SC Sauna Club Living Room - Kaarst

[Rithro]

Long-time lurker, first-time poster. Time to give back.

I can get to Europe once a year from "Sex-Prison USA. " I love visiting. FKK clubs are a big reason, but I also love the historical sites, food, etc. I flew in to Dusseldorf and spent my first night at Sauna Club Living Room. Overall, very good experience.

For newbies and travelers: at the airport train station it took me awhile to figure out how to get the ticket I needed. They were Deutsche Bahn kiosks, but you could choose VRR (Verkehrsverbund Rhein-Ruhr) tickets as a subsection. I bought a VRR "einzelfahrt" ticket, Preisstufe be for six euros. I double-checked with the man in the Reisecentrum first to make sure I had the right class of ticket.

First curve ball of the trip: the S-Bahn S28 line south of the Duesseldorf Hbf was out of service for a work blitz. I wasn't looking forward to riding a bus to where I needed to go. I consulted the map closely and found that you-bahn line 75 also went to Neuss. I figured the ticket was still good for this, and I did not encounter any additional turnstile machines on my way down to the platform. The train only stayed below ground for a couple of stops. After that it felt like a light rail (tram) line.

At Neuss I could pick up the S28 line again and got to the IKEA Kaarst station. I had reserved a room at the Mercure Hotel not far away. I crossed the road just north of the train tracks. Getting to Mercure from the IKEA Kaarst train platform involves walking north and turning right (east) at the Shell station (Tankstelle). Walk down this road until you get to the Ford automobile dealership. The street curves 90 degrees to the left (north). Walk one block north and turn right. Look for the hotel on your left. It is set back from the road.

I got checked in and cleaned up. Surprisingly, I wasn't in need of a nap. I felt ready to go, so off I stepped into the NRW evening. I wanted more money and asked the receptionist where there was a "cash point" / geldautomat. She said the hotel did not have one, but the Shell station did.

I retraced my steps, pausing to smell the lilacs and honeysuckle that were blooming. The weather was just about perfect, and lucky me, it would remain so throughout the trip. When I got to the Shell station I didn't see a cash machine anywhere. I should have asked, but assumed Living Room would have one.

To get to Living Room from IKEA Kaarst, one finds a path that leads south from the station parking lot past an electrical substation. You'll see the fence and the warning signs with the lightning bolt saying "Lebensgefahr."

When you get to the street, turn left. This is Bruchweg. You're getting close when you see a restaurant on your left. Living Room will be on the right. You can see the rooftop sign from Bruchweg quite easily. Turn right off of Bruchweg onto August-Thyssen-Straße. LivingRoom is close to the corner but not quite. I was going to take a picture of it from the outside, but to my surprise there were a couple of security guys out on the sidewalk, so I abstained.

LivingRoom. The basics.

Press the buzzer to have them unlock the steel gate for you. I mentioned it was my first time, and the receptionist called one of the ladies to give me a brief tour. She led me downstairs and asked which locker I had been assigned and showed me the proper section of the locker room. She pointed out the hot tub, sauna, and shower areas, and closed her brief talk by mentioning meal times.

I had trouble getting the lock to work at first. After I'd stripped and showered, I couldn't get the door to lock shut. The locker doors have a small plunger that you press in to lock the door. What I didn't understand was that you had to hold your wristband directly against the depressed plunger for 1-3 seconds until you heard a click. Then the door was locked. To unlock it, hold your wristband "dial" against the plunger, and it will pop up.

The shower bay has about six spray heads, perhaps five of which spat cold water--an unpleasant discovery. Shower gel is provided in squeeze dispensers mounted on the wall next to each water control knob.

I wish there were more sinks. I wanted to brush my teeth and use mouthwash, but only found one WC. The room had two toilet stalls and one sink. Sometimes one had to wait or take turns. I stepped out of the room, working away with a toothbrush while another monger washed his hands. Two ladies saw me from down the hall by the towel racks. One called out, "You OK?"

Rooms are on the main floor and will have a sign hung on them that either says "occupied" or "free" in German.

When you're ready to shop for a good time, one heads upstairs. There are three main areas: the bar, the "living room" (which seems to be the smoking area), and the food tent.

