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[Takedown]

I have made this same point in another part of the site when you have mongers who want to act like they are somehow "better" because they are supposedly more ethical or claim to treat women with more respect. In the eyes of greater society they are taking advantage of and abusing women just like any other monger. And I find this notion of "respect" to be rather twisted as the same monger putting himself on a pedestal as respecting women can turn right around and post about a desire to have ass-to-mouth sex with prostitutes! Really? Geez! If that is respecting women, then I guess I just don't get it!

What's not to get? As mongers, I think we all have to judge ourselves outside of societal norms. You can be respectful without being a white knight. Respect is just not being a shitty human being to other human beings and not believing that the prostitute is somehow a lower form of life than you.

[Takedown]

Of course it is like this. It has always been the main reason for wars and conflicts in a monogamous practicing civilization: Pussy.

Yeah, never for things like independence, territory, religion, or resources.

[Pistons]

My point on ethical problem was that on this forum we shouldn't bring up and talk too much about ethical issues on women as I responded to (not initiated) the question of ethical problem raised by Pistons, because we are all sinners from the social and religious points of view. If I were an ethical man on women, I wouldn't read and write on ISG. I wasn't condemning and making an issue of the ethical problem I raised. I was simply reminding that we shouldn't use ethical issues on women to make points on this hooker forum because we are all sinners in the eyes of society and religion.

On the contrary, and if you read the red line through my comments, I pose the opposite view on sin and what is ethically right and wrong. My consensus is that western religions based on monogamy is derived from sin, and is thus devil worship and truly unethical. While polygamy is real ethics and good practice, creating peace and stability.

There is an alternative view on this also, but that is very spiritual and far out, and way beyond pseudo science speaking about carnal desires and fallen angels sleeping with the daughters of man. But suit yourself if you rather take those stories for granted than what I propose. At best it only seeks to justify the twisted tongue of the religions we use. Interestingly all religions admits the devil or some devil figure rules the world. And who rules the world? Religions do of course.

[The Cane]

I was simply reminding that we shouldn't use ethical issues on women to make points on this hooker forum because we are all sinners in the eyes of society and religion.

I have made this same point in another part of the site when you have mongers who want to act like they are somehow "better" because they are supposedly more ethical or claim to treat women with more respect. In the eyes of greater society they are taking advantage of and abusing women just like any other monger. And I find this notion of "respect" to be rather twisted as the same monger putting himself on a pedestal as respecting women can turn right around and post about a desire to have ass-to-mouth sex with prostitutes! Really? Geez! If that is respecting women, then I guess I just don't get it!

[Bfsie]

My point on ethical problem was that on this forum we shouldn't bring up and talk too much about ethical issues on women as I responded to (not initiated) the question of ethical problem raised by Pistons, because we are all sinners from the social and religious points of view. If I were an ethical man on women, I wouldn't read and write on ISG. I wasn't condemning and making an issue of the ethical problem I raised. I was simply reminding that we shouldn't use ethical issues on women to make points on this hooker forum because we are all sinners in the eyes of society and religion.

[Pistons]

Been watching Marco Polo on Netflix while being sick, and one thing strikes me. Kublai Kahn defines the might of his lands through the quality and vastness of his harem. Of course it is like this. It has always been the main reason for wars and conflicts in a monogamous practicing civilization: Pussy.

[Polyamorist]

1. Your first paragraph only makes sense if I would have the general neoliberal idea regarding monogamy. Which is wrong. So I don't! And I don't see any issue with coming from a richer country to hand out currency to women from a more liberal poor country than mine. I even consider it as aid, and feel it should therefore give me tax refund.

Salaam, Pistons, great post. I agree with what you have written. Including the potential for technology to create a paradise on earth -- if it could only be used for creation rather than destruction.

Ideally an FKK is a place where interesting people of both sexes come from far and wide to meet, chat, relax, have sex, and share experiences from their different cultures. Since young women typically don't have a lot of money, it makes sense that they be compensated for their time and expenses.

The challenges FKKs face include (1) the historical stigma associated with prostitution, and (2) the fact that a lot of money is flowing through them, so that attracts the attention of gangs. The gangs are only interested in money and control, not sex or anything else. So they will always try to fill clubs with their drones and dominate them. This inhibits the interesting people (the real people) from meeting and doing business. It is the job of FKK management to stop this situation from arising, but usually, as long as the money keeps flowing in -- even fools' money -- they don't care. Until of course it's too late and the club collapses.

[Mr Ho]

Pistons,

I owe you an answer, so here it goes.

So there is no ethical problem that you flied from a rich European country because of your birth luck to fuck and do all kinds of perverted sex acts on the FKK WGs who are in this business because they are poor and have bad birth luckr.

For super mongers, feeling is when we cum inside beautiful girls and quality of life in area of sex depend on line up LOL.

OK, kidding aside, For some people, maybe minority, but we do not like to live with or spend too closely with women, like listen to them, pay for their life, support them during their mental emotional stability period, irrational spending, doing things we do not want to do, and I do not like how older women looks let say above age 30 ish etc.

