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[Transporter]

So what's the go? Is this all big noting BS? Is it just a case of more experienced mongers or Ex pats just relaying their stories which have taken years to establish this sort of network?

For me from the West prices are rock bottom compared to here so I don't mind paying but it seems attractive as the reports seem to tell about semi pros who I have had better experiences with.

Anything that I should be doing. When you read posts of guys having multiple girls at their beck and call 24/7 for no money you get a bit suspicious.

To answer your entire post I would have to sit here and pretty much type a handbook out. Although I love to share my experience, I am not sure I am ready to sit here and type out an entire handbook at this time.

But to get to the point, nothing is ever for free. You have a motive, she has a motive, what we are playing with is the time between your first meet, and the time it takes for her to unravel her plan. Basically you are taking advantage of her set up time, to achieve your objectives. Once she gets to the point in her plan where you have to make choices, well you have to either make choices or scheme to lengthen things out. So yes, in a sense it is free, but no one is that selfish, we do things for them, buy them things, just to feel less guilty about what we are doing, its human nature.

What I can offer you is this: you have to have a very specific objective, only then will you be able to target what you want. If you have a very specific objective, pm me, and I can give you some options.

[Goferring]

Somewhat, yes. Establishing that kind of network takes many years, its different with each girl.

With social connections as important as they are in Asia, the value of references from other girls cannot be overestimated.

[WestCoast1]

So I have been reading stories of guys esp expats and guys who do multiple visits to the Philippines getting freebies and having stables of hot girls who they just call up and they come running. SNIP

but some posters seem to say all you have to do is point and they will fall over themselves to satisfy you.

Many of mine are often doing just that. Size of your wallet might be more important than your game, especially for newer gals. Later, after she gets to know you, your personality might be more important to her than your wallet.

Is it just a case of more experienced mongers or Ex pats just relaying their stories which have taken years to establish this sort of network?

Somewhat, yes. Establishing that kind of network takes many years, its different with each girl.

[Goferring]

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When I went to Cebu I use Pinalove with little success. Started about a month before lining up acquaintances and doing the ground work. 95% were time wasters who promised a lot but wouldn't show.

Now I appreciate if you are based there than yes this is possible as many girls see you as possible ticket to financial freedom but some posters seem to say all you have to do is point and they will fall over themselves to satisfy you.

So given I have had 3 trips to the Philippines and am pretty presentable I didn't find girls fighting to get me into bed. Walking around Ayala Mall I only had 2 occasions when girls would give me the eye and a conversation would start. I am definitely not shy and believe I have a pretty good "game" as some websites would have you call it.

So what's the go? Is this all big noting BS? Is it just a case of more experienced mongers or Ex pats just relaying their stories which have taken years to establish this sort of network?
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Many repeat visitors, myself included, find weeks or months of pre work online a total waste of effort. I don't even send a message now until I'm sitting in a hotel in PH.

In many ways mongering is just like courting back home. A lot of the guys' success depends on who he is targeting and if he acts appropriately. Yes, hookers will meet up at the drop of a hat but civilians may take a couple or multiple dates before anything happens.

No disrespect intended but your post reeks of desperation and girls can smell that from miles away. This often leads to over charging, underperformance, a general Princess syndrome or even outright rejection. It may pay to go for someone more professional or even lower your standards upon arrival just to get rid of the deer in the headlights look that everyone arrives with. You can then just relax and get on with the job in a relaxed manner. I always seem to gave the best encounters late in my trips, when the pressure is off and I'm not desperate to bed any girl that says Hello.

See below for some of my experiences online. I'm reasonably active online so feel free to search through my posts for success and failure stories.

Enjoy and good luck. G.

I'm currently in Subic having a lot of good fortune with PinaLove and FilippinoCupid.

I questioned a PL girl about how she uses the dating software......

That's it, I'm soooo done putting in ground work on the online hookup sites!
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[Mr Enternational]

but some posters seem to say all you have to do is point and they will fall over themselves to satisfy you.

Who said that? It is just like talking to a chick anywhere else if you ask me. It took 4 years before my exgirlfriend in AC would even go out with me.

[D Cups]

. When you read posts of guys having multiple girls at their beck and call 24/7 for no money you get a bit suspicious.

It has taken me a few years to build the harem and there is constant turnover and they all want money between visits.

[NewImage]

So I have been reading stories of guys esp expats and guys who do multiple visits to the Philippines getting freebies and having stables of hot girls who they just call up and they come running.

