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03-25-19 01:19 #24482
Posts: 1575Originally Posted by Ggekko2009 [View Original Post]
Ramen with chicken sounds strange. Never tried that combination.
German food can be good when done well. Check out Edelweiss, you won't be disappointed. They have a giant meat platter that isn't for the faint hearted. The bread is pretty decent, but I would not call it authentic.
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03-25-19 00:47 #24481
Posts: 533Originally Posted by Blanquiceleste [View Original Post]
I have tried the Thai food at the restaurant just below the ABC hotel. It was decent but not great. In any case, there are just unfortunately too many Korean restaurants along Walking street and I wish there are more varieties.
There is actually a side stall selling pretty decent Ramen at quite a cheap price near McDonald. Too bad it is served up with chicken and not pork.
Tasty German food to me is an oxymoron, but I do like their bread. Even when traveling in Germany, I do not seek out their food, LOL.
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03-24-19 16:07 #24480
Posts: 42Models
Originally Posted by Ggekko2009 [View Original Post]
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03-24-19 15:52 #24479
Posts: 533Originally Posted by CenTexCrash [View Original Post]
There are many bars located along the Walking Street, and each bar has a supply of their own girls. The girls would perform and parade on stage so that you can have a look of them before you make your pick. The girl can keep you company but you are expected to buy them lady drink. Each drink cost 300 pesos on average, and they can consume these drinks pretty quickly. This cycle will repeat until you are ready to barfine them. The barfine can range from 2500 to 4500 depending on the club and the different level of the girls. I would try to explain and maybe forum vets can correct me if I provide incorrect info here.
There are two types of girls in the bar. Some are "models" and some are "performers" like those that perform in clubs like XS and pole dancers in Atlantis. The models can be barfined and that includes ST sex. The performers can be barfine but they usually only provide companionship and not necessarily sex. So you need to confirm your selection before barfining.
The first observation I had was when I observed some Koreans trotting along multiple girls on the street or into the club, and I was thinking if he is going to have threesome or foursome with some many girls. It turned out not to be the case as explained by the girls. Most of them may pick a few in one go and more likely than not provide companionship for them as the primary service. Again, don't quote me on that as this was just based on heresay from the girls.
The club with a bigger selection of girls include Atlantis. If you want club that is opened earlier during the day, it will be the Ponytails next to ABC hotel.
High Society has a lot of Freelancers in there, but you need to pay 250 pesos cover charge to get in. I found the price quoted by them to me pretty much on the high side but YMMV. That is my limited experience with AC so far.
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03-24-19 15:41 #24478
Posts: 1575Originally Posted by Tasss [View Original Post]
Also, Edelweiss is a solid 8/10 for German food. They used to stock Oettinger, but not any more (I was there 8 months back, if they have it back then great).
Kokomos is shit. Yu Fu In is good for Japanese food, but a bit pricey.
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03-24-19 09:34 #24477
Posts: 2201Originally Posted by Tasss [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Tasss [View Original Post]
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03-24-19 09:09 #24476
Posts: 261Originally Posted by NewImage [View Original Post]
If anyone cares, my next trip is probably a return trip to Bogota. I posted a very detailed newbie report for that city about August of last year. It's about as cheap as AC in certain areas, more variety, sexier girls (better bodies and more skill in bed), only 8 HR flight, and no need to deal with drama from girls who fall in love on the first sex LOL. The only reason I came to AC this time was because of a heavily discounted plane ticket to MNL and the "discovery" of the Genesis bus. Without either of those, I wouldn't have come.
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03-24-19 06:55 #24475
Posts: 970Appreciate you writing
Originally Posted by Tasss [View Original Post]
Again many thanks.
NI.
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03-24-19 06:07 #24474
Posts: 3244Originally Posted by Niteluvr [View Original Post]
But you were too lazy or too busy being a troll. Your post #13042 in the Shanghai forum speaks loudly about you.
Yes I had my reservations about you a few weeks ago and now upon reading your disgusting post #13042 has verified that for me.
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03-24-19 05:39 #24473
Posts: 416Originally Posted by Dg8787 [View Original Post]
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03-24-19 04:42 #24472
Posts: 15815Originally Posted by CenTexCrash [View Original Post]
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03-24-19 04:20 #24471
Posts: 571Noob question, first time thru Angeles City
Hello,
Resident US / Texas citizen / village idiot here will have a 48 hour monger opp in April. Will arrive Saturday night from Seoul into Clark ICN-CRK and will indulge until it's time to sail onward late Monday night MNL-SYD.
