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  1. #27364
    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock  [View Original Post]
    She was probably Cambodian or Burmese.
    Or maybe the "Thai messages " he sent her were not understandable.

  2. #27363
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Great report and wonderful to see someone new to the scene. So many guys in here are jaded from fucking in Thailand for 10!years that they complain. Others who come less frequently and have a western aesthetic see things differently. I find tons more Asian women attractive than do the jaded locals. So it is not surprising that you being new found the buffet appealing.

    Just enjoy yourself and keep posting! (And if you like Thailand have you done German FKK Or Brazil? Both are quite worthy).
    This is so true, these old guys on this forum always whining and complaining about pussy. Who does that, #weirdos.

  3. #27362

    Trip Report. Days 3 & 4.

    So, after taking the night off on Day 2, slept in for a bit on Day 3. I'm having a couple of suits and pants made for me while I'm here so went over to Soi 15/4 for another fitting. Prices were far cheaper than USA But will have to see how the clothing stands up once I finally get it. Then decided that, since I'm here, I had to at least check out a Thai soapie. Took the baht bus over to Sabai Room. Again, a bit overwhelming for someone from the USA But essentially you get ushered into a room with a long bar at one end, tables to sit at, and the girls in two (or three) tiers on the one side. Ordered a drink and went over the selection which appeared pretty decent. Basic tier was 2000 Baht and next tier up was 2400 Baht. The higher priced tier definitely were slimmer and a bit cuter than the first tier. I had read here what to expect so I wanted to select a lady with more assets above the waist. Took #151 and upstairs we went. I won't bore everyone with the details (the services in Pattaya soapies are well documented) but I certainly enjoyed the experience. From my perspective, if you're going to a Pattaya soapie for an awesome sexual encounter, you are looking for nothing but disappointment. If you're going to enjoy the pampering and the experience, it's probably worth the price. I've read Bangkok soapies are an entirely different animal but yet to experience. The real negative part was the manager's attitude and insistence for a tip. I was like, "Tip for what? Standing here?

    Anyways, took a nap, met up with a friend for dinner and then went back to Walking Street at about 9:30 pm It was a Sunday so a bit slower than the previous night but still packed. Eventually made my way to Tantra. Grabbed a brew and watched 2 changes in the lineup. Did not like the layout of the club (too cramped) and the girls were not to my liking. I prefer a bit of curve and none of that was to be found. The guy next to me pulled out his phone and started to video the girls on stage. The hostess saw him immediately and slapped the phone away. I decided discretion was the better part of valor and headed for the door before security exited him from the premises.

    Stopped into Infinity and again checked out the lineup. I thought it was a bit better than Tantra, but nothing really tickled my fancy. Walked over to Sensations and thought the lineup was poor, compared to the other clubs. Finally, went back over to Sapphire. I will pass along one adage for any newbies. When a Thai gogo dancer says "let's meet up with my friends" after you barfine her, you are in for an expensive and LONG night. I had seen 3-4 girls that met my criteria the night before, but had passed due to over consumption. It was far less crowded on Sunday versus the previous evening. Called over 1 girl for a couple of lady drinks but wasn't feeling a vibe. Saw a stunner from the night before and ordered her a couple of drinks as well. #244 (Ja? Long story short, much better vibe and the look I was going for. 5 K Baht for long-time which is the going rate (I know, everything is negotiable). Barfine and drinks (plus drinking games with the hostesses and mamasan) added up to another 1700 Baht.

    Went over to Lucifer and she asked if she could have a couple of girlfriends meet up with us. Sure, no problem, I thought. Then bottle service. Then more drinking games with the friends and their friends. It was a long night. Great fun and since it's my first time here it was kind of nice to have someone show me around, but a bit pricey. I think the bottle cost with all the mixers when it was said and done was like 5000 Baht. Anyways, I'm on vacation. Then we just had to go over to a gogo in LK Metro for another friend's birthday. By now, the girl I'd barfined was hammered and it's time to start feeding water. Then, motorbike over to a restaurant past Soi Boukhao with her friend. They order dinner. Another 1000 Baht. But, again, I'd never have gone there without a local, the food was really good, and I'm paying a premium for the tour guide. Finally ended up back at my place and the alcohol had taken its toll on her. Within 5 minutes she's out.

    Day 4-4.5.

    Woke up next morning at 9:00 am And she's still out. 12:00 pm Still out. Finally got her up at 3:00 pm Eventually woke her up enough to get Round 1. Looked just as good without the clothes as in them. Responded well and seemed to enjoy. Picked us up some dinner from Ruenthai on Second Road (really good food) for 300 Baht. Had dinner together and she left at around 5:00 pm I was beat and took a short nap. Had another fitting for the pants at the tailor and then responded to the TF girl I'd met on Day 2. Went over to Next Best Bar on Soi 8. Played some pool and some dice game (Jackpot?) with her and mamasan. Total drinks and BF was 1400 Baht. Thai holiday the next day so bar closed at midnight. Went back to hotel and again, she fell asleep shortly thereafter. I did get Round 1 in the morning which was again, really good. Had breakfast together at McHead Restaurant on Second Road (decent English breakfast) for 300 Baht and then had to go back to my hotel to get some work done.