When I went to Cebu I use Pinalove with little success. Started about a month before lining up acquaintances and doing the ground work. 95% were time wasters who promised a lot but wouldn't show.

Now I appreciate if you are based there than yes this is possible as many girls see you as possible ticket to financial freedom but some posters seem to say all you have to do is point and they will fall over themselves to satisfy you.

So given I have had 3 trips to the Philippines and am pretty presentable I didn't find girls fighting to get me into bed. Walking around Ayala Mall I only had 2 occasions when girls would give me the eye and a conversation would start. I am definitely not shy and believe I have a pretty good "game" as some websites would have you call it.

So what's the go? Is this all big noting BS? Is it just a case of more experienced mongers or Ex pats just relaying their stories which have taken years to establish this sort of network?

For me from the West prices are rock bottom compared to here so I don't mind paying but it seems attractive as the reports seem to tell about semi pros who I have had better experiences with.

Anything that I should be doing. When you read posts of guys having multiple girls at their beck and call 24/7 for no money you get a bit suspicious.

[Wicked Roger]

You said in the past, that you had signed paperwork to get your Pinay out of the country. I had to do similar last year when visiting Malaysia with my GF. I suspect they thought I was might have been trafficking my GF, and that she was going to work overseas for me.

They questioned in great detail how long we had known each other, where we met etc.

I would suspect your Passport details are flagged not on the Canadian side, but on the Philippines side. It could well be that a jealous previous GF has said something to stop you coming back and visiting the competition.

A new passport may not fix that, as it could be as simple as your name and nationality. My boss used to get stopped all the time going into the US, because he shared the same name as an IRA terrorist.

As you were denied entry, I would not have expected you to pay any more for your ticket, the airline get told to sort that out.

Personally, I would not try and go back, it may not be quite as friendly next time.

The signing of BI affidavits is nothing new it happens all the time. I have even seen the idiots in passport control ask a married Dutch couple with kids to sign it (the husband that is) - he was most indignant and totally pissed off with them (and let them know also).

I lean more towards some jealous ex GF as this is the crazy thing they can do as passport control / BI believes her as she is pinay not fact or bother to investigate. Many cases in other areas where this has happened.

Sometimes a new passport is the trick (certainly is in other countries) as many systems work on the passport number but I for one would want to know as you have a legal right to be told and I am a nosey parker LOL.

[Charm City Dave]

The Most popular Globe Promo is GOSURF50 = 50 pesos for 3 days all net text +1 GB data.

The Equivalent for Smart is GIGASURF50.

In General if you just get one sim f=go for Smart as between them Smart and Sister brants TNT and Sun have about 70 % of the market whereas Globe and sister brand TM have around 30%. Intra Network calling is the most expensive activity.

Here are some othe Smart Promo codes.

https://smart.com.ph/Prepaid/promos/type/data

I use Google Fi. It is a little more expensive but I have one US number that works around the world. I have used in the Philippines, Indonesia, Thailand, Cambodia, Colombia, Peru, Canada, Singapore, Japan, Australia, New Zealand and of course the US. My service is active before my plane finishing taxing. I carry one phone. I don't have to fumble with or reload sim cards. I have US based English speaking tech support. My bill is simple, charged to my credit card It is rarely more than $30 month. Now you can use many phones with the service, but check the site for compatibility or any limitations your phone may have.

It may not be for everyone including penny pinchers or people who don't want Filipinas having your US number. But it is a no-brainer perfect plan for me. If you are interested here is a link that saves you $20 if you sign up. You can just check the link to see the specifics.

https://g.co/fi/r/AV50AT

[OlderAndWiser]

The Most popular Globe Promo is GOSURF50 = 50 pesos for 3 days all net text +1 GB data.

The Equivalent for Smart is GIGASURF50.

In General if you just get one sim f=go for Smart as between them Smart and Sister brants TNT and Sun have about 70 % of the market whereas Globe and sister brand TM have around 30%. Intra Network calling is the most expensive activity.

Here are some othe Smart Promo codes.

https://smart.com.ph/Prepaid/promos/type/data

This a post from Manila thread.

The issue with your load is that you were on a casual plan. Your phone is using load just on data pings. The only way to use a prepaid mobile in Philippines is on a "promo".

I only know Globe promos, I suggest something like GOTSCOMBODD90 which you text to 8080.

This text and data promo comes with 2 GB mobile data and texts to all networks valid for 7 days (1 week) for 90 pesos.

