Cartagena Reports

[ThadMax]

So. I feel like it's the Mandela Effect with Club Pley LOL. Has anyone been able to confirm that it's still open? It's been a ghost-town on my last couple of trips and was one of my favorite spots in all of Colombia. Sad if it's true that it's been permanently shut down.

[Linyjo]

Well I must say reading some of the rare long reports can be interesting. Some read like a playboy forum. One wonders at times of the awesome skill in love making of the gentlemen who go to the trouble of writing these trip reports.

That you for your interest. Although I find it a bit odd, feel free to wonder about my love making ability, I am a live and let live kind of guy. No judgement here.

Since I do not swing that way, I have no desire to partake in activities such as wondering about other guys sexual skills but I respect that you enjoy thinking about it. To each his own, I always say.

With so many wonderful orgasmos I wonder how these lucky girls can take their payment without a little feeling of guilt?

It is not difficult to turn a woman into a "lucky woman" by making her orgasm. It is quite easy actually. Maybe I just have a knack for such things but I assume there are many men that have no issues making a woman orgasm or enjoy having sex with them.

When I was in my 20's I worked as a bouncer in a strip club. Great job. I saw beautiful naked women all night, banged many of them and enjoyed getting paid to punch unruly and sarcastic men in the face. Although I loved the job, I never felt guilty picking up my check at the end of the week. I suspect there are many people that have fun at work and don't feel guilty getting paid, I am not sure why this work would be any different.

[HBoy54]

Well I must say reading some of the rare long reports can be interesting. Some read like a playboy forum. One wonders at times of the awesome skill in love making of the gentlemen who go to the trouble of writing these trip reports.

With so many wonderful orgasmos I wonder how these lucky girls can take their payment without a little feeling of guilt?

More like Penthouse forum.

[JustTK]

Well I must say reading some of the rare long reports can be interesting. Some read like a playboy forum. One wonders at times of the awesome skill in love making of the gentlemen who go to the trouble of writing these trip reports.

With so many wonderful orgasmos I wonder how these lucky girls can take their payment without a little feeling of guilt?

Haha. Very true.

[TadaiMaybe]

I will use my last trip exchange price and my bank which is Bank of America as an example.

Exchanging $100 usd, I get 280,000 at kiosk with cash and I get 290,360 at ATM.

The difference is $3.70 USD.

The ATM charges me $2.50 or 3.50 depending on which ATM I use.

My bank charges me $3.50 for using a non network ATM.

I lose $6 to $7 for using an ATM vs the $3. 70 I lose using the cash exchange.

Most ATM's cap your withdrawal around the $250 USD limit. (about $8 lost when changing $250 at kiosk).

As you can see, it all kind of equals out no matter which way you make the transaction.

In the end, it is not a financial decision, it's a matter of preference, convenience and removing the mistakes and bullshit that happens at foreign ATM's which was what sparked the original conversation.

As always there's always some exception to the general sentiment. I am not sure why BoA gave you such bad rate. My use of ATMs have always resulted in a better conversion rate than the kiosks anywhere in CTG. I have Wells Fargo and got close to 3170 cop to 1 USD at ATMs but only 2800 at the kiosks. Even with the ATM fees it was still a better deal. Other notable item is that almost all hotels, restaurants and bars etc do accept credit cards and you get a great exchange rate on a CC transaction. You only need cash for chicas and taxis, for the most part, limiting the need for exchanging currency. To boot many credit cards nowadays don't have foreign transaction fees anymore.

[John Gault]

Well I must say reading some of the rare long reports can be interesting. Some read like a playboy forum. One wonders at times of the awesome skill in love making of the gentlemen who go to the trouble of writing these trip reports.

With so many wonderful orgasmos I wonder how these lucky girls can take their payment without a little feeling of guilt?

[Linyjo]

Thursday afternoon, the sun is setting so I guess it is around 6:30 pm. Our nap was cut short as we wake up to doors closing, music playing and talking on the patio. I throw on some shorts to use the bathroom. On the way out of the bathroom I hear the shower is running in wingman's room. I head out to the deck and wingman is out there with his girl. You left your shower on I say to him as his girlfriend heads to the kitchen. No, he says, her sister in law is using the shower.

