Bangkok Reports

[Rick Rock]

3 days ago I went to Butterflies on the top floor, right hand side in Nana Plaza.

The place was fairly packed and I was shown a single chair to the left of the entrance. A few good looking girls dancing, but on the topless stage to the left there was no one that really caught my interest. I bought a beer and watched as a new set of girls entered the stage. Still nothing that really wanted me to pay BF. A few minutes later one of the staff (a younger mamasan helper) approached me with a girl next to her. She asked if I wanted this girl to sit with me. I took a good look and said sure, her name is Wan and said she is 27 years old. My guess is more like 32. Her stage number is 206. I bought her a drink and she jumped on my lap. Drank and talked for a while and she got me horny so I paid her BF (800) and we agreed on 2500 for ST. It was just around midnight when we left to walk to my hotel a few soi's away. She said she was hungry so we stopped for food at a small food cart. Had food and another beer. Got to the room and when she undressed she reveald a good looking body with no traces of baby damage or silicone. Showered together, dried of and got on the bed. What followed was one of the best blowjobs I ever had. Deep and with altering speed. She fucked her own throat so to speak, and seemed to really enjoy it as she got soaking wet just by giving me a blowjob. I just couldn't hold it so I blew the first load right in her mouth and she responded with swallowing my dick all the way and my load as well. We cuddled for a while before she made me ready for round 2. A shorter blowjob and she reached for a condom and put it on. She really wanted a dick inside her and did me cowgirl for about 10 minutes until she had a shivering orgasm. I knew I could not cum again that night so we just fell asleep. She didn't want to leave and asked to stay the night. I said sure. The next morning I was super hungry and said we need to go down and have breakfast. She came with me and when we got back upstairs she literally tore my pants of and got down on her knees to give another amazing blowjob. I stopped her before she made me cum and fucked her standing up. She had another orgasm and as I felt I was close I told her I am going to cum. She pulled out, took of the condom and basically swallowed my whole dick once again. A great experience with this girl and I will definitely repeat again in a few weeks when I get back to Bangkok.

Safe mongering.

What's her number?

[Franciscass]

Just want to add that every club has its own rule. In some clubs, the girl only get paid for the portion that is over the quota. Some clubs will pay girl back half of the LD price.

Some clubs will also pay girl back a small amount for the BF received.

Whatever the formula used where ever the bar it comes down to what % of the bar fine / lady drinks take goes to the girls. I don't know but my guess is that most places would budget it at 25% to 30%. Am I close?

[J A Karl]

3 days ago I went to Butterflies on the top floor, right hand side in Nana Plaza.

The place was fairly packed and I was shown a single chair to the left of the entrance. A few good looking girls dancing, but on the topless stage to the left there was no one that really caught my interest. I bought a beer and watched as a new set of girls entered the stage. Still nothing that really wanted me to pay BF. A few minutes later one of the staff (a younger mamasan helper) approached me with a girl next to her. She asked if I wanted this girl to sit with me. I took a good look and said sure, her name is Wan and said she is 27 years old. My guess is more like 32. Her stage number is 206. I bought her a drink and she jumped on my lap. Drank and talked for a while and she got me horny so I paid her BF (800) and we agreed on 2500 for ST. It was just around midnight when we left to walk to my hotel a few soi's away. She said she was hungry so we stopped for food at a small food cart. Had food and another beer. Got to the room and when she undressed she reveald a good looking body with no traces of baby damage or silicone. Showered together, dried of and got on the bed. What followed was one of the best blowjobs I ever had. Deep and with altering speed. She fucked her own throat so to speak, and seemed to really enjoy it as she got soaking wet just by giving me a blowjob. I just couldn't hold it so I blew the first load right in her mouth and she responded with swallowing my dick all the way and my load as well. We cuddled for a while before she made me ready for round 2. A shorter blowjob and she reached for a condom and put it on. She really wanted a dick inside her and did me cowgirl for about 10 minutes until she had a shivering orgasm. I knew I could not cum again that night so we just fell asleep. She didn't want to leave and asked to stay the night. I said sure. The next morning I was super hungry and said we need to go down and have breakfast. She came with me and when we got back upstairs she literally tore my pants of and got down on her knees to give another amazing blowjob. I stopped her before she made me cum and fucked her standing up. She had another orgasm and as I felt I was close I told her I am going to cum. She pulled out, took of the condom and basically swallowed my whole dick once again. A great experience with this girl and I will definitely repeat again in a few weeks when I get back to Bangkok.

Safe mongering.

[Penguin69]

Most people in the west have poor self esteem hence the popularity of over-priced brand label clothes and bags, expensive vehicles and prestigious careers which are shit but give employees ego-boosts in change for giving away their lives. When they can't get those things they turn to substance abuse or fanatically supporting a sports team to vicariously bask in their victories. Same same but different.

+1 on this.

[Faceless78]

I can think of a couple of reasons:

1) They probably have a family back home and struggle to get out for play time, given that they probably work long hours;.

2) They can't afford it back home. Hot Korean hookers are prety expensive, cheaper ones are pretty ordinary;.

3) They get a per diem when they travel, so for them it's free money to blow.

And 4) It's always exciting to try something new.

[Marky1]

I can think of a couple of reasons:

1) They probably have a family back home and struggle to get out for play time, given that they probably work long hours;.

