Aruba

[ClubTed]

Well it's been 2 months since anyone has posted here on the Aruba board, so figured I'd pass along some intel which may have a significant impact on the San Nicolas RLD. From the way I see it, it may get better, or it may be a thing of the past. It appears that a high speed ferry service is in the works connecting Aruba with Curacao. The islands are roughly 70 miles apart, and it's projected that the one way trip will be about 2 hours. I'd say more depending on sea conditions. But the vessel being considered, supposedly can accommodate 800 passengers and 300 cars, so that's got to be one hell of a good size ferry. The cost is supposed to be a fraction of what the airfare currently is.

The terminus in Aruba is going to be in San Nicolas. The plan is to knock some of the walls down around the oil refinery that open up to the beach and what I'm guessing are some docks that used to accommodate oil tankers when the refinery was running full tilt. I'm guessing it's down towards Rodgers Beach, since there are also plans to revitalize Rogers Beach and inject the local economy with hundreds, maybe thousands of tourists, versus the smattering that currently venture down from the northern part of the island. I'm not sure of the exact planned location, hell it could be one block behind Charlie's Bar!

Anyway, with the potential for San Nicolas becoming a bustling port of entry, I'm wondering how this bodes on the officially sanctioned RLD. The back alleys of San Nicolas are hell holes, but nevertheless fun to explore. Wonder if the city fathers will make moves to clean things up or abolish the trade altogether, replacing buildings with cafes, shopping, and more tourist stuff that you would expect would exist there now, but actually doesn't.

San Nicolas may be changing from how we know it now down the road. Will have to keep an eye on how this planned ferry service develops.

[EricHolden]

Making my first trip in the next couple of weeks. Flight is booked but I need to find lodging. Looking for someplace that is visitor friendly near the beaches. Any recommendations?

[FootnballCoach]

First, let me preface this by saying that my last visit to the island was last October, and since that time, only one or two, "boots on the ground" posts regarding first hand reports of the situation in San Nicolas. Surprised not more visits occurring on what happens to be the third most talked about island in this section, lagging only behind SXM and CUR. I'm guessing that the lineup has changed since last October and that most of that shift returned home to celebrate the winter holidays. San Nicolas doesn't necessarily offer the strongest line-up so wondering if anyone has visited as of late. My last visit, I met a chica that told me she was from Peru. That was a first. But, to use a hockey phrase. Is San Nicolas at "full strength" these days?

And just to clarify, girls in the bars live in rooms adjacent to the bars and work at night. Sometimes you will see them out in the streets during the day in casual, although sexy outfits, since some of there rooms are situated so as they really can't work from them during the day. Not hard to distinguish. Others that work in some of the older bars have rooms that open up to the back alley streets and they work during the day from their rooms. And then there are those chicas that work entirely from a room both during the day and at night. For example the Brooklyn Bar is closed, but some chicas work from rooms that were on the backside of that bar both day and night..

From the hotel area if they go at all, most people take the bus down town. Streets are blocked, No parking etc. The parade is below average PG at best. It's not Reo, or New Orleans or Jukino in Nasau. As for St Nicholas, I took the Bus They dropped me off a mile from the zone and I walked in. All the streets were blocked. When I got in the bars were closed as if Sunday or a holiday. Never again.

[ClubTed]

First, let me preface this by saying that my last visit to the island was last October, and since that time, only one or two, "boots on the ground" posts regarding first hand reports of the situation in San Nicolas. Surprised not more visits occurring on what happens to be the third most talked about island in this section, lagging only behind SXM and CUR. I'm guessing that the lineup has changed since last October and that most of that shift returned home to celebrate the winter holidays. San Nicolas doesn't necessarily offer the strongest line-up so wondering if anyone has visited as of late. My last visit, I met a chica that told me she was from Peru. That was a first. But, to use a hockey phrase. Is San Nicolas at "full strength" these days?

