Costa del Sol (Southern Coast) / Malaga

[Andalus Expat]

I'll be on the CDS next week to take you under my wing again for the advanced lessons on Club tactics. Another selection of advise based on failed practise and selective memory but highly amusing as always from you. Attend a Puti Club because you enjoy what they have to offer. La Liga live, good bar selection, plush surroundings, Latin Music, good bar service and great selection of WGs one of whom you may want to bang because to you she is a 9 with an allure that is captivating. Always be prepared to walk out of Club without having been upstairs but don't curse the WGs because on that occasion there was nothing there for you. Have fun, enjoy this escapism and don't take it too seriously. Of course your experiences are individual to you. You speak no Spanish and cannot communicate and Latinas won't waste there time on you which as you mentioned is a commodity. Remember the WGs at E92 shouting arrogant at you. Yet Denise who I have met many times and is content enough to talk with me freely when she has no other fish to fry! You were begging for an introduction to her and her bunda. You can't worry about whether you are going to upset a WG by not immediately buying her a drink and going upstairs with her. Why worry about what they think. It's a rejection game. In civilian life they don't experience this especially the pretty and young ones. It's a business transaction which you are going to get the best deal from by doing a thorough Q & A and if the conversation is flowing and she is beautiful and sexy where is the problem in buying her a drink.

Very amusing, Pepe. If you remember, the last time we met in 92 I brought my own puta with me. While you upstairs ploughing your Colombian we were chatting with Denise. Girls got on well together. They are both brasilenas. Now added to our ever expanding circle of friends and visitor to the apartment. But we don't generally go to puti clubs. It's a work environment and we go out to enjoy ourselves. If I want to schmooze pretty girls I do it in a bar or normal club with civilians. If I want bedroom entertainment I get girls round and enjoy them in the luxury they deserve. Soft lights, satin sheets, funky music, any refreshment they might like. And of course I do have the advantage of the one who lives with me (No she's not a girlfriend. She's a friend) Outcalls are always fraught for girls. Precarious environment, never knowing what to expect. What they get is a friendly happy home with someone exactly like themselves who they can chat with over a welcoming drink. So, at the moment, I've got half a dozen or more regular favourites at the end of a phone call. (But there's always more to be added.) Why would I want to bargain with club girls? To me it's excruciatingly boring. Particularly as I've heard all too often what it's like from the other side of the make-up and the false smile.

For someone needing instructions, I'm doing pretty well for myself. There'll be half a dozen of the local talent round for Sunday lunch this Easter weekend. Cuisine Bahiana cooked by an expert.

Down the thread someone was asking what's happened to Fuengirola Port? Sorry. We tried to revive it, last summer. Tony, who ran the original FP for years is a mate and he came over from the UK last June to help me get it going again in a big villa I was renting. We even took on some of the original girls. The newspaper advertising cost a packet. By September, it was obvious it wasn't working. Simple matter of economics. You need a level of throughput of clients to make a thing like that viable and we weren't getting it. Reasons? A bit further away from the centre of town might have been a factor. Although a plus was easy parking right outside the door. Couldn't have been the facilities. A luxury villa with poolside bar, sauna and extensive gardens was a vast improvement on a cramped apartment. OK, the prices were inevitably a bit higher because puta prices in general have risen considerably in recent years. When Tony was running FP, the general apartment rates were 50-60€/ hour. They're now more like 90-100. And that reflects what girls expect to earn. Don't pay them you don't get them. I'd also made a decision not to offer what would have been the equivalent of the 30€ quickie. Unlike Tony, I wasn't intending to operate this as a personal income provider. I don't need the money. But for fun. Maybe we failed to attract some of the bargain basement shoppers but I'm not running a sexual services charity for the impecunious. You want to fuck a fat grandmother for 20€, go somewhere else. But I think the general economic situation has changed. An effective 20% devaluation of the pound has left a lot less euros in visitors' pockets to spend. A tightening of belts of residents who depend on UK sources of income. And, of course, the general level of business in the puta game has been well down for two or three years now. Every girl I know is complaining about the shortage of paying customers. Nevertheless, it did have its plus sides. Made some new friends amongst the clients who share my interest in playing with attractive and willing girls. Who joined the circle who get invited to the parties I occasionally organise for the purpose. It's possible that we may have another attempt at reviving it. I have an apartment very near the original location, we're currently using for other purposes, would be suitable. It was certainly popular in its day. We'll see.

