Medellin Reports

[Balboa]

Put it in a different context but similar situation, if I pick up a girl at Gusto for 300, after sex the girl demands 300 USD and I only want to pay 300 KCOP, are you saying that I have to pay 300 USD to the girl because it is common sense?

Come on man, if you're not bright enough to clear that up beforehand, stay home.

Geeeez.

[JjBee62]

I suppose it boils down to personal preference. I prefer casas. At my age I have passed the stage of spending considerable time with pros. I go, have fun, exit and ultimately retreat to the solace of my room where I do other things that I like. I don't even hangout in the casas where I see so many Americans do. Most times I meet them hanging out, chatting and drinking and when I leave the same guys are there. There are some destinations where I will bring a pro to my room because you will not get them otherwise and that would be Canada and some parts of Asia.

Regarding posting trip reports of specific girls I have found that to be helpful. I don't do it as much as I used to because I've noticed that it is just not done on this board. I do it on FKK boards because everyone else does. I find reports on bad service girls particularly useful..

I guess the specific girl reports depends on which end of the pool you're swimming in. There are 40 or 50 very well known chicas that work the gringo market pretty hard. Many are current, or former Mansion regulars, many speak a bit of English and they tend to be higher volume and reasonably consistent performers. With these girls you can read the reviews and have a good idea what a session will be like.

My preference, if I'm not hitting a casa is to find the lower volume girls, who see a gringo as someone different. My experience with them is that it's very unpredictable.

I had the chance to compare notes with a lot of guys. One instance was at a party. About 75 girls and 50-60 gringos. One guy was just collecting numbers, so I pointed out a girl and asked if he had gotten her number. He told me he'd been with her before and she was a starfish, only CBJ, rushed him, wouldn't kiss. Just not worth talking to. However, I'd been with her. We had a session that lasted over 2 hours. She seemed to enjoy every position, no problem with the BBBJ and was great with kissing.

With other girls, guys have gotten the same results as me.

Now with problem girls, I'm in favor of calling them out for real problems. But, if the performance wasn't up to my standards, I'll just keep it to myself unless someone asks. Maybe she was having a bad day. Maybe she wasn't feeling well. Maybe we just weren't compatible. Unless it's a significant issue, I just let it slide.

[Baudelairemod]

The difference is ambiance and creature comforts. The girl is no different. Casa has cold water in the shower, room may be too hot, bed may not be as comfortable as you want. You pretty much have to decide if controlling those aspects are worth the 100K or whatever difference in price it would be to have a chick come to you. For me it is generally not.

Completely get what you're saying, Mr. E. One needs to obviously know where his comfort ends and what he's willing to put up with. I don't particularly mind the cold showers and the uncomfortable bed as I'm not really going to spend my day there. I am a guy who runs very hot and who starts sweating everytime it goes above 20 see so if anything I welcome a cold shower!

Obviously, a casa can also be the testing ground to determine if a chica is even worthy of you bringing back into your personal space. Also, if you bring a casa chica to your place and something happens at least there is a paper trail back to the casa and people that know her.

Medellin is interesting and I like to be free to move around and explore. A casa to get the sex part out of the way works. A great session in my apartment with a good girl is appealing also. But the waiting around and structuring a day to be on time and ready for an apartment date is stressful at times and essentially reduces the amount of time I experience the city and culture. It's not "vacationy".

As Chicafan and Orgasmico are saying above, I like casas because they're always great hunting grounds to find some nice cute hidden gem (especially in the less travelled ones) to maybe groom for some more 1-on-1. I am also not at all in the whole cuddling thing so I'd have to deal with how kicking them out once done. The casas eliminate all the stress and are a sure thing. Plus who could say no to those lineups?

I deal with a lot of non-pros that will come over and I can get the romance and comfortable sessions in with them. But if someone is only dealing with hookers I can understand paying the price to get them to come for a more comfortable session.

Not quite sure what you mean by non-pros but if they're sucking your dick and you're giving them money for it, it generally means they're hookers. Maybe you meant less-jaded ones that do not advertise their services / are in casas / are in the street? Or are you picking up genuine girls in malls and at the gym?

We can obviously spend a lot of time debating this but I think that non-pros should fuck "for free" or at least without any actual currency exchanging hands or anything clearly agreed before hand. I met a girl once on SA in Panama who was at uni and simply wanted to go out with a European guy. I happened to be the right person at the right time. I obviously paid for the meal and drinks but after that we fucked all night and she left quite early in the morning without even daring to ask for any money. In my book that's a non pro!