For some of us, living with women for long period of time is merely a torture or irrational act.

It is each their own, I understand some guys like that, but for some others, it is not pleasure or good quality life to spend long time and live with woman. I tried it when I was younger, but it is only good for first few months, then it decline and I want to get out soon as possible after that first few months.

Again, I understand how other side or maybe majority since society educate us to think that way like relationship or marriage to woman, but that is not good life for all of men, in fact the opposite.

I like to be in full control of my happiness and in area of sex life, lust, mongering is the best road I found for me and as for feeling, human communications etc. I got friends to do that with and family and also dogs.

Bottom line is that, I only like women when they are young and beautiful, I think because mostly how they look.

[Optimist]

Does he look like you?

I dare not look at her. Poor mite.

[BigBuddy69]

Does he look like you?

[Optimist]

Did a followup message claim that potentially the new born is you baby? 😁.

No. But a picture arrived.

[Pistons]

Right. Why didn't you go to FKK clubs and hand out your money to the WGs without any session? That would be aid by definition. Anyway, you are entitled to your definition and I am not going to discuss further with you on that.

Maybe you have fever now. Honestly I don't know what you were trying to say and I am not sure on what you disagree with me except that you wrote about marriage. I said relationship in my post, I didn't say marriage and never used the word "marriage" in my post. Relationship has many forms and marriage is one form of relationship.

1. What makes you think I don't go in and hand them money. Either way, I would refer to these articles on Thai prostitution:

http://hir.harvard.edu/article/?a=14146

https://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/tex...view=text;xc=1

2. Just a relationship is so abigous and non-binding that it can go as anything. So I suppose you have a point. I reread my post and found it to be very informative, but it is a big topic.

[Gino02]

I hope Bfsie and Pistons will forgive me for dragging a red herring in. Pistons, you mention "aid". I sometimes have had similar thoughts, but the scale is important. I received today a request for three months rent by Monday for a girl being discharged from hospital allegedly homeless, with a new born infant. Sometimes the aid requested would bankrupt the donor. It would be like supporting a second family.

Just for info. This aid request will be ignored.

Did a followup message claim that potentially the new born is you baby? 😁.

[Optimist]

I hope Bfsie and Pistons will forgive me for dragging a red herring in. Pistons, you mention "aid". I sometimes have had similar thoughts, but the scale is important. I received today a request for three months rent by Monday for a girl being discharged from hospital allegedly homeless, with a new born infant. Sometimes the aid requested would bankrupt the donor. It would be like supporting a second family.

Just for info. This aid request will be ignored.

[Bfsie]

I even consider it as aid, ...

Right. Why didn't you go to FKK clubs and hand out your money to the WGs without any session? That would be aid by definition. Anyway, you are entitled to your definition and I am not going to discuss further with you on that.

2. The second paragraph asserts me that I did in fact not misread you. This is exactly what I responded to. I will try again:

I agree on your idea of trying new foods. I actually do believe it saves many lives in this world and make our world a more peaceful place if we all go polygamous. But why the marrige? And what is your idea of your own girl doing the same? Anthropology hints at the idea of marrige being a communistic idea that serves a warring purpose. To calm down the soldier with one pussy in order to quel revolts and keep him locked in semi slavery under an unjust system. Remember: he is to sacrifice his life for the king. The other reasoning for it, and for him not to have sex with many is the fear of sickness spreading among the population. So the entire marrige idea is a way of population control, and combatting diseases and large outbreaks.

Prostitution is nontheless a very natural instinct for all females of all races in order for the females to get resources for their babies. A married wife would therefore assume the control of all the resources made by her husband, and her hudband alone in trade for sex. Legally also so if you read the laws. So in a sense, marrige is a way of solo-prostitution. According to certain documents, the womens power to pussywhip her husband into working harder for the state is the only reason women got the power to vote in the beginning of last century. Remember the reason men got it in the first place was their commitment to the army, and willingness to die in a war for their country. Ethically solo-prostitution is in my ryes no better than poly-prostitution, and one can even say it is genetically superior for the female to practice poly-prostitution too. It acts a way of darwinism as the pretty ones gets a larger resource share, and it helps her own babies being genetically diverse. In the end, sex only speaks to our primal instincts of genespreading. But again, solo-prostitution is better liked by world leaders today thr poly-prostitution due to easier population control.

One cool little thing is that advancements in gene tech and molecular biology can remove all barriers the world would have against going 100% promiscous. And thus save the world from conflics and wars. So there is hope for the future, but the modern neoliberals are the worlds greatest enemies, and may cause a world war 3 before we get there.

Maybe you have fever now. Honestly I don't know what you were trying to say and I am not sure on what you disagree with me except that you wrote about marriage. I said relationship in my post, I didn't say marriage and never used the word "marriage" in my post. Relationship has many forms and marriage is one form of relationship.