What the fuck is going on I ask. Are you insane dude, you know I have Maria here. I know he says. She came to hang out at the pool with his girl and needed to shower before heading out. I am of course livid and call out bro code violation #2. I tell him not cool and she needs to go. He says she knows I have another girl here, she will be cool. She was warned no drama. I am having none of it, she has to go, now. He tells me how he didn't know she was coming to the pool, his girl asked her over the day before and he didn't know it wasn't cancelled. After hanging at pool, girlfriend told her she could use the shower. He knows it's not cool and will get rid of her. I tell him I am going to my room and to let me know when the coast is clear.

I go to kitchen to grab some drinks and snacks for me and my girl and his girlfriend can tell I am not happy at all. She is sitting on the counter top and she pulls me into her, she puts her arms around my neck, pushing her great tits against my chest as she talks over my shoulder into her phone for translator. She tells me she is sorry, she shouldn't have let her come inside. She promised there would be no drama and please forgive her. It was wrong. She does not want me to be uncomfortable in my own place and to not worry. You are very nice and share this place with me she tells me, she really is sorry if I am upset. I tell her no worries, just fix the problem and head off to my room.

I tell my girl that my wingman has brought back a guest and needs to use the condo for a little bit. We will hang here in my room to give him some privacy. I brought snacks and beers. She says no problem and lays back on the bed while I hand her the remote for the television. We just lay there watching television for about 30 minutes and wingman texts me that she is gone, coast is clear. I am still fuming a bit but girlfriend rolled a joint and I am now in a mellow place. I don't know what's going on with wingman, we have traveled many times before, six or eight trips to Costa Rica, Mexico and Columbia over the last 4 years, without ever a problem. Now we got two bro code violations in two days. The first was bad enough but this one, I feel like he invaded my space. I love him like a brother and we make allowances for each other but I was thinking this one is going to stick with me for a bit.

Mellowed by the smoke and a sexy naked chica snuggled up to me and purring in my ear, I am ready to move on. I ask her if she is hungry and she shakes her head yes. With a laugh and a wet kiss she tells me orgasms make her hungry and she arrived three times already. I tell her time to get up and meet my wingman and his girl. She immediately tenses up becoming obviously nervous. I ask her what is wrong and she says she is nervous meeting new people and is worried they won't like her. I assure her that this is not a test, she is not meeting my parents. They accept you already as you are with me. The same as you will accept them because they are with me. She nods she understands and gets dressed. I head to the patio to have a smoke and talking with wingman while his girl is now in the shower. Wingman heads to kitchen and I am standing at the patio door to the living room as Maria comes out to the patio through the bedroom door. I invite her over to me and she stands beside me as I wrap my arm around her and yell to wingman to meet my girl. He starts to walk towards us from the kitchen and Maria steps behind me, as if to hide.

He just laughs and so do I, she is a shy one he says and I just say be nice dude. He stands beside me and holds out his hand to her, with her head down, she accepts his hand and he introduces himself in Spanish to tell her nice to meet her. She responds in kind never taking her eyes off the floor. I am finding this all kind of weird, where is the girl that didn't break eye contact with me since the moment she got here. He talks to her for a few minutes in Spanish and she is coming around a little. I break the death grip she has on my hips and step away to let them have some breathing room. Sheepishly she backs up to the table and sits on the high bar stool and asks me if she can roll a joint. Of course sweetie, you can do whatever you want, whenever you want. Wingman joins in and tells her, you are on vacation with us now, relax and enjoy your time here and walks back to the kitchen.

I ask her if she is OK and she said yes, he seems nice, I am just nervous, I do not want to reflect badly on you. No idea what she is talking about but I just tell her to be her and have fun. No one here is going to judge you. I go and get her a beer and we talk food. We decide we will just order downstairs to the restaurant attached to the building called Caribbean Gourmet. I order us a large vegetarian pizza and we have a few drinks while we wait. (Pizza and chicken there is awesome).

When we talked earlier she told me she doesn't like Montana, so I head to bedroom to lay some down by myself and take another 100 MG blue genie. I can hear wingman talking to her in Spanish and the tone tells me she is loosening up a bit and relaxing more. Wingman's girl joins them and the girls say Hello, to each other and not much else. I blast way too much Montana as I want to finish what I got tonight and be done with it for the rest of the trip. Since sister in law was such a hoover, 4 g was already gone and I had about 1 g left. Back to the patio and wings girl is settled in to the dining table in the corner of the patio with an Ipad to play DJ while my girl stays at the bar top, rolling another joint while we party and wait for the food.

