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02-22-19 03:27 #13205
Posts: 1280Originally Posted by Pistons [View Original Post]
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02-22-19 01:25 #13204
Posts: 6735Originally Posted by McAdonis [View Original Post]
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02-22-19 01:22 #13203
Posts: 1280Right, point was the separation of empathy and action. Also applies with your categorical empathy. Theshold or theroretical, I think we both agree that WGs can feel true empathy.
Originally Posted by McAdonis [View Original Post]
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02-22-19 01:17 #13202
Posts: 6735Originally Posted by Polyamorist [View Original Post]
But I suppose I should add that my 'anecdote' both regarding the 3 different handicapped 'smoke victims', and the 3 other examples I made in the escapism post (the gay guy included) were not anecdotes at all. All six are in fact real flesh and blood stories.
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02-22-19 01:08 #13201
Posts: 6735Originally Posted by Neurosynth [View Original Post]
Sure there are some minor biological differences, some of which is even based on environmental factors. But several people have swayed from gay to straight and vice versa forever. In ancient Greece and rome, this was all normal. Some people even consider it to be 'bi'. Meaning both straight and gay. But you can assume your own definition whenever you pay the most focus on one side of the coin (LOL?) There is allways a combination of environment and genetics. And your comment assumes you know more about my comment than what I posted. And your assumptions throughout your comment puts you straight into the neoliberal box defining category Nick the g talks about.
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02-22-19 00:59 #13200
Posts: 2073Originally Posted by Pistons [View Original Post]
Selling counterfeit, fake items that can result in long-term suffering for the client requires higher degrees of callousness. Examples would be the Chinese companies that sold baby formula with melamine in it. Or again the Madoff scandal.
"Take someone to the cleaners" is an American idiom which means to take all someone's money or possessions in a dishonest or unfair way (Google).
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02-22-19 00:56 #13199
Posts: 2073Originally Posted by Takedown [View Original Post]
One, I do not consider this mother's actions to be cruel, immoral, or criminal, whereas a WG taking a monger to the cleaners is. Whether it is time, money, or energy, there is a limit to how much one can give. Now if the mother were receiving baby food money from the government, but used that money instead to buy designer purses while watching her baby starve, that is a different story. However, the mother who occasionally does not pick up and comfort her crying baby knows that "in the balance" she is treating her baby well, meaning that tomorrow she will spend the entire day with her baby, once she is rested. In the balance she knows that she gives and helps significantly more than she neglects. Can we say the same for a WG--does she give more than she takes from a lovesick monger?
Two, the mother is not actively inflicting pain onto her baby. I characterize this mother's behavior as "momentary" neglect of responsibility, because eight times out of ten, I assume your friend picks up her crying baby. Looking away when someone is suffering is quite different than deliberately and actively causing suffering. In most cases, the latter requires either higher levels of sociopathy or a greater degree of self-deception. The former would be the German populace that failed to intervene (passive) during the Nazi era, the latter would be the SS soldiers who executed (active) Jews as they begged for their life. In both my hypothetical scenarios with the burglar and the scamming WG, the perpetrators had already inflicted significant financial and emotional pain onto their victims, but they simply showed mercy at the final stage of their cruel, immoral, and criminal act.
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02-22-19 00:21 #13198
Posts: 811Originally Posted by Neurosynth [View Original Post]
I find Mr Pistons' anecdote very credible.
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02-21-19 20:57 #13197
Posts: 1160Originally Posted by Pistons [View Original Post]
(1) The notion that someone can "turn gay" let alone *choose* to "turn gay" is not based on facts or science.
(2) Perpetuating such a notion supports sexual bigots who would like to make sexual preference a moral choice rather than something people simply are without any choice about it.
(3) Perpetuating such a notion supports stupid guilt-based attempts to "cure" people who are gay via conversion "therapy. ".
It's a false and hurtful POV that contributes to unfair and needless suffering. That you peddle such nonsense with an assumed air of expertise makes it all the worse.
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02-21-19 19:01 #13196
Posts: 6735I think an important thing we need to keep in mind here is that the girls stay in the clubs almost every day. Every week aside from when going on vacation. Almost without a single exclusion to the norm, when I meet a new girl in a club who just started the job, she is far far more into it than someone who has been in the environment for years or months. Her hormones are just not overused. After 5-10 visits again with the same girl, you start regaining some passion. But then it seems to be more about friendship and security, as opposed to pure heat like on the first 1 or 2 sessions. Maybe I am lucky, but girls new to clubs after just 1-3 days of working are always wet, and to me at least it is easy to make them cum. After awhile they get dry, and need heavy lubrication. I have told some chefs to use more tomatos and other types of food to boost the girls enjoyment, but unless they manage to get that, it is more and more like phallus says.
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02-21-19 18:59 #13195
Posts: 78Originally Posted by NickTheG [View Original Post]
Not to mention, if a man has 2 dicks then he would always be forced to fuck 2 girls at the same or DP a girl. Normal, traditional vaginal sex with one girl might be a difficult thing when the second dick gets in the way! LOL.
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02-21-19 17:54 #13194
Posts: 22449Not interested just by sex.