You enter the bar area first. There will be a few ladies seated back from the bar, keeping watch over the mongers coming in, giving them a wink and a nod. Other ladies are at the bar, usually with customers. More recline in the "living room" on couches, smoking. The smoke can be dense in there, and for me it's a big turn-off. A pretty face approaching yours with smoky breath is bad enough. Sitting down and trying to have a conversation while she's puffing and your eyes are stinging and watering is even less appealing.

To get to the food tent, pass through the couch / smoking area and step down into the garden. When I was there, the buffet had kraut, potatoes, bread, and meats. Decent quality. Good selection of bottled beer (no extra charge) in the refrigerator immediately to your left as you walk in.

Management definitely erred on the side of too much warmth in the tent. With three or four patio heaters going, it was hot in there.

Now that I was ready for action, I headed upstairs and looked over the talent. I made eye contact and greeted the ladies who sat on stools near the entrance and others who were seated around the bar. There was a cutie in the couch area who, unfortunately, wouldn't make eye contact with me. Young blonde, short hair. Well, if I turn her off that much, I wouldn't want to be in bed with her.

Not seeing anyone that really grabbed my interest, I walked rather awkwardly back to one end of the bar and got a drink, while pretending to be busy reading the drink menu. I assumed phones were not allowed up in that area. I must have looked like fresh meat to Sibel (Romania. Straight black hair, maybe 60-65 kilo) - she came over and introduced herself, immediately giving me the kind of smiling, touchy-feely treatment I like. She was maybe a 6 or 7, but seemed nice and had nice boobs. I'm definitely a boob man, and a cracking pair will turn most of my brain to goo. She suggested a room, and I agreed.

I ended up going down on her for a good 30-35 minutes before she came. It was fun—she got very wet and open. I had a good time feeling all the soft tissues of her sex, watching her belly quiver, feeling her hands on my head. She also seemed to like firm pressure. She gave a damned fine wet, sloppy blow job. I almost came but held off, wanting to come vaginally. She suited me up and mounted up, and I exploded in 2-3 minutes. Very nice. Not "top," as in what could make it better would be a little more bonding through verbal intercourse, but this is a "fickenfabrik" after all. Ended up going for an hour since I was committed to getting her off. She did warn me that we'the gone over 30 min. Would I repeat? Not if the next lady I met was in the house.

After my session with Sibel (see-Bell), I rested for awhile, taking my time to shower. Then I decided to eat something. When I walked into the overheated tent I found a small buffet and a selection of basics. Kraut, potatoes, hamburger "medallions," and salad. Bottled beer was complimentary. I sat at a table with no other occupants except a couple of towels saving seats. Presently a slender young blonde woman brought over a tray of food and sat down one seat away. I sipped and nibbled, while surreptitiously eyeballing her. The more I looked, the better she looked. Her skin was golden-brown, her body slender, with the firm abs that make me quiver. I suspected she had breast implants. A nice size for her (not too big, but providing a lovely shape). She didn't speak to me, so I took the initiative, picked up my plate, and asked, "may I join you?

Her name was Rebecca (Rebekah?) - from Romania. OMG, Playboy-model beauty and sexiness. Sweet girl. Spent an hour and a half with her for some of the best sex I've had in a long time. As always, YMMV, but our kisses were hot, wet, passionate. I actually enjoy this kind of intimacy more than blow jobs. I wanted to tip her but my euros ran out precisely. Can someone tell me why LivingRoom does not have a cash machine on the premises? Would room with Rebecca again in a heartbeat. And I would definitely bring more euros.

In summary, LivingRoom pros and cons:

- Girls were generally attractive. I think I could room with maybe half the ladies there.

- Many of the girls sit and smoke in the "living room" adjacent to the bar. " Not a place where I would want to join them. Also wonder how bad their breath would be.

- Would like more sinks.

- To open the locker, hold your wristband to the button. To lock the locker, press the plunger on the knob back in with your wristband and hold it fully depressed for 1-3 seconds until you hear a click. I had a hard time figuring this out at first.

- Hot tub is great.

- Good selection of complimentary bottled beer.

- Some of the showers spit out cold water despite the temperature knob being turned all the way to hot.