    Overall, soapies are exactly what everyone here has said. I doubt you're going to get anything uncovered, the manager and attendants all have their hands out for tips and aren't bashful, but if you enjoy some pampering, you'll probably think it was worth the money. The going rates for ST and LT posted by BananaBoi for tourists appear to be very accurate. If you're a local or regular I'm sure discounts are there to be had. I did not visit Soi 6 but saw some cuties on Soi 8 so the occasional "diamond in the rough" is still there. Plenty of stunners in the major gogo's for all preferences, whether you like them tall and slim or more hourglass. I have no information to compare from 5 or 10 years ago, but these are just my perceptions as a first-timer. And the food and other costs here are substantially cheaper (than USA Or even Mexico) which made up for the long flight over. One more night and the bus picks me up tomorrow morning.

  4. #27361
    Quote Originally Posted by Dumbass  [View Original Post]
    This is my first time back in about 10 years. I expected rates to change, but was a little surprised that bar fine on Soi 6 was 1500. I found 2 decent beach Road gals for 1500ST.
    I used to hit Pattaya back in 2011-13. Soi 6 used to be 800 baht and BR around 500 depending on the girl. These prices suck. The girls on the 6 are not that good looking and the rooms are shit from memory. For another 600 baht I can get a much better looking girl in Addict Massage Bangkok for an hour. I can get white uni 23 yo girl turning tricks to makes end meet to fuck me for 4,500 baht in Sydney whom I have much more in common with than paying this much for a marginally attractive peasant rice farmer.

  5. #27360

    I will never pay for my whole trip to Patts again

    Let me explain. 95% of my past trips to Patts where extensions of SEA business trips. Any work trips to Hong Kong or Singapore almost always meant a trip to Patts for a long weekend. I decided to take a trip because my buddy is getting married in the Philippines and I helped him book a detour to Patts. So glad he left after 3 days because he ran out of money and made all the newbie mistakes I warned him against. Also for some reason he could not do the exchange rate. I kept saying just drop the zero and divide by 3.

    This is my first time back in about 10 years. I expected rates to change, but was a little surprised that bar fine on Soi 6 was 1500. I found 2 decent beach Road gals for 1500ST. I used to love Soi 7 and Soi 8. Now they are a complete waste of time. Walking street is always fun because of the vibe. Go inside a club or GOGO and the story changes. I saw a few guys in clubs like Miami where the hostesses are very cute, but are not leaving with you. (My buddy found out the hard way after 3 k in lady drinks and 3 hrs of wasted time.) There is no fun for me to spend $100 USD for a cute Thai girl to smile at me and laugh at my jokes and tell me how young I look.

    You can't even sit for 1 min without getting the shit bugged out of you to buy something to drink. I know the deal is to get all your money as fast as possible, but there was a lot more chill attitude 10 years ago. Also going rate is 3 k ST plus 1500 BF. You'll likely spend 1500 in drinks and tips. So that's $200 USD total for about 1 HR in your room. Then she'll ask for tips for motor bike taxi. This is not the Patts I remember.

    I hear the freelance scene is a little better in places like Lucifer. Problem is I am 53 and 2 am bar hopping is not my scene. So if you are like me. Take a late nap and head out at 1 am for club freelancers. Even the damn soapy let me down. The host stole money from my buddy. Never gave him his change back. Also I don't remember "tiered" pricing before. The enhanced girls who stare at their phone most of the time were 3 K. Plus tip.

    Stayed at March Hotel off 2nd Road and Soi 5. Nice hotel but a little far from the action. Basically brand new for 35 USD a night. Each room has dedicated WiFi. Check it out on YouTube.

    Overall I had a pretty good time, but for me, not worth paying for the whole trip. Now that I have adjusted to the new price stucture, every gogo felt like OT in Singapore. I have NEVER left Patts disappointed, until now.

    I wonder if the internet has created a decline worldwide in P4 P services.

  6. #27359
    Quote Originally Posted by RickWock  [View Original Post]
    Along with the falling birth rate is a very high teen pregnancy rate. This means that even when 19-25 year olds wind up hooking in Pattaya, they usually have baby damaged stomachs and saggy tits.
    The birth rate is falling but there is more baby damage. OK.