[PolloNegro]

Put it in a different context but similar situation, if I pick up a girl at Gusto for 300, after sex the girl demands 300 USD and I only want to pay 300 KCOP, are you saying that I have to pay 300 USD to the girl because it is common sense?

This is the message several board members are sending and the Colombian feed off of the success they have at doing the least and receiving the most. But as I always say, all is fair and understood! Pollo Negro is Out!

[Chicafan]

Generally during holidays and festivals the chicas are with their families and boyfriends.

Reminds me of a joke a friend likes to tell to illustrate what he says is all you need to know about Latin women.

Girl says to her girlfriend "I think my boyfriend is cheating on me". The girfriend pauses, looks curiously at her, then asks "which boyfriend?

I suppose it boils down to personal preference. I prefer casas. At my age I have passed the stage of spending considerable time with pros. I go, have fun, exit and ultimately retreat to the solace of my room where I do other things that I like. I don't even hangout in the casas where I see so many Americans do.

I am moving in your direction but wish I knew where are more casas. There must be 50 that are essentially hidden to most of us. Medellin is interesting and I like to be free to move around and explore. A casa to get the sex part out of the way works. A great session in my apartment with a good girl is appealing also. But the waiting around and structuring a day to be on time and ready for an apartment date is stressful at times and essentially reduces the amount of time I experience the city and culture. It's not "vacationy". It has taken me some time and reflection to see that clearly. I get a little frustrate if a girls says 7, which becomes 8 then arrives at 9. There have been days I wanted to relax for the day, see a girl late afternoon, then head out for the night and do whatever strikes me. But when 5 pm becomes 7 I end up wishing I had done a casa or some kind of session early but put it off because I believed I was only hours away from a girl arriving at my apartment. We've all been there.

On my last trip I found a casa girl I really liked and saw her several times. It was so simple. The casa was close and I would message to see if she was available. Those sessions were an hour out of my day instead of the several hours (or more) for a couple hours (at most) with a FB girl.

I would love to know of several casas in each barrio but how would I find out? If I knew several in Bello I would roam around there from time to time.

[LoveItHere69]

My buddy has 15+ years experience. We go to a bar with girls on stage. He sees the skinny type he likes. He stares at her and she looks away or even turns away. He smiles and no smile back. He tries to talk with her and she does not answer half his questions and her answers are very short. But still he buys her a drink and sometimes even bar fines these girls. Only on rare occasions can he just stop and talk to a street girl. No social skills what so ever. He carries himself like a tourist and they spot him a mile away. Sadly there are a bunch of these guys out there. They are the ones that can not sense a bad situation. These are the guys that the girls "test" more often by giving less performance, stealing small things, etc. Since there is less chance of a newbie tourist type foreigner complaining versus a regular tourist visitor who knows the game.

Rarely ever do I share girl contacts. I had a guy I met that had been playing in many countries for years. He asked me if I ever tried to renegotiate for a lower price with a girl once I got her into the room. I went off on him about how stupid that was and why. Never talked to him again.

[YippieKayay]

Been lurking for some time now, even tried to pay and join but I'm in the states. I'm in the midst of planning my maiden voyage to Medellin. I was targeting the week around Colombian independence day. Would this be a good or bad time to go? When I lived in Miami I wouldn't miss the Colombian independence day festival they'd have every year always was a blast applying same logic here.

Generally during holidays and festivals the chicas are with their families and boyfriends. Not the best time but not necessarily the worst. Worst is Easter or Christmas.

[JjBee62]

Put it in a different context but similar situation, if I pick up a girl at Gusto for 300, after sex the girl demands 300 USD and I only want to pay 300 KCOP, are you saying that I have to pay 300 USD to the girl because it is common sense?

If you didn't clarify it with her first, then it's your mistake. If a girl at Gusto tells you "tres cientos", the proper response is "pesos?

Common sense says that you clear up any confusion before there's a problem. You clearly already know that it's possible the girl means dollars and not pesos. Why would you take her to the elevator, without making sure you're both talking the same currency?

[Turgid]

I suppose it boils down to personal preference. I prefer casas. At my age I have passed the stage of spending considerable time with pros. I go, have fun, exit and ultimately retreat to the solace of my room where I do other things that I like. I don't even hangout in the casas where I see so many Americans do. Most times I meet them hanging out, chatting and drinking and when I leave the same guys are there. There are some destinations where I will bring a pro to my room because you will not get them otherwise and that would be Canada and some parts of Asia.

Regarding posting trip reports of specific girls I have found that to be helpful. I don't do it as much as I used to because I've noticed that it is just not done on this board. I do it on FKK boards because everyone else does. I find reports on bad service girls particularly useful.

