided to go get some sex and then meet up with my GF for dinner at Gaggan. She's open minded and said she wanted to do some shopping and realized that I needed to let off some steam. She added with a smile, "handjob only!" When the Airport Link / BTS dropped me near Nana, I used Google maps to guide me to the Analisa spa, but it took me to the wrong one! It turns out there's one near Asoke station and another near Nana station. I was tempted to stay, because there were several cuties, but the mamasan said they couldn't accept me if I had an appointment at the other place. They can't poach each other's clients! She texted that I'the be late, and since it was rush hour I hoofed it over, instead of getting a taxi and then stuck in traffic.

    Walking in, the guy before me was asking about a bareback blowjob option, after the mamasan said it was covered. She replied that a 200 baht tip usually worked for a BBBJ upgrade, depending on the gal. When it was my turn, the mamasan said, "I recognize you, you've been here twice before, right?" I told her that her memory was remarkable. Since I was short of time, I selected a one hour "tantric" four hand, with nuru and PM on a milking table. This cost 3000 baht. I selected the handjob not only because of my GF, but because the blowjob looked pretty uncomfortable for a girl using a milking table. Okay for a quick teaser but not for the CIM. I wanted to say that I only got a handjob truthfully. I did ask for the infamous three hole girl Coy, but she's apparently "on vacation". The mamasan assigned two girls. Zara, a sweet 28 year old with soft comfy curves and Namtan, a 25 year old hottie with a hard body. Zara had really nice tits and ass, and Namtan was absolutely strapping, an athletic beauty, who was clearly the top girl there. In the pics below, Namtan is first and Zara is second.

    In the room upstairs, after a quick shower, Namtan asked one question to design choreograph the session, "one pop or two?" I replied, "One is fine for me. " She nodded and away they went. They started with a vigorous leg massage one on each leg, mirroring each other, then moved up to the back. They were topless at this point. They slowly got naked when they transitioned to one doing nuru above me, while the other did a manual stimulation below. This got me really hard. And after about 5 minutes, they switched places. After another 5 minutes, they had me flip over. All during this time, they chatted with me in English and with each other in Thai. Eventually, they had me flip over, so one could nuru on me while her counterpart did a handjob, eventually Namtan added a PM, which was pretty good. Again, she asked a question while fingering my anus, before starting, "One finger or two?" I replied, "Please start with one. " Her PM work was exquisite, quite skilled.

    After the introduction of PM, they had me flip again, to utilize the milking table with Namtan doing PM above and Zara doing HJ below. Man, it felt really nice! Eventually they switched to doggy PM with Namtan slapping my butt while switching to two fingers, while I was on all fours and Zara was on the side doing a really good handjob. But I couldn't cum because the PM was "over stimulating" me. Eventually, I flipped back over again, with Zara on top doing nuru and hugging and kissing me, while I fingered her ass and wet pussy. I really wanted to fuck them, but I am a good boy. Haha.

    Namtan's stroke was a bit too fast so I had them switch to Namtan doing nuru on me. Man she's a hard body. And Zara doing a slower paced handjob and that's how I popped. Namtan's little rockhard butt turned me on. I mean really turned me on and she was licking my ear sensuously. And Zara's superior handjob style. Very slow and soft. Felt just right and I soon felt the climax coming. I came very hard!

    Afterwards, Namtan left and Zara gave me a very slow and thorough shower, chatting sweetly and letting me know she liked me. I was really tempted to come back and fuck her, and expressed my delight with a 500 baht tip for the two of them. In the reception area, while putting on my shoes, the mamasan apologized that she had to leave for dinner but that Zara would keep me company. Zara chirped, with an easy and genuine smile, that she liked my company. She was probably angling for a replay, or to land a rich farang boyfriend, but. Whatev's. She made me happy and she's exactly the kind of girl I'd want for a GF, so I stuck around and flirted for a while.

    Originally, I had wanted to also go to [CodeWord901]'s blowjob bar for a second pop, but I was not only out of time not just because of the flirting but they went overtime for me. But now I was late for dinner, so I hailed a tuktuk, who drove like a madman to get me to dinner on time. My GF was also terribly late, and took a scooter taxi to get there. We arrived at exactly the same time!

