Kyiv

[Power550]

If your budget is truely $500 there are better destinations, for high Quality girls. Difficult for Foreign Guys to get anything above a 6 in Kiev, money will only help.

Also, August is a bad time to travel to Kiev, most the girls will be on holidays.

I have a few weeks off in August, I am really only into white women. Where would you recommend for a two week sponsor situation?

I would need the place to be interesting on its own, not just for the women.

[PhotoSlider]

Trust me our Delhiite forum is made to help each other if you guys visit India anytime soon let's forget about me but other member s too will give you the spice of India if you have interest in North Indian girls.

Indian ladies are great indeed. I doubt though that anybody from this Forum would go to Delhi instead of Kiev any time soon. No offense meant.

[Misterxxx]

I am going to be in Kiev for two week in August and thought I was going to use agency girls / websites / clubs to get different women.

I was planning on spending 500 us on girls. I am thinking now if I could find a stunner (8+) just to giver her the 500 a day to be with me the entire time.

This would save time having to look for them / having to turn away bait and switches.

Thoughts on this and how would you all recommend finding someone?

August is not the best time to look for a girl in Kiev. Holiday season. The "stunners" will certainly have another sponsor. Or do you think they sit around all month waiting for you? Minimum they go to Odessa. To the sea.

On the other hand, you are pushing up the prices with your offer. If you are looking for a woman through sites like Mamba, even the average "5" will present itself as a "stunner". And in the end, the other men hear the following sentences: "I have been offered 500 a day, 200 are not enough anymore, and 100 are considered as a nasty joke. " Unfortunately, that's the attitude Ukrainians have. At least until they really have no money and are in need. This usually happens at Christmas time and in the dead season in winter.

[DramaFree11]

I am going to be in Kiev for two week in August and thought I was going to use agency girls / websites / clubs to get different women.

I was planning on spending 500 us on girls. I am thinking now if I could find a stunner (8+) just to giver her the 500 a day to be with me the entire time.

This would save time having to look for them / having to turn away bait and switches.

Thoughts on this and how would you all recommend finding someone?

If your budget is truely $500 there are better destinations, for high Quality girls. Difficult for Foreign Guys to get anything above a 6 in Kiev, money will only help.

Also, August is a bad time to travel to Kiev, most the girls will be on holidays.

[Member #4722]

I am going to be in Kiev for two week in August and thought I was going to use agency girls / websites / clubs to get different women.

I was planning on spending 500 us on girls. I am thinking now if I could find a stunner (8+) just to giver her the 500 a day to be with me the entire time.

This would save time having to look for them / having to turn away bait and switches.

Thoughts on this and how would you all recommend finding someone?

Finding a hot girl in Kiev always takes some work but if you do find one start negotiating at way less than 500 no wonder the girls here are getting spoiled.

[BangNibiru]

Hello brothers,

Is there any gentlemen like to help me how do go about safe and unforgettable GFE experience in Kiev for a day or two. Because I will be visiting for five days only. Also for kievlady site how do I contact a women as contact are not real I called upon them. May be if I can get a simple way like direct independent numbers of girls from you guys will be highly appreciable.

Trust me our Delhiite forum is made to help each other if you guys visit India anytime soon let's forget about me but other member s too will give you the spice of India if you have interest in North Indian girls.

Thank you

Validating trustworthiness of Ukrainian websites pictures should never be an objective of a monger in Kiev.

I do the opposite. Dispatcher gives me the pic, name, hourly rate, and parameters of the girl. I go to kievlady.com and search to get more pictures, if she is there, and check if there is a substantial markup. So far I found 8 beauties. Never had a fake picture, but again, that is beyond the point.

Kievlady.com has almost 10 thousand girls, some are not even present. Indeed, ordering from website frequently leads to bait and switch. But how can one reliably estimate the percentage of fake pic?

It is one thing to hate Kiev, and provide opinionated perception of reality without visiting the city for years. It is another to try giving statistically representative estimate based on field research.

