Berlin

[Nooky Ninja]

Ninja was reminded during coffee session today of ancient reports by the now extinct Angus Magee and rarely seen but fondly remembered Charlie123 of their night at King George. Almost 10 years now (but gives feel for Zeitgeist).

Key takeaway point: Go if possible with wingman to manage all much better. Several reports around 18 August 2010

Link is http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1057261&viewfull=1#post1057261

[BlueBudgie]

Can you explain the phrase "bad frog in a swamp"?

Is this a typical German phrase?

There is no analog for this in English and I am interested the meaning.

As far as flat rate brothels, its an option of last resort. The girls are not so hot and they are just getting pounded one after another all day long. In Berlin I would recommend some of the better houses, massage places, kaufmich, and I personally like Artemis but many have mixed feelings about it. I would not mess with the street girls or the flat rate girls. I've never been in a kino but my understanding is they are not so great either.

[Nooky Ninja]

I am looking forward to a trip to Berlin, and am intrigued by this flat rate brothel concept..I want to see if I could get some clarification on a few things:

First, Ninja never been, but know plenty who have. Ninja sense you have not so much experience. You must know these places are downmarket, just above streetwalkers. King George slightly "better" than Caligula but atmosphere similar. Far better girls in private apartments, and experience will be much more relaxed. Obviously more expensive If you just want quantity vs quality, flat rates allow this. If you want much nicer experience, take 30 min session (to start) in private bordellos like Ginas Tango, Prestige, Liberty, Salon Deluxe, Monrouge, Aston, etc. Look at their websites. Ninja would always take 1-3 of these per day spread over many hours also enjoying city, vs. hanging for hours in dark so so clean flat rate club to be with maybe 3-5 girls. Nothing intriguing about all this. So ask yourself really, why you want to do this? Maybe 1 time if you need cheap thrill or just curious, but so many better options in Berlin. Even sex kinos such as Alt Manier (according to my expert Zimmerbaby) probably better service, and only slightly more expensive. You can in theory pay "effectively 20 Euro per girl session" in flat rate with shitty rooms and so so (at best if you are really lucky) service from girls doing lots of guys, vs. 50 Euro for 30 min quick session in attractive private flat with real shower and with super girls. 30 Eur price difference really not so much, for much much much better experience. And with an "extra" here or there at flat rate club, price difference becomes even less. And with private apartments you don't hang around for hours waiting. To your questions:

1. First, and most important, do I just walk up to a girl I like, introduce myself, and ask if we can go in the back? Or do I need to work up to it, with conversation and / or tipping, if I don't want a bad rep?

No rules, do as little or as much as you feel. Girls are not there to make chit chat. Certainly no tipping before room. But talking first helps you feel vibe and risk and costs of up-selling. Better to get all clear before heading off to zimmer (see 3. Below).

2. On that, do you typically have to wait for girls to be done with other customers? What is the typical guy to girl ratio?

Not sure what is alternative to "waiting for girls to be done with others" - interrupting a conversation or session could lead to your early exit (from planet Earth). Neither place crowded (that should tell you something), obviously slightly more so at night.

3. How hard will the women push the extras once you get in the back? Can I simply say as nicely as possible, no thank you, you can just take off your clothes and lie down? Again, will I get a bad rep if I'm just taking girls in the back, doing my thing and not pulling out any additional euros in the process?

Will vary by girl, hence a little talking up front (see 1. above) a good idea. But obviously you say no politely and that is the end of it.

Bad rep in a flat rate-interesting concept. Like bad frog in a swamp.

4. Is there anything to do other than drink and go in the back? I actually don't drink, so I would otherwise be sitting around until my body recharged (which is fine; being in a place like that is a once in a lifetime experience).

No. Nothing to do. If you are lucky and smart, this will be once in lifetime experience.

5. Is it dangerous to walk around outside of the club after 10 pm?

No, both neighborhoods fine.

[FieldJohn]

Same questions, but for Caligula also.

[FieldJohn]

I am looking forward to a trip to Berlin, and am intrigued by this flat rate brothel concept, to say the least. I am staying close to King George and am thinking about squeezing in a visit. I have read all of the previous posts on King George, but I want to see if I could get some clarification on a few things:

1. First, and most important, do I just walk up to a girl I like, introduce myself, and ask if we can go in the back? Or do I need to work up to it, with conversation and / or tipping, if I don't want a bad rep? I hope you can appreciate that the experience of having to do absolutely nothing to get it other than ask politely is a little mind blowing on its own, all else aside.