Main question to post here: I have read lists of bars / clubs on various websites and one I read I didn't save the link and forgot where I read this, maybe why'all could clue me? Said it's a club not a bar and the girls there are other bar's working girls clocked out for the night on their personal time, and you can strike up a deal with no bar fines no middle man and essentially negotiate a better rate directly with girls for what bars would normally charge. Does that synopsis ring a bell? Anyone? (Starting to wish I saved the URL I swear somewhere said this).
And would this route be recommended or stick to the bars?
Bonus question: If I can handle Tijuana MX, Reynosa MX, and a lightning quick few hours in LA Cafe, what's my survival chances in AC?
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03-23-19 21:56 #24470
Posts: 3244Originally Posted by Niteluvr [View Original Post]
Tasss is an honorable member. He posted reports as promised so all can learn.
Looking forward to your reports.
BTW, the stop is in Ortigas, part of Manila. The stop doesn't last more than 30 seconds for passengers to offload and onload.
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03-23-19 20:49 #24469
Posts: 416Originally Posted by Tasss [View Original Post]Last edited by Admin3; 03-26-19 at 13:10.
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03-23-19 14:48 #24468
Posts: 261AC trip #4.
I've just finished my 4th AC trip. No play-by-play in this report but you can see my previous AC reports more details. I'm mostly reporting on anything different I've done this trip vs previous trips.
Transportation.
Flying to Manila and taking the Genesis bus to AC can save a lot of money than either flying to Clark directly or taking a taxi to AC. I flew into NAIA Terminal 1, took the shuttle to Terminal 3, which is another airport almost. The shuttle didn't check whether I had a transfer ticket, even though there's a sign that says you need to have one. When I got to T3 I had to go inside the terminal to reach some elevators to go down a level, then go out again. When I went inside the terminal, security asked me for a ticket and I just told them I'm taking the Genesis bus and they let me through. When I got to the bottom level I just asked where the Genesis bus is and they pointed me to the right direction. YMMV but I spent 45 min in between waiting for the shuttle, the shuttle time to T3, walking around T3 and waiting for the Genesis bus to leave. It was past midnight so things were probably faster than if it was a day time transfer. I was also lucky I caught the Genesis bus not very long before it was scheduled to depart. The cost is 380 p vs a 3000 p hotel taxi (which was the cost last time I took a taxi from MNL), so you decide if it's worth it or not. The bus trip itself was only 2 hrs, again being past midnight. Air conditioning on the bus was too strong so I suggest bringing a long sleeve shirt or something if you're prone to getting cold.
They made a stop somewhere along the way to pick up more people I guess but the first drop off is SM Clark. There are a bunch of trikes waiting there and as others mentioned in the forum already, the trike is roomy enough to fit me and my big luggage. My hotel is on A Santos Rd. I think if it was a Fields hotel they'd charge 100 p but the trike guy wanted 150. Whatever.
On the return trip, a lot of trike guys know where the Genesis bus is, or if they don't, the bus picks up at the flag pole area at SM mall. Trike was 100 p from A Santos. The bus was on time for my pickup, so don't be late. You can choose between drop off at NAIA 1, 2, or 3. I made the mistake of thinking there's a free shuttle at T3 to T1 and decided to be dropped off at T3 because it was the cheapest. But it turns out the shuttle ends at some point at night so I had to take a white taxi (about 140 p) to T1.
Hotel.
I stayed in Luxury Suites (a part of the RedDoorz chain) which is an apartment style hotel on A Santos. I would have liked Central Park but it's hard to get a 2-3 week reservation there now, unless, I suppose you reserve long in advance, which I didn't. They've also raised prices to match demand. Last year CPT was a good value, but I don't think it is now. There's at least one if not two hotels being built near Fields (Palladium and One Euphoria) so there should be more supply and more price competition coming.
