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[Polyamorist]

Every civilization in the history of earth has found some ways of population control to limit its own population. Especially for humans, this is of key importance since we are at the top of the food chain and has no other real enemies than ourselves. If we didn't find these way, then there would be 100 billion people in the world!

Unfortunately, the point can be used for nefarious purposes. In 1969 (the same year that the first Women's Studies program was set up) a man called Paul Ehrlich predicted that the world would literally come to an end within 15 years due to overpopulation. A wave of hysteria ensued, resulting in 6 million forced sterilisations in India (for starters), the one-child policy in China, and so on. The CIA had the best excuse ever to meddle in the politics of developing nations.

The money was funneled through "charitable" foundations like Ford and Rockefeller. These institutes were staffed by experts who had as much pride in their skills in "psychological warfare" as certain forum members have in pushing your buttons, Pistons. (By the way you are not under any obligation to reply to people who are not contributing any information of their own. There is no argument you need to "win" here.).

"A troll is like a bad dream: it may seem to dominate you, but ultimately it needs your attention to carry on existing. " -- old Norse proverb of dubious origin.

[Chongmal]

US Presidential Candidate Kamala Harris is on the record saying she supports the legalization of prostitution between legal consenting adults.

[Vito Corleone]

It is not too long. The translation I got is only 37 pages. Introduction speaks of him teaching military drills to a bunch of concubines. What more can we ask for really? LOL!

Sun Tzu was proving a point to his emperor. He can make anyone & anybody into a standing army. His tactics were very effective & can still be used in today.

[Pistons]

Referencing a book that you've never read doesn't make you seem any smarter.

It is not too long. The translation I got is only 37 pages. Introduction speaks of him teaching military drills to a bunch of concubines. What more can we ask for really? LOL!

[Takedown]

So, the idea that it is a conspiracy theory that planned parenthood is there as a means of population control is beyond me. And to think that abortions, condoms and the promotion of gays and lesbians have absolutely nothing to do with avoiding babies being born, and the human population to increase. Well, in what reality are all of you people (Takedown and Neurosynth at least) living in?

Anyway. All I can do is laugh all the way to the bank. Since this clearly shows how effective propaganda is. LOL!

BTW, good job uncovering that Planned Parenthood conspiracy. They only literally outright call it birth control. Not sure how we would have figured that one out without conspiracy theory nutjobs pointing these things out.

[Takedown]

Every civilization in the history of earth has found some ways of population control to limit its own population. Especially for humans, this is of key importance since we are at the top of the food chain and has no other real enemies than ourselves. If we didn't find these way, then there would be 100 billion people in the world!

So, the idea that it is a conspiracy theory that planned parenthood is there as a means of population control is beyond me. And to think that abortions, condoms and the promotion of gays and lesbians have absolutely nothing to do with avoiding babies being born, and the human population to increase. Well, in what reality are all of you people (Takedown and Neurosynth at least) living in?

Anyway. All I can do is laugh all the way to the bank. Since this clearly shows how effective propaganda is. LOL!

Best book you can read: The Art of War. By Sun Tsu!

Right on schedule and supporting my point of hanging on to offshoot topics and missing the main idea, as per usual. ESL kids. Referencing a book that you've never read doesn't make you seem any smarter.

[Pistons]

The "enlightened" pair's ignorance and socio-political bias is further exemplified when associating Planned Parenthood with some sort of liberal feminism. It seems that they bought into the brain washing of demonizing PP, as if providing sexual and reproductive services such as STD treatment, birth control, and cancer screening is something to be condemned. Damn conspiracy theorists, they just throw the kitchen sink at the wall and if one thing sticks, they give themselves a pat in the back as if they're some sort of soothsayer.

Every civilization in the history of earth has found some ways of population control to limit its own population. Especially for humans, this is of key importance since we are at the top of the food chain and has no other real enemies than ourselves. If we didn't find these way, then there would be 100 billion people in the world!