    By the way, this dinner at Gaggan was a $500 tasting menu for two. It's a Michelin two star that has won best restaurant in Asia a number of times. Amazing food, 25 dishes described by an emoji only dinner. The funnest dish was called "Lick it up 👅" and they played the song by Kiss at table with portable speaker, as they served the dish, which was eaten by licking the plate. The most surprising was the chili egg. A synthetic egg filled with chili infused sauces, sitting on a crunchy "nest", that exploded into indescribably delicious flavors your mouth. The absolute most delicious was the lamb chop perfectly prepared in a 140° oil cooker for 4 hours, flavored with lemongrass and pepper. It was a perfect way to end the evening before heading back to BKK for the flight home.
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  5. #43612

    2 cents worth for Spasso

    Quote Originally Posted by Kumbu  [View Original Post]
    Fair enough, Natty. What I meant by unreliable was not about the bedroom activities. There, I would agree with you, that the maturity of the lady definitely does make a difference. What I meant was that I always struggled to get a reliable bead on the lady until much later in the process. Perhaps this is because the ladies are so much more accomplished at their skill, and so they play the game better. Thinking about this more, I agree with you that "unreliable" is not the right word. Maybe unpredictable? Not sure, but let me qualify what might be obvious to you regular readers: you have not read any of my posts for a while, which means I have not partaken in Spasso talent for several years now, so my impression may well be off. I defer to Natty Bumpo (and others) on this, and apologies if I (inadvertently) gave the impression of being up to date on the ladies of Spasso.
    Interesting to read. Our game is always filled with hits and misses. I have taken girls from Spasso and on average not found it to be a miss if you are upfront and clear about expectations. Does not guarantee a hit but my most recent experience there was a hit. The woman was older (late 20's to early 30's) but she looked hot and was a performer. I am not shy to ask what is in and out for the prices quoted so there is no confusion when it is time to supply services. She was exactly what she said she would be. Attentive, slow, very passionate and a pleasure to spend time with. No doubt that she could use her body and knew how to please a man. I would repeat again but there are so many others that it is not necessary. Mixx is the same. Have had a lot of good hits there if the rules are negotiated along with the price. When Insomnia was going I had more missed than hits there. Just a different type of FL at that place and not as easy to get to deal with. Just my experience. Did score a few good FLs there though over the years.

    Still it is what makes the hunting worthwhile. Never really know what you are going to get. I will be back in BKK late February and will try Spasso again. Of course will post the experience. It form part of a trip to Pattaya again so looking forward to time in the sun and bars. Cannot wait.

    Happy hunting.

  6. #43611
    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    Spasso's demographic is definitely tilted towards older pricier girls than the other clubs you mentioned and in comparison to a 3-star hotel FL pick up bar like Thermae, but I disagree with you on the reliable part.
    Fair enough, Natty. What I meant by unreliable was not about the bedroom activities. There, I would agree with you, that the maturity of the lady definitely does make a difference. What I meant was that I always struggled to get a reliable bead on the lady until much later in the process. Perhaps this is because the ladies are so much more accomplished at their skill, and so they play the game better. Thinking about this more, I agree with you that "unreliable" is not the right word. Maybe unpredictable? Not sure, but let me qualify what might be obvious to you regular readers: you have not read any of my posts for a while, which means I have not partaken in Spasso talent for several years now, so my impression may well be off. I defer to Natty Bumpo (and others) on this, and apologies if I (inadvertently) gave the impression of being up to date on the ladies of Spasso.

  7. #43610
    Quote Originally Posted by Kumbu  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for that report, and I'm sorry for your bad experience. This girl sounds far too sketchy. Too much going on, but I suppose everything is crystal clear in hindsight.

    Spasso, in my opinion, is filled with older pricier ladies. And they tend to be less reliable than in many other places. I wonder, did you try any of the other nightclubs? Have you tried Insanity or Levels or Sugar Club (or places like that)? Any updates on how these venues (or any other venues) are would be most appreciated.
    Spasso's demographic is definitely tilted towards older pricier girls than the other clubs you mentioned and in comparison to a 3-star hotel FL pick up bar like Thermae, but I disagree with you on the reliable part. Over many years, I have found Spasso FL's to be very accommodating and GFE. I almost think they are consciously trying to compensate for the fact that they are getting on in years and most are in their late 30's and older. They dress better, exercise more attention to their makeup and hair, speak better English, and generally really try their best to make the customer feel pampered and taken care of.

    Age is the big negative for me in Spasso. If only the Spasso FL's were younger, even just a tad under 30, I would frequent the place a lot more often than I do.

    It is too bad about SexIsLove's experience. But personally, I never understand why a punter takes a girl barhopping and nightclubbing after he has made his selection. I always want to shag the girl right away. Delaying the main event can lead to trouble.