Luxury Suites ended up being a good choice. It's about half the price of Central Park and the rooms are decently sized. They have two buildings across from each other. One looks a little ghetto but the one with the RedDoorz sign looks modern. I got a one bedroom apartment there and they also have studios, which are a bit smaller. No girl ever complained about the room, some liked it a lot. There's a kitchen, which is convenient. There are two issues though, one is that there's construction going on right now, and I anticipate that'll keep going for a couple of months. For the time being, it's noisy during the day, which sucks if you're a night person. Second is that it's about a quarter mile away from Fields. It doesn't sound like much but if you're making multiple round trips daily, for food, money, girls, it can wear you down, especially in the day time heat. When I got a massage girl near Cebuana for example, or after I shop from JJ's, I'd just rather pay a 100 p trike on the way back. Booking this place can be done on regular hotel sites like Hotels.com or Airbnb.
SIM card.
Although I've made 3 previous trips to AC, I never really understood how the prepaid plans work. I simply had someone at the airport do everything for me and I remembered paying something like 350 p for about a month worth of service. However it was always more than I needed so I decided to buy the SIM and load independently this trip.
Unlike what we're used to in the US, load, aka prepaid credit, is used to buy "promo codes" that apply on your account. If you use load without promo codes applied, you'll get killed on usage charges as I found out the hard way. I bought a 50 p Globe SIM this time. The most popular codes are "Gosakto", which costs 100 p and gives you 7 days of unlimited text and up to 2 GB of data, and "Gosurf50", for 1 GB and 3 days. There's also a one month 300 p code from Globe. You dial #143* on your phone to apply those codes. You can also text those codes to 8080 but that didn't work for me. If you only care about convenience, just get everything done at the airport. But if you're a penny pincher, I'd suggest checking what they're selling at the airport and comparing it against the costs I mentioned. Sometimes you'll save money, sometimes not.
Unlike what some other countries, you do need SMS in PI. Relying only on WiFi will limit your communication option with some girls. A lot of girls don't have smartphones and since popular Smart / Globe promos give you unlimited texts but limited data, people still rely on texting for communication. Many girls don't have WiFi at home so they don't have an incentive to buy a smartphone. There's a brand called TM (owned by Globe) that has 5 peso per day texting plans that I've seen a girl use.
Miscellaneous.
I hate Filipino food and everyone complains about the choices here. A couple of places I went to this time with decent food: tacos at Tequila Reef, burgers at Bunny Burger, pizza and BBQ at Juanita's Guesthouse. I'm not big on Korean food, but if I had to pick one restaurant on / near Fields I'd pick Yi San. I've had good and bad orders from Kokomo's. Envy's nice and fancy but their portions are small. I ordered Mongolian beef there, and it was cooked way too sweet.
I usually stock up on Cialis when I come to AC. 2 boxes (8 pills) can be had for 250 pesos, although you'd have to walk away sometimes before the seller accepts. The lowest price I've ever had for one box is 150 from previous trips.
Girl prices and current conditions.
The two major changes I've seen from early 2018 was the increase in barfines (along with FL prices to match) and more girls not doing BBFS. There are increasing number of newcomers to AC and the demand is up. Roughly 1/3 of all the girls I asked will not do BBFS. I've heard that the bar owners are telling girls not to do it. This is a net positive change for me since there are less STDs going around and I test before I go.
The daytime bars on Friendship and the few that are open on Walking St are charging 2000-2500, an increase of a few hundred pesos on average. Those bars open at 11:30-12 and by 1-2 pm they're mostly deserted, with the good looking girls taken already. The Walking Street bars mainly open at 6 pm with barfines usually between 3000-3500 and some girls going for 4000. This is about a 500 p increase from last year's average. If you do what the waitresses tell you to do, which is to buy drinks, pick a girl, buy her a drink, then she refuses to barfine you or does not meet your other requirements, you're looking at spending hundreds to 1000+ on wasted drinks alone. I bought single LDs for the girls and only for those who agree to barfine, and no one seemed to mind. Just tip the girl directly afterwards for her "loss" of 50 p if you want. I also tip the waitress if she finds me a girl who I end up taking.
If you want to do bargirls ST before they go to work, you can offer 1500 and increase it to 2000 if they refuse. I wouldn't pay more than 2 k. Scheduling them after work is iffy because they might get barfined that day or they'll change their mind and just go home because they're tired.
HiSo girls are increasing their prices to match the barfines. I was lucky to get one girl for 1500 one night, but most are asking for more. I always proposed 1500 first but when I hear a counteroffer of 3000 I just stop listening. Guy / girl ratio is often 1:1 approximately, which isn't very good if you have standards for looks. You eliminate the girls who are ugly, asking for stupid prices, and the girls who are just having fun there, and you end up with not that many real choices. IMO it's fine if you want to find a girl to just drink or dance with, but not a good place to pick up to get laid anymore. You've always had to deal with the drunk guys, the douchebags and second hand smoke while you were there. Before it was worth it, but I think that's no longer true. It used to be that I sourced about 1/3 of my girls from HiSo, but I only took one out this trip.