  7. #27358

    Great Report Out!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jay0940  [View Original Post]
    Would like to thank all of the senior members and those that posted reports on the goings-on here in Pattaya. Especially FLHawk, BananaBoi, Mr. E and others. That made planning my trip far easier and gave me an opportunity of what to expect. I'm trying to list prices as well, but some are in Baht and others in US dollars. I've never travelled to Thailand before, but have been to Tijuana on several occasions. My first impressions after 36 hours in Pattaya are that this scene completely blows Tijuana out of the water. The sheer quantity and quality of girls is a shade overwhelming. Since I've never been here before I'm really not qualified to say whether quality has decreased over the years, but from a newbie's perspective, there are certainly some stunners to be found. And while this is my first trip here, it certainly won't be my last.

    Anyways, flew over on EVA through Taipei. That was the biggest hassle of the trip thus far. Eventually landed in Bangkok and made my way through customs. It might have been coincidence but a large number of Russians coming though at the same time. Had prearranged a bus ride to Pattaya and made it with minutes to spare. Bus cost was 280 Baht. Staying at the LK Residence on LK Metro. It's adequate, but definitely needs an upgrade. Had originally arranged for a room but found there was no separate shower. After nearly killing myself getting out of the tub / European shower, upgraded to a Jr. Suite with a shower. The room is fine for my needs, but certainly has signs of wear (flooring pulling up, outdated fixtures). Biggest problem is they have not upgraded the outlets so only 1 USB port in my room to charge my phone. Room cost was $400 for my 5 nights here. It does have a pool which is small, but serviceable.

    First day got checked in and tried to get a short nap in. I had signed up for TF and upgraded to premium a week before I left. Had arranged for three meetings. Messaged the first through Line and she came right over. 24 years old, sweet and definitely earned her 1000 baht as the long flight had definitely caused performance issues. But she persevered and made sure the task was completed. No kissing, but everything else was on the menu. Walked over to Soi 13/2 for a massage at Happy (I think). Oil massage for 300 baht plus full service. The massage was terrible, but she got the job done at least. Took the night off as I was exhausted from the flight..
    Great report and wonderful to see someone new to the scene. So many guys in here are jaded from fucking in Thailand for 10!years that they complain. Others who come less frequently and have a western aesthetic see things differently. I find tons more Asian women attractive than do the jaded locals. So it is not surprising that you being new found the buffet appealing.

    Just enjoy yourself and keep posting! (And if you like Thailand have you done German FKK Or Brazil? Both are quite worthy).

  8. #27357
    Quote Originally Posted by Breadman  [View Original Post]
    Been having some success getting LINE ID's and then finding out if they are truely freelance or just looking to date. Had an interesting chat with a new girl who was sending back oddly worded english replies with misspellings that google translate would never have given. I then switched my responses to Thai so that I could double check the translation to make sure I was being understood. Her response though was unexpected, she said she wanted my responses in english since it was easier for her to understand. Girl was young and new to Pattaya and working in a bar so I wonder if I was chatting with someone else and not her.
    She was probably Cambodian or Burmese.

  9. #27356
    Quote Originally Posted by Opebo  [View Original Post]
    I haven't reported in ages - hate to add to the gloom. Pattaya providers dwindling to only the old and fat - Thailand's birthrate has fallen to Japanese level, and tiny younger generations mean fewer replacements in sex biz, so the odds are against us. I still have some fun here along Soi Honey or Chaiyaphum, but beach Rd is finished.
    This is totally honest. Anyone with long experience in Pattaya and Thailand will recognize the truth in this statement.

    Along with the falling birth rate is a very high teen pregnancy rate. This means that even when 19-25 year olds wind up hooking in Pattaya, they usually have baby damaged stomachs and saggy tits.

    Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

  10. #27355
    Quote Originally Posted by Zman429  [View Original Post]
    Croc love your posts but my experience is totally different. No begging involved. Of course the hotter the girl the harder to bag but I gave up hunting 10's a long time ago.
    LOL! "Hunting for 10's" in Thailand" you may find that the hunter dies before he can find the prey.

  11. #27354
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay0940  [View Original Post]
    Walked past Skyfall and was ignored by the girls in front confirming the information that it's mostly for Asian customers.
    Don't let the girls in front of a bar be a determinate of how welcome you are in a bar and the talent of girls inside. That Sensations coyote who has stood in front of Sensations for 3 years now doesn't say Hi to anyone, Asians included. If you prefer Farang gogo bars you can check out LK Metro near your hotel. Walk in to a bar that looks interesting to you. It's free to walk in and out of every single bar and soapie anywhere in Pattaya.