And just to clarify, girls in the bars live in rooms adjacent to the bars and work at night. Sometimes you will see them out in the streets during the day in casual, although sexy outfits, since some of there rooms are situated so as they really can't work from them during the day. Not hard to distinguish. Others that work in some of the older bars have rooms that open up to the back alley streets and they work during the day from their rooms. And then there are those chicas that work entirely from a room both during the day and at night. For example the Brooklyn Bar is closed, but some chicas work from rooms that were on the backside of that bar both day and night.

So getting to my topic which I wished to address. I know Aruba is big with their Carneval celebration. Has anyone been to San Nicolas during this time? Been checking flights and accommodations and may burn some frequent flyer miles and head down for the first weekend in March. San Nicolas has a parade on March 2nd, and Sunday is the big parade in Oranjestad. San Nicolas, literally has an area called Carnival Village on Bernhardstraat, a few blocks from the RLD.

Sure it's a rocking and festive mood, but my experience in San Nicolas has been entirely with the town being sleepy. Not sure how I could handle it rocking and rolling! LOL Also, if the island descends on San Nicolas for Carnival, chica availability may not be as generous as during the off peak time. If anyone has an Aruba Carnival visit to San Nicolas under their belt, would be curious to hear your experience. And BTW, the place I usually stay at is a block from the Carnival site in San Nicolas. I just don't want to be down there if the entire high rise hotel population descends upon the village during this time.

[Scubatoo]

I am planning on making my very first mongering trip this may, I have been having a hard time deciding between Dominican republic SXM and Aruba. Based off what you guys have said I am leaning towards Aruba however, can the same things that happen in Aruba happen in sxm as far as getting chicas during the day etc. ? I really don't like having to meet girls in brothels and such and would much rather have girls over at my airbnb, with that in mind do you guys agree that Aruba is better? Also what is the general pricing for an overnight or day trip with a girl on these islands?

Have either of y'all been to the Dominican and if you can compare please let me know would be grateful.

I am just going to throw in a bit of personal experience. Club Ted has told you about Aruba, and a bit about St. Maarten. I agree that in St. Maarten, you are only going to find daytime mongering at a few of the clubs. They all have "take out" fines that vary, and the girls always have to be back by early morning, or early evening, unless you pay a higher fine. My approach has always been to do a session with the chica in the club. If I like her, I go back the next day and do a double session. By that time, I know what talent she has and her personality. Only then, do I consider taking her out for a night or day. The fee the girls asks for are COMPLETELY negotiable. By developing a relationship in the clubs, I have NEVER been asked a fee from any of those girls I have taken out of the club. Instead, they love the feeling of "normal" and a dinner / lunch, beach time, nice hotel room, a bit of shopping or errand running is welcome relief from the usual grind. I do give them something when I return them to the club, but it is my choice. And I then see them at the club again, if I like them. Without developing a rapport, you are going to be asked to pay $250-400 for take out. I did it once on a whim, and it was mediocre sex with a tired woman. Never again. I can have 5-8 sessions in the clubs with different women for that and a much better time. If money is no object, then you will have lots of choices. Take out is where most of the "hot" girls make most of their money, so if they can latch on for a day or two, it goes a long way in taking money back home. But your mileage will vary doing it that way, and money may not be well spent.

I have not been to the DR for many years. But I do stay in touch with several girls in the DR that I have met in St Maarten. The economy in the DR is horrible, and I am told that there are young girls hanging everywhere hoping to latch on to a monger that happens to pass their way during the day or evening. Just have to open your eyes and not be afraid to approach a girl wherever you might find yourself. Odds are, you will get lucky. I plan to go to the DR sometime this year, and will report what I find at that time.

[ClubTed]

I've never been to the DR so can't speak to that. As for meeting girls, you are going to have to meet them in the brothel setting before you do take out. And it's highly recommended you do a test drive, before you go for TLD or TLN. Doing takeout blindly, can lead to major disappointment. In Aruba you have girls working out of their rooms right adjacent to the street during the day and in SXM you have bars with onsite lodging for the girls embedded in the establishment. Aruba seems to offer escort services, but I like to kick the tires and take the car around the block before I make the purchase. Here are some general tips you should follow regardless of if you are in SXM or Aruba, or even the DR.

