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  1. #43930
    Quote Originally Posted by Siamsin  [View Original Post]
    Guys are spending 5 - 10 k at GoGo bars for ST, but I guess that's acceptable in your books.
    I don't see how that's sustainable economically. Just about anywhere in the world is cheaper than that.

    I've just got here in Bangkok and no joy for the 1st 2 nights. I'm not paying these prices. I'm working the thaifriendly and thaicupid sites, but so far all the 20 somethings seem to be looking for falang millionaires. And just looking around Bangkok its as rich as any 1st world city. A square mile of huge skyscraper palatial building. I chatted to some of the local expat with 5+ years expertise and they say just socialise with as many girls as possible then after a month some of them will use you for a revenge fuck or sex for comfort when they feel down. I'm not staying here long enough for that + you end up spending more money on drinks over a month as you would as a 5000 baht ST. So I don't see it as clever way to play the system.

    All in all my 1st impression here is Bangkok for western mongers is a dead man walking. I predict even the gullable Koreans and Japs who spend 5000 baht on drinks in the gogo bars will wise up in the next few years. Soi Cowboy wasn't that busy this Friday even though its supposed to be high season. Its propped by the memory of the good times 30 years ago and youtube vids that show women but don't tell the huge prices.

    I won't give up yet, my hotel is booked for a week. Next attempt is to as ask the scooter drivers where the Thai locals go to mong, but I suspect it'll yield 40 yo + women. For that I think I can just pick them up on Thai friendly, or in my home country.

    I expect I'll be going to Pattaya next week.

    Any help \ advice please for a luckless cheap monger stuck in a millionaire's city?

  2. #43929

    Thermae bar FL.

    Popped into Thermae bar around 10.30 pm Mon night with a wingman. Place was packed as usual. At least 100 girls with the majority of punters being Koreans and Japanese. Directed to buy a drink upon entry. Prices here much cheaper than the gogo bars and after first drink, under no obligation to buy another. Took a quick circuit and no-one in particular stood out for me where I instantly had to have her. Stood in the central area and enjoyed the sight of my wingman going around trying his luck.

    Around 11 pm, my wingman indicated he's struck a deal and was going off for a ST. Rather than waiting around for him, I quickly scanned room to see available options. One short busty girl who'd been standing in my eyeline for around 20 minutes started to grow on me although for that period, she seemed only busy on her smartphone and didn't really try to make eye contact or smile at the punters walking around. Went over and asked if she wanted to go with me. Responded yes (note: I'm foreign born Chinese) and quoted me 3 k for ST. Offered 2.5 k and confirmed she was OK with BBBJ & CIM which was accepted. She led the way and walked upstairs to Raumchitt Plaza to get short time room (700 for 2 hrs).

    Up in the room, told me she was 21 (doesn't look older than 23) and had been working in Bangkok for 3 years. She undressed to reveal a firm body (not too slim) with a really well done pair of quite natural looking soft implants of a the cup size. Then the tattoos were revealed. Largish one her back, one on her thigh which she said was her name (Ratikha?) and a quote just above her boobs ("fall down seven, stand up eight time" I joked with her and said did a Japanese customer pay for that tattoo as that proverb originates from Japan but she said no special reason. At this point, I thought hey maybe I'm going to get an experienced PSE experience given she's ex gogo girl (claimed she used to work in Soi Cowboy 2).

    Showered together. Proceeded to bed where she starts with some licking of my nipples and body area before BBBJ which was decent but nothing special. She provided the condom, so capped off and went thru a few positions but she wasn't really responsive and actually appeared quite shy for an ex gogo girl. After about 15 minutes of this, I took the condom off and straddled her boobs and gave her a titty fuck, some more BBBJ and then directed her to give me a HJ whilst I was still straddling her. Just before cumming, I asked her to open her mouth, which she did and I shot my load partly into her mouth although majority of it around her neck.