- No separate bank of small lockers for valuables and money. Girls have to come directly to the locker room to collect payment.

- Fresh towels readily available.

- Slippers are not given to you at the desk as they are at Sharks. You pick your size from a rack down in the locker room.

- Got good service from two ladies. No upselling in the room.

- One frequently hears the clacking sound of heels on the wooden stairs. It's kind of a turn-on when you think of it.

- House madam asked me if everything was ok when I checked out.

- Easy to get to from IKEA Kaarst station (S-bahn 28).

- None of the girls were impressed that I knew two words of Romanian. .

- Big security guy (s) are out on the street in front of the house. Wonder why.

- Prices remain 50 euro per 30 min.

[TheRugdr]

Brunch was quite average, fortunately got my so sexy, welcoming and lovely, so long time regular to save my day, at GT. Of course, could have repeated with Anastasia, or Ana, but I made the good choice to go to Kate, I prefer to spend for high level, when I discovered 3 high level among so many low level at Oase which is really improving for me, with also Katrin. Bu with new beautiful nose.

Sounds like I didn't miss much by not visiting LR on the Easter brunch days in terms of girls and food. My last day there was a week ago on Saturday, and I wasn't impressed with the line up of new girls. Years ago, LR seemed to have a very strict hiring process and not allow below average girls to work there. Now, it feels like they allow many average (or less than average) girls to work there. And I agree with you that you can never go wrong with Kate at GT. She's definitely my favorite girl there!

[Chongmal]

My choice mistake for this Easter Sunday, when I refused so many times a high level in bed, woman type who returned to me, at Oase on Saturday, because of her prostitute behavior when I enjoyed the charming woman type on Friday, but Sunday would have been higher level with her, having orgasmus with bubbles from jacuzzi on her clit, or in bed of course, or even relaxing at magic World, compare to horrors I saw when I arrived at noon. On this beginning of the year, a few new pretty girls: Blond Bea, Feria, Bella, met, new Ana is also quite pretty, Maia and Anastasia are cute face with real skill for BJ for Anastasia, Amira is sexy woman type, I would not be honest if I said my ex Eve is not pretty when I drove so many kilometers for her, not sure another guy will drive so many for her, problem was only about her public behavior, also my good surprise of course, also Reina even Romanian foods seem too good, Georgia, very slim Maria, Iwa. Isabella has beautiful eyes and one of the most elegant for behavior. But new girls seen on this Sunday mid day, when it s very difficult for me to find beauties with charm, but I don t remember I already saw 3 so low level looks in a big club, meaning club with more than 30/40 girls, as I said to blond with short hair on desk on day and Roxy after, same like I can t understand how GT could accept horror Donatella when they refuse Romanian beauties I would love in bed..

You confused me. Were you at Oase or LR on Easter Sunday or both. I honestly read the report three times and still don't get it.

[Sirioja]

Oh, I wasn't able to visit LR on Easter Sunday or Easter Monday. I saw the flyers advertising their Easter Brunch, but I was concerned that many girls would already be leaving for Romania. Yes, I totally agree with you regarding Anastasia being great for BJ. And I also agree with you that most of the newer girls appear to be ugly and / or fat!

My choice mistake for this Easter Sunday, when I refused so many times a high level in bed, woman type who returned to me, at Oase on Saturday, because of her prostitute behavior when I enjoyed the charming woman type on Friday, but Sunday would have been higher level with her, having orgasmus with bubbles from jacuzzi on her clit, or in bed of course, or even relaxing at magic World, compare to horrors I saw when I arrived at noon. On this beginning of the year, a few new pretty girls: Blond Bea, Feria, Bella, met, new Ana is also quite pretty, Maia and Anastasia are cute face with real skill for BJ for Anastasia, Amira is sexy woman type, I would not be honest if I said my ex Eve is not pretty when I drove so many kilometers for her, not sure another guy will drive so many for her, problem was only about her public behavior, also my good surprise of course, also Reina even Romanian foods seem too good, Georgia, very slim Maria, Iwa. Isabella has beautiful eyes and one of the most elegant for behavior. But new girls seen on this Sunday mid day, when it s very difficult for me to find beauties with charm, but I don t remember I already saw 3 so low level looks in a big club, meaning club with more than 30/40 girls, as I said to blond with short hair on desk on day and Roxy after, same like I can t understand how GT could accept horror Donatella when they refuse Romanian beauties I would love in bed. Brunch was quite average, fortunately got my so sexy, welcoming and lovely, so long time regular to save my day, at GT. Of course, could have repeated with Anastasia, or Ana, but I made the good choice to go to Kate, I prefer to spend for high level, when I discovered 3 high level among so many low level at Oase which is really improving for me, with also Katrin. Bu with new beautiful nose.