A. Advance intell. In addition to the obligatory test drive, what is the girl's attitude? Is she overly aggressive? If she's overly aggressive and a shark, all she's interested in is sucking you dry. Not you but your wallet. Also, is there attraction? Most like on your part, but what about hers? It always helps if the chica is into you, for being you, rather than just how padded your wallet is.

Be. Beauty. If she is a total stunner or 10 plus, beware. She will no doubtedly command a high price, and probably has local admirers that have her on speed dial. Some of these stunners you may see once during your trip and never again due to their dance cards being so filled up. Also, going along with attraction, how's your beauty? LOL. If you're a decent looking guy, makes the dial go more smoothly in your favor.

See. Chemistry. If the two of you hit it off that you are going to be in for a spectactular time. Knowing some spanish in this case goes along way. Also, on the lines of communication, having a defined game plan discussed beforehand helps. Don't leave and head to the beach if she's not dressed for it. Don't promise shopping vaguely. You could end up with her wanting to go to a high end boutique wanting to buy a pair of three hundred dollar shoes or a 200 dollar pocketbook. Limit shopping to a grocery store where she can pick up some essentials, if she wants. Better yet, stock your place beforehand with water, soda, goya products that she can take from your AirBnB place. Now your pad becomes the store and when she wants to restock up, she won't think twice of coming back to your place.

As I said, daytime in Aruba yields opportunity. If you don't meet up at the outdoor cafe, you still have to prowl the streets and approach the open doorways to make connections. In SXM, you have to visit the bars, of which the ones closest to the cruise ships open the earliest. With that in mind, take out during the day, especially at Carolinas can be difficult. Reason being, with say 4 cruise ships in port, that's a lot of potential business coming to the clubs. Not just tourists, but cruise ship staff. From 11:30 until 3:30 pm A place like Carolinas can rock. And an attractive, experienced chica can make hundreds of dollars in the safety of her own backyard. Let alone drink for free like a fish with patrons buying drinks and shots left and right. Also the clubs / bars institute a bar fine if you take a chica out during her scheduled shift.

In SXM, quiet time used to be from 4 pm Until 8 pm When the chicas were free to come and go as they pleased. I've had much luck in the past taking chicas out at 4 pm, circumventing the bar fine. Again, a lot of this success comes with building a rapport with the chica and becoming her "unofficial" novio. (boyfriend).

As far as pricing. Tons of variables. How long? How popular is she? How hurting is she for money? (has it been slow for her). You could throw a dollar amount out and see if she bites. You can ask her and see what see says. You can table that offer and come back the next day with a counter offer and sweeten the deal with early dinner. If you are staying at an AirBNB with a barbecue you are in luck. Chicas love to be able to cook on a grill. That might be enticing itself if you promise her a fiesta.

Then again, if this is your first mongering trip and you've saved all your paper route tips from when you were a kid, maybe cost is no object! Anyway, remember, that if a girl wants 300 dollars for an afternoon, and the going rate is 50 bucks a half hour session, that's 5 other girls that you've missed out on, just to spend an afternoon with someone, that you better well be dam into!

Have fun, and remember, make sure pretty much everything is agreed upon beforehand. Otherwise, you can be in for a major disappointment, a shortened date!

I am planning on making my very first mongering trip this may, I have been having a hard time deciding between Dominican republic SXM and Aruba. Based off what you guys have said I am leaning towards Aruba however, can the same things that happen in Aruba happen in sxm as far as getting chicas during the day etc. ? I really don't like having to meet girls in brothels and such and would much rather have girls over at my airbnb, with that in mind do you guys agree that Aruba is better? Also what is the general pricing for an overnight or day trip with a girl on these islands?.

[Koolj]

I am planning on making my very first mongering trip this may, I have been having a hard time deciding between Dominican republic SXM and Aruba. Based off what you guys have said I am leaning towards Aruba however, can the same things that happen in Aruba happen in sxm as far as getting chicas during the day etc. ? I really don't like having to meet girls in brothels and such and would much rather have girls over at my airbnb, with that in mind do you guys agree that Aruba is better? Also what is the general pricing for an overnight or day trip with a girl on these islands?