2. On that, do you typically have to wait for girls to be done with other customers? What is the typical guy to girl ratio?

3. How hard will the women push the extras once you get in the back? Can I simply say as nicely as possible, no thank you, you can just take off your clothes and lie down? Again, will I get a bad rep if I'm just taking girls in the back, doing my thing and not pulling out any additional euros in the process?

4. Is there anything to do other than drink and go in the back? I actually don't drink, so I would otherwise be sitting around until my body recharged (which is fine; being in a place like that is a once in a lifetime experience).

5. Is it dangerous to walk around outside of the club after 10 pm? I want to take public transit there and get those most out of my time, but that means I would leave when it is dark outside.

That's all I can think of for now. Thank you in advance for sharing your experience with me.

[Neurosynth]

I am not seeing the "eye" icon. Where?

To the far left there is a vertical column of squarish buttons starting at the top with a "+" button to zoom in.

Go to the bottom of that column and you will see a squarish button with what looks like a stack of poker chips, or a segmented cylinder.

Roll over that button with your mouse and you will get a drop down menu.

Each entry in that menu has an "eye" to the far left, then a magnifying glass, then a text label describing the layer.

Click on the eye and that will make that layer of the map appear.

[Diet Coke]

OK, I see what I was doing wrong. The drop down menu defaults to grey, and clicking on the text does nothing. From that I thought the menu wasn't working.

But what you have to do is click on the "eye" icon. Then the whole section including text darkens and the pins appear on the map.

And it's a pretty good map. (But limited to Germany).

Thanks!

I am not seeing the "eye" icon. Where?

[Neurosynth]

URL shortens in ISG but link works either way. Layers on left side, lowest icon. Click, pull down menu shows display / filter what you need. Eroscenter is also Kino, Ninja think.

OK, I see what I was doing wrong. The drop down menu defaults to grey, and clicking on the text does nothing. From that I thought the menu wasn't working.

But what you have to do is click on the "eye" icon. Then the whole section including text darkens and the pins appear on the map.

And it's a pretty good map. (But limited to Germany).

Thanks!

[Nooky Ninja]

URL shortens in ISG but link works either way. Layers on left side, lowest icon. Click, pull down menu shows display / filter what you need. Eroscenter is also Kino, Ninja think.

But also under All Brothels, Sex Kinos clearly labelled for those who need it (such as occasional wingman Zimmerbaby, the Kino Koenig). This map for all of Germania, not just Berlin. Link above zooms to Berlin using long / lat numbers, but you can also zoom around all DE to find that special something.

Ninja just mention it exists; doubtful really it is so useful. Rare to choose place on basis of location vs who actually gets mojo working. Then you still need to call, and navigating easier with usual suspects. At least keeps mongers who are also nerds busy.

But if you are in Guantanamo Bay cell, and guard wants to know what is bordello closest to Ost Bahnhoff in Berlin, now you can answer.

[Nooky Ninja]

Sorry, but maybe you can help. First, should the URL actually be this?http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/....5374/13.3566.
And then how does one select the correct layer?

URL shortens in ISG but link works either way. Layers on left side, lowest icon. Click, pull down menu shows display / filter what you need. Eroscenter is also Kino, Ninja think.

[Neurosynth]

http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/...-germany_27946#14/52. 5374/13. 3566.

You have display layers you want, but pretty current.

Sorry, but maybe you can help. First, should the URL actually be this?

http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/....5374/13.3566.

And then how does one select the correct layer?

[Nooky Ninja]

Is there a current monger map of Berlin that includes the erotic cinemas? If not does anyone want to help me work on one? I've googled and the only one I found for Berlin looks quite out of date.

http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/...-germany_27946#14/52. 5374/13. 3566.

You have display layers you want, but pretty current.

[BlueBudgie]

Is there a current monger map of Berlin that includes the erotic cinemas? If not does anyone want to help me work on one? I've googled and the only one I found for Berlin looks quite out of date.

[Wild Man]

I was in Germany from March 4th to March 7th.

I visited Airport Girls on the Monday, Annie Porsche on the Tuesday and Total Club Hanover on the Wednesday and I was to shagged to go to any sex club on my final day.

In this report, I will just concentrate on my visit to AG.

This was my 3rd ever visit here. In terms of ladies available, there were about 8 or so of which 5 were ones I would have chosen to play with. In previous visits I saw as many as 12 Girls available for sessioning there in an afternoon. I arrived after having a coffee at the airport at around 11 am. There were already some punters there.