I ask wings girl if she has met Maria and she shakes her head yes and goes back to her task. She is being stand offish and that is not helping my girl relax and fit in. Rather gruff I think, don't be a * u are on shaky ground with me to begin with.

Food arrives and we are having two separate parties on the patio, him and me just paying attention to our girls and not interacting together much. The patio is about 20 feet long and we are at separate ends, having fun and enjoying being with our girls. We smoke and drink and dance and cuddle and kiss and play grab ass for a few hours. Listening to the music, enjoying the breeze and teasing each other with our hands and mouths.

She says I am making her horny, take me to bed please. Off we go to the bedroom for another session of hot love making. We are not fucking, we are making love like on a honeymoon. Total GFE and more. Slow, sexy and constant kissing. I eat her out until she has an orgasm but this time I stay there and keep licking and playing with her until she has another orgasm. Still on her back, I do some lazy stroking into her while I lay on my side with her craning her neck to the side to keep kiss me while I am slow stroking her and running my hands over her chest. I blast off and finish after only ten minutes of being inside. She is so fucking tight, damn. She flips over to face me and we snuggle and kiss for a while with her stroking my hair and I ask if she wants to get up or go to sleep. She wants to get up and have a beer and a smoke she says. We go back to the patio and wing and his girl are gone. We have a few beers, she smokes a joint and we sway back and forth to the music at the edge of the patio, me behind her with arms wrapped around her as we look down at the empty beach and the awesome view of the bay and the island in the distance.

After a while, with her ass against my crotch and her purring from me kissing her neck, I am hard again and we head back to bed. She lays me down and starts to give me oral, same as before, eye contact, sexy looks letting it be known she is happy and enjoying what she is doing. I motion for her to climb aboard but she shakes her head no, points to her mouth and goes back to giving oral. Five minutes later I am blowing in her mouth with a toe curling orgasm. She doesn't swallow much of it, she lets it dribble out and down to my balls.

She grabs the towel off the end of the bed and wipes her mouth and cleans me up. She works her way up to me, face to face and goes in to kiss me. I point to the water bottle on the night stand, she laughs, jumps up and drinks it and then comes back to make out for a while. Exhausted, time for some sleep. Me on my back, her head on my chest and her legs wrapped around me like an octopus. With both of our happy meters at a 10, we fall asleep together to end a long day. I still had that stupid corny song in my head.

"Glen Miller's band was better than before.

We yelled and screamed for more.

And those Porter's tunes made us dance across the room".

As I drifted off to sleep.

[KillaCam11]

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[Linyjo]

Thursday afternoon and I am riding a high. Finally relieved of the pressure and strolling back to the condo with a corny song running through my head. Starved for a connection instead of the disconnect I have had for days, I look forward to the upcoming weekend, surely things are on the upswing. Time to get this trip on track.

I get back to the condo with a smile on my face, delivering the beer and smokes to my wingman who looks like he had some fun too while I was gone. The two of them just lounging on the couch, him watching TV and her playing with her phone.

I head to my room, lay down some Montana and crack a beer. An hour and a half until her bus leaves, I check in with Maria to see if she is getting to the bus station on time. I am not sure I am going to come today she says. Claudia told me 200,000 ($72) a day and I am not sure that is enough for me. I am a Colombian not a Venezuelan.

Considering what happened the last few nights with a lack of clarity, it's time to get things straight or just move on to the next one. I don't like that she decides to bring up the money issue so late in the process, we already talked about this. It has put me on the defensive and makes me wonder what I am dealing with. Is she going to play games the entire stay? Is the ball going to move at every turn, every request? I am thinking maybe I should just bail out and move on.

I lay out the basics of what I am looking for, no condom blowjobs and sex at least 3 times a day with zero drama. I will cover the bus ride and taxi to get her here and at any point I am not happy, I will pay you what I owe you and send you packing. How much per day do you want to make you happy?

She says 300,000 ($107) would be good for her and help with her school bills. I tell her that is fine but I expect to made extra happy at all times and remind her again, if at any point I don't think you are earning your money, I will send you away. No problem, I promise you will be happy. Fine, get on the bus and get your ass over here I tell her. She asks if it's OK if she brings Cheech and Chong with her, that she likes to smoke a little. I tell her no problem. She texts me 40 minutes later, she is at the bus station waiting for the bus, see me in 2 hours.