Have either of y'all been to the Dominican and if you can compare please let me know would be grateful.

[Scubatoo]

Long time visitor to SXM, and now somewhat of a veteran of Aruba, specifically San Nicolas. I can't speak about The Mill, or escort services, or anything else on Aruba short of the only official RLD on the island. Been debating whether to return to SXM post hurricane, as it appear to recover, or go back to the seediness of San Nicolas. And despite some of my not too glamorous San Nicolas reports of the past, I just may return to Aruba, for nothing more than just a better thrill of the hunt! LOL......

Having been to St. Maarten many times, and to San Nicolas, Club Ted has made many very valid points. Although I go to St. Maarten every year, I really want to get back to Aruba. I had great fun exploring the talent in SN, and the excellent intel Club Ted has provided just heightens that desire. The key in both destinations is to have the confidence to approach and engage these girls. Good things flow from it. If you don't have the confidence, or the time to invest on vacation, the ease of going to a club in St. Maarten and having a good session is almost a no brainer. But if you have game, and time, and love the thrill of the hunt like I do, Aruba is a fun place to explore it. Many will be surprised that Barbados has lots of options now as well to engage with the dozens of beautiful Jamaican girls now working there. You can see my post on the Barbados thread for more on that. Knowing some Spanish helps in both St. Maarten and San Nicolas. Google translate is great at helping communication. And all the Colombian, Jamaican and DR girls are using WhatsApp these days, so it is easy to keep in contact with the girls throughout your stay and beyond.

As for travel from one side of Aruba to the other, remember the entire island is less than 20 miles long. And the highway that runs from the Gold Coast to SN is quite good. Yes, it takes a little while to go from Point A to Point be, but certainly manageable. In St. Maarten, if you stay in Simpson Bay or Maho, it can take just as long because of slow traffic.

[Quagmire1974]

BTW, my hotel was near the Mill (odd location) and I stopped by numerous times even after 1 am as was recommended and I'm of the opinion that the place wasn't presently open. Seemed like renovations going on.

Interesting that renovations were going on during the height of the tourist season. But that might be a good sign, as renovations can mean that a place is gaining in popularity and management (old or new) is trying to spruce the place up to be more visually appealing. Perhaps renovations at The Mill will bring more tourists and even more WGs together.

[ClubTed]

Long time visitor to SXM, and now somewhat of a veteran of Aruba, specifically San Nicolas. I can't speak about The Mill, or escort services, or anything else on Aruba short of the only official RLD on the island. Been debating whether to return to SXM post hurricane, as it appear to recover, or go back to the seediness of San Nicolas. And despite some of my not too glamorous San Nicolas reports of the past, I just may return to Aruba, for nothing more than just a better thrill of the hunt! LOL.

SXM is a great destination with alot of variety, many clubs, but also, what I'm comparing vs. Aruba. Many people, sampling the goods! Sounds like the locals are really descending on the clubs at night, and when cruise ships are in port, Carolinas, Crystals, and Empire are pretty bustling. This has always been the case, but after my last visit to Aruba, and giving it some thought. Whereas it's a sellers market in SXM, it's a buyers market in SN!

San Nicolas is so off the beaten path, that only hard core tourists staying in the north, and locals in the know, cruise the streets and alleys of the small town. In other words, you're not going to find a jamming scenario during the day at a bar in San Nicolas, like you would at Carolinas at two in the afternoon. From my observations, you don't get the cruise ship crowds or crews trekking down from Oranjestad to SN. So, point one, the chicas are readily available during the day, and are basically free lancers!

Evenings are a bit different in SN. The bars are open, the girls are working, and its a game of numbers for them. And since SN at dark isn't Times Square, the girls work as quickly as possible to make up at night, for what didn't materialize during the day. So point two, is to refrain from partaking at night. You may want to scope out the talent in the bars and on the streets and take notes, but here's my advice to get the best out of your San Nicolas experience.