    Quote Originally Posted by SexIsLove  [View Original Post]
    So we went to sing sing and then later met up with her friend and fiance at a bar in nana somewhere. By this time I was thinking she is good & just relaxed off my guard. Eventually made our way back to my hotel at which point she began insisting on getting paid first. Normally I keep my composure & work something out in such rare cases but I guess I just lost it a bit & it was already early morning next day so I just through the money at her. She started giving me some stupid lecture on how a lady should be paid & stuff. I just ignored her till she left soon after. .
    The other thing I don't quite understand from his report is why he threw the money at the girl. Either stick to your guns ie payment afterwards or show her the door. Period! But if you are going to cave, do it nicely. It is always your choice. The girl is not holding a gun to your head. 555.

  8. #43609
    Quote Originally Posted by SexIsLove  [View Original Post]
    Towards the end of last month had a bad experience. Guess my fault for becoming too trusting and letting my guard down. It was nearing midnight and I was actually heading to Mixx but on a whim decided to stop over at Spasso to get a drink & check out the scene there. I was at the bar & this tall girl from Chiang Mai came and asked the bar for her bottle of whisky (makers mark previously opened I think). She told me I can help myself to it! Later on she wanted to dance with me and generally seemed a fun type. At some point it was indicated that 5 k baht would be enough to compensate her for the night. So we went to sing sing and then later met up with her friend and fiance at a bar in nana somewhere. By this time I was thinking she is good & just relaxed off my guard. Eventually made our way back to my hotel at which point she began insisting on getting paid first. Normally I keep my composure & work something out in such rare cases but I guess I just lost it a bit & it was already early morning next day so I just through the money at her. She started giving me some stupid lecture on how a lady should be paid & stuff. I just ignored her till she left soon after. Mongering for over 30 years on and off but always something to learn I guess.
    Thanks for that report, and I'm sorry for your bad experience. This girl sounds far too sketchy. Too much going on, but I suppose everything is crystal clear in hindsight.

    Spasso, in my opinion, is filled with older pricier ladies. And they tend to be less reliable than in many other places. I wonder, did you try any of the other nightclubs? Have you tried Insanity or Levels or Sugar Club (or places like that)? Any updates on how these venues (or any other venues) are would be most appreciated.

  9. #43608

    Recent trip to BKK.

    Been to BKK about a dozen times over the last 20 years. Here are a few notes from a recent trip.

    Eden Club: Chose Pim with big toothy smile. She offered the most eye contact. Usually a good sign. She also was reasonably attractive, which can be rare at Eden Club. She spoke adequate English and had mild belly baby damage. As usual at Eden Club, I picked one girl, then she picks her partner. Pim chose Mint as her partner. Mint was actually much more attractive and seemed younger with nice all natural breasts. I would have picked Mint first, since I think she was the youngest and most attractive girl there, but she didn't look at me at all, which I took as a bad sign. Mint was on rimming duty, prostate massage with fingers, anal dildo, and spoke almost no English. If you like this sort of thing (non stop action with one girl giving you a BBBJ / CIM while the other is rimming you and fingering your prostate), it is a great experience. You don't need to ask or beg for back door attention. It just happens. You will want Viagra to reduce your refractory period or you won't get your money's worth. My record at Eden Club is 5 shots in 90 minutes. I was completely depleted and fully satisfied. Money well spent.

    Analisa: I just got the next girl in the rotation, who turned out to be one of the most attractive. Sorry I didn't catch her name. Signed up for the body to body, prostate massage, and strap on for 1 hour. I asked if 90 minutes equals two shots. The answer is no, so I didn't bother. The whole experience was very good. Very classic erotic massage. No kissing and the experience was mostly about her touching me rather than the reverse. They do offer full service. Given the style of the service (which seems a little professional / impersonal like a regular massage), it might feel strange to switch to full service mode. Or maybe not.

    Billboard: "Pinky", dark straight hair with almost Indian features, from Koh Samui, excellent English, I think she was number 332, all natural great body, great skin, pleasantly chatty, BBBJ, DATY, no real kissing, 700 BF, 3000ST. I would consider repeating with her. The only negative was the lack of kissing.

    Butterflies: "Aye", I think she was number 227, very smiley, lots of eye contact while on stage, was topless in the jacuzzi area, has a half finished sketch of a large tattoo on her back with bleached / dyed orangish hair, has adequate English, open to kissing but significant halitosis, denied BJ even covered, claims she doesn't like DATY, boom boom only, pretty disappointing. I thought the fact that she was one of the topless girls would mean that she would be more uninhibited, but I was totally wrong. Yes, I realize I could have negotiated details, but I find that really limits the GFE spontaneity. 1000 BF, 3000ST.