On arrival you are given a wrist band with a locker key and a towel. The lockers are just off the reception area. You disrobe put your stuff in the locker and shower and then go upstairs to the club.

Your €60 entrance allows you all you can drink and up to 5 sessions, which the ladies mark on your wrist band. It used to be 6!

Almost all the ladies are Romanian / Moldovan and apparently, they all were on that day.

Essentially, a few of the Ladies, there I would have absolutely no interest in.

I saw Michaela who is a slim brunette with a gorgeous bum and legs, dressed in grey. I had seen her during my visit over Christmas and I had a delicious covered cum with her in my favourite position which is the reverse missionary. I asked to session with her and she agreed. She brought me into one of the room with a large bed in it and there was a couple playing on one side of it.

The sex began with her stripping and giving a covered BJ which was quite good and then onto sex in a number of positions including my favourite. When my allotted 20 minutes was near I asked her to play with my balls as I gave myself a hand job finish. I came and all in all it was a good start. I found Michaela a bit more personable than the first time, I met her.

So on to the shower for me and back to the bar for a coffee and a soft drink.

Next I spotted Moldovan Anna, Blonde, in her early 30's who is there most days, although I had not seen her before. She is facially pretty and has a fantastic figure, she was in a dress in my county colours. Maroon!

She brought me into a room upstairs which was smaller, but we were alone. She stripped and was quite an engaging person, she started with a lovely BJ and then onto sex in multiple positions with the same result as my first encounter I finished myself off with her encouragement. This was one of the best meetings I had in this place ever.

Post shower and some recooperation, I saw Melissa, AFAIK Gypsy girl, black curly hair, tallish, small tits. I had seen her on my Christmas visit and she provided an OK service.

I called her by her name and requested a session and she said fine. I was brought to a small room again, where it was just the two of us. On with the hat and onto a BJ. She was in a foul mood, so much so that I think even calling her Melisa annoyed her. After a very very functional attempt at the covered BJ we progressed to a ride. She lifted up her grey top partially to reveal those tiny tits and tried to rush me to completion. Again I could only cum myself. This even within the context of an all you can eat sex club was disappointing.

Again after following my post coital routine, I saw Ailina, who is a cutish Romanian Brunette in her late 20's and red lingerie. After me asking her, she brought me to a small room upstairs and I felt it quite sensual to feel her breasts through her red bra, She began with the usual covered BJ and then onto sex in a couple of positions, then back to my usual self hand job with the lady playing with my balls. This time I couldn't actually cum, I hasten to add the lady in question tried her best and was fine in the room.

While I was relaxing in the bar area previously, Ana had approached me and asked me if I was interested in an erotic massage, I said maybe later. Well for my final session, I felt the time was right.

We went together to a small room again. I loved looking at her bum as she moved up the stairs with me. Inside, I brushed my bum of her clothed bum which was quite sensual. She took off her top oiled her hands and told me to lie face down and gave me a passable relaxing massage, she rubbed her boobs of my back and her knickers covered pussy off my legs and ass a couple of times but that was as sensual as it got. When my oily back rub was finished that was that no he, which was another disappointment.

It was now 3.00 pm and time for me to go back to the airport and get my train S45 to my accommodation.

Unlike the last time, none of the girls pole danced in the TV room, the last time Elena a really cute brunette / blonde did and Michaela put in a really good pole dance then as well.

Again, there is no alcohol free beer and this time there was no Cola Light, but there was coffee. They could also do a bit better in supplying deodorant for the lads to use post showering.

In terms of the customers there were a few Germans (BTW during my Christmas visit, one of them said he recognized me from a previous ERW visit), most of the Germans seemed to be Berliners. There was a few lads from Tadjikistan, one Afghan and a couple of black dudes.

All in all, it is what it is and I don't really understand complaints of poor / functional service considering the price. Essentially, outside of Germany, in which first world country can you have the potential to shag as many ladies for such a low price in one venue, I can't think of anywhere!

Also given that its just a few hundred meters walk left out of the main entrance from Schonenfeld Airport. It's a template for all major city airports. Have a sex club nearby!

[Bobo.fr]

Are there any differences between Aller 45, Aston, and Stella Berlin aside from lineup of girls?

I can just say that, at least Sophie was the same at Aston and Aller45 (even if her web pages were slightly different on the two web sites)