First, if you're staying up north in the high rise hotel district, be prepared to do some driving. It's a doable drive from Noord to SN, but, spending an inordinate amount of time in a rental car, isn't my idea of a tropical vacation. So if you stay in a property close to SN, you've got location on your side.

Second, daytime recon is extremely important, and this starts as early as 5 am! There is a small Latin covered cafe across from Fan Restaurant and three blocks up from the entrance to the oil refinery, that serves as mission control for the chicas. Those chicas that didn't get taken out for the night are keyed up and gravitate here at the crack of dawn to continue the nighttime party. And yes, you can get a beer at 5 or 5:30 am When the place opens. Usually there's a couple of local playboy / drug dealer guys sitting on stools with their favorite girls, but you've got a great opportunity to start some conversations with some chicas that could lead to you being with them for the entire day. The next window of opportunity is around lunch time, when more will show up in casual clothes and either order take out or eat in at the bar. Another opportunity to either set something up in her room or take her out for the afternoon to Baby Beach or some shopping in the area or back to your place if you're fairly close by.

Speaking of rooms, someone recently mentioned the rooms the San Nicolas girls stay in. Yes, they are pretty depressing, so if you've got game, any chance they have to change they're surroundings is a feather in your cap!

Third, if you've met and visited a chica either from the Latin cafe, or from cruising around and seeing one with her door open during the day, you're best bet for TLN is to tell her you will pick her up after she's done working at 2 am, and take her back to your place. The damage is minimal, no bar fine involved, and the last time I did it, the chica had her shopping bag like pocket book ready as I cruised around and spied her outside her bar and she jumped in my car and off we went until around 9 am The next morning. At which time, I had my fill and decided to take her back home.

Fourth, the price is right. During the day, you can visit a chica for 50 florin, which is about thirty bucks. Make it 60 florin and you're a hero. Compare that to the fifty at SXM plus room key, plus the twenty minute rule. In Aruba, nobody during the day is going to be banging on anybody's door.

Lastly, by offering to be a driver for the chica, whether it be for her medical appointment, a grocery store run, a visit to Wendy's, anything to get her out of the monotony of San Nicolas, goes a long way. And if you're staying close by, it's an easy segway to get the chica back to your place for food and drink. Most won't want to get wasted during the day, but a fridge full of food and some cold Balashis goes a long way! Last October I had a Colombiana back in my apartment and she devoured all my lunch meats and cheese without even making a sandwich!

So in summary, even though a visit to San Nicolas is concentrated and doesn't offer the 6 or 7 different clubs that SXM offers, you've got a more "buyer" friendly environment, that I think can be more conducive to GFE encounters, if you've got game and play your cards right.

Now all I need is airfare and accommodations to fall into place, and Aruba, I'll be back next month! If anyone has any specific questions, feel free to PM me.

[Geffe71]

Anyway, Tinder offered a small group of island providers most asking +$150.
And yes, it was convenient that she was dropped off at my hotel (funny story about bringing her up unnoticed. LOL).

Aside from Tinder, I did see an advertisement in a local paper for this Escort Service: Honey Dolls (5xx-xx35) but please note I did not use their service as from what I heard, it's a more bachelor party type deal so prob really expensive and yet again, no guarantee that you'll like what's delivered.

Tinder is a good tool. Met a few freelancers on Tinder. Sounds like your provider was part of one of the services on the island (Honey Dolls, Yap Yum, Platinum, Pleasure). I matched with someone and happened to see the same photo on one of the services websites.

I've only done Yap Yum (for some reason they were not advertising when I was on island in November, but we're in the paper the past two times prior) and went on their website to look at some of their girls to get an idea, then I messaged them to see who was available and my preferences and they sent me pictures to pick from or I could as for others. I will probably use them again along with some freelancers to mix it up a bit. The freelancers I've had the past two years were awesome, sun and fun and a killer body.

[XBeatle]

So, I was there from 12/16-23rd.