GIA / KEC has 100% real pictures. Some even have real faces. IMHO Kievlady has at least 10-20% of real photos, if not more. So it is not 99 or 95%. It is 80-90% fake, maybe even less. But that's irrelevant because I would trust to some extent the pix sent to me directly via Viber from the dispatcher I know. I would certainly trust it more than kievlady.com. I would also trust the actual face of a girl in the taxi on my sidewalk, and trust her naked body in my bedroom. The rest is a waste of time. Just like discussing those percentages, or girls ratings one to ten, or whose dick is thicker and longer.

[AntonySun1996]

She has a boyfriend, so what! I had a girl repeatedly, who in my presence was getting SMS messages from the contact labeled "My Love". I will keep away more intimate details.

The fact that the sister wasn't your type is another story. I would still overcame my feelings though and fucked her as a matter of principle.

And I forgot to mention that I have already been introduced to her husband. Fucking her would make the situation a little bit embarrassing, and wouldn't leave good impressions on my girl as well.

[AntonySun1996]

According to some estimates:

"The gender ratio in China appears to be falling, from a high of 121 boys born for every 100 girls in 2004 to about 113.5 boys in 2015, according to official figures. Worldwide, the ratio is about 104 boys to 100 girls. ".

In Chinese society boys are expected to take care of their parents, while girls would leave them after marriage. This results in more male babies being born and raised.

15 to 64 years ratio is 1.05 male to female (2015 est.) Total population of China is 1. 4 billion. Therefore no less than 10 million capable horny men have no chance. Imagine that in a less populated country.

I can only concur that Antony doesn't make anything up. I witnessed but didn't quite experienced that dominant behavior by young Chinese women in respective western diaspora firsthand.

The statistics are pretty accurate I think, and I guess the change in gender structure of new born babies has something to do with the decreasing level of control on child birth. Ten years ago when the infamous One Child Policy was strictly enforced, a typical Chinese couple would try their best to make sure they will have a male baby. Many girls were illegally aborted before birth. Now since the policy has been abolished, the parent have more choices, and many don't mind giving birth to both a boy and a girl.

I am not sure how balanced the gender structure of the whole population has become, though, as the official statistics don't include the undocumented people illegally born in previous years particularly in rural, most of whom are male.

Many of the single men who have trouble finding local wives are buying women from Vietnam and other third-world countries in South East Asia. They used to target village women in underdeveloped regions in China, but most have turned overseas after major police crackdowns on [CodeWord908].

I witnessed but didn't quite experienced that dominant behavior by young Chinese women in respective western diaspora firsthand.

The Chinese girl are famous for their double standards when dating with Chinese guys and foreign guys. This phenomenon is being continuously discussed on Chinese social media.

Typically, a Chinese guy is supposed to have a self-owned residence, a car, a decent amount of deposits, etc. To marry a girl, but generally speaking these prerequisites doesn't apply to foreigners especially white foreigners in China. The foreigners are still more desirable than local men in the dating market, and Chinese girls usually doesn't show dominant behaviours when in relationships with foreigners.

[Power550]

I am going to be in Kiev for two week in August and thought I was going to use agency girls / websites / clubs to get different women.

I was planning on spending 500 us on girls. I am thinking now if I could find a stunner (8+) just to giver her the 500 a day to be with me the entire time.

This would save time having to look for them / having to turn away bait and switches.

Thoughts on this and how would you all recommend finding someone?

[PhotoSlider]

Her sister has a boyfriend and she is not quite sexually attractive to me as well.

She has a boyfriend, so what! I had a girl repeatedly, who in my presence was getting SMS messages from the contact labeled "My Love". I will keep away more intimate details.

The fact that the sister wasn't your type is another story. I would still overcame my feelings though and fucked her as a matter of principle.

[PhotoSlider]

...I'm not from western culture by the way. I'm from China where female are in an even more dominant position in relationships than their western counterparts. Guys have to make a lot of efforts to please their girlfriends. The situation used to be the opposite, but changed dramatically in recent years when western feminism kicked in.

According to some estimates:

"The gender ratio in China appears to be falling, from a high of 121 boys born for every 100 girls in 2004 to about 113.5 boys in 2015, according to official figures. Worldwide, the ratio is about 104 boys to 100 girls. ".

In Chinese society boys are expected to take care of their parents, while girls would leave them after marriage. This results in more male babies being born and raised.