[TheRugdr]

Meri was free on Easter Sunday at 2 pm when she took breakfast. Joana is at least for 2 years at LR. Cute face Anastasia is great for BJ and lovely girl. From my knowledge about LR, I never tried Spanish Isa because not really pretty for me even she improved since rasta hair, but making wet the bed and more don't make her the busiest at LR as far I know.

Maybe why they accepted really ugly and fat new girls, even they are friendly, but I don't want they touch me, as I said to desk: too ugly, to have girls for Easter.

Oh, I wasn't able to visit LR on Easter Sunday or Easter Monday. I saw the flyers advertising their Easter Brunch, but I was concerned that many girls would already be leaving for Romania. Yes, I totally agree with you regarding Anastasia being great for BJ. And I also agree with you that most of the newer girls appear to be ugly and / or fat!

[Sirioja]

Here's a quick summary of my recent room time with the ladies of LR for those who are interested. Veterans might as well skip reading this. I know there are some who don't like posting or reading about individual experiences with working girls, but I personally have always appreciated and found them beneficial, especially when visiting a club I haven't been to yet.

Girls I've sessioned with in the past:

- Amira. Has always provided me with dependable, consistent service over the years. My recent time with her she actually seemed to improve slightly. Seemed a bit more passionate than last time. Will repeat of course.

- Nelly. Yes, she's a bit cookoo, and it can be difficult to snatch her up with her bouncing around from guy to guy and bursting into song, but she's definitely one of the best at LR. Always enjoy our playful time in the room together. However, she does needs to use mouthwash or mints more regularly. Could taste her lunch, haha. Will definitely repeat with her.

Meri was free on Easter Sunday at 2 pm when she took breakfast. Joana is at least for 2 years at LR. Cute face Anastasia is great for BJ and lovely girl. From my knowledge about LR, I never tried Spanish Isa because not really pretty for me even she improved since rasta hair, but making wet the bed and more don't make her the busiest at LR as far I know.

Maybe why they accepted really ugly and fat new girls, even they are friendly, but I don't want they touch me, as I said to desk: too ugly, to have girls for Easter.

[BigBuddy69]

At Rudgr: pale Andrea is at Velbert and honestly she doesn't seem very happy about it. MP if you want.

[Sirioja]

Maybe because slow time about Easter even some long time girls, 1 who still seem so angry, but facts are just she is not what she claimed to be when she started more than 2 years ago, not better than Daria and can't compete for loveliness, sweetness and kindness which made so many loved Daria, but nightmare for new girls: fat, ugly and not even fresh, even worst than GT grannies level. As I told to desk whole day, please buy me a new beauty, only one would be enough for me, please please, when no Feria, no Bella, no blond Bea, LR angel is happy at GT even longer to drive for her, if she was able to be more glamourous and sexy look, I would have married her and did aware her about bullshits in this business, when she experienced my behavior with women. Some girls back: Joana, Anastasia, Reina who seemed to enjoy Romanian foods. Some will leave for their Easter on next Sunday. Thanks to Isabella for her nice words, a bit of class for behavior give always more charm to a girl, and beautiful eyes, I wish her to have good time at home. As I m different, I asked to move to GT on evening, also no new wow beauty seen, only my LR angel now there and I m happy for her, I told to mini to treat her in good way for a sweet girl, and I returned for one more time with sexy Kate who always lovely welcome me when she is free from her new model business, but at least I never saw her vulgar, she doesn't need and she became GT star because she is more chic than others. Some guys are more attracted by chic than prostitute behavior, not so far from 4 years together, in 2 different clubs, she is important for relation I succeeded to have with her, when failure with some others, but she is higher level for cleverness than average WGs, why she is so busy with some long hours, sometimes 6/7/8 hours NL rooms. Only 1 hour, same than at Aca, for me, but still enjoyable even late and she was fresh for sex I like, a woman in bed. She saved my Sunday when lack of fresh beauties seen.