So, the idea that it is a conspiracy theory that planned parenthood is there as a means of population control is beyond me. And to think that abortions, condoms and the promotion of gays and lesbians have absolutely nothing to do with avoiding babies being born, and the human population to increase. Well, in what reality are all of you people (Takedown and Neurosynth at least) living in?

Anyway. All I can do is laugh all the way to the bank. Since this clearly shows how effective propaganda is. LOL!

Best book you can read: The Art of War. By Sun Tsu!

[Takedown]

OK then. Given your logic. Dropping a line on being a doctor who has studied genetics doesn't make you a doctor. It just makes you a high school student who has seen a 10 minute youtube film and read one page at school about A, T, C and G. And general kindergarden stuff about DNA and RNA.

I'm pretty sure my undergraduate degree in molecular biology makes me plenty qualified to speak about genetics. Pffft.

Takedown: blah blah blah. Again you don't even understand determinism. And what it leads to is merely assumptions, as nobody knows. Saying anything else is definitely nihilistic!. Narrow minds are unable to think, I know. But that is why people should stop with their own facist ideology. Like cult behavior, and not oppress people with other viewpoints.

(And you also didn't hit all the links regarding misspellings).

Another statement that addresses offshoot points, displaying the wrong understanding of words, lacking a coherent direction, and interjecting irrelevant topics, as per usual.

[Takedown]

And as if that wasn't enough, you go further in raising know-nothing political bias over science.

Oh I read. It's just that unlike you I don't think wearing a MAGA hat "Trumps" expertise in matters of science. I don't limit my reading to politicians who think that facts, evidence, and scientific objectivity should bend to their greed.

The "enlightened" pair's ignorance and socio-political bias is further exemplified when associating Planned Parenthood with some sort of liberal feminism. It seems that they bought into the brain washing of demonizing PP, as if providing sexual and reproductive services such as STD treatment, birth control, and cancer screening is something to be condemned. Damn conspiracy theorists, they just throw the kitchen sink at the wall and if one thing sticks, they give themselves a pat in the back as if they're some sort of soothsayer.

[Pistons]

No one cares about free will versus determinism arguments because it is not a pragmatic topic. They will always lead to a nihilistic end.

Let me just expand on this one:

1. I just pointed to how the deterministic approach was pragmatic in my response to Neurosynth above.

2. Regarding the nihilistic end, it depends on what you mean by that. But assuming you mean that I will find the results I want to seek out, then you are wrong. Because that is why Popper says what he says: In so far as a scientific statement speaks about reality, it must be falsifiable; and in so far as it is not falsifiable, it does not speak about reality.

So we test the hypothesis. In other words, the scientific approach. Before they are tested, they are only assumptions. But of course, if you take an assumption for a fact, then it can be nihilistic.

But you can always have these puppeteers, or octopuses who tries to distort our views. Due to their power over us. I must add that this power to act as a puppeteer (or octopus) is not a choice they take, but a result of the medium they have been put into. Examples of such octopuses who distorts our views, are all forms of mass media. And all forms of cult hierarchy and leaders. And that is a very wide distinction.

A problem just arises with all of this we call 'conspiracy theories'. Because they cannot 100% be falsified. So we cannot be 100% sure about them. They are assumptions. But given the Machiavellian theory on secrecy, the entire state apparatus forces these ideas forth. And they have their own merits too. As a criticism of the Machiavellian approach. Which I honestly think was a joke to begin with.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...elli-all-wrong

P.S: I would not vote for Donald Trump. But he is smart in the way that he does not allways make his stance so obvious at first hands. While many other politicians make their stance on trade and international organizations clear way in advance. Before the deals are made.

[Pistons]

Dropping a line about existential philosophy, doesn't make one smart. It just means you watched a 10 minute YouTube video..

OK then. Given your logic. Dropping a line on being a doctor who has studied genetics doesn't make you a doctor. It just makes you a high school student who has seen a 10 minute youtube film and read one page at school about A, T, C and G. And general kindergarden stuff about DNA and RNA.

[Pistons]

Here is what you said.