15 to 64 years ratio is 1.05 male to female (2015 est.) Total population of China is 1. 4 billion. Therefore no less than 10 million capable horny men have no chance. Imagine that in a less populated country.

I can only concur that Antony doesn't make anything up. I witnessed but didn't quite experienced that dominant behavior by young Chinese women in respective western diaspora firsthand.

[PhotoSlider]

You are very horny and she can't satisfy you. This is why she brought her sister. So go ahead, and bang her sister!

Maybe.

More likely though it was the usual cock blocking trick. Knowing that Antony "behaves", she decided to have preventive protection.

One of my girls in Kiev is very horny, and she has a sponsor who already proposed marriage to her. She brings her 5 years old son to our meetings. He runs around, kid is a kid. I put Disney cartoons on TV for him in the living room, lock my bedroom door, and fuck her anyway, because subconsciously that's what she wants.

Agree with one thing- be assertive, do not take girls bullshit. I do not mind talking, as long as I get laid sufficiently frequently.

Antony's girl demonstrated repeatedly how selfish she is. As time goes by she will only get worse. Doesn't matter if he spoils her or not, if he tries to bring her to senses or kicks her out. Many Kiev girls are like that. Not all, but many.

I would literally ask the sister to give us some privacy and say the following to the girl herself:

- We didn't make love for a while. Why don't we proceed to my bedroom please?

- Right now?

- Yes please.

- Well. Right now I cannot because blah blah blah.

Then, as Bimbo Boy says, I would smile and directly ask her sister:

- Would you like to make love? Let's go, baby! I've been deprived for way too long already!

And after they both refuse, or even without all that drama, I would state:

- Sorry ladies, I have an unexpected meeting, and need to go now. Would you like me to arrange for your taxi or prefer taking subway?

Paying for her rent? Having common future? No effing way!

Kick her out, and call KEC. Or even call KEC in her presence and ask for Margarita, or Katya, or Liza. Fuck two in a row, or have a threesome after threesome until every erotic desire is satisfied, and there is no strength anymore).

I had a girl that tried to come to me when she needed a place to stay overnight, while having her period. Upon realizing that I made up her bed in the living room, and called my regular dispatcher asking for two girls to choose from. When the taxi arrived, I asked her to go with me and help choosing which girl I should keep. She looked at the car, and showed some attitude going for a late dinner instead. Next her visit a month later we fucked no problem and no pay, only 200 UAH taxi money after. You may ask why did I keep her? Because I enjoy spending time with her besides just mating. But do not take no bullshit.

It's a cultural Ukrainian thing, girls hunt for the best suitor with least possible concession on their own part. But I do not position myself as an ATM to get milked. Not in Kiev.

[AntonySun1996]

You are very horny and she can't satisfy you. This is why she brought her sister. So go ahead, and bang her sister!

Her sister has a boyfriend and she is not quite sexually attractive to me as well.

[AntonySun1996]

What that dude is talking about!? 5'000 $? I have no money and cannot pay money to girls!

About that dude: maybe he is simply not attractive enough for the girl? I have not the slightest idea how that particular dude looks like, how old, how he behaves etc but I met some guys where I am not surprised the girls wanted not have sex or more with them. So, often the ugly man who expects the perfect girl is an illusion.

And again: 5'000 $?! Come on!? Loooool!

I'm an average looking Asian guy in my early 20's with quite healthy figure, above-world-average penis size, and decent behaviors. I'm not famous for my looks but I wouldn't say I'm ugly.

[AntonySun1996]

Some people really have a flair for the drama and love the use of numbers. First it is impossible to get anything but a 7 in Kiev until I point out that a 7 is a well above average woman now it's only 6's that is the best anyone can get.

And then to get really dramatic about the percentage of fake profiles on escort sites the guy says 95% but he has to come in with the dramatics with 99.5 despite admittedly not visiting Kiev for about 2.5 years and regardless there would be no way to know the percentage of fake profiles unless you called every one so in fact no one knows and the flair for the drama can be very misleading to other forum members.

I think for most mongers, who are short-time visitors, 95% and 99.5% fake rates don't make much difference. A few disappointments would be enough to [CodeWord140] them off. Miracles could still happen, though. In rare cases, the switches are sometimes even hotter than baits in B. S.