[PayForIt]

Short trip to CDS. Started on Friday. Scandalos. Quiet at 11 pm for a Friday. My favourite. Melissa - has left the club. Am messaging her to find out her location. No Noella. Night saved by Laura. Blonde Ro. With the best 6 pack I've ever seen in a club. Showed me the Scandalos gym. Never seen it before. She is in it 1. 5 hours every day. Nice girl. Spent too much on drinks and room with her but fun.

Saturday and Sunday. E92. All the usual faces and some new ones. Saturday Alicia (blonde Ro curly hair). Old favourite and reliable.

Sunday. Great duo with Julia (brunette. Ro, pretty and her friend Ina. Also Ro but blonde wearing lovely lingerie). Fabulous 2 hours which were memorable and would repeat with a fun duo.

Monday. Glass Palace Estepona. Few girls but LU has changed and there were good options even amongst the 8 girls I saw. Selected Alicia (another one!) mousey hair, 30, Czech. Pretty. Good body but service was mechanical and would not repeat. 220 per hour now here. Too much for what you get and less options that the other clubs.

Didn't make it to Fontana.

E92 has the edge on LU for me over Scandalos but only based on this visit.

[Pepe1976X]

Been long leecher over here, so figured I'll will give my few cents on stuff I like around Malaga / Marbella area.

Past 3 times Scandalo been awful, loads of Romanians, loads of hardcore pro Latinas who do everything to get you pay more yet providing mechanical performance. So most of the times been just there to chat, flirt, buy lady drinks (surprisingly 50 e girl drink per hour is enough for them to stay with you) and smoke cigar. Don't get me wrong, I still like Scandalo and it's always number one choice for me. Since I live in center of Malaga, Estark is abit too far, not to mention Marbella.

Few times I have ended up bringing the girl home also, some of you might know the feeling when you been drinking a bit too much and you just can't finish, yet want to finish. Depends on girl, they ask very different prices, lowest I paid was 500 e from 3 AM to 10 AM, but she ended staying more. Highest I paid was 1 k from 2 AM to 11 AM. Obviously it's overpaying, but it does happen sometimes and girls are generally happy to come with you. Some of them start at 2000 e price, all of them accept 1000 e, so I am quite sure it could be negotiated even more..

Desty nice report and thanks for the info. Scandalos at weekends is still very good after 23.00 hrs. Good to hear more of the Costa del Sols expanding and ever changing Tantra Massage Scene!

[Pepe1976X]

As a tactic, I find it difficult to find the point of this. What you're going to get from the girl is whatever she thinks is required to induce you to buy her a drink and / or will tempt you to take her upstairs. From you she gets precisely nothing. She is not interested in where you come from, what you do, whether you've visited where she comes from or anything else you might have to say. Whatever it is, she's heard it ten thousand times before and forgotten it ten thousand times before. She has maybe 5 hours of floor time available to her to make money and 15 minutes of chat uses up 5% of it. Unless you've run up credit for her at the bar by buying her a drink, you're well into the valuable time she's willing to expend on you and you're just pissing her off and raising your score in her WoT rankings. It's very easy to succumb to the illusion that you're in a disco and this is a bit of totty you're chatting up. You're not. You're participating in a commercial transaction and the other party has the clock running. If you believe anything else, you've just fallen for the sales patter. It is, after all, their job. If you must talk to the talent, do it on your paid time. It's part of what you're paying for.