    Session lasted just over an hour. Because she was compliant with the CIM, I gave her 3 k (and partly because I had no change). She said she went freelance because at Cowboy 2, she sometimes had no customer or only lady drinks (maybe this is why? I popped into Thermae again on Wed night around 10 pm and on my first circuit saw her there again but she quickly got picked up as she was gone by the time I did my second circuit about 10 minutes later. I seriously thought about a repeat as I actually liked her face and her young body was fit but she seemed a little shy or certainly not as responsive but thinking she'd be more comfortable second time, things would improve.

  3. #43928

    Trip Report. No GoGo or Clubs. Day 8.

    Day 8.

    With the change of plans with the girl from Uthai Thani, I was now about to fly solo on an outdoor adventure activity I had booked for. This certainly wasn't what I had hoped for. The destination was beyond the outskirts of Bangkok and pretty much away from any action. I was bummed but figured this is Thailand, anything is possible. Sent out messages to contacts on Line that would have the time to join me. It was going to be an overnight affair, and then I'd head to Pattaya the next day.

    With my checkout countdown notching away, I packed up, neatened up and said goodbye to a most wonderful apartment and a bed that so much of sin was committed on. As I headed for breakfast at Subway suitcase in tow, I get a reply from a freelancer that I never met but had chatted to for a few days. We were supposed to meetup during my stay, but our free times were never ensync. She was also a TF peddler, and I have seen a report about her on the board previously. Anyway, I told her where I planned to go, and what I was going to do there. She seemed interested in joining me but was also skeptical as it was an overnight trip and we had never met. With my grab taxi arriving soon and me finishing up breakfast, I asked her again and she said okay, but wanted to know how much I'll pay her. I said it's her call, it's going to be overnight and I'll arrange for her to be dropped off the next day. She said okay, she'll join me for 3000 thb, I agreed and said let the adventure begin. Now this is what I love about Thailand, shit like this just doesn't happen anywhere else in the world.

    Grab arrives and we go to fetch her. There standing next to Starbucks is this short, slim, fair and cute little doll awaiting me. She jumps in and we head off. It was a GFE from the word go, she spoke good English, was very warm and friendly, very touchy feely too. Get to the destination and she was just great, behaved just like a GF would and joined in on some of the outdoor activities. I had a great sporting activity and it felt good to have someone to share it with. After dinner we headed to the accommodation which was rustic but beautiful. Showered and hit the sheets. She had a lovely body, small tits, shaved twat and beautiful unblemished ass. She definitely took care of herself as her pussy tasted and smelled great. I spent close to an hour DATY, the longest muff diving session on my trip. She was delicious. I'm not much of an ass eater, but her cute, tiny, brown star was way too tempting and got the lick down and tongue fucking too. Her BJ skills were good, she knew what she was doing. The sex was very passionate with plenty of DFK all the time. She was very vocal with plenty of moans throughout. Being in a wooden cabin her noises weren't very contained, I kept noticing the chaps from the neighbouring unit flashing torches in our direction trying to figure out wtf was going on, hehe. It was a long and ultra lustful session that finally ended in a CIM. After a full day of activities, we were both beat and fell asleep soon enough. In the morning feeling lazy with some muscular fatigue, didn't fuck, but got a morning glory mouth job with another CIM, great way to start the day. We packed up and our grab driver from the day before fetched us and decided to drop me off in Pattaya first, so spent a bit more time with her, before we parted ways at my Pattaya hotel. Gave her an extra 1000 thb plus a bit more than the Grab fare and toll fees. I was definitely going to repeat with her, she's still pissed off with me for not seeing her when I got back to BKK.

    Just as a side note, I recall sending this girl messages nearly a year ago, while I was in BKK on a business trip. At that time she had a different username and info on her profile. At that stage being new to TF, I was under the impression that she was an ordinary girl looking for a relationship, but her replies were very short and she refused to divulge her Line ID. It was only when I saw a post about her on ISG that I realised that most girls on TF are in fact freelancers, or are open to receiving money for a 1 night stand if you play your cards right, bar a few girls who actually post an entire essay on their profiles talking about love and a relationship. With that in mind, I then always sent selected girls messages on TF with a notion that they're freelancers and have had success in doing so.

