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[Pistons]

So framing a human essential need as something negative in its shape and form, seems to me to be a psychotic result of institutional brainwashing. Much like BDSM fetishers.

One can try to deny this suppression of sex in the world. Gandhi tried to do this in Poly's example. Through societal forms and ideas, our subconscious mind would then start obtaining fetishes such as chastity belts among the narrow minded sjw's, monogamy defenders and quasi intellectual trolls. Such as going to a room with the intention of having sex, but then figuring out his subconscious had a fetish on not having sex at all. Or starting, but not being able to finnish. Pretty much like chastity porn. Cockblocked and denied.

Personally I find the very idea that chastity fetishes are a thing, to be quite sad. Very sad.

[Takedown]

Not a bad post at all Takedown! These things, and the ones McA points to are things to keep in mind.

But what is life without escapist practises? Eat chicken for every meal, and chicken gets boring.

The same thing can be said regarding everything in life. Work, food, locations, climate, weather, sports, music etc etc.

Now the argument that using a theory, or science even to defend ones ideas is a bit ficticious though, as that argument itself is the same thing. A theory. Much like Erasmus Montanus:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erasmus_Montanus

Whether on purpose or through subconscious habit, you missed the point of of the post, intellectualization as a mechanism to justify denial. And no, don't get too excited about the term intellectualizing, it does not mean one is intelligent. What you do is not escapism, at least not one that leads to betterment of self. Generating false scenarios and bastardizing facts are more congruent with the early mechanisms of coping with psychological trauma, denial.

[Polyamorist]

I suppose I would have taken Osho with me to an FKK if I were to pick one guy. Osho and maybe Jesus.

Interesting that Pistons also picked an Indian guru. In many ways Osho was the opposite of Gandhi though. Whereas Gandhi wanted you to make mountains out of your inhibitions, Osho preached immediate satisfaction of every desire to achieve a clear flat plain of superconsciousness. Osho's communes in the US were famous for polyamory and were ahead of FKKs in some respects like orgies and mandatory STD testing.

I do wonder what Osho would have done. I suppose he is quite rich now considering I have seen some products marketed with his face on them.

Well. He literally owned 93 Rolls-Royces. He did quite well out of the Age of Permissiveness. But then when the curtain came down in the seventies and eighties (the start of the Sex Prohibition era), his ashrams struggled more and more and eventually fell into chaos. By 1990 Osho himself was on the run -- in the skies. He was practically confined to his private jet, circling the planet and looking for sanctuary. After a year he landed back in India and died.

Osho regarding sex:

https://youtu.be/KmThdVnWNi8

Nice video, especially when he talks about the Life Force. "It is from this energy that you cum. " And what source of energy is more renewable than human sperm? It should replace fossil fuels:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0YWt6GWsAAwFYH.jpg

[Pistons]

Adding to my former post:

There is a problem when 70% of all the content on the internet is related to porn. I would call that an indicator of what the society as a whole is suppressing the most. Due to the idea that most topics that are being brough up onto the public sphere is suppressed topics of interest that needs to be highlighted. Or has some sort of market dynamical need related to it.

So by that very same idea, societal suppression of sex, is equivalent to 70% or all societal suppression in all the worlds societies as a whole. Making this quite the substantial topic nobody can really underestimate.

To put that into context, gaming relates to parhaps only 10%. And that is a pretty hefty timesink for many young adults too without money to splurge. Both are escapist in their form. But as opposed to gaming, sex also has a health benefit, and can be considerred a human essential need. So framing a human essential need as something negative in its shape and form, seems to me to be a psychotic result of institutional brainwashing. Much like BDSM fetishers.

[Takedown]

Monger? Doesn't that imply sex? Whatever you like to call what you do. But mongering is a bit of a stretch don't you think?

Disingenuous at best but to be expected regarding defense mechanisms.

[Pistons]

Not a bad post at all Takedown! These things, and the ones McA points to are things to keep in mind.