I'll be on the CDS next week to take you under my wing again for the advanced lessons on Club tactics. Another selection of advise based on failed practise and selective memory but highly amusing as always from you. Attend a Puti Club because you enjoy what they have to offer. La Liga live, good bar selection, plush surroundings, Latin Music, good bar service and great selection of WGs one of whom you may want to bang because to you she is a 9 with an allure that is captivating. Always be prepared to walk out of Club without having been upstairs but don't curse the WGs because on that occasion there was nothing there for you. Have fun, enjoy this escapism and don't take it too seriously. Of course your experiences are individual to you. You speak no Spanish and cannot communicate and Latinas won't waste there time on you which as you mentioned is a commodity. Remember the WGs at E92 shouting arrogant at you. Yet Denise who I have met many times and is content enough to talk with me freely when she has no other fish to fry! You were begging for an introduction to her and her bunda. You can't worry about whether you are going to upset a WG by not immediately buying her a drink and going upstairs with her. Why worry about what they think. It's a rejection game. In civilian life they don't experience this especially the pretty and young ones. It's a business transaction which you are going to get the best deal from by doing a thorough Q & A and if the conversation is flowing and she is beautiful and sexy where is the problem in buying her a drink. The negotiation has got to be on your grounds who cares if she has decided you have used up your 5 minutes with her. Always get your talking done at the bar which is for free! Upstairs you are paying an expensive hourly rate and that shouldn't be wasted on chat. Use you time upstairs having fun and doing the things with her that you dreamed of before you entered the club. Every car show room you go in must result in a new car being on your drive way. You stated it was 10:1 the Colombian roller skater would meet me outside of Club hours. Well you saw the video. Horses for courses and I know the Puti Club scene does not favour your skill set but don't neg out other Punters who can use Clubs and have a great evening there. I am not advocating this scene as a way to meet a new GF but the reality is 2 human beings are interacting with one and other and money has been exchanged for this but don't think every WG in a Club is a feelingless robot sex worker out to scam as much money as possible out of you! That's just the Romanians LOL!

[Andalus Expat]

Thanks Andalus Expat it sounds like you had a good time!!

I would appreciate it if you have any names of any villas and the contact details. I am new to this area of Spain and the facilities available I have only experienced the delights of a club in Castel de fells and two Argentinian girls who where very accommodating to my requests!

Thanks for your help I will let you know on my return how I get on.

Banger.

It's hard to see why you posted this. You were given the names of a couple of villas and how to find contact details in response to your last enquiry. Is it too difficult to look at a newspaper website? The board rules are that contact numbers in posts will be removed by the moderator. So either do your own work or use the PM system.

[Andalus Expat]

Thanks Andalus Expat it sounds like you had a good time!!

I would appreciate it if you have any names of any villas and the contact details. I am new to this area of Spain and the facilities available I have only experienced the delights of a club in Castel de fells and two Argentinian girls who where very accommodating to my requests!

Thanks for your help I will let you know on my return how I get on.

Banger.

Go back down the posts a few and I gave info on Villafloresfrescas & Butterflies. Both close to Fuengirola. They were always worth visiting. I'm not really up to speed on villas, these days. Just know a fair bit about them. I helped run one for a while. Nowadays I tend to concentrate on apartment girls and independents. I'm looking for quality fucks. If I want to be schmoozed by pretty girls I go to a bar or throw a party. Cheaper. And I avoid clubs like the plague.

[Banger 66]

Thanks Andalus Expat it sounds like you had a good time!!

I would appreciate it if you have any names of any villas and the contact details. I am new to this area of Spain and the facilities available I have only experienced the delights of a club in Castel de fells and two Argentinian girls who where very accommodating to my requests!

Thanks for your help I will let you know on my return how I get on.

Banger.

[Andalus Expat]

... the girls that do that kind of work whether it be in a bar, brothel or villa are basically milking machines! And time is money to them.Banger.