    Didn't get any action shots, but here's a couple of her pics from the trip.
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  4. #43927

    GoGo Girl from Crazy House.

    Went to Soi Cowboy as I had read, that in Crazy House there are still many fully nude dancers. And true. Really many fully nudes and many really good looking ones. I had several beers and watched for hours. As I am a Westener at his 50 ties I watched that the younger Japanese and Korean guys were preferred a little. Lucky them. However was approached by some good looking ones. Watched an absolute stunner. Number 137. But did not dare to speak to her. After Chang Number 4 I was finally ready, however she did not appear any more at the dancing area.

    So I went with another slim girl to a hotel across the road. 3000 for the girl and 700 Bar Fune, which I both had to handover to the Mammasan. The hotel was 300 Baht.

    The girl, whose name I had asked for, but forgotten 10 minutes later, was young and nice but not and absolute stunner.

    She always tried to refuse sex a little with the argument „big, big". However mine is not too big. So I took her Gel and prepared her pussy slowly with first 1 then a 2nd finger. So finally it worked fine. Session was ok. But I think it was not more than 30-45 minutes in the room. And of course, she asked for tipping her taxi, when leaving.

    On my way home to hotel on Sukhumvit road I saw about 30-40 street hookers, some also quite nice dressed and good looking.

    I asked one of them and she said 2000 and she would know room for 300. As soon as I explained I will go to bed alone, she offered 1500 Baht.

    Maybe at the end this is best option. However I could not check it out anymore. Too tired and also drunk to much overall.

  5. #43926
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunlover2  [View Original Post]
    The Nana FL / SW scene has extended down soi 4 to basically the Novotel Ibis hotels on the left, and the large 7-11 on the right. Lots of choices of all stripes on Friday night. Multiple acceptable choices IMO. I guess my intel would be don't stop at the NPL, keep going down the street past the Rajah plaza for more selection.

    There were actually two MIddle Eastern ladies in the row in front of Hillary 1 dressed in full head-to-toe black, with only their heavily made up faces showing. At first I wondered if they were really working, but they stood in with the rest of the FL's and were not shy in engaging with passers by. Their faces were ok and I was curious for the novelty, but not tempted.

    I am used to seeing the heavier set M. E. Gals near the Grace hotel, but they are wearing western garb. Maybe the all-black covered dress was just a marketing ploy to stand out.

    SL.
    Extended it has been, but the quality isn't there, although on Friday night there was a rack of cute young deaf ones.

  6. #43925
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunlover2  [View Original Post]
    There were actually two MIddle Eastern ladies in the row in front of Hillary 1 dressed in full head-to-toe black, with only their heavily made up faces showing. At first I wondered if they were really working, but they stood in with the rest of the FL's and were not shy in engaging with passers by. Their faces were ok and I was curious for the novelty, but not tempted.

    I am used to seeing the heavier set M. E. Gals near the Grace hotel, but they are wearing western garb. Maybe the all-black covered dress was just a marketing ploy to stand out.

    SL.
    They probably are not Arab but from Kazakhstan or near by countries. I have seen as many as 5, some with regular clothes on but with same type of makeup.

    That area is like the Bangkok international street scene. There is always a group of African girls sitting in the bar across street. Some Viets are near Nana City Hotel.

  7. #43924

    Mongering during election times in March.

    Is it advisable to travel in last week of March to Bangkok or Phuket for mongering? Since elections are declared on March 24, will there be a crackdown on mongering during that time?

  8. #43923
    The Nana FL / SW scene has extended down soi 4 to basically the Novotel Ibis hotels on the left, and the large 7-11 on the right. Lots of choices of all stripes on Friday night. Multiple acceptable choices IMO. I guess my intel would be don't stop at the NPL, keep going down the street past the Rajah plaza for more selection.

    There were actually two MIddle Eastern ladies in the row in front of Hillary 1 dressed in full head-to-toe black, with only their heavily made up faces showing. At first I wondered if they were really working, but they stood in with the rest of the FL's and were not shy in engaging with passers by. Their faces were ok and I was curious for the novelty, but not tempted.