I had a really nice time. Bottom line.

Great weather, gorgeous room / view, snorkeling, great dining, made $$$ gambling 8-.

I also thought that many of the basic offerings were insanely expensive. So, keep that in mind.

As far as mongering goes, I had a car so I took the journey to San Nicholas one night and let's just say that I didn't get out of my car. I just circled around the 4 block square region and thought better of it.

Not saying there was any hint of bad intentions, it's just that I'm a late night monger-er and prefer a more accommodating offering where I'm not stressing about walking down grim, darkly lit side-streets to find a place to hang my hat. Among other things.

Personally, I prefer the setup in places like San Martin where the establishment's have multiple provider options. So, once you're in, you're kind of good to go. Grab a drink and watch the show. Until you see what you want. But even in the places on Saint Martin, my head is on a swivel on the way too / from their parking lots. LOL.

The "buildings & rooms" the girls of SN work out of appeared dingy and more like prisons (Again I didn't actually go in any but I saw a lot of barred windows).

Probably the main reason I decided to loop around and head back north was that the women I did see hawking their wares outside these dingy places weren't really my kind.

No doubt the island is highly populated with Venezuelan girls and personally, they're just too fake (boobs, excessive makeup & perfume. Etc. Etc) for my liking. Not too mention that I'm not a big fan of large butts.

I prefer a bit more of a subtle, smaller, thinner, classic spinner look rather than a trumpet blasting pea-cocking "look at me baby" type of provider. Just my preference.

That being said, and since I was "motivated" by the prior nights odyssey, I ordered in via Tinder as it was hard to find any mongering outside of dingy SN. And I asked around (waiters. Etc. Etc).

I'm prob sure I could of found something if I frequented Oranjestad a bit more but I was quite comfy in my northern neck of the woods and not in the mood to deal with vast crowds of locals heading to the casinos in OJ. Maybe next visit.

Anyway, Tinder offered a small group of island providers most asking +$150.

The girl I chose ended up having older photos on her profile (Tinder?, go figure. LOL) and she was 100% mechanical.

If experience has proven anything to me it's that I prefer going to an establishment and choosing someone after seeing and talking with them (and yes, I'm aware that this doesn't actually guarantee a non robotic performance).

The good news was I bargained her down a bit before making the deal. So, not such a big loss.

And yes, it was convenient that she was dropped off at my hotel (funny story about bringing her up unnoticed. LOL).

Aside from Tinder, I did see an advertisement in a local paper for this Escort Service: Honey Dolls (5xx-xx35) but please note I did not use their service as from what I heard, it's a more bachelor party type deal so prob really expensive and yet again, no guarantee that you'll like what's delivered.

This is why I won't consider Aruba in any future "mongering centric" trips that I take.

BTW, my hotel was near the Mill (odd location) and I stopped by numerous times even after 1 am as was recommended and I'm of the opinion that the place wasn't presently open. Seemed like renovations going on.

All in all, I had a really nice, relaxing vacation and will be going back again.

Hope this helps.

X.

[LoveVegas]

Love to know how your experience was at the Mill Resort when you return. I've heard some bad reviews because of the renovations. Thinking about staying there in January. Nice to hear first hand from a trusted source. Thanks!

The mill resort is great. Rooms are huge and very clean. Staff is great as well. Just short walk to the beach or take the free shuttle. For the price you can't beat it and the bar at night is great just few steps away.

[JackMich]

I'll be there in Aruba the 15th staying at the mill. If your around and want hook up this is my 4th trip and know the st Nicolas area pretty good.

Love to know how your experience was at the Mill Resort when you return. I've heard some bad reviews because of the renovations. Thinking about staying there in January. Nice to hear first hand from a trusted source. Thanks!

[XBeatle]

I'll be there in Aruba the 15th staying at the mill. If your around and want hook up this is my 4th trip and know the st Nicolas area pretty good.

Let me try this again. LOL.

So yeah Vegas, I'm game. Text me [Telephone Number deleted by Admin] and we'll chat prior to trip.

Xbeatle.

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