Crime, Safety, and the Police

[ScatManDoo]

Well tijuana does carry a stigma, people I know from Guadalajara and Mexico City, think tijuana is just a dirty crime ridden area. Yet people from Guadalajara forget the neighborhoods outside of marketa San Juan de Dios is pretty dangerous anytime of day and people from Mexico City forget they have Tepito. Anyways you must have not read the article because it mentions like 4 different colonias (neighborhoods) that are far away from the actual zona norte or zona areo but that carries onto the entire image of Tijuana.

I actually didn't know Las Vegas was more than just the strip until I went there and found out about downtown Las Vegas or Henderson the city next to it. Obviously you have to be there to know it.

So your supposed friend's ignorance of Tijuana is best explained by your prior ignorance of Las Vegas?

Do any of you read?

[LovesToSploog]

I've been to big cities like Chicago, St. Louis, New Orleans, San Francisco, I could compare the need to be on my toes because I know someone is watching whether it be a criminal and yes law enforcement. Perhaps I made a light statement that the zona norte is safe but when you have military patrolling the streets, that assures me that at least someone is watching out for me. Nonetheless I don't go looking for trouble so I am less likely to be attacked but then again I am aware I can't be a total tourist and act like nothing will happen to me. My point is that that article needs more context than just murders that occur in areas where hobbyist should be going out to, it just adds to the stigma that it is unsafe.

Ehh. Comparing any area of Tijuana (Zona Norte or otherwise) with any US city is completely off mark. It is true that some parts of Tijuana are more dangerous than the others, but the violent crime is spread across the entire city. There have been a number of shootings and murders reported in the Zona and other so-called "safe parts" during the past 18 months. Several murders right in the alley in front of the clubs. Just read the local news.

Tourist areas like the Zona and Centro are certainly safer and better policed than other parts of Tijuana, but they are still order of magnitude more risky than *any* US city. The part that makes everything worse is that Tijuana police is corrupt and targets gringos for extortion. So we have to be on the alert not just against the criminals, but the cops as well. We should not fool ourselves into thinking we are completely safe in the Zona.

[LovesToSploog]

Well tijuana does carry a stigma, people I know from Guadalajara and Mexico City, think tijuana is just a dirty crime ridden area. Yet people from Guadalajara forget the neighborhoods outside of marketa San Juan de Dios is pretty dangerous anytime of day and people from Mexico City forget they have Tepito. Anyways you must have not read the article because it mentions like 4 different colonias (neighborhoods) that are far away from the actual zona norte or zona areío but that carries onto the entire image of Tijuana.

I actually didn't know Las Vegas was more than just the strip until I went there and found out about downtown Las Vegas or Henderson the city next to it. Obviously you have to be there to know it.

Just wondering, who do you know that thinks Tijuana is just a little neighborhood of a larger city named " That would be equal to thinking Las Vegas is just a little section of a big city named "The Strip."

[Ctytek]

I have heard of those. Tijuana murder rate per capita is about 3 times higher than Flint. You can look up the statistics and do the math yourself. Tijuana is the 5th highest murder rate city in the world. You can also add the major level of police corruption and general dysfunction to the mix. This generally doesn't exist in the US on that level.

Have you ever heard about the murder rates of Flint Michigan? How about the violent crimes rates in nearby Detroit? Oakland California?

[ClamSlammer]

For what is it, people tend to think that tijuana is one area in a city but in reality it's a large city with different little neighborhoods.

Just wondering, who do you know that thinks Tijuana is just a little neighborhood of a larger city named " That would be equal to thinking Las Vegas is just a little section of a big city named "The Strip."

[ScatManDoo]

Ehh. Comparing any area of Tijuana (Zona Norte or otherwise) with any US city is completely off mark. It is true that some parts of Tijuana are more dangerous than the others, but the violent crime is spread across the entire city. There have been a number of shootings and murders reported in the Zona and other so-called "safe parts" during the past 18 months. Several murders right in the alley in front of the clubs. Just read the local news.

Tourist areas like the Zona and Centro are certainly safer and better policed than other parts of Tijuana, but they are still order of magnitude more risky than *any* US city.

Have you ever heard about the murder rates of Flint Michigan? How about the violent crimes rates in nearby Detroit? Oakland California?

[Ctytek]

Ehh. Comparing any area of Tijuana (Zona Norte or otherwise) with any US city is completely off mark. It is true that some parts of Tijuana are more dangerous than the others, but the violent crime is spread across the entire city. There have been a number of shootings and murders reported in the Zona and other so-called "safe parts" during the past 18 months. Several murders right in the alley in front of the clubs. Just read the local news.

Tourist areas like the Zona and Centro are certainly safer and better policed than other parts of Tijuana, but they are still order of magnitude more risky than *any* US city. The part that makes everything worse is that Tijuana police is corrupt and targets gringos for extortion. So we have to be on the alert not just against the criminals, but the cops as well. We should not fool ourselves into thinking we are completely safe in the Zona.

people can get the wrong idea of going to Tijuana, since most of the murders happen in neighborhoods that no hobbyists should be venturing off to. Zona Norte, Revolucion, zona areo are my stomping grounds and I have not felt any dangers being there with company or by myself. Obviously you need to be witty and aware of people watching you but that goes for anywhere you travel.

[LovesToSploog]

Thanks for the example. I'm from Santa Ana, I'm well aware of the dangers of big cities, however, from that article people can get the wrong idea of going to Tijuana, since most of the murders happen in neighborhoods that no hobbyists should be venturing off to. Zona Norte, Revolucion, zona areío are my stomping grounds and I have not felt any dangers being there with company or by myself. Obviously you need to be witty and aware of people watching you but that goes for anywhere you travel.

