Medellin Reports

[HotelAl]

Haha, I was going to post just the opposite!

I'm in Brazil for a couple weeks every month.

So Paulo and Rio.

They both rock!

To me they're on a different level, both higher and lower actually, LOL.

The only advantage I see to Colombia for mongering is closer proximity to USA / Canada, etc for travel purposes.

Love them both.

Brazil better IMO.

Don't know what the previous poster experienced in Rio, but damn, not to enjoy Rio.

Whaaaaat?? LOL.

I used to go to Rio regularly, but have not been there is years. I do Costa Rica and MTY. But have been thinking about Columbia. Which is the best city to see on my first trip?? I am fluent in Spanish so that's no issue.

[The Tall Man]

I've noticed a substantial increase in the number of Vzs over the past few months in El Centro which isn't surprising. It almost seems as there are more of them than the Colombians working the area around the Museum, the Church, and the back streets during the daytime.

My Colombian regulars have told tell me that a lot of the Vzs are going for as low as 15 K and it has caused them a lot of lost business because of the price undercutting. A lot of them congregate in groups in the park adjacent to the Museum and in the closed off area between the Museum and Church in front of Hotel Premier Plaza.

True as again last night I was in centro, again hehehehe, with my best Colombian amigo who settled in on a venie, him his venie and my paisa at about 11 PM last night then we went to that motel nearby for 3 hours.

Lets dispel the myth about 15 mil sex with any venie, I wish it was true but this is becoming an urban myth. Believe me as 2 weeks ago I was in Cucuta and searched far and wide for the mythical 10 mil sex with a venie, just not true and truth be told glad it is not true.

The Tall Man.

[Orgasmico]

Haha, I was going to post just the opposite!

I'm in Brazil for a couple weeks every month.

So Paulo and Rio.

They both rock!

To me they're on a different level, both higher and lower actually, LOL.

Brazil better IMO.

I live in Medellin and spend about 95% of the year in Colombia so I'm interested in checking out Rio for a change of scenery. The flights are only about $400 USD. I've always heard what you expressed about Brazil being on another level.

[Balboa]

Great post, not a big fan of either place. I think Moscow and Mexico are both better destinations, but Colombia is far better then Rio. Rio is just too dangerous, and more expensive then Colombia. I was real disappointed in in Rio, way over rated.

Haha, I was going to post just the opposite!

I'm in Brazil for a couple weeks every month.

São Paulo and Rio.

They both rock!

To me they're on a different level, both higher and lower actually, LOL.

The only advantage I see to Colombia for mongering is closer proximity to USA / Canada, etc for travel purposes.

Love them both.

Brazil better IMO.

Don't know what the previous poster experienced in Rio, but damn, not to enjoy Rio.

Whaaaaat?? LOL.

[JjBee62]

There are two types of personal ID cards for Colombians. For adults, there is a cedula de ciudadania; for minors, there is a tarjeta de identadad. They look similar, but there are major differences if looking at them side by side. I don't recall what the differences are.

In answer to your question, technically, if they have a cedula, they are adults. But cedula translates to identification card, and minors have an identification card.

I'll have to dig into my laptop, for some cedula photos, this weekend. The cedula is white with very dark gray lettering. On the front is the photo and the number along with their full name. On the back is the date and place of birth. A Venezuelan cedula has a red band across the top, if I remember correctly. It has the date of birth on the front.

[JjBee62]

Not to have a Colombian girlfriend from the lower stratas, especially one who you know has ever taken money for sex. I have seen this time and time again. For example, I know a girl that I fucked twice a few years back. She has some gringo boyfriend from California and has contacted me more than once offering to see me. I asked about her boyfriend and she offered two reasons why she could see me: 1) "he give me money to cover some expenses, but not for others. So I need money" and 2) I knew you before him so it's OK.

I have heard the second rationale several times. Like knowing me first entitles her to fuck me despite having a boyfriend. It's good for me, but as a gringo I also can't help but being a little ticked about their attitude toward a guy who is trying to help them and may actually care about them.

If you're in the mongering game and you're expecting any kind of loyalty, it's time to find a new hobby.

If a girl has a gringo boyfriend sending her money, what makes you think she has only 1? Why should she limit herself? Why shouldn't she be making more on the side? Why shouldn't she be looking for someone who will send her more money? It's her job.