With villas, at least, that's not really true. Villas provide a hospitality service and the girls are part of it. Past your free drink they're happy to sell you more (and possibly other commodities) and provide the company to help you spend your money. Provided they're not swamped with guests, when they're likely to ease out the tightwads, they're happy for you to chat with them all night. The girl's time is very much at the disposal of the house and a good one will try and balance the earnings opportunities they get. You also have the advantage that you can ask the encargada to provide girls give the sort of services your looking for and be reasonably sure that you'll get them delivered. Villas prosper on regular customers and their reputation's valuable to them.

At an apartment, you're going to get a chance to talk with all of the available talent at the presentation, anyway. You want to take your time over one or more, nobody's going to be particularly clockwatching as long as you don't take the [CodeWord140]. The apartment and its occupants aren't going anywhere and you're doing the shopping. Again, it's worth discussing particular services you require when you make the booking. They'll usually tell you which girls provide them and prices. You may see just those at the presentation or they may run the whole lot past you anyway. Just remember the names and confirm with them that they provide what you want. Like villas, the good ones have regular clients and reputations they want to preserve. They attract the better girls at their price point and select for them. The bad ones in apartments and girls don't last very long. Unfortunately, it's a matter of experience. Why it's valuable sharing your's here.

For me, yesterday, was a bit of an epic. Second visit from a xica working at the new apartment in Los Boliches. In four days. Brasilena in her 30's and so thoroughly filthy and energetic I just had to have another spin. And we realized we'd met before. Encargada of one of the Marbella villas had her in tow when she came round my place at 8 AM one morning, for some reason I can't recall. She was pissed out of her mind and we put her to bed for a couple hours to sleep it off. I really am going to have to go round and check what else they've got there. The pics they've whatsapped me look inviting. Three hours cost me 350, with every extra you could possibly think of. Which was possibly why, when she'd left at 8 PM, I found myself calling Noelia (my regular favourite) at 9 and got her round for the rest of the night to play games. The video we shot of her handcuffed and chained to the four corners of the bed we'll watching a lot.

[MagicSheep74]

Thanks for your input Desty, its very much appreciated. Have you anymore information regarding Candy from pasion. I can't seem to find a girl on the site that fits your description.

In my 8 years living on the Coast, I've only ever taken a girl home for the evening on 2 occasions.

Estark 92 - 9 pm unti 11 am the next day and it costs me 400 euro's.

Milady Palace - 9 pm until 4 am. Cost 500 euro's. I was reasonably happy with the price, but I had already known the girls for several months and I believe they were just happy to have a night away from the clubs.

I'll give that massage place in Fuengirola a try on the way home later this month.

Cheers.

[Banger 66]

As a tactic, I find it difficult to find the point of this. What you're going to get from the girl is whatever she thinks is required to induce you to buy her a drink and / or will tempt you to take her upstairs. From you she gets precisely nothing. She is not interested in where you come from, what you do, whether you've visited where she comes from or anything else you might have to say. Whatever it is, she's heard it ten thousand times before and forgotten it ten thousand times before. She has maybe 5 hours of floor time available to her to make money and 15 minutes of chat uses up 5% of it. Unless you've run up credit for her at the bar by buying her a drink, you're well into the valuable time she's willing to expend on you and you're just pissing her off and raising your score in her WoT rankings. It's very easy to succumb to the illusion that you're in a disco and this is a bit of totty you're chatting up. You're not. You're participating in a commercial transaction and the other party has the clock running. If you believe anything else, you've just fallen for the sales patter. It is, after all, their job. If you must talk to the talent, do it on your paid time. It's part of what you're paying for.

I agree with you Andalus Expat, the girls that do that kind of work whether it be in a bar, brothel or villa are basically milking machines! And time is money to them.

Banger.

[TeddyBears]

Desty.

I don't think it's a bad habit to go for the optic choice, I always do the same. 'Normal girls' I have no trouble to get for free, but stunners I have no problem paying for! LOL.