    I am used to seeing the heavier set M. E. Gals near the Grace hotel, but they are wearing western garb. Maybe the all-black covered dress was just a marketing ploy to stand out.

    SL.

  9. #43922
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    None of us should judge what any poster here posts. That is up to the Admin. There is a Report Post button if board rules are broken and a Block User option if you don't like what the poster has to say.
    I agree with this sentiment, BB, but I take it the other direction. I feel everyone can judge anything on ISG, but that judgment should not dissuade anyone from posting. I plan to begin a stream of posts in a couple of weeks, and I predict a slew of crap to be hurled my way. That's just how it is when I post: some people love it, and some people hate it. And believe me, they all tell me. But it's everyone's right to voice objections, and Steve9696, or whoever, expressed an opinion that I am sure is shared by some (not all) on ISG. But hopefully it won't dissuade Siamsin from posting, and I don't think that was ever Steve9696's intention (to muzzle anyone).

    My own take on the Siamsin situation was that he did fine. A lot of guys would have banged the lady and then split, but he split before he took her supposed virginity*. So he could have been a lot worse. But I must say, the tenor of his post was decidedly different from his other posts. He seemed kind of burnt out, rough around the edges, almost desperate. Maybe that contributed to the impression of him doing wrong by the girl. But in the end, I think Siamsin's posts are lucid, revealing, and fresh, so keep them coming sir.

    * * * * * * * *.

    *Psst: she was no virgin. . . Who has ever heard of a Thai virgin traveling to the big city to meet a brown man from Africa to honorably offer up her cherry? And to then fall in love with him from chatting on Line? I'm sure Brother Siamsin has one heck of a Mac Daddy vibe, but Puh-leeze.

  10. #43921
    Quote Originally Posted by IMembr  [View Original Post]
    There's 2 sides to this. I don't disagree with what you're saying just that it's only half the truth. The guy is also getting suckered in each of his daily trip reports. Spending 4000 b for short time is laughable given that it can be had at half price or less. Ending the session with a hand job is a disappointment too. That may be due to sexual inexperience though who knows. Stolen moment pictures to impress on the internet? LOL! Sending money to an out of town girl then listening to pleas about love and what is pretty much the sick buffalo story is a noob move. What is being displayed here is a perfect storm of freelancers hustling overcharging which the forum complains about and a guy who's a 2 week millennial millionaire who over pays which the forum complains about. Thailand has become too expensive (because pay 4 k short time)! The girls don't do as much (because handjob & sick buffalo)!
    Okay, I guess being mid 30's, a recent board poster and not living in Thailand may come across as inexperienced. But let's just lay some facts out, ST at a decent GoGo bar starts at around 3000 thb, Barfine 1000 thb, drinks maybe 1000 thb. Adds up to 5000 thb on my calculator, excluding taxi fares and tips. Guys are spending 5 - 10 k at GoGo bars for ST, but I guess that's acceptable in your books.

    Quote Originally Posted by IMembr  [View Original Post]
    Spending 4000 b for short time is laughable given that it can be had at half price or less. Thailand has become too expensive (because pay 4 k short time)!
    You must be tripping on the wrong Trip reports mate, let's break it down:

    Day 1 - 3750 Danil. Smooci. Please explain to me how you can get a Smooci call out at half the price or even 2 k?

    Day 2 - 3000 Thermae girl. Again I'd love to know how you'd get a decent Thermae chick at 2000? From what I gather the going rate is 2500 on average, especially for Asians.

    Day 3 - 3300 Kapoo Girl 1 - Kapoo clubs have set pricing, but an experienced chap like you already knows that.

    Day 4 - 3000 Kapoo Girl 2 ".

    Day 5 - 3000 Dew. TF girl, nobody has posted or PM'd me about her being a Freelancer or even met her. Quite the contrary actually, as I've received messages asking for her details.

    Day 6 - 1000 Ana. Again, not a freelancer and definitely an incredible deal at 1000 taxi fare only, but I'm sure you would've given her 300 bht for her taxi fare, being the gentleman that you are.