I spend that time cleaning up my space, taking a shower and shaving while I wait. Maybe it's the Montana but I am now getting edgy, resenting the last minute stick up. The kind of antics I usually don't put up with and especially surprised since she came recommended from a girlfriend. It is not about the money that is bugging me, it's still a good rate, it is the principal of the matter. I would have happily agreed to it from the beginning but I am put off by the late in the game jacking.

I got the towels and sheets washed and dried and remake the bed as the text that she has arrived comes. She asks me to meet her downstairs at the street. I tell her no problem and I make sure I have small bills in my pockets to cover the taxi. I bump a few more lines, take a 100 MG blue genie and then do something I have not done in 10 years, I invite wingman to join me and we shotgun a beer. It goes down quick and smooth, rather refreshing. I tell wingman she is on the way and I am going down to meet her. He says he won't be here when I come back up, he will take his girl to the pool so we can have some privacy for a few hours to let her settle in. I head downstairs.

As I hit the street I realize I have the perfect buzz going. Perfect equilibrium of the substances in my body at that point, I feel good. Buzz factor is a 9 out of 10. Taxi shows up and I open her door to retrieve her and pay the taxi. She has already paid him, nice move I think to myself, not expecting me to handle it. I pull her out of the cab and she is gorgeous. Exactly as her pictures but even better. 20 years old, not as short as I thought her head at my shoulders. Being 6-4 I don't meet many woman that I can kiss without bending over. She is thin, small breast, perfect ass and smelling very nice. She is wearing a half shirt and tight jeans, showing off a perfectly flat stomach with no damage and that ass to die for. She gives me a nice wet kiss on the lips, a short hug and hands me her bag. Damn its heavy and packed to the gills. It's only 3 days baby, what the hell you got in there? I bring her inside the lobby and start to approach the registration desk. He just waves me forward and points to the elevator. Gracias Amigo.

Up to the condo, I show her our room, offer her some space in the closet and show her the bathroom and tell her if she needs anything, just tell me. I leave her to settle in and head to the patio and put on some music. A few minutes later she joins me and we make small talk for a few minutes. I get her a beer and she rolls herself a joint. We smoke that and she is enjoying the view from the patio, directly on the water and overlooking the beach.

I'm sitting in a high chair futzing on my phone and she comes over and takes my phone out of my hand and puts it on the table. She wraps her arms around my neck and falls into me for a full body hug. She felt right in my arms, smelled awesome and I push her hair away from her long neck and start kissing and licking her neck and near her ears. She says I have found her weak spot and whispers to me, kiss me handsome. I take my time, removing the hair from her face, taking her face in my hands and kissing her. She was very responsive, kissing me back, quiet moans and heavy breath, pushing her chest out to rub against mine. I got my hands on her ass, lightly cupping and squeezing the cheeks that fit my hands so perfect.

She says I am making her horny, please take me to bed. I take her to the bedroom and pull the drapes. She is standing beside the bed waiting for me with a smile and come fuck me eyes. I like the fact she is not taking her clothes off, I like to unwrap my own presents. I have a raging hard on but I am going to take my time with this. More french kissing and nibbling, running our hands over each other's bodies. She is trying to pull her top off but I stop her. A wag of the finger to her face, then pointing to myself. She understands, I want to do it myself. She is getting impatient and I am liking it. I spin her around so her back is to me and pull her shirt up over her head. Her arms wrap around my neck as I run my hands over her perfect stomach and nice tits while I nibble on her neck and shoulders. Her nipples are raging and after some tweaking, I reach down and unbuckle her jeans, she lets out a sigh and moan while pushing her ass back against me.

I spin her back around and she pulls my shirt off then pushes her pert little breasts against my chest. I can feel the heat coming from her body, she starts to work the belt on my pants but I gentle push her back on to the bed and start to pull off her jeans. Ass in air to help and they slide off leaving her small white panties on. She tried to sit up and work my belt again but I just push her back again and nudge her to move up to the top of the bed where the pillows are as I lay down between her legs. Knowing what is coming, she has a huge smile on her face. I start licking her thighs and inside her legs and licking her through her panties. She is totally digging it and tries to pull down her panties, I stop her again and just point to myself. A huge smile and a roll of the eyes as she collapses back against the pillows, letting out a little squeal to let me know she is having fun and spreads her legs a little wider while letting out a moan. I lick and tease her for a while through her panties, my hands rubbing softly across her flat stomach and brushing across her rock hard nipples.