If someone offered to hire you for a job that allowed you to keep your current job, would you accept? If someone offered you a job that pays double, would you accept? If someone offered you a chance to make a week's pay working 1 day of your time off, would you accept? Or should you be loyal to your employer?

Too many guys fall in love with whatever girl tells them "mi amor, tan grande. " If you think it's love, take her to the embassy in Bogota and get a fiance visa, take her to the US and marry her.

I don't care if she has a boyfriend, gringo or Colombian. As long as you're paying she doesn't care if you have a girlfriend or wife.

[Surfer50]

I've noticed a substantial increase in the number of Vzs over the past few months in El Centro which isn't surprising. It almost seems as there are more of them than the Colombians working the area around the Museum, the Church, and the back streets during the daytime.

My Colombian regulars have told tell me that a lot of the Vzs are going for as low as 15 K and it has caused them a lot of lost business because of the price undercutting. A lot of them congregate in groups in the park adjacent to the Museum and in the closed off area between the Museum and Church in front of Hotel Premier Plaza.

[Knowledge]

If you shop around and book far enough in advance you can get US East Coast to Brazil fares in the $300 to $400 range off season, but there is nothing you can do about that extra flying time. Brazil is really terrific. I can see visiting more often as work commitments transition to retirement.

I can say for us in S Fla that Medellin is 3. 5 HR flight at $300+- (Spirit) and Rio is $950+ and 10 HR to 27 hrs depending on airlines and layovers.

The $650 diff in ticket prices will buy me a lot of cute Colombians. Plus I speak Spanish, not Portuguese. YMMV.

[DramaFree11]

I can say for us in S Fla that Medellin is 3. 5 HR flight at $300+- (Spirit) and Rio is $950+ and 10 HR to 27 hrs depending on airlines and layovers.

The $650 diff in ticket prices will buy me a lot of cute Colombians. Plus I speak Spanish, not Portuguese. YMMV.

Great post, not a big fan of either place. I think Moscow and Mexico are both better destinations, but Colombia is far better then Rio. Rio is just too dangerous, and more expensive then Colombia. I was real disappointed in in Rio, way over rated.

[The Tall Man]

That is part of the magical draw to Medellin, isn't it? It's such a pretty setting and I always feel great about visiting (outside of the hobby). One reason I really didn't like Panama City was that outside of the hobby, I found the city / setting to be pretty depressing. I've heard good things about Cali (less gringos, more authenticity) - but have also heard that the scene isn't abundant (though some great trip reports say otherwise). I've been to Cartagena and after 2 days I'm always ready to go. I could stay in Medellin for months and love it because of the larger culture.

Have you been to Brazil? I'm wondering how it compares.

I have two tours of duty, hehehehe, in Brazil but this was back in 2000, WTF! I can't hardly believe it has been 19 years, so my comparison between Medellin and Rio or SP is too dated. Had fun though both times, oh and the scene at HELP disco in Rio was incredible (but it is long gone).

The Tall Man.

[Wolf662]

...... But everyone keeps saying I need to experience Brazil (Rio & Sao Paulo). I've never been. Curious as to the Colombian veterans here - what do you think of Brazil in comparison to Medellin?

I can say for us in S Fla that Medellin is 3. 5 HR flight at $300+- (Spirit) and Rio is $950+ and 10 HR to 27 hrs depending on airlines and layovers.

The $650 diff in ticket prices will buy me a lot of cute Colombians. Plus I speak Spanish, not Portuguese. YMMV.

[ThadMax]

Thanks for the report and had a similar experience in Medellin when I visited the city for the first time few months back.

Cali isn't a bad option but tourism lacks a bit and city isn't pretty as Medellin.

Just came back from Cali few weeks ago and will try to put some report together on Cali section.

That is part of the magical draw to Medellin, isn't it? It's such a pretty setting and I always feel great about visiting (outside of the hobby). One reason I really didn't like Panama City was that outside of the hobby, I found the city / setting to be pretty depressing. I've heard good things about Cali (less gringos, more authenticity) - but have also heard that the scene isn't abundant (though some great trip reports say otherwise). I've been to Cartagena and after 2 days I'm always ready to go. I could stay in Medellin for months and love it because of the larger culture.

Have you been to Brazil? I'm wondering how it compares.

[ThadMax]

Funny you should say that since it has been raining