[TheRugdr]

Here's a quick summary of my recent room time with the ladies of LR for those who are interested. Veterans might as well skip reading this. I know there are some who don't like posting or reading about individual experiences with working girls, but I personally have always appreciated and found them beneficial, especially when visiting a club I haven't been to yet.

Girls I've sessioned with in the past:

- Amira. Has always provided me with dependable, consistent service over the years. My recent time with her she actually seemed to improve slightly. Seemed a bit more passionate than last time. Will repeat of course.

- Nelly. Yes, she's a bit cookoo, and it can be difficult to snatch her up with her bouncing around from guy to guy and bursting into song, but she's definitely one of the best at LR. Always enjoy our playful time in the room together. However, she does needs to use mouthwash or mints more regularly. Could taste her lunch, haha. Will definitely repeat with her.

- Issa. Such a pretty, petite girl who seems to be constantly booked full via appointments with regulars. She talks a lot of bullshit about how amazing you are and how you drive her crazy and is an over the top actress when it comes to feeding your ego. I was reminded of why I shied away from her in the past: her involuntary GS are a boner-killer for me. Each of the three times I've gone to a room with her it happened in different sexual positions and getting drenched in yellow fluid destroyed my momentum. This most recent time, it was such a mess she needed to stop and get extra towels and I went totally limp. I know some guys are into pissing action (and Issa is perfect for you guys, because there is no extra charge), but it's not for me. She told me she can't control it, and it definitely hasn't hurt her business (in fact, maybe it's part of the reason she's so popular), because she's the busiest girl at LR! Will not repeat.

Girls I sessioned with the first time:

- Ada. Nica tan, and much taller than girls I go for (both pro and non-pro). In fact, she's the tallest girl I've ever had sex with. Very nice, long tone legs though. We didn't click. I know others have enjoyed her, but she seemed a bit high on herself and made a couple condescending remarks that thinner-skinned men would have been insulted by. Oh, and her so called DFK was just quickly licking my face. Won't repeat with her.

- Anastasia. Little bit thicker than I normally go for, but I was drawn in by her very cute face which reminded me of UFC commentator and interviewer Megan Olivi. Pale and not very outgoing. I did enjoy our time in the room though. She caught me at a time when I just wanted to relax and enjoy her cute face, so I opted for BJ to completion and she did a great job and also made sure to continue for at least 30 seconds after I finished to make sure she got every remaining drop out. Bonus points for that! Will probably repeat.

- Joanna. She told me she's been working at LR for 2 years, and I was shocked that I hadn't seen her and been to a room with her before. Guess are schedules didn't line up. She was definitely my favorite of the girls I tried for the first time. Great GFE and DFK. Awesome sex session and especially enjoyed the cowgirl position. Will definitely repeat.

Side notes:

- Mary. I wanted to go to the room with her (I had been with her a couple times in the past) but the two days I saw her, she was cuddling some long haired guy outside for countless hours. What a waste of a business day unless he was paying her for 6 hours of couch time! Haha.

- Reina. She is an example of why I appreciate reading reports from others. She does have a pretty face, but I know I don't want to go to a room with her. I need DFK, and thanks to others who have reported this is off the table and have also reported about her service level. Additionally, she seems to have gained weight in the past 6 months, especially in the thighs.

- Andrea. I've always enjoyed my time with small, pale Andrea with her big smile, but I haven't seen her yet at LR. I assume she's on a holiday. Have been meaning to ask Roxy or Manuela if they know when she will return.

- Celine. Tiny Celine, who is my perfect spinner body type is no longer at LR (or GT) as all the vets know. I saw her at Sharks a few weeks ago (new name: April) and loved our time together.