I pull her panties off and she props some pillows up so she can watch. What a beautiful pussy. Totally shaven and small. A perfect slit, no lips sticks out, no roast beef sandwich sticking out. This pussy has not taken a lot of abuse, I could not even see any lips. [Deleted by Admin]. I lick her softly, barely touching her slit. Letting some drool drip from my mouth and slide down her opening. Her moans and heavy breathing is cheering me on. Her hands on my head, her fingers gently brushing through my hair. She is pushing her ass up to try and get some tongue, she is getting impatient. I give her some stiff tongue running up and down her slit and start licking her clit, alternating between that and her small tight and tasty hole. Her soft hands are starting to turn to hand grips, trying to control my head and push my face into her crotch. Her breathing is rapid now and I sense she is close to cumming. With long tongue strokes from bottom to top, her hands on my head and hips thrusting, she screams something in Spanish and makes a frantic up and down motion with her hips while cumming hard as I stay on her clit.

As she finishes coming, her legs are shaking and she can longer take any licking. I know she really came from how overly sensitive she got there and I enjoy just brushing my tongue and lips across her pussy as she shakes and moans. She pulls me up and I am holding myself above her with my arms while I kiss her. She sucks her juice off my lips, moaning and licking her own lips. I lay down beside her, my head on her chest, playing with her nipples and giving her a moment to rest. She pushes me back to get up. I roll onto my back figuring she wants to get out bed but no, she just wants to take her turn. She pulls my pants and underwear off and just stares at my hard on. I am throbbing and he is dancing around, inviting her. She laughs as I make it move without touching it and grabs it in her hand.

She gets on all fours between my legs, I can see her perfect heart shaped ass peaking up and she lowers her head into my lap. She follows my lead and takes her time, teasing and licking me while alternating some mouth action and full strokes down to half way on my throbbing manhood. She almost never breaks eye contact the entire time she is giving me head. A beautiful smile, alluring eyes and a sexy look. She knows I am watching and she is putting on a show, just like I had done. She would dribble some drool out of her mouth, allowing it to run down the entire length of my shaft, before licking it up from the bottom to the top, all while keeping her eyes burned onto mine. Sexy and erotic is the best way to describe the way she was working me. She was completely enjoying herself, enjoyed teasing me and made every effort to let me know it.

I got my hands on head, not pushing, just following along and using my fingers to keep her hair out of the way. She took my hands in hers and just used her mouth for a while, long deep strokes as far as she could. She could only get about half way before having to retreat for air and to avoid the gag reflex. After a while, I reach to the nightstand and hand her a condom. She smiled from ear to ear, put on the wrap and mounted me. Again, almost never taking her eyes from mine, she was driving me crazy. She rubs the head around her hole and tries to slide down on me but she is a tight fit. A very tight fit. She is reaching behind her to spread her cheeks to try to help but it is still a struggle to get inside her. She wet as the ocean and I am being patient, gently pushing up as she pushes down. She drops her chest to mine, kissing me as she pushes harder to force me inside her. Once I finally am in her fully, she slowly sits up, hands on my chest and gently rocking back and forth, eyes locked on mine, mouth open and looking like an angel.

She is so tight I can't really stroke at her from here but I don't want to anyway. I am in no rush, enjoying the view and the feeling of the wet grip on my hard on. She starts moving her hips back and forth with more urgency, breath quickening and deepening, obviously her second orgasm is coming. She starts to jack rabbit back and forth and moving her hips side to side, driving me as deep as I can get into her. With a squeal and yelp, she cums again, this one more forceful than the last. Her hair a mess, her smile wide and her lips glistening with spit, she looks so erotic and sexy and I am in heaven.

She collapses on to my chest, her hands in mine, her sweat dripping from her face into a puddle on my chest. I let her lay there a bit until her breathing drops from the heavy pant to a shallow groan. With a big smile she sits up and kisses me more as I roll her onto her side. Rocking back and forth, legs wrapped around each other in a tangled web and her body fully against mine. Her head laying on my arm, eyes locked on mine when not kissing me. My hands on her ass, pulling her closer and getting deeper inside her, she is thrusting back, moaning and encouraging me to keep moving. Her legs are so tight around mine, I still can't stroke, it feels like my cock is in a vise grip. We rock back and forth and thrust at each other under I finally let loose and drop a load into the condom while inside her. She can feel it throbbing and makes more squeal sounds and closes her eyes, I think she just came with me.