Los Angeles is a very big city, just like Tijuana. There are many places I would not go during the day or night in LA. I would go to Disneyland 24 hours a day. Think of the La Zona as your Disneyland (Adult) but Disneyland.

[Orlanr]

For what is it, people tend to think that tijuana is one area in a city but in reality it's a large city with different little neighborhoods. I read the article and looked up the neighborhoods where the murders happened and I highly doubt anyone will be going off into the neighborhood in the day let alone the night. If you are venturing off to those neighborhoods, you're looking for trouble and trouble will obviously find you. The main area in the revolucion is safe, hell military humvees patrol the area. I went there last week from Friday to Sunday night and I couldn't believe how sprawling it was. A better context to the article should be posted since most members here won't be trying to find chickas there.

Los Angeles is a very big city, just like Tijuana. There are many places I would not go during the day or night in LA. I would go to Disneyland 24 hours a day. Think of the La Zona as your Disneyland (Adult) but Disneyland.

[Jackie888]

Is this being reported by any news source that has at least a tiny bit of credibility?

LOL, mongers that rely on breitBard should wear undersized bullet proof jackets when visiting Tijuana.

[WombatEd2]

https://www.breitbart.com .

Is this being reported by any news source that has at least a tiny bit of credibility?

[LovesToSploog]

For what is it, people tend to think that tijuana is one area in a city but in reality it's a large city with different little neighborhoods. I read the article and looked up the neighborhoods where the murders happened and I highly doubt anyone will be going off into the neighborhood in the day let alone the night. If you are venturing off to those neighborhoods, you're looking for trouble and trouble will obviously find you. The main area in the revolucion is safe, hell military humvees patrol the area. I went there last week from Friday to Sunday night and I couldn't believe how sprawling it was. A better context to the article should be posted since most members here won't be trying to find chickas there.

https://www.breitbart.com .

6 April 2019.

Robert Arce.

"Cartel-related drug violence continues in the border city of Tijuana with 21 killings registered in less than a 48-hour period. Those deaths include three bodies abandoned in a burning vehicle.

The killings began just after midnight on Wednesday when firefighters received a call about an abandoned vehicle burning on a dirt road in colonia Can del Padre. After firefighters extinguished the flames, they discovered the badly burned corpse of an unknown victim in the back seat. Upon opening the trunk, they then discovered two more badly burned bodies, according to local media reports. . . "

Commenter: "There's a hot time in the old town tonight!" General advice if you do not want to visit the Tijuana morgue: Avoid being near dudes yelling "Cuanto, Cuanto. . . They tend to be bullet magnets".

[DramaFree11]

https://www.breitbart.com .

6 April 2019.

Robert Arce.

"Cartel-related drug violence continues in the border city of Tijuana with 21 killings registered in less than a 48-hour period. Those deaths include three bodies abandoned in a burning vehicle.

The killings began just after midnight on Wednesday when firefighters received a call about an abandoned vehicle burning on a dirt road in colonia Can del Padre. After firefighters extinguished the flames, they discovered the badly burned corpse of an unknown victim in the back seat. Upon opening the trunk, they then discovered two more badly burned bodies, according to local media reports. . . "

Commenter: "There's a hot time in the old town tonight!" General advice if you do not want to visit the Tijuana morgue: Avoid being near dudes yelling "Cuanto, Cuanto. . . They tend to be bullet magnets".

Yes, it is getting worse all over Mexico and probably with get much worse before if gets better. Time to be very careful.

[Travv]

https://www.breitbart.com .

6 April 2019.

Robert Arce.

"Cartel-related drug violence continues in the border city of Tijuana with 21 killings registered in less than a 48-hour period. Those deaths include three bodies abandoned in a burning vehicle.

The killings began just after midnight on Wednesday when firefighters received a call about an abandoned vehicle burning on a dirt road in colonia Cañón del Padre. After firefighters extinguished the flames, they discovered the badly burned corpse of an unknown victim in the back seat. Upon opening the trunk, they then discovered two more badly burned bodies, according to local media reports. . . "

Commenter: "There's a hot time in the old town tonight!" General advice if you do not want to visit the Tijuana morgue: Avoid being near dudes yelling "Cuanto, Cuanto. . . They tend to be bullet magnets".

[DramaFree11]

Saturday night after midnight we were driving back on Benito Juarez towards the border via the medical lane. At the Miguel Negrete intersection, one block before the street splits out in three, with lots of body shops and the Haitian flop houses, 5 cop cars parked on both sides of the street flashing red and blue beacons. They were stopping and looking into each car at that intersection.

The road block was not an alcohol check point usually set up after midnight with the big truck flashing its yellow beacon, keeping a couple pretty girls, who run the breath analyzer, warm. The old, hardened cop looked hard into our car. I asked him "Qure pasa?" he quickly waved us through. They did pull over a few cars with California plates but definitely were not looking for drunk drivers. Perhaps the mayor wanted them to catch the little pendejo who fucked both his daughter and his wife and made them both pregnant, or perhaps the cartel guys who were late with installments hehe.

Glad Tijuana's tax dollar is putting policias to do something besides hanging out near La Zona to shake down gringos for morditas. Tijuana should try to hold the world's record for the largest number of hot, sexy, nubile female bodies in bars, not cold, stiff, bloody, rotting bodies in the morgue. Have to find alternate route South to avoid that check point and get to Pade Kino / Sentri lanes in the future. It's strange but Tijuana has no, read zero, policia patrol outside of la Zona Norte, nada! Perhaps the bars pool their money and donate heavily to the mayor's charity foundation every month.

Sorry, just not the risk of driving into Tijuana now, to save a few bucks. Until everything levels out, just park, walk across the border and take UBer. Just not worth saving a few bucks.