- Orthodox Easter. This place will be a ghost town next weekend. Of all the ladies I've mentioned, only Anastasia and Joanna will be here for Romanian Orthodox Easter on the 28th. With each of them, we talked about how they are going to make a killing because there will be so few girls here, and they should rake in the business!

[Gino02]

Thanks for your answer, Gino02: it'd be very useful for the future.

But let me add some details:

- I understand girls don't want to be considered just "a piece of meat", and I try to do my part in this scenario, attempting to build a funny and relaxed conversation. But I had the strong perception that most girls are not interested in a certain amount of social time, with the exception of girls all the time booked by "customer-boyfriend". So, for an occasional customer like me they are more "business oriented", because the more rooms they do the more they earn, of course; this can be confirmed because after just few questions they first ask to go to the room. In that situation I use the interview to know what girl do and what don't. Maybe I could be more clear in my request, with more statements and less questions, but I think it's important to know exactly what is going to happen in the room, both for the client and the girl, above all considering that services offered change according to the girl.

That said, my question is; what exactly do you do when a girl approaches you or you approach a girl? Are you a regular customer or an occasional one? Maybe for an experienced guy of this club like you the situation is different.

- About Reina, when she stopped the performance she was just making a BBJ, but there was no cumming: it was for this reason I was surprised; I could have asked her a time compensation, as you suggested, but I preferred to say nothing about.

- Maybe it was just a bad experience, but you should also read my recent experience at Golden Time, which I'll post in the proper thread ASAP.

I end up going to the Frankfurt clubs more often than NRW clubs, maybe once or twice per 3-6 months in LR, so can't call myself an LR regular. It usually takes me about 30 seconds to maximum a minute to feel if a WG new to me would be a good session or not, about the same time it takes me to feel in a normal bar or nightclub if a girl is into me or not. I think key is to listen to her as opposed to asking too many intimate questions, only leading questions or titbits to help her talk. Kinda like the advices from the movie Hitch.

[Sirioja]

Skymaster, Sirioja, and everyone else. Thanks for the great advice. I know how hit-and-miss everything can be, even in FKK-land. Though it is the best odds. Reading these forums has always provided the best intel. You guys rock!

FKK land is a bit like casino, but even You pay, I think You will win pleasure more often in FKK than money in casino. But like in my mountains about weather, You have to accept to lose sometimes and I m a real frustration torturing myself specialist, so frustrating for me when my lovely girls become so prostitute, real killing desire for me. After my amazing last free ride session, caught by flog behind Col Pers on top of Val the Isere, couldn't see my ski, but mountains know how much I love them, so sun returned to lighten because no more snow bridge to cross the river, no other exit than changing way, like sometimes in FKK. On this Friday I discovered a so woman with charm, 30 yo Croatian and fireworks in bed. I decided to return yesterday but I saw her so prostitute, she came to ask if I was upset about her, I answered I don t go with unrespectful prostitutes, she ran away returning to her friend, she came back later to ask why I thought this, when it was great on Friday, I explained her what she showed me, she said: but now I m free only for You if You want. Even a rare high level, but became dirty for me. She came again later saying I exaggerate too much, I answered the Friday woman and the Saturday prostitute could go with others. This is typical whole FKK land for me.

[JunkJock]

Skymaster, Sirioja, and everyone else. Thanks for the great advice. I know how hit-and-miss everything can be, even in FKK-land. Though it is the best odds. Reading these forums has always provided the best intel. You guys rock!

[FranzMaister]

Every experience in FKK is a bit different for obvious reasons. That said, I think you got poor services because you asked way too many detail questions. True that girls are there for making money in exchange for sex, and they are naked or almost naked for this business. But still most of them like to think that they are not a piece of meat that you buy in a grocery store after asking the butcher about the type and cut of the meat. I usually don't even ask any question with a girl new to me, and let her ask questions. The moment she breaks down various services and extras, I don't even go to a room with her, as that is a sign for a disaster in the room. If you like her and she likes you without listing the extras, you both will have fun, and she will make money (usually a lot of money). This works worldwide..

Thanks for your answer, Gino02: it'd be very useful for the future.