But what is life without escapist practises? Eat chicken for every meal, and chicken gets boring.

The same thing can be said regarding everything in life. Work, food, locations, climate, weather, sports, music etc etc.

Now the argument that using a theory, or science even to defend ones ideas is a bit ficticious though, as that argument itself is the same thing. A theory. Much like Erasmus Montanus:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erasmus_Montanus

[Takedown]

I consider myself an addict. Not something I am proud of or really that ashamed of.

You have a healthy point of view, constantly keeping a check on a potentially detrimental habit. While I think it limits your enjoyment of the hobby, I personally think it is better to be this way rather than to be disconnected from facts and reality. You can see a lot of rationalization and intellectualization amongst hobbyist. These defense mechanism do serve a purpose, as they help cope with emotional insecurities, perhaps due to previous emotional trauma such as social rejection or lack of being loved. These logical thoughts help people suffering from psychological trauma accept their realities. You see it written all of the time; "I enjoy travel", "I am practicing my English", "this only takes a little bit of time", "I spend time with other friends", "Society has it wrong".

More broadly speaking, intellectualization can be seen in the frequent references to theories and use of jargon to put up a guise of control. A more therapeutic approach is to practice a higher level mechanism such as humour toward oneself. The problem with that is that it requires one to first let go of primitive mechanisms such as denial and practice acceptance.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectualization

[Sirioja]

Hello,

I will be in Frankfurt and Cologne hitting up bunch of FKKs. I come from Canada so smoking marijuana is legal here, I like to smoke a joint before a session with a escort. But I wonder if smoking marijuana inside FKK or around FKK is legal before have a session with an escort? Thanks.

Some smoke with girls, some girls take cocaine, not only at Aphro Zurich. Only YY NL had problems about drug.

[Samplerr]

Hello,

I will be in Frankfurt and Cologne hitting up bunch of FKKs. I come from Canada so smoking marijuana is legal here, I like to smoke a joint before a session with a escort. But I wonder if smoking marijuana inside FKK or around FKK is legal before have a session with an escort? Thanks.

Not legal, but easy to find if you ask the right girls. They might not have it themselves, but they'll know who does.

[The Cane]

Exactly, they are all already dressed for FKKs.

Caligula would also be properly dressed, and I dare say would quite enjoy aahahaha!

[Mr Ho]

Thanks Poly for the alternative reality of Ghandi and orange sized blue balls. Please keep this up but add in Einstein, Churchill and maybe North Korean leader Kim Suck Dong Un (I may have the the name wrong, lost in dubious translation error).

It seems the laws restricting the consensual sale of pussy must be deeply rooted in protecting the power of women rationing pussy and politics of reproduction that underwrites economic growth and consumption. They will never admit this.

Back in the day, not so long ago, Harem style sex life was only possible for very few men like king, maharaja, so called dictator like Kim Jong Un nd such etc. , but in recent years, more organized platforms in prostitution industry enable freedom thinking men to live similar sex life style for reasonable cost. This is real game changer for men and enhance sex life quality to whole new level. It is form of liberalization, mega liberalization actually.

Protecting power of women, protecting social system, protecting population pyramid, tax system etc. And in part human moral are the reason why recreational sex is perceived as rather dirty thing, it is form of mild brainwash, but rationality is there from the standpoint of those who are enforcing such ideology. It make sense for them to sustain this society, which I agree, though it is not ideology that benefit my sex life that I want to lead.

Personally, I think if all or most of men think like pro mongers, this world is heading to near extinction, so it is good that these mild enforcing brainwash is conducted by so called normal men who lead normal sex life, but it is also good that freedom is now given to choose how we want to live, and I prefer to think with open mind and feed my lust fucking beautiful girls than stuck in ancient closed mind ideologies filled with sexual frustrations.

It is all stand point and point of view, we may think we are normal or not addicted, but from society point of view, any mongers will be labeled as abnormal or sex addict or crazy person LOL, from our point of view, they are the crazy ones not admitting their human basic lust for recreational sex. It is never ending debate which actually keep the world goes around, I guess we call this keeping balance.