  12. #27353
    Quote Originally Posted by Lefeu  [View Original Post]
    I was there in January for a week, and my experience was different. It has been a few years since I stopped picking chicks from gogo clubs. In this recent trip, I had an FL from beach road practically every day, and I was relatively happy with the quality. I picked them up at all times of the day, until 2 am.
    January is a bit busier time of the year. Going back after Songkran, definitely not expecting much again. Not sure how different your experience can be when my quote states plenty of young, thing FLs out there still.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zman429  [View Original Post]
    There out tlll sunrise just got to know where to look.
    Not trying to play Where's Waldo. Beach Road isn't the same as earlier in the decade when I 1st visited though not as bleak as what another person made it out to be.

  13. #27352

    Trip Report. Days 1 & 2.

    Would like to thank all of the senior members and those that posted reports on the goings-on here in Pattaya. Especially FLHawk, BananaBoi, Mr. E and others. That made planning my trip far easier and gave me an opportunity of what to expect. I'm trying to list prices as well, but some are in Baht and others in US dollars. I've never travelled to Thailand before, but have been to Tijuana on several occasions. My first impressions after 36 hours in Pattaya are that this scene completely blows Tijuana out of the water. The sheer quantity and quality of girls is a shade overwhelming. Since I've never been here before I'm really not qualified to say whether quality has decreased over the years, but from a newbie's perspective, there are certainly some stunners to be found. And while this is my first trip here, it certainly won't be my last.

    Anyways, flew over on EVA through Taipei. That was the biggest hassle of the trip thus far. Eventually landed in Bangkok and made my way through customs. It might have been coincidence but a large number of Russians coming though at the same time. Had prearranged a bus ride to Pattaya and made it with minutes to spare. Bus cost was 280 Baht. Staying at the LK Residence on LK Metro. It's adequate, but definitely needs an upgrade. Had originally arranged for a room but found there was no separate shower. After nearly killing myself getting out of the tub / European shower, upgraded to a Jr. Suite with a shower. The room is fine for my needs, but certainly has signs of wear (flooring pulling up, outdated fixtures). Biggest problem is they have not upgraded the outlets so only 1 USB port in my room to charge my phone. Room cost was $400 for my 5 nights here. It does have a pool which is small, but serviceable.

    First day got checked in and tried to get a short nap in. I had signed up for TF and upgraded to premium a week before I left. Had arranged for three meetings. Messaged the first through Line and she came right over. 24 years old, sweet and definitely earned her 1000 baht as the long flight had definitely caused performance issues. But she persevered and made sure the task was completed. No kissing, but everything else was on the menu. Walked over to Soi 13/2 for a massage at Happy (I think). Oil massage for 300 baht plus full service. The massage was terrible, but she got the job done at least. Took the night off as I was exhausted from the flight.

    Day 2 - Arranged for lunch with another TF contact at Noon. Enjoyed lunch and then dessert back in the room. 30 years old and still a nice tight body. Looked a little better before the shower with makeup on but certainly attractive. (Maybe a 6 or 6.5). Same as Day 1 but a little kissing allowed. 1000 Baht. Took a nap to still recover from jet lag and went out with a friend to a seafood place just off of Walking Street. Couldn't believe the fresh crab or pricing for it. Dinner with 2 crabs was about 1200 baht. Walked up and down Walking Street for awhile. The neon and sheer quantity of people can be a bit overwhelming. My friend said that tourism looked a bit down and there were perhaps only 40% of the normal people. I have no idea if that's true but Chinese New Year is ending so maybe a brief lull.

    I had checked out posts here and had a few go-gos on my list, including Palace and Sapphire. Walked past Skyfall and was ignored by the girls in front confirming the information that it's mostly for Asian customers. Walked into Sapphire and got a seat at the stage. Took about an hour to just get my bearings. 12-15 very attractive women swaying on stage that changed up every 30 minutes. From an American perspective, this was way more than we'the ever see in a club. Bought a few lady drinks and chatted but decided not to BF anyone as I was just too tired from travel and earlier activities. Total damage was about 1900 Baht for drinks. Walked out on Walking Street to go home and still plenty of talent on display, but still not jammed.

    Plans for today include finding a tailor to make a suit and heading back to Sapphire and Palace tonight. Hopefully this wasn't too rambling for my first report.

  14. #27351
    Quote Originally Posted by IMembr  [View Original Post]
    There's has been several freelancers on Beach Road, but now it dries up sooner. Midnight to 2 AM would still have some bites out there. Now it seems the pond dries by 9 or 10 PM. Still plenty of young, thin freelancers out there. Never thought of Thais as pretty faces so no comment there.
    There out tlll sunrise just got to know where to look.

  15. #27350
    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    Any online scene, even when relatively good, puts men at a huge disadvantage. Unlike when we're visiting the bars or picking freelancers, picking girls online is basically begging, not choosing.
    Croc love your posts but my experience is totally different. No begging involved. Of course the hotter the girl the harder to bag but I gave up hunting 10's a long time ago.

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