But let me add some details:

- I understand girls don't want to be considered just "a piece of meat", and I try to do my part in this scenario, attempting to build a funny and relaxed conversation. But I had the strong perception that most girls are not interested in a certain amount of social time, with the exception of girls all the time booked by "customer-boyfriend". So, for an occasional customer like me they are more "business oriented", because the more rooms they do the more they earn, of course; this can be confirmed because after just few questions they first ask to go to the room. In that situation I use the interview to know what girl do and what don't. Maybe I could be more clear in my request, with more statements and less questions, but I think it's important to know exactly what is going to happen in the room, both for the client and the girl, above all considering that services offered change according to the girl.

That said, my question is; what exactly do you do when a girl approaches you or you approach a girl? Are you a regular customer or an occasional one? Maybe for an experienced guy of this club like you the situation is different.

- About Reina, when she stopped the performance she was just making a BBJ, but there was no cumming: it was for this reason I was surprised; I could have asked her a time compensation, as you suggested, but I preferred to say nothing about.

- Maybe it was just a bad experience, but you should also read my recent experience at Golden Time, which I'll post in the proper thread ASAP.

[Gino02]

Short report of my first visit at LR.

I went in the afternoon of a Sunday. The scene was rather quiet. After some interviews I understood girls are not generally interested in spending social time with you, even short, except if you are a regular customer. Moreover, I had strange answers to my questions. For example: "Do you do FK? "it depends", or "let's see in the room", or "not all the time", "only with my boyfriend", ecc. Other example: "I offer anal", "Fantastic, how much is it?" - "It depends, if you have a certain penis size you pay 50, if it's bigger I can refuse or ask you more extra".

I had two sessions:

1- Reina: she looked very cute, but I didn't like her attitude in the room. After a decent BBJ, which led me to erection, she said: "I had to go in the bathroom upstairs to flush my mouth"; "so are you leaving me during an erection? "Don't worry, I'll come early". She took more than 5 minutes to do this and for a normal an half hour session it was a waste of time. I was shocked, I didn't know what to do. Then she came and we finished the session. Very strange.

2- Penelope: I was tired, but I decided to do an other session. I found this girl, which seemed very kind. In the room I clarified we would have done an half hour session and she agreed. At the end of an average sex, she offered to me a massage. Here a problem emerged: she was "convinced" for 1 hour session (IMO she tried to deceive me). I paid for an half hour session: she seemed annoyed, but no objections.

Even if the club closes at 4, at 1.30 the party could be said to be over.

From all I wrote I can conclude FKK model can be great yet if you are a regular customer, who knows girls, their services, their behavior: in fact some rooms were taken for long time. The occasional customer risks being disadvantaged from a girls' standard and not always friendly attitude.

Just my 2 cents.

Every experience in FKK is a bit different for obvious reasons. That said, I think you got poor services because you asked way too many detail questions. True that girls are there for making money in exchange for sex, and they are naked or almost naked for this business. But still most of them like to think that they are not a piece of meat that you buy in a grocery store after asking the butcher about the type and cut of the meat. I usually don't even ask any question with a girl new to me, and let her ask questions. The moment she breaks down various services and extras, I don't even go to a room with her, as that is a sign for a disaster in the room. If you like her and she likes you without listing the extras, you both will have fun, and she will make money (usually a lot of money). This works worldwide.

In your case, Reina should have at least offered to compensate the time that she was out at the bathroom. You could have asked her for that too.

Only few times that girls went to bathroom in the middle of a session with me in LR and other FKKs are when she had my cum in her pussy. When they like you, most girls enjoy AO (BBFS) with CIP more than using condoms (funny that it is true both for WGs as well as regular non-WGs), and likes to play with the cum for a while, some even wants to go for a second round immediately. Only few runs to the bathroom to clean up immediately.

Key is to make the experience fun for both parties, girls and guys. Of course she makes some good money along the way.

[Sirioja]

I think you were just unlucky for your choices, like I was for my last choice on my last visit at LR, my worst at LR. There are nice girls at LR and even at Oase which is a club to fuck tourists, even not German, I manage since few weeks to make some beauties being nice and fire in bed. Ask about what you like, to the girl before going to room.

I meant my worst room at LR, I preferred to stop, even a woman type look and she wanted to try to please me, but we were not on same quality level. A new girl, but not on what was LR level.