"Instead of writing stories, or telling everyone how incredible I am, I give advice. " Priceless by JjBee62. I have been tempted to press the ignore button on these guys especially one in particular who has thousands of posts but have not so far, I suppose one has to enjoy the good and suffer the bad as in everything else.

[TriFreak1]

Been lurking for some time now, even tried to pay and join but I'm in the states. I'm in the midst of planning my maiden voyage to Medellin. I was targeting the week around Colombian independence day. Would this be a good or bad time to go? When I lived in Miami I wouldn't miss the Colombian independence day festival they'd have every year always was a blast applying same logic here. I'm fluent in Spanish so no language barriers. In reading the reports I'm not really a casa or strip club type. I plan my mongering to be in Vera Cruz and surrounding areas or FB girls, building a really nice list so far. I want to be closer to the action so can you guys recommend some chica friendly hotels in or around Centro, preferably ones who check ID's at the front and have safes in the rooms, as I plan on bringing them back to my place. For the be careful it's not safe etc I appreciate the concern but I've been to Peru, Thailand and Sousa always to my room never had an issue. I've moved around in some really sketchy place here in the hood and abroad only takes one time but some people can move around in that environment if you grew up in it. Not trying to take unnecessary risk and respect the not so nice areas just not going to keep me fully out of my mining for them little gold nuggets. Thanks in advance for any and all information / comments good or bad. I'm a big boy and welcome another point of view.

[Orgasmico]

In my opinion there is little difference from fucking in a casa (where the overall business model is built around your safety and the client busting a nut) and your own house (here you might know the layout better). Unless you have amazing security or are staying at the mansion where you can leave your money in the open and (almost) not worry, both options present a degree of safety and risk.

Obviously, a casa can also be the testing ground to determine if a chica is even worthy of you bringing back into your personal space. Also, if you bring a casa chica to your place and something happens at least there is a paper trail back to the casa and people that know her. Not saying this is full proof, but it may be better than relying on the totally unknown of SOME internet situations and random street workers.

[Mr Enternational]

In my opinion there is little difference from fucking in a casa (where the overall business model is built around your safety and the client busting a nut) and your own house (here you might know the layout better).

The difference is ambiance and creature comforts. The girl is no different. Casa has cold water in the shower, room may be too hot, bed may not be as comfortable as you want. You pretty much have to decide if controlling those aspects are worth the 100K or whatever difference in price it would be to have a chick come to you. For me it is generally not. I deal with a lot of non-pros that will come over and I can get the romance and comfortable sessions in with them. But if someone is only dealing with hookers I can understand paying the price to get them to come for a more comfortable session.

[WindAngel]

Good common sense advice here, opposed to bragging and blah blah blah.

I'm pretty sure the Secret Service guy wishes he would've just paid up.

Eventually your actions will catch up to you.
Maybe not today, tomorrow or next week, but eventually they will.

Just use common sense.

Put it in a different context but similar situation, if I pick up a girl at Gusto for 300, after sex the girl demands 300 USD and I only want to pay 300 KCOP, are you saying that I have to pay 300 USD to the girl because it is common sense?

[Baudelairemod]

In my opinion there is little difference from fucking in a casa (where the overall business model is built around your safety and the client busting a nut) and your own house (here you might know the layout better). Unless you have amazing security or are staying at the mansion where you can leave your money in the open and (almost) not worry, both options present a degree of safety and risk.

Didn't quite get what the whole pictures argument was about. Are we now saying that unless somebody has pictures, we won't believe him? Surely we're not teenagers anymore who need to have proof of our sexual prowess? Come on guys!

Just take pictures with the camera in your mind and hope you don't get Alzheimer!

[JjBee62]

If you lived in Medellin and not just visited I could take the rebuttal serious. You are just like the others who try and use fear tactics to scare new mongers. Safety is knowing your environment. What does me kicking several girls out have to do with them having cousins, brothers & friends. We all have them, they don't enhance or make the experience better or worse. Back to the topic of safety, disrobing in an unfamiliar environment is always a risk. As for scaring me, I was in centro 17 times in 2018, I'm the last monger to strike fear into through a post. I love all the great post from board members that never provide other members anything but a great story, there's a reason photos are worth a thousand words. Imagine photoprepagos without any photos, all is fair and understood! Pollo negro is out!

I lived in Medellin for 354 consecutive days, which I've stated before. I'm now back in the US, which has nothing to do with the points I made. That time started April 8, 2017 and ended March 28,2018. In 2018 alone, in less than 3 months I was in El Centro at least 75 times. I went there nearly every day, sometimes twice a day. I've been all over El Centro, from El Mirador down to the river. Between late July 2017 and when I left I probably walked 400 miles or more in El Centro. I even rode my bike through El Centro a few times. I've taken a lot of mongers and even a few Colombians and given them tours of El Centro. My last night in Medellin, I spent, until after midnight, 50' below the warzone above El Centro, hanging with some Colombian friends at their house. They all walked with me far enough down the hill to catch a taxi, because taxis won't go there at night. Now are you ready to take the rebuttal serious?