He "turned gay" to "find comfort. " That indicates an intention to change. It indicates you think making a choice to change attraction is possible. When I pointed out that attraction is not a choice, your (purely political and unscientific) disagreement with that couldn't have been more clear.

Congratulations on finding 5 quotes where absolutely none of them says I used the word choice! The 'turned gay' to 'find comfort' is a deterministic reaction to an environment. It does not mean he chose it.

Takedown: blah blah blah. Again you don't even understand determinism. And what it leads to is merely assumptions, as nobody knows. Saying anything else is definitely nihilistic!. Narrow minds are unable to think, I know. But that is why people should stop with their own facist ideology. Like cult behavior, and not oppress people with other viewpoints.

(And you also didn't hit all the links regarding misspellings).

[Polyamorist]

I agree with Polyamorist here. His stance is backed pretty well by anthropological theory. There was also a leaked document from CIA in the 70's, referred to in several books, claiming that the reason women got the power to vote, and the push for feminism was approved, was to sex starve men in order to make men work harder.

Jazakallah, Pistons, dead right. Gloria Steinem for one was notorious for working with the CIA. Meanwhile the philanthropic arm of the CIA, the Ford Foundation, funded feminism in the universities, creating the first Women's Studies program in San Diego in 1969 and hundreds more after that. It's also a big funder of Planned Parenthood.

[Neurosynth]

I never wrote it was a choice either. . . . I just reread all my posts here, and I definitely never did write anyone chooses anything. Please quote me on that. And don't edit a quote if you want to continue with your fake news. . . .

Here is what you said.

. . . Another guy I knew once was gay. He lived in a big city with over 5 million people. Had been rejected by several girls early in his life, and eventually turned gay to find comfort. . . .

He "turned gay" to "find comfort. " That indicates an intention to change. It indicates you think making a choice to change attraction is possible. When I pointed out that attraction is not a choice, your (purely political and unscientific) disagreement with that couldn't have been more clear.

LOL, give me a break! Take your sjw ideas elsewhere. Because on me they don't stick. I follow logic and not media stories fed to the general public zombie listeners.
. . . And your assumptions throughout your comment puts you straight into the neoliberal box defining category Nick the g talks about. .

And as if that wasn't enough, you go further in raising know-nothing political bias over science.

. . . Media companies get extremely well paid in order to force through paradigm changes on grand scales. One such thing is the 'global warming'. So not all paradigm changes happens organically. Some do, but also some are forced through with the help of the media.

There's more of course. And what it all has in common is a knee-jerk rejection of any science that provides evidence counter to your politics. As if given a choice between the American Psychological Association and some random guy on the internet, we should go with the latter.

3. I was arguing in favor of you wasting my bandwidth. Nothing else. Because you don't seem to want to read. You just seem to want to assume.

Oh I read. It's just that unlike you I don't think wearing a MAGA hat "Trumps" expertise in matters of science. I don't limit my reading to politicians who think that facts, evidence, and scientific objectivity should bend to their greed.

[Takedown]

1. Post #12834:

2. I never wrote it was a choice either. Simply due to choice being an illusion (read: determinism). Something I referred to over 5 times in the last discussion in this thread too. Just 1-2 weeks ago.

I just reread all my posts here, and I definitely never did write anyone chooses anything. Please quote me on that. And don't edit a quote if you want to continue with your fake news. This was an assumption you made. And I suspect it was due to you not understanding what determinism really is.

Mispellings and typos are one thing. The consistent use of incorrect words and lack of appropriate punctuation completely alters the meaning of your sentences. Often times, they are incomprehensible.

No one cares about free will versus determinism arguments because it is not a pragmatic topic. They will always lead to a nihilistic end. One would think you would take a hint from the lack of responses to the habitual introduction of abstract topics that serve no purpose. Dropping a line about existential philosophy, doesn't make one smart. It just means you watched a 10 minute YouTube video.

Also there is something to be said about other people who habitually use proverbs and quotations. A well placed quotation is effective in conveying complex idioms. Their overuse displays the ability inability to communicate original thought.