Exhausted, satisfied and totally drained, I pull off the condom and drop it on the floor besides the bed. We just lay there, me on my back with my arms wrapped around her, her lying beside me with her legs wrapped around mine, her head on my chest and her arm wrapped around my neck. Last I can remember, I am stroking her hair and she is whispering a bunch of Spanish I can't understand, as we both drift off to sleep.

"Well that's the way it began, we were hand-in-hand" Reminiscing.

[Linyjo]

Just compute the exchange rate from the exchange place (COP_out / USD_in) and compare with what you get from an ATM (Servibanca gives 720k COP, thus reducing the impact of any fixed fee).
Maestro (Mastercard debit card circuit) charges 1.25% or 1.5% over the official inter-bank daily rate). The fixed fees per transaction are usually in range 3-5 USD, or most commonly are in that range, unless one finds special deals. All this is still more convenient than the surcharge applied by most exchange shops (5%? 20% at rip-off booths in airports).
Just be sure to use the DEBIT and not the CREDIT function, because the latter adds 4% fee.

There is only one single place I ever visited in the world where I found significant advantage in exchanging USD cash for local currency: Batam, Indonesia. There, exchange shops for large bills can even give nearly the same rate reported by XE, and once in my life even better than that.

I will use my last trip exchange price and my bank which is Bank of America as an example.

Exchanging $100 usd, I get 280,000 at kiosk with cash and I get 290,360 at ATM.

The difference is $3.70 USD.

The ATM charges me $2.50 or 3.50 depending on which ATM I use.

My bank charges me $3.50 for using a non network ATM.

I lose $6 to $7 for using an ATM vs the $3. 70 I lose using the cash exchange.

Most ATM's cap your withdrawal around the $250 USD limit. (about $8 lost when changing $250 at kiosk).

As you can see, it all kind of equals out no matter which way you make the transaction.

In the end, it is not a financial decision, it's a matter of preference, convenience and removing the mistakes and bullshit that happens at foreign ATM's which was what sparked the original conversation.

[YippieKayay]

I agree, it was obvious by the way he framed the question, that he was asking about when you "wife up" with a girl.

I thought I answered it? 400 k a day. Although if I was going on a trip I would just give a lump sum at the end which is around 200-300 k a day. If in doubt you can just ask her what she expects.

[Black Page]

I am probably the minority but I got sick of ATM's that rip you off and bank fees. I just bring $1,000 in $100 bills. Exchange a few hundred at a time at an exchange place and keep the rest in the safe or well hidden in an envelope in the condo.

Just compute the exchange rate from the exchange place (COP_out / USD_in) and compare with what you get from an ATM (Servibanca gives 720k COP, thus reducing the impact of any fixed fee).
Maestro (Mastercard debit card circuit) charges 1.25% or 1.5% over the official inter-bank daily rate). The fixed fees per transaction are usually in range 3-5 USD, or most commonly are in that range, unless one finds special deals. All this is still more convenient than the surcharge applied by most exchange shops (5%? 20% at rip-off booths in airports).
Just be sure to use the DEBIT and not the CREDIT function, because the latter adds 4% fee.

There is only one single place I ever visited in the world where I found significant advantage in exchanging USD cash for local currency: Batam, Indonesia. There, exchange shops for large bills can even give nearly the same rate reported by XE, and once in my life even better than that.

[Linyjo]

I think he meant on a trip to another place in the country like Santa Marta or San Andreas.

I agree, it was obvious by the way he framed the question, that he was asking about when you "wife up" with a girl.

[Starlord1]

Nothing. I don't pay chicas for company, ever. If one shows up at the beach with her friends she may get some free drinks but I don't pay them to join me there.

I pay to fuck them. It's 200 k for short time or 400 k as a daily rate (to fuck them). These numbers vary a bit based on the situation but they are generally true for me.

I think he meant on a trip to another place in the country like Santa Marta or San Andreas.

[YippieKayay]

How much do you pay the girl per day if you take her on a trip if you've already built a good relationship with her. Obviously we're already taking care of food, accommodations and travel. Just wondering what a good price to look for would be.

Nothing. I don't pay chicas for company, ever. If one shows up at the beach with her friends she may get some free drinks but I don't pay them to join me there.

I pay to fuck them. It's 200 k for short time or 400 k as a daily rate (to fuck them). These numbers vary a bit based on the situation but they are generally true for me.