I don't try to scare new mongers. I also don't recommend they do stupid things. Quite the opposite. I've told a lot of guys how to get around in El Centro. I've also told them to find their own comfort zone. If El Centro freaks them out, they can go somewhere else. I don't try to force them to like El Centro, or to do things they aren't comfortable with.

Disrobing in an unfamiliar environment is always a risk? Always? You must be terrified of doctor's offices. For your sake, I hope you never join a gym. Oh the horror!

Disrobing in a casa is safer than disrobing in your own room. Why? Because the casa has to protect the patrons. How long would New Life be around if the girls were robbing the customers? How long would they be in business if they are letting guys in to rob and murder the customers? It's also safer because you've limited your risk. The girl isn't going to steal your laptop, or the 800 k pesos you've got stashed in your room. She's not going to drug you and clean you out. She's not going to pull out a straight razor and try to slash your throat. The only risk you face is that she'll either be lousy in bed, or she'll waste some time and you'll pay an extra $4.

The reason why it matters that every one of these girls has lots of friends and family, is that you're just another gringo. If you bring a girl to your room and then refuse to pay her because you found fault with her, she's not likely to just accept the constructive criticism. If she finds herself stuck, because she had promised the money, you agreed to pay, to someone else, she's going to call someone, crying for help. If she cries loud enough, then someone might decide you need to pay up, one way or another. It happens a few times a year in Medellin. If you're kicking out several girls, because you haven't learned how to pick them, you're eventually going to meet up with a pissed off Colombian.

No gringo ever gets killed in a casa. Gringos either get killed on the street, or in their room.

I'm not saying don't take girls to your room. I'm saying, if you make a deal with a girl, stick to the deal. Don't try to shame her. Don't try to kick her out without paying her. Give her the money and make a note not to call her again. You're out $30? $50? You're the guy who claimed to have unlimited money. Surely you can handle the cost of a meal at a decent US restaurant. If it happens in a casa, don't argue for a refund. Pay the fee and then mention the issue to the manager. Show respect, be polite and it will go a long way.

I don't provide pictures to other mongers, because a picture is worthless. You just proved that in the Bogota thread. You see a couple pictures of girls that are about average and suddenly, you're thinking you need to go to Bogota. Those pictures won't tell you anything about how those girls will respond to you. More importantly, they won't tell you where to find those girls 3 months from now.

Photosprepagos is an ad site. The girls advertising there are looking for customers. Those pictures tell you very little. Hold that picture up to your nose. Does that pussy smell clean? What about the ass? Can that picture handle a real deep throat, or is it just going to take 4 inches? Does that picture fuck like it hasn't had good dick for 3 years, or does the picture just lay there and make fake moaning noises? Was that picture taken last week, or 2 years ago? The pictures are nice to look at. That's all. You're going to have a lot of disappointing experiences if you're choosing based solely on looks, even more if you're going just off of pictures.

The only good thing about pictures is that a lot of people who will never go to Colombia, will pay for a membership so they can see pictures of the girls they'll never fuck.

I don't write many reviews on individual girls. I have no desire to be a pimp. Nobody is paying me to advertise. I'm not getting a discount because 7 mongers hit someone up after I wrote a review. Even if I did, it's next to useless to most guys. Do they smell clean? Did they brush their teeth and put on deodorant? Are they wearing clean clothes? Do they understand the concept of manscaping? Will they treat the girl the way I treat her? Will they look like me? Will they fuck like me? If the answer to all these questions isn't yes, then why would you expect her to fuck like she's with me?

YMMV. Learn it. Accept it.

Instead of writing stories, or telling everyone how incredible I am, I give advice. I answer questions. I direct people to resources that they need. I share with them the knowledge I gained. I don't give them WhatsApp numbers of girls who might want nothing to do with them. I might, in rare cases, give a number for one girl, to one guy, but only after asking the girl if she's interested. It keeps him from wasting her time, her from wasting his time and both of them from griping at me and wasting my time. In other cases, I might recommend a contact to help with a specific thing.

Mostly, I try to tell guys how to make the most of their visit. Not by doing things the way I do them, but by finding the way that works best for them.

I'll repeat one last thing. If you want to talk about all the problems with casas, first go to some casas. Don't be badmouthing some place you've never seen, all because some guy says he had a bad time there.