Meanwhile, we enjoy good sex life in shadow. Only if these people know how we live.

[Mr Ho]

Hello,

I will be in Frankfurt and Cologne hitting up bunch of FKKs. I come from Canada so smoking marijuana is legal here, I like to smoke a joint before a session with a escort. But I wonder if smoking marijuana inside FKK or around FKK is legal before have a session with an escort? Thanks.

Take train to Venlo, which is border town of Netherlands, one hour train ride from duss, it is legal there and look for coffee shops there, which you will find two on google search, so take your pick. People in Netherlands speak fluent English mostly and it is all legit.

[XXL]

Hello,

I will be in Frankfurt and Cologne hitting up bunch of FKKs. I come from Canada so smoking marijuana is legal here, I like to smoke a joint before a session with a escort. But I wonder if smoking marijuana inside FKK or around FKK is legal before have a session with an escort? Thanks.

No it isn't. Marihuana still squarely against the law. Probably low underground availability in FKKs due to smell.

[CoolManFever]

Hello,

I will be in Frankfurt and Cologne hitting up bunch of FKKs. I come from Canada so smoking marijuana is legal here, I like to smoke a joint before a session with a escort. But I wonder if smoking marijuana inside FKK or around FKK is legal before have a session with an escort? Thanks.

[Pahllus Maximus]

Thanks Poly for the alternative reality of Ghandi and orange sized blue balls. Please keep this up but add in Einstein, Churchill and maybe North Korean leader Kim Suck Dong Un (I may have the the name wrong, lost in dubious translation error).

https://academic.oup.com/beheco/article/26/2/376/257321

Essentially it boils to that chasing women is hard work and orgasms are limited, so we don't want to waste it on inferior females or sub-par experiences, ie those that lack desirable traits of DNA selection, health and youth. Women use beauty (while they have it) to attract superior males and restrict pussy to lesser males. Duh! Oldest dance in the book and is essentially the core FKK transaction thanks to contraception, cheap travel and good old Germany with its key respect for people (apart from a decade of unfortunate madness) over centuries of enlightenment starting with Luther, Goeth and Faust.

It seems the laws restricting the consensual sale of pussy must be deeply rooted in protecting the power of women rationing pussy and politics of reproduction that underwrites economic growth and consumption. They will never admit this, but behind all the claims of trafficking and saving women from themselves, alleged respect / dignity and self sovereignty (applied selectively of course, all based on assumptions free of any evidence), the P2 P prohibition seems to really be about about protecting the equivalent pricing power of a cartel and long term subscription to a wasting asset from being displaced by casual labor providing pussy. If men want to love women and be monogamous (itself unnatural), fine, but it should be a free marketplace. Incredible in the face of the gig economy, globalisation, the cult / ideology of free markets etc this area is carved out from competition in some places. The Nordic model of going after the men in law enforcement (destroy demand) underscores the point of who this racket really benefits.

The stark contrast are the legions of tolerated exploitative pink collar jobs / industries for females with crap wages, repetitive tasks, humiliating, de-humanising and requiring conformity and docility, such as garment manufacturing, assembling electronics, care giving (wiping butts of infants and geriatrics) etc etc. The real crime is undermining pussy pricing and the rent seeking monopoly of women where that is a "thing" (and in their short window to sell a long-term contract for exclusive supply). As Oscar Wilde said, a crime (love) that dare not speak its name, and that speaking is what FKK's represent.

In a lot of ways the men here are perfectly rational seeking optimal choices and pricing in the face of a sanctioned rent-seeking. Given many here are clearly business savvy, this undermining the cartel should be celebrated rather than frowned up by the rent seekers. Polyamorist, perhaps taking a leaf from Ayn Rand, perhaps we need a "Galt's Gash" FKK story from the depths of your wicked imagination and talented pen where oppressed men escape to for a perfect life of wild sex and happy times.