Originally Posted by Pistons [View Original Post]
Girls say we are all different, for sure I m very different from Asians for girls, I know my eyes are very different about girls looks and behavior, behavior is the most important for me, even I need beauty, I left girls I drove weekly so many kilometers for and they came straight to me when they saw me, but new behavior made me run away, no more woman, just prostitute, not anymore interesting, don t worth anymore to pay for, when I paid 1500/2000 for one on some months. On the other hand, I drove from Luxemburg to LR just to explain with a girl, not even for sex, just because I didn't want she believe bullshits. She understood by herself even before I explained, nice chat with her, I like this kind of girl. Also look forward to meet again one who stopped to work for few hours at 1 pm when I told her I didn't want to repeat because she finished too exhausted our room on previous night, so I was afraid to hurt her. I will have to explain with her.
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02-21-19 17:50 #13193
Posts: 541Concentrated risk
One of the recent trends in American and other western societies is the idea that men and women lay 100% of their emotional deck of cards at the feet of the partner. Especially men. In the past, and in many cultures such as the older Greeks, Asian and judaism, the men for strong strong social bonds independent of their relationships. This ancient system builds very real redundancy. Taking the box analogy, it creates many good quality boxes that may not include a pretty young thing (neither pretty or young for very long) , but is real and life sustaining. As Nick the G says, the other boxes are bought, illusionary and transient, and the owners work hard to make it leak proof. Throwing seed in those boxes (at least the psychological type) is mostly wasted on barren ground. Some would say WG's are close to a warm play toy for masturbation, though I disagree. But it is definitely not the real thing given for free and from the heart. Men can disassociate sex from emotions far better than women. Some men confuse the two. The girl with her personal box analogy was spot on and remarkably wise. A way better path for men is to build wide and deep relationships with people where the wildcard of sex is out of the equation. Not glitzy clubs anyone with a fistful of euros is an instant friend and instantly ejected once the cash is gone.
I often wonder what it would be like to be in a WG's skin. How would I feel if some wrinkly old hag jammed her tongue down my throat or going down on her grey pubes and wrinkly saddle bag thighs? Would I feel affectionate to her? How would I feel with a bunch of leering cougars twice my age ogling me like a piece of prime beef cut into imaginary in sections? What if I had to parade in speedos or a g-string as well ? And then smile and act fascinated for hours on end with some old woman who works in a corporate bunker and tells me about her messed up life as her personal confessor ? And in a second language ? Yes, women do have a peacock gene to show off and be pretty, but they also like to control that to people they are attracted to. Looking around a FKK at the majority of mongers is far from a male beauty contest. The contrast between the girls and the men in attractiveness is pretty stark for the most part.
Comparmentalization. Disassociation- of identity comes with significant costs of self-esteem and anxiety and is not free, save for psychopaths where it is just one of several masks in a box that is an endless vaccum. Know yourself, train the brain to spot and kill dangerous cravings and discontent over what the past should have been or what might happen (the Bhuddist way) and everything becomes calm. It's mostly madness to think a girl selling herself for cash to men and having to act that she hangs on every often drunken word and loves that flabby body is going to feel a bloom of romance. We have fun, but the girls are WORKING. If they won the lottery or inheritance they would be instantly gone in a puff of smoke. I often wonder what it would be like to be in their skin. How would I feel if some wrinkly old hag jammed her tongue down my throat or going down on her grey pubes and wrinkly saddle bag thighs? Would I feel affectionate to her? Would her handbag reluctantly opened and cash dispensed transform any of the above?
We are meeting for a bit of fun for ourselves, FKK's and brothels are a consensual movie set between willing actors, we are the producers and directors of sorts and the girls are working. They may derive some satisfaction over their effect on us as a sort of feminine power versus our wanting our script to play out, but in the end it comes down to what psychological health we have off the movie set and in our heads, a sand castle on a beach or a brick house on the hill. We sure are not going to find that in shopping malls, the internet or FKK's.
Now, back to scoring the hottest young actresses for some harmless and consensual fun !
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02-21-19 15:34 #13192
Posts: 970Originally Posted by Optimist [View Original Post]
Or perhaps she was thinking like Mr Ho. Why would she want to have a relationship with a man who went to prostitutes and paid them for sex. Her honest approach that she will not allow men from her professional job to cross into her personal life may seem harsh or mechanical. Of course, I've never had the problem where every prostitute I slept with automatically forgot all other men, past and future, because I'm so amazing.
It gets comical when the posters here feel they have to analyze every post by anyone except their two friends and prove their own superiority. Please, in responding, use something other than Machiavellian or Orwellian comparisons. How some people write here seems as though they are employing these beliefs to pump their egos up on a sex forum. Let's find some new idols that have sexual relevance: Freud, Shakespeare, Chaucer. Anybody but please stop with the continual recycling. Anyone who cared to know about Machiavellianism or Orwellian theories has already looked them up. Those who don't care to know are probably the same ones that skip your writings along with skipping the writings by the men who have sexual super powers they use to seduce a prostitute and bang her so hard she has to take the night off afterwards.
I challenge you to think outside the "Box" and to come up with something new. My new campaign motto is Make Sauna Clubs Great Again.
My last challenge is for someone who has been to a FKK to write about your experiences. Hiking on nature trails, participating in sports activities, sitting around the picnic tables eating lunch while everyone is nude. This is what FKK is about. Not visiting a sex club.
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02-21-19 12:42 #13191
Posts: 4343Originally Posted by NickTheG [View Original Post]