FLs walking on Fields were also sometimes asking for 3 k but I've had 2 take 1500 and one take 1800. Do these "3 k" girls know that for the same amount of money people could have just barfined got LT? I see FLs spread out all over the place now. Either that or I wasn't looking hard enough before. There are some in front of Kokomo's, in front of Philly's (has a mix of LB and real girls there, so be careful), standing at the sidewalks of walking street, green benches area near the money changers. Non-HiSo FLs picked up the slack where HiSo failed me this time. I don't know why HiSo got so shitty. Maybe because HiSo started charging cover for girls, whereas they didn't a few years back, so the girls looking for money are less inclined to go in and those that do go in look to make back their investment.
Massage girls are all over the place now too, some are in street clothes, mostly in uniform. I've seen them in front of Bunny Burger, 7-11, and in front of the shops between 7-11 and Margarita Station, along with the usual places of behind Kokomo's and in front of Cebuana. One non-uniformed massage girl also spotted me as I was walking out of After Dark, which is just a very random place. Unlike a year ago, lots of massage girls either don't do full service, don't do BBFS, or ask for 3 k. I was able to talk a 3 k massage girl down to 2 k by explaining to her that she can just tell the boss she's doing only a massage and pocketing 1600. Otherwise if she reports to the boss she's fucking a customer, she gets paid 1. 5 k and her boss gets 1. 5 k. The massage girls come out after 6 pm. They were the best bargains before, but this time not really. The price that I paid were all between 1. 5-2 k. Due to the increased prices, more difficult negotiations, and the fact that a lot of them don't do BJs, they lost a lot of value for me.
There are some touts on A Santos Rd between Johnny St and Henyfel St that will offer girls for 1 k ST. But the selection is very limited and mostly ugly. I did luck out once since I had to walk that route several times a day and met a pretty cute girl. Some girls won't go to your hotel because there's a short time hotel nearby where they expect you to go. That area's not very well lit so be careful of your belongings and use common sense.
I barfined more this time than on my previous two trips. Only on my maiden AC trip I barfined more often. I didn't expect it to be that way, but due to HiSo and massage girl options becoming worse, the value equation is now starting to favor them again. I prefer the Korean bars more than the traditional bars because usually the girls are better looking, waitresses are less pushy, and they're larger so you have more choices. The downside is sometimes the girls are placed so far away from you that you can't see their faces, and the evening gowns they wear cover up any issues they have on their stomach.
Sessions of note.
Both the best and worst experiences this trip were with bargirls. I interviewed a girl thoroughly at After School, asking her twice if she does BBFS and she said yes both times. It was her first day on the job. In my room she refused BB and didn't do BJ so I sent her back. No refunds, a waste of about 3 k including drinks and trike, but I'd rather save my energy for another girl that day. A girl from Las Vegas was a sex freak. She fucked so hard that I thought my dick was going to break and kept fucking my cock for 5 minutes after I've already shot inside her. Superb experience.
FLs are equally YMMV. A 1500 p FL outside of Phillys was a blowjob master and took a dripping creampie at the end. Never saw her again and didn't get her number because she said she was using her mom's phone. On the opposite end of the quality spectrum, I also saw one right outside RedDoorz as I was walking towards Fields. She called out to me, I bit for 1000, but I should have paid attention to her attitude, and it ended up being a really bad experience and I told her to stop and go away.
One FL I picked up in front of Kokomo's interestingly came from Manila that day, does one guy (me), and goes back same night. That cost her about 6 hours round trip I'd imagine, but 1000-1200 pesos after expenses is probably a lot better than what she makes a day in a regular job.
Final thoughts.
AC is still cheap compared to the rest of the world but its price increases faster than other destination. Therefore if you look at it purely as a fuckathon destination, it loses appeal year over year. I haven't been coming here for that long, but the changes since my first trip 4 years ago were pretty major. The whole of SE Asia is improving economically and there's just going to be more choices for these girls moving forward in terms of regular jobs or just higher paying clients.
But if you want to fall in love and deal with the issues that result from actual relationships, then the Philippines is still one of the best places for that.