Scandalo used to be 170 for one hour, now I am told it's 200 so don't pay more than that. Cost of Ladies drink is really what you wants it to be, she gets 50% of the bill on all drinks or bottles over 20 euros. If you wants to be generous be that by all means, it's your money and if you have fun go for it. But make sure you control your wallet and not them, if not they will try to mind fuck you.

As both you and Andalus Expat point out, it's not about love! It's their job and they wants to make as much money as possible of course. If anyone reading this is looking for a girlfriend then you are looking at the wrong place obviously. I admit that I enjoy these all night sessions sometimes rather than a quick session upstairs at a club or in a random apartment. For me the service level has almost always sky rocket when you take them out of the club, these girls are not always so nicely treated by everyone, so when you treat them as a gentleman and make them feel special, you will have a good chance of being well rewarded.

I was looking at the website of the tantric place it seems that Daniella isn't working anymore, if she hasn't changed name to Cynthia by any chance?! Can you tell me if you have had full service with Estefany and what you paid for it if so?

Teddybears.

[Andalus Expat]

As I prefer to drink and chat with WGs, there are exceptions, and try to do a thorough Q&A before going upstairs at a PutiClub !

As a tactic, I find it difficult to find the point of this. What you're going to get from the girl is whatever she thinks is required to induce you to buy her a drink and / or will tempt you to take her upstairs. From you she gets precisely nothing. She is not interested in where you come from, what you do, whether you've visited where she comes from or anything else you might have to say. Whatever it is, she's heard it ten thousand times before and forgotten it ten thousand times before. She has maybe 5 hours of floor time available to her to make money and 15 minutes of chat uses up 5% of it. Unless you've run up credit for her at the bar by buying her a drink, you're well into the valuable time she's willing to expend on you and you're just pissing her off and raising your score in her WoT rankings. It's very easy to succumb to the illusion that you're in a disco and this is a bit of totty you're chatting up. You're not. You're participating in a commercial transaction and the other party has the clock running. If you believe anything else, you've just fallen for the sales patter. It is, after all, their job. If you must talk to the talent, do it on your paid time. It's part of what you're paying for.

[Pepe1976X]

During these years I have had numerous girls from Scandalo doing dinner dates with all night companion with wake up sex for 500 euros. Some of them for way less but then I 'know' them on a more personal level.

Business is tough for most of the girls at the clubs so I would advise you and others to negotiate hard when going for these outcalls. For an example if the club is quiet around 2 am from own experience you used to be able to get them to follow you home for 300 euros.

Hi TeddyBs,

My experiences coincides with yours identically for over nights in Malaga especially for Scandalos in the last 18 months.

As I prefer to drink and chat with WGs, there are exceptions, and try to do a thorough Q&A before going upstairs at a PutiClub I have rejected many WGs that don't have the "special factor " Anyway the point is by speaking to the WGs as they do their laps of honour at the PutiClub Bars once they discover I am staying in a decent Malaga Hotel I have been inundated with offers to come to my room from Scandalo WGs. So much so that if I have given them a mobile number they have been phoning me constantly to try to hook up with me if I slip out of the Club with out them E500 has always been their opening offer with few restrictions of services that they offer. Needless to say an opening offer is not the final offer so I would definitely see sub-E300.00 being possible especially amongst the WGs that are not boarding at the Clubs. The non-boarders are always looking at their Cartiers from 02.30 hrs wondering shall I book my taxi or wait around for another 30 minutes to see if Richard Gere arrives! Even amongst the boarders I have known WGs that prefer a night in a nice hotel with breakfast and a quiet room that has no other WG sleeping in it and having a regular client give her sub E200 for not very much hard work. So E500.00 should IMO never be paid!

[Desty]

Thanks for your report Desty.

