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  1. #13345

    Looks vs. Performance - Which FKK club best meet your standards?

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    I am one of those who esteem attitude above looks. I am happy with an average looker with a great attitude.
    If this is true, why do you insist on visiting Frankurt clubs when (many or even most of) the NRW clubs so clearly have girls with better attitudes (less upselling)? At least for 50 E.

    I agree this is an interesting topic. While the concept of FKK has something unique that separates the scene from the standard brothel / night clubs in the rest of the world, every region and club in Germany often have something unique that separates them from other regions / clubs. Very generally speaking; I would think the Frankfurt Clubs upper hand would be bigger clubs, better facilities, better outdoors, greater selection of girls, overall betterlooking girls (I bet we are all anxiously awaiting Siriojas take on that, yawn), more nudity, and better logistics if landing in Frankfurt. BUT; more upselling is a clear disadvantage in Frankfurt compared to the NRW, while Frankfurt possibly still is better than Artemis in Berlin and the Hamburg clubs in this regard.

    My take is that I want both good looks and good performance (at a standard rate). Good looks come first, but luckily I have broader taste than the really jaded around here. Therefore I can easily feel content among the Top 10 (sometimes even Top 20) best lookers at the bigger Frankfurt clubs. Then secondly comes seeking chemistry / checking attitude among the Top 10 (20) lookers. And then, and only then I take my chances. Goodlooking girls with good performance at standard rate is likely to be repeated, while girls with annoying upselling or only average performance will be avoided. Luckily I still find that most of the goodlooking girls have great performance at a standard rate (in a 1 h session) at the Frankfurt clubs (1h sessions being my preference).

    Every guy is different. But there should be a FKK club (or clubs) out there for everyone. You just need to find the one that is right for you. Hopefully we get a good discussion out of this.

  2. #13344
    Quote Originally Posted by WawaWetWet  [View Original Post]
    Is it that bad? I was thinking to go with 50 and can try different types. Otherwise can only try 1 to 2 if to go with 100 each time.
    More rooms doesn't means better sex.

  3. #13343
    Quote Originally Posted by VishudJb  [View Original Post]
    Go for 100 1 hour. For 50 to get good service you have to be lucky.
    Is it that bad? I was thinking to go with 50 and can try different types. Otherwise can only try 1 to 2 if to go with 100 each time.

  4. #13342
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    I hink there are more than one reason for that. But after a few trips to Asia in the past I also noticed Asians love for blonde hair as opposed to black. And there are certain different cranial types they prefer. But these also differ between for example Koreans and Japanese to some extent too. Two girls in Philippines once told me why I liked 'Korean type girls'. Both were in heavy makeup and had dyed their hair blonde'. They would both look good with black hair too, but they were the prettiest ones. The Korean owned clubs had just handpicked all the prettiest girls around in order for them to work in their clubs just like the Japanese have done in parts of Bangkok. And then they make the girls off limits to non Koreans (Angeles) and non Japanese (bkk).
    Different people have different taste, it is something which is very subjective so I didn't pay much attention. I would pay more attention to the hardware, pricing, timing which are more objective and these are something could be valuable for newbies like myself.

  5. #13341
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Maybe I am just not well informed here, but isn't a drivers lisence a global thing? At least mine can be used in every country in the world. I know there is now a distinction between automatic and manual car drivers lisences, but is there a country specific definition too?
    It is necessary to apply for a special license in order to drive in other countries, which I don't have one with myself. So I will use public transportation instead. Therefore I need to do more research so I don't need to travel around.

  6. #13340

    Euro.

    Quote Originally Posted by WawaWetWet  [View Original Post]
    Thank you. I really want to avoid aggressive type as walking in as the first timer would definitely makes me feel like a sheep walking towards a bunch of wolfs. But I will try to calm myself down and let my mind to do the judgement.

    Are there any rules from the club to restrict auch aggressive approach? For example if it is normally 50 euro charge and find myself being asked for 100, can we ask the club for assistance?

    Any clear definition of what kind of service included in the 50 dollar 30 minutes session?

    Thank you.
    Go for 100 1 hour. For 50 to get good service you have to be lucky.

  7. #13339
    Quote Originally Posted by WawaWetWet  [View Original Post]
    Thank you. I really want to avoid aggressive type as walking in as the first timer would definitely makes me feel like a sheep walking towards a bunch of wolfs. But I will try to calm myself down and let my mind to do the judgement.

    Are there any rules from the club to restrict auch aggressive approach? For example if it is normally 50 euro charge and find myself being asked for 100, can we ask the club for assistance?

    Any clear definition of what kind of service included in the 50 dollar 30 minutes session?

    Thank you.
    Even if you are a first time in FKKs, as long as you are not totally new to mongering world you are probably OK.

    I had mongered in many other countries before my first FKK visit. What is different in FKK is the sheer number of girls, the fact that they are all naked (or mostly naked), and they freely approach you (in some clubs, not all) and ask for a room.

    So, as you said just calm down, take in the scenery but don't jump at the first girl. Take your time. If you feel like it, even lie and tell the girls you have been there many times before.

    You will find that many girls themselves are somewhat new at these clubs, especially the big clubs. There is a good amount of churn in the girls LU. Most of them can't tell who is truly new to the club and who is not. If you look and act cool, they will think you are an old hand and will treat you as such. As in most places in the world, your own demeanor and confidence will decide what kinda service you will receive.