BD.

[PBtoCobra]

Per the airline, the immediate return flight was sold out and they put me on the next days flight. I was given no paperwork and signed nothing. I gave general info because I myself have no clue what happened. I have no problems in Canada unless speeding ticket counts as trouble. As I said I was recently renewed on nexus / global entry, that would never happen if I had any legal issues in Canada or the us. And yes bringing girls outside Philippines was clearly a poor choice.

You said in the past, that you had signed paperwork to get your Pinay out of the country. I had to do similar last year when visiting Malaysia with my GF. I suspect they thought I was might have been trafficking my GF, and that she was going to work overseas for me.

They questioned in great detail how long we had known each other, where we met etc.

I would suspect your Passport details are flagged not on the Canadian side, but on the Philippines side. It could well be that a jealous previous GF has said something to stop you coming back and visiting the competition.

A new passport may not fix that, as it could be as simple as your name and nationality. My boss used to get stopped all the time going into the US, because he shared the same name as an IRA terrorist.

As you were denied entry, I would not have expected you to pay any more for your ticket, the airline get told to sort that out.

Personally, I would not try and go back, it may not be quite as friendly next time.

[Toronto]

So you signed nothing and your passport was not stamped so no paper trail to follow up on.

Why had you not got to pay for the flight change?

So you flew out the next day? Were you kept in a holding cell? Did you exchange notes / converse with anyone?

Until you can be more specific and narrow down the reason and who may have done you in, there is no hope.

As dg8787 pointed out answers to your questions are in my posts but I will entertain you. Yes no stamp and I signed nothing, why would I sign anything? In cases like this airlines are responsible and since the immediate return flight was supposedly sold out they simply changed my existing return ticket for the next day. This was obviously not a voluntary change by me and I was never asked to pay. No holding cell, I already explained that I paid for the room in the transit hotel. Who would I exchange notes with? Other guests in the transit hotel? Yes many casual conversations with various people, just not with immigration officials who had no desire to entertain my request to find out the reason for blacklist. Are you satisfied now Pedro?

[Dg8787]

So you signed nothing and your passport was not stamped so no paper trail to follow up on.

Why had you not got to pay for the flight change?

So you flew out the next day? Were you kept in a holding cell? Did you exchange notes / converse with anyone?

Until you can be more specific and narrow down the reason and who may have done you in, there is no hope.

Sorry twisted and still confused Pedro. Mr. Toronto did answered all your questions.

[PedroMorales]

Per the airline, the immediate return flight was sold out and they put me on the next days flight. I was given no paperwork and signed nothing. I gave general info because I myself have no clue what happened. I have no problems in Canada unless speeding ticket counts as trouble. As I said I was recently renewed on nexus / global entry, that would never happen if I had any legal issues in Canada or the us. And yes bringing girls outside Philippines was clearly a poor choice.

So you signed nothing and your passport was not stamped so no paper trail to follow up on.

Why had you not got to pay for the flight change?

So you flew out the next day? Were you kept in a holding cell? Did you exchange notes / converse with anyone?

Until you can be more specific and narrow down the reason and who may have done you in, there is no hope.

[Toronto]

I realise you have to be vague but.

1. As you were not scheduled to fly out on the plane you flew out on, you should have been charged a change of flight fee for that.

2. You failed to find out who blacklisted / flagged you and why.

3. You may have no legal trouble in Canada but it is possible someone has trouble with you and ratted you in. You must find out who grassed you up.

4. Did they give you a copy of anything you had to sign as, per a PDF attachment to an earlier post, that would give you an indication of the category you fell under.

5. On the very limited information you gave, it was probably one of the Pinays or their relatives but, as you give only very general, not specific information, advice can only be very general and of not much use.

6. The Pinoy Embassy in Canuckland won't care about this and are not worth contacting. Nor are lawyers in Pinoyland.

7. Your only hope for progress would have been if the Cancuk cops had been involved. If they are not, better not to approach them.

8. The key thing for me would be to find out if there is a grass in Canuckland or wherever you hang out. For the rest, write iot off and don't bring hookers overseas ffs.

Per the airline, the immediate return flight was sold out and they put me on the next days flight. I was given no paperwork and signed nothing. I gave general info because I myself have no clue what happened. I have no problems in Canada unless speeding ticket counts as trouble. As I said I was recently renewed on nexus / global entry, that would never happen if I had any legal issues in Canada or the us. And yes bringing girls outside Philippines was clearly a poor choice.