    Day 7 - 2200 Orange. Spa jobby ST, probably what you're use to.

    Hmmm. So from the above ST experiences, I certainly can't see any 4 K transactions. But please point it out to me when you can.

    Quote Originally Posted by IMembr  [View Original Post]
    Ending the session with a hand job is a disappointment too.
    This is the second time you mentioned this. The first time I let it slide, so let me clear things up for you and break it down.

    The fact that you mentioned this leaves me under the impression that you haven't fucked a girl long enough or hard enough to the extent that her pussy has no traction (feeling on your dick) especially after she has climaxed multiple times and her pussy is soaked that there's absolutely no feeling on your dick. This happens to me a lot. The Thermae girl that you point out that I apparently spent 4000 thb on and ended up coming with a HJ, was actually tight initially. But after the pounding she took for over an hour, I assure you that the grip on her right hand had far more tension and pressure than her vagina at that stage, and was easier for me to get off, considering I was also tired and drenched in perspiration from all the hammering. Hope that clears things up for you. Oh and BTW, for 3000 thb, I'd take an hour of solid sex that ends in a HJ over a 2 minute CIP or CIM any day. But that's just me, but you should too, being the frugal chap that you are.

    Quote Originally Posted by IMembr  [View Original Post]
    Stolen moment pictures to impress on the internet? LOL!
    If you recall, I did ask the board members if it was acceptable to post the photos on my initial report. After advice from members to blur / block out the faces, most were happy for me to continue. You need to remember that this website does have running costs and as much as it's free to signup and view threads, the financial model depends on users paying a subscription for the added benefit of viewing uploaded photos posted by members. I can't be sure, but I would like to think that some of my reports have actually converted free members to subscription members, just to view some of the "Stolen moment pictures" I uploaded. I could easily have written reports without the photos, but don't you think it adds more validity to my reports?

    Quote Originally Posted by IMembr  [View Original Post]
    Sending money to an out of town girl then listening to pleas about love and what is pretty much the sick buffalo story is a noob move.
    100% correct, I can't fault you there, it was certainly a naive and costly experience on my part. Just remember that I posted this intentionally, even though I knew I'd basically look like an idiot who paid a girl money for no sex. Reason being? My post may stop other would-be guys from making the same mistake I did. Aside from spending the money, the ramifications of banging a virgin sometimes outweighs the fantasy. If anything, this board is for educational purposes, guys not only view what to do or where to go, but also what not to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by IMembr  [View Original Post]
    a guy who's a 2 week millennial millionaire
    That's the second time you have snidely remarked about me being a millennial. Do you even know the definition of a millennial? Read this post and my first, I'm mid 30's mate, work it out!

  11. #43920
    None of us should judge what any poster here posts. That is up to the Admin. There is a Report Post button if board rules are broken and a Block User option if you don't like what the poster has to say.

  12. #43919
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I think SiamSin just has a way of saying things in a more humorous way in keeping with how many men talk about these things among themselves but not necessarily exactly the way he said it to the lady in person. "luring a virgin from miles away"? Being involved quite a bit with dating sites like ThaiFriendly and ThaiCupid, I can assure you there are very, very few, maybe NO truly "innocent" Thai girls on those sites. I mean "innocent" in the same way we think of the word in the West.