    50 E entitles you to just CBJ and CFS these days. BBBJ, DFK, other services may or may not be included. Up to the girl. Ask her and make it clear you want them. If she refuses, move in to a different girl. Or if the girl is so hot and compelling that you must have her, then ask if she is willing to do 100€ for an hour, BBBJ and DFK included. Many or most girls will agree.

    Unfortunately, there are no rules against aggressive approaches. Depends on what's your definition of aggressive. Asking you multiple times for a room may be aggressive but no rule against it. Just be firm and tell her to beat it.

    Demanding 400€ from you for a room for an hour with no other extras. Well, that is not aggressive, that is a scam. I would take that girl to the front desk if someone pulled it on me.

  8. #13338
    Quote Originally Posted by CaneUppHosAss  [View Original Post]
    If not renting a car and on a first visit, the best option is Hessen. Clubs are bigger and there are hundreds of girls and you can figure out what you want as you go along. Easy public transportation and nearby hotels.

    Downside is that girls can be aggressive if you come across as a first timer but if you look and act cool, do your due diligence: prices etc you will be just fine.

    Good luck.
    Thank you. I really want to avoid aggressive type as walking in as the first timer would definitely makes me feel like a sheep walking towards a bunch of wolfs. But I will try to calm myself down and let my mind to do the judgement.

    Are there any rules from the club to restrict auch aggressive approach? For example if it is normally 50 euro charge and find myself being asked for 100, can we ask the club for assistance?

    Any clear definition of what kind of service included in the 50 dollar 30 minutes session?

    Thank you.

  9. #13337
    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist  [View Original Post]
    Pistons. You are right about cultural preferences. Now I understand why many of my favourites have been labelled as Asian Killers.
    I hink there are more than one reason for that. But after a few trips to Asia in the past I also noticed Asians love for blonde hair as opposed to black. And there are certain different cranial types they prefer. But these also differ between for example Koreans and Japanese to some extent too. Two girls in Philippines once told me why I liked 'Korean type girls'. Both were in heavy makeup and had dyed their hair blonde'. They would both look good with black hair too, but they were the prettiest ones. The Korean owned clubs had just handpicked all the prettiest girls around in order for them to work in their clubs just like the Japanese have done in parts of Bangkok. And then they make the girls off limits to non Koreans (Angeles) and non Japanese (bkk).

  10. #13336
    Quote Originally Posted by Wawawetwet  [View Original Post]
    Oh I prefer slim legs, nice tits and firm butts, I guess I count myself as multicultural. True that everyone has its own taste, I will keep that in mind.

    I don't think I will rent a car as I don't have the license to drive in Germany. Will focus on one to two FKK.

    Will see how things go but thanks very much for comments made here.
    Maybe I am just not well informed here, but isn't a drivers lisence a global thing? At least mine can be used in every country in the world. I know there is now a distinction between automatic and manual car drivers lisences, but is there a country specific definition too?

  11. #13335
    If not renting a car and on a first visit, the best option is Hessen. Clubs are bigger and there are hundreds of girls and you can figure out what you want as you go along. Easy public transportation and nearby hotels.

    Downside is that girls can be aggressive if you come across as a first timer but if you look and act cool, do your due diligence: prices etc you will be just fine.

    Good luck.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wawawetwet  [View Original Post]
    Oh I prefer slim legs, nice tits and firm butts, I guess I count myself as multicultural. True that everyone has its own taste, I will keep that in mind.

    I don't think I will rent a car as I don't have the license to drive in Germany. Will focus on one to two FKK.

    Will see how things go but thanks very much for comments made here.

  12. #13334
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Wawawetwet,

    Maybe half the forum here is Asian. And after awhile you realize that westerners and Asians have a slightly different take on beauty also. Many Asians preferring skinny or slim legs, while westerners care more about tits or shape of butt. Facial beauty preferences are also different for everyone here. And it changes as we age too. So take everything for a grain of salt that you read here regarding optics. And certain posters have personal vendettas against other posters or clubs. So better just scout yourself. For someone new to it, you cannot really go wrong anywhere. But if you do nrw, get a rental car in case you want to switch club and perhaps try to find out when a club has entry discounts (this goes for everywhere).
    Oh I prefer slim legs, nice tits and firm butts, I guess I count myself as multicultural. True that everyone has its own taste, I will keep that in mind.

    I don't think I will rent a car as I don't have the license to drive in Germany. Will focus on one to two FKK.

    Will see how things go but thanks very much for comments made here.

  13. #13333
    Quote Originally Posted by Wawawetwet  [View Original Post]
    ...

    2. I prefer to use my own condom at all time, is it allow to bring in and use our own in FKK clubs?
    ...
    That is one positive aspect of FKKs as opposed to other venues, ie 90% of girls in FKKs will be ok with using your own condom.

  14. #13332
    Pistons. You are right about cultural preferences. Now I understand why many of my favourites have been labelled as Asian Killers

  15. #13331
    Quote Originally Posted by Takedown  [View Original Post]
    I meant that you will see information which is subjective by nature so it would be good to know your source. Some guys prefer optics, some service, some have other criteria. Any review from me will generally be regarding slim girls with pretty faces. You can bet that Optimist will give good service recommendations. Endorsement of a club from Sirioja would be because he found one girl he likes. Some other guys have preferences for specific clubs no one else does, like any recommendation for Oceans.
    Got it, thank you.

    Also would there be any theme for clubs in Frankfurt (Sharks, Mainhattan etc.) from Friday to Sunday? And any discount as well? Because I can't login to any of their website.

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