    For newbies, here's my BKK summary:

    Go to erotic massage places during the day and lower your expectations for looks but expect / demand excellent service. If you love prostate massage and strap on action, Eden Club (low to mid quality optics but unlimited shots) and Analisa (better optics but one shot) specialize in that. If that's not of interest, then I wouldn't bother with either of them, I'the go to Snow White or Tulip instead.

    In the evenings, go to the gogo bars and search for your favorite eye candy. The service will be disappointing, so make sure you really are gobsmacked by her looks, otherwise don't bother bar fining her.

    In a nutshell: Expect plain Jane 30 year olds with great service during the day, and beautiful 20 year olds with mediocre service at night.

  10. #43607
    Quote Originally Posted by Fasbiranwar1  [View Original Post]
    Do anyone ever encounter any Pakistani or Indian Free Lancer in Bangkok Or any where in Thailand.
    There was an Indian FL on Pattaya Beach Rd recently. She seemed to be the only Indian there. Drove a hard bargain too. I couldn't get her below 1000 baht for ST. I eventually relented and paid up. It was nice to get some big tits for a change after the mostly tiny up top Thais I had been having. She is probably still there as I had seen her around quite a bit in the last several months. She hangs around the Soi 13 area on Beach Rd, Pattaya.

  11. #43606
    Quote Originally Posted by Hotman666  [View Original Post]
    Same question asked every few weeks or so. Obviously by people who can not be bothered or are MUCH to important or busy to RTFF.
    With respect, I've lived here for some 20 years and the mix race types you refer who are available for P4P if they exist at all are far and few between.

    To suggest you RTFF or go seek and you will find is less then helpful.

    Can you be more specific?

    Where did you meet these girls, under what circumstances, what were the payment details etc would be a lot more informative and helpful.

  12. #43605
    Quote Originally Posted by Fasbiranwar1  [View Original Post]
    Hello everyone,

    Do anyone ever encounter any Pakistani or Indian Free Lancer in Bangkok Or any where in Thailand.
    Same question asked every few weeks or so. Obviously by people who can not be bothered or are MUCH to important or busy to RTFF.

    Here is my reply to one of these posts from 2016 quoting a 2011 question (In 2019 the answer STILL remains the same!)
    ============================================

    "This question seems to be asked quite regularly. The answer seems to to always be the same. NO Indian girls but a lot of acceptable alternatives.

    I posted the following in 2011 in answer to a similar question.

    Over the years I have had the pleasure of having several Half Thai / half Indian (and Half Thai / Half Pakistani) girls as playmates in LOS! I rather like that look!

    If you stop to think about it there are many Indians living in Thailand, some for many years, and (nowdays) quite a lot of Indian visitors. So it is not 'so' unusual to expect to find this, often rather beautiful, mix.

    The ones I have known have told me that 'Moma from Thai. Pappa from India! ' Several have had Indian rather than Thai 'given names. '.

    A couple of years ago there were a pair of Half Thai / Half Pakistani sisters working in one of the Pattaya go-go's. VERY nice indeed! However I have not seen them around during my last few trips.

    In my experience there is not one 'special place' for these girls but it IS possible to find all sorts of ethnic mixes in Thailand.

    I can remember a Thai / Scandinavian, a Thai / German, a Thai / Black American (WOW, she was HOT!) and several Thai / Chinese girls that I have been with over the years.

    Just get out there and look. You may not find EXACTLY what you are looking for but I would be rather surprised if you are unable to find 'something' acceptable.

    ENJOY.

    (I do!

    Hotman.

  13. #43604

    Cialis pricing on Sukhumvit.

    So I spent part of the afternoon walking up and down lower Sukhumvit asking for prices for Cialis at pharmacies.

    The highest price I found was Southeast Pharmacy, which had only the original branded Cialis for 4500 be for 4 tablets of 5 MG.

    The lowest price I found was JS Pharmacy on Soi 11 (on the right hand side as you are walking from Sukhumvit). It is located right next to the Ambassador Hotel. They had generic "Apcalis" from India for 600 be for 4 tablets of 20 MG. I bought a pill cutter from them for 120 be so that I can cut the pills into 5 MG pieces. That works out to about $1 for 5 MG.

    Seemed reasonable to me and not worth the trip over to Chulq Phesaj pharmacy to find something even cheaper.