I just felt the need to comment on the Scandalo part of your report. Since I have been a frequent visitor since 2010 at Scandalo, not the last 16 months though, in these years I have established some kind of relation with some of the girls. During these years I have had numerous girls from Scandalo doing dinner dates with all night companion with wake up sex for 500 euros. Some of them for way less but then I 'know' them on a more personal level.

Business is tough for most of the girls at the clubs so I would advise you and others to negotiate hard when going for these outcalls. For an example if the club is quiet around 2 am from own experience you used to be able to get them to follow you home for 300 euros. This was of course before their new price structure at Scandalo but would like to think it's still the same.

You mention Tantricmassagesfuengirola and Estefany, I have had my eye on her and 'Daniella' from their website for a few years. How much have you paid for one hour with full service??

About Scandalo, I have a bad habit of choosing 8+ lookers. Thin, tall, dark haired with natural tits, the ones generally most guys are after. And to top that off, my screening, I always make sure she does no coke and she is not wasted before 2 am. When girl does coke and you go home with her, she kind of doesn't pass out. Had few girls before like that for overnight and literally was begging them to go to sleep at 6 in morning. Since I don't do any drugs what so ever, I do need my sleep in early hours after all night partying. My point of the story, the sober, non drugged stunners, who have been in business for 5+ years, they know what they are doing in terms of NOT getting any emotional connection. Therefore, no GFE, fairly mechanical and they do not lower their prices. 8+ girls, they make their money even when it's quiet night. I even have example from Scandalo, girl was called Larissa, that was her real name, no idea her Scadalo name. She is from Sao Paolo, about 170 cm tall, thin, fairly light skinned, 27 years old, looks a little like Romanian, but is not, been working in Scandalo for 4 years. Generally wears pink shorts with white tank top. I spent 2 days with her, she does talk about her life, brothers, mother, also bought 250 k apartment in Sao Paolo. But even on second day, she had fixed 1 k per 24 hour price, which was agreed when we met.

I do get what you mean, when you know the girl from the past and you both enjoyed the stay, you generally do get better pricing, as spending a dinner date and night with you is like a vacation for her. Not being fucked by 6 different guys while making money. Gold. Thanks for the advice. I am bad with haggling, what I do usually is research from specific places, I make sure what people are paying and when it comes the time to negotiate the price, I know the pricing for example in Scandalo 220-250 per hour, so if she asks 300, I will tell here I been here before, so max I will do is 250, they usually agree, if no, I will add a lady drink there. There is no information in here bringing girls home directly from Scandalo, that was the reason I shared my experience.

About Dany, she use to work in Bendalmadena, what ever the massage place was near marina. She has loads of experience and she speaks perfect English. Originally from Brazil, but been living in Germany with boyfriend (single now) and now long time in Costa Del Sol, proper busty fitness girl, with big silicons. I have been with her twice, good massage, very playful, very talky, maintains your erection for full hour by softly touching you, nice tight body, no limits of touching her, got 2 endings first time without asking (rare for me, as I do not finish fast), never had FS with her, can't comment about that. She did stood me up once, agreed appointment at 14.00 for same day for 17.00 and she stopped answering whatsapp when I got there. But as I said before, they generally charge 50 e more for FS, worth of offering that.

-Desty.

[TeddyBears]

Thanks for your report Desty.

I just felt the need to comment on the Scandalo part of your report. Since I have been a frequent visitor since 2010 at Scandalo, not the last 16 months though, in these years I have established some kind of relation with some of the girls. During these years I have had numerous girls from Scandalo doing dinner dates with all night companion with wake up sex for 500 euros. Some of them for way less but then I 'know' them on a more personal level.

Business is tough for most of the girls at the clubs so I would advise you and others to negotiate hard when going for these outcalls. For an example if the club is quiet around 2 am from own experience you used to be able to get them to follow you home for 300 euros. This was of course before their new price structure at Scandalo but would like to think it's still the same.

You mention Tantricmassagesfuengirola and Estefany, I have had my eye on her and 'Daniella' from their website for a few years. How much have you paid for one hour with full service??