    I realize you did not use the word "innocent", but it seems to have been implied that she was an "innocent", unknowing virgin. Here's the thing; NO truly "innocent" Thai girl would ever go online to present herself in a virtual line up and then reply and respond to the idea of meeting a total stranger (a farang!), especially if there was the probability of sex happening. From a Thai male's point of view, that is less than a half step away from being a stone cold prostitute. Most "innocent" Thai girls have likely not even been left alone with a boy old enough to fuck them without grandma monitoring the situation nearby. We are a bit misled about the concept of "innocence" based on the girls we meet in and around the red light districts of Bangkok and Pattaya. Truly "innocent" Thai girls would never even pass through either of those places unless it was with their family.
    There's 2 sides to this. I don't disagree with what you're saying just that it's only half the truth. The guy is also getting suckered in each of his daily trip reports. Spending 4000 b for short time is laughable given that it can be had at half price or less. Ending the session with a hand job is a disappointment too. That may be due to sexual inexperience though who knows. Stolen moment pictures to impress on the internet? LOL! Sending money to an out of town girl then listening to pleas about love and what is pretty much the sick buffalo story is a noob move. What is being displayed here is a perfect storm of freelancers hustling overcharging which the forum complains about and a guy who's a 2 week millennial millionaire who over pays which the forum complains about. Thailand has become too expensive (because pay 4 k short time)! The girls don't do as much (because handjob & sick buffalo)!

  13. #43918
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Wow. I try not to judge. I really do. But first the face pics. Then the stolen moment pics. Now luring a virgin from miles away. You pick a girl and then send her away telling her she is too ugly. Take a look at the shit you post. It is horrifying. These girls are human beings.
    Well Thailand will show how a person really is when they are a 2 week millionaire millennial. Without knowing it, he's getting ripped off at 4000 b / night. Most of these freelancers have regularly and many put on a good performance given they are desensitized to the act itself which he hasn't figured out. He sends money then has to hear the love and sick buffalo story because a girl is a "virgin"; newsflash: she's not. Reality will set in when he will have to go home because he has to live his "dream" in Thailand. The trip reports aren't all bad though. Some good intel there if you weed out all the bro talk.

  14. #43917
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I think SiamSin just has a way of saying things in a more humorous way in keeping with how many men talk about these things among themselves but not necessarily exactly the way he said it to the lady in person. "luring a virgin from miles away"? Being involved quite a bit with dating sites like ThaiFriendly and ThaiCupid, I can assure you there are very, very few, maybe NO truly "innocent" Thai girls on those sites. I mean "innocent" in the same way we think of the word in the West.

    I realize you did not use the word "innocent", but it seems to have been implied that she was an "innocent", unknowing virgin. Here's the thing; NO truly "innocent" Thai girl would ever go online to present herself in a virtual line up and then reply and respond to the idea of meeting a total stranger (a farang!), especially if there was the probability of sex happening. From a Thai male's point of view, that is less than a half step away from being a stone cold prostitute. Most "innocent" Thai girls have likely not even been left alone with a boy old enough to fuck them without grandma monitoring the situation nearby. We are a bit misled about the concept of "innocence" based on the girls we meet in and around the red light districts of Bangkok and Pattaya. Truly "innocent" Thai girls would never even pass through either of those places unless it was with their family..
    So true. Not innocent at all. Probably the one who travelled from miles away is a ladyboy. Believe it happens.

  15. #43916
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I think SiamSin just has a way of saying things in a more humorous way in keeping with how many men talk about these things among themselves but not necessarily exactly the way he said it to the lady in person. "luring a virgin from miles away"? Being involved quite a bit with dating sites like ThaiFriendly and ThaiCupid, I can assure you there are very, very few, maybe NO truly "innocent" Thai girls on those sites. I mean "innocent" in the same way we think of the word in the West.

    I realize you did not use the word "innocent", but it seems to have been implied that she was an "innocent", unknowing virgin. Here's the thing; NO truly "innocent" Thai girl would ever go online to present herself in a virtual line up and then reply and respond to the idea of meeting a total stranger (a farang!), especially if there was the probability of sex happening. From a Thai male's point of view, that is less than a half step away from being a stone cold prostitute. Most "innocent" Thai girls have likely not even been left alone with a boy old enough to fuck them without grandma monitoring the situation nearby. We are a bit misled about the concept of "innocence" based on the girls we meet in and around the red light districts of Bangkok and Pattaya. Truly "innocent" Thai girls would never even pass through either of those places unless it was with their family.
    I agree 100% with you EihTooms. These girls are, most of the time, not as they are trying to present themselves. I cannot count the number of girls I've met who told me that they had never been with a foreigner before me only to realize later that they had a lot of male foreigners in their contact.

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