2) They can't afford it back home. Hot Korean hookers are prety expensive, cheaper ones are pretty ordinary;.

3) They get a per diem when they travel, so for them it's free money to blow.

I'm not sure the ones I see in Angeles City or Bangkok are high up the corporate ladder with big expense accounts.

My point was that sure the women back in the west might be land whales. People like to make the point that westerners go to Asia for prostitutes because they can't get slim women at home.

But young Korean men can get young slim Korean women at home for free.

[Kerrstar]

What's the excuse for a young Korean man. Young Korean women are good looking (they make good hookers the world over).

I can think of a couple of reasons:

1) They probably have a family back home and struggle to get out for play time, given that they probably work long hours;.

2) They can't afford it back home. Hot Korean hookers are prety expensive, cheaper ones are pretty ordinary;.

3) They get a per diem when they travel, so for them it's free money to blow.

[WindAngel]

4. Girls had to hit a minimum number of LDs per month, depending on seniority. She was on 50 LDs per month. Again, for each LD they are short, they owe the owner a certain amount. But they made 50 baht for each LD they sell. This of course incentivizes them to stay in the gogo bar to sell more LDs, or to do ST so they can rush back and sell more LDs.

Just want to add that every club has its own rule. In some clubs, the girl only get paid for the portion that is over the quota. Some clubs will pay girl back half of the LD price.

Some clubs will also pay girl back a small amount for the BF received.

[WindAngel]

This is reported in Chinese forum. Traditionally girls are on contract that is renewed every 30 days. The club has 30 days to recover the cost of hiring the girl by BF. The BF cost increases is partly due to competition in recent years from new clubs that pay more and using shorter term contracts, 15 days or 10 days, to attract better girls. In order for the the clubs to recover the cost, they increase BF. But a sudden jump to double BF does not bode well for the customer so the two tiers system appear.

[Franciscass]

I think this is correct: the girl referred to is as a salary, but you could think of it more as a bonus, or an incentive, or whatever. So when I said:

It would have been more accurate to say that if she didn't meet her minimum BF or LD quota, her "salary" was docked by a certain amount. But the girl I spoke to always received her full 19000 baht "salary" because she hit the metrics each month. So whether you think of it as a salary or a bonus or anything else, there is this small pot of money that they can earn, one way or another.

Not wishing to be overly argumentative the operative word is "can earn" not does earn or will earn. What she actually ends with will be calculated as salary plus commission if she hits the numbers for drinks and bar fines as with your lady friend or salary less fines if she comes up short. It more correctly ends up being actual commission for drinks and bar fines. Owners use the carrot of offering a relatively large salary as an incentive to show.

Look how much you can make at my place hoping they will attract the most popular girls who they know will earn far more than the fictional salary.

[Pointy Stick]

In the West you must wear over-priced brand label clothes in order to get the time of day from a non-pro.

I don't want the time of day from a non-pro female because I can look at my iPhone for that, I want them to leave me alone because these interactions cost me time / money / stress. Once you 'get' how society works, how it wants you to prioritize other people's interests over your own then you'll never go back. Which is why I like LOS because I'll never be a part of society here. I'm just some farang wandering about doing my thing.

[Kumbu]

This notion that there is a salary structure at go go's is a nonsense. There is no salary. There are commissions for LD's and bar fines. She can be told her "salary" is x amount but its only if she hits certain targets otherwise its reduced to what she would have gotten anyway by way of commissions.

I have seen setups like this with commissioned salespeople before where it is called a 'draw' vs commissions. Evens out the slow earning periods. More like an 'advance' against future earnings per se.

I think this is correct: the girl referred to is as a salary, but you could think of it more as a bonus, or an incentive, or whatever. So when I said:

2. Girls are required to hit a certain number of bar fines per month . . . If she came in under that number, she had to pay the owner some amount for each missing bar fine.

It would have been more accurate to say that if she didn't meet her minimum BF or LD quota, her "salary" was docked by a certain amount. But the girl I spoke to always received her full 19000 baht "salary" because she hit the metrics each month. So whether you think of it as a salary or a bonus or anything else, there is this small pot of money that they can earn, one way or another.

[Sunlover2]

This notion that there is a salary structure at go go's is a nonsense. There is no salary. There are commissions for LD's and bar fines. She can be told her "salary" is x amount but its only if she hits certain targets otherwise its reduced to what she would have gotten anyway by way of commissions.

I have seen setups like this with commissioned salespeople before where it is called a 'draw' vs commissions. Evens out the slow earning periods. More like an 'advance' against future earnings per se.

SL.

[Turgid]

What percentage of Thai who have never interacted with foreigners have plastic surgery?

Most people in the west have poor self esteem hence the popularity of over-priced brand label clothes and bags, expensive vehicles and prestigious careers which are shit but give employees ego-boosts in change for giving away their lives. When they can't get those things they turn to substance abuse or fanatically supporting a sports team to vicariously bask in their victories. Same same but different.

In the West you must wear over-priced brand label clothes in order to get the time of day from a non-pro.

[Franciscass]

This notion that there is a salary structure at go go's is a nonsense. There is no salary. There are commissions for LD's and bar fines. She can be told her "salary" is x amount but its only if she hits certain targets otherwise its reduced to what she would have gotten anyway by way of commissions.