  14. #43603
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for tHe great two posts. The first with your subtle qualification questions would be really helpful to someone with the time to pursue this approach. And of course recounting the indoctrination of a fresher is what many ISGErs live for. Good stuff!
    Hey, thanks for the props, Steve. You know, I sometimes think about posting and inviting others to post some of those subtle qualification questions for punters, me included, who are not really that comfortable just blurting out things like, "Let's fuck. No condom!" or "Are you shaved or hairy down there?" Bear in mind, that approach CAN and does work for many. But I am usually into relaxing with a girl, sitting next to her over a ladydrink or two (in the case of pros), touching her hands and so on just to see if I get a chubby from being close to her before and rather than quickly deciding to take her solely on her looks alone. I am not a man who gets a chubby or full on erection merely over the sight of a beautiful girl nor is it a given that I will get one with such a girl when we are alone in the room. I need to feel something else about her rather than that she is really pretty and, therefore, I ought to be getting hard for her on a dime. Not really.

    So, when a girl I have just met on Line and who I will probably meet soon says she is going to take a shower, I immediately respond with a cute way of "requesting" that she "shave and shower? Please."(cute pleading sticker). If she reacts badly to that little exchange, I have just saved myself some needless chatter and a waste of my time meeting her. Most of the time the reaction is very positive.

    On that same subject, when a girl sitting next to me in the bar begins to fiddle with the hair on my forearms or chest, which they are apt to do at some point, I will say something like, "Oh, yes I am a little bit "monkey" (their term for having a hairy body) here and here", pointing to my forearms and my lower legs with a chuckle. "But I am not monkey anywhere here", pointing to my dick and balls area, "because I shave every day", miming the act of shaving as on my face. Which usually gets a very positive smile from the girl. Then, of course, I will have to smile and ask her, "Do you shave there, too?" Pointing to her pussy. Again, if her reaction is not one that gives me peace and comfort about the prospect of engaging in DATY with her later, I thank her for her time and am on to the next girl.

    IMO, there are several times during ordinary cute and flirtatious chit chat where opportunities arise to clarify whether or not the girl shaves, whether or not she is up for BBFS with me and so on that will seem to just pop up naturally and matter of fact without blatantly asking her point blank. Not that I would totally rely on those responses to stand in for answering a direct question. But when the direct question comes up a while later before a meeting or barfine payment has been arranged, it isn't as though it has come up out of the blue. She has had time to think about it, prepare for it and answer truthfully. Seems to cut down on the turnaround change of heart or claimed misunderstanding back in the room for me.

  15. #43602
    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock  [View Original Post]

    "Unexpectedly high HIV prevalence among female sex workers in Bangkok: Overall HIV prevalence was 20.2% (95% confidence interval). Three-quarters of women were street-based (75.8%) who had an especially high HIV prevalence (22.7% about 10 times higher than that found in routine sentinel surveillance among venue-based FSW (2. 5% " https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23512512.
    "This respondent-driven sampling survey was conducted in Bangkok in 2007 among female sex workers (FSW) in non-venue-based settings to pilot a new approach to surveillance among this hidden population. Fifteen initial participants recruited 707 consenting participants who completed a behavioural questionnaire, and provided oral fluid for HIV testing, and [CodeWord109] (ok, when you take a leak) for sexually transmitted infection (STI) testing."

    That is a notoriously terrible method for conducting a survey of this kind. In addition, I have read they offered money to the recruiters, the recruited and to provide free medical care for them. These incentives will naturally skew the results WAY above what one would encounter in a true random sampling survey. For starters, the paid recruiters are inclined to seek out known fellow HIV sufferers they've met in HIV treatment clinics, hospitals, support groups and so on. Maybe even in their needle sharing meet ups. They obviously were not going to wander around Sukhumvit and Soi 4, clip board in hand, tapping random freelancers on the shoulder to do their paid job of finding HIV-positive respondents.

    The agreeable respondents might not even be freelance sex workers per se but will only say so in order to get the money and the free treatment on offer. Which is convenient since they were not supposed to be recruiting go-go bar girls, beer bar girls, massage shop girls, BJ Bar girls or any other girls working in established venues meant for exchanging sex for money where their profession as "sex workers" essentially would or could be verified by a third party.

    uh, one might rightly conclude the pollsters wanted there to be an "Unexpectedly high HIV prevalence" result in their survey in order to trigger some kind of governmental funding for more and more surveys and treatment action. That sure beats disbanding the whole money-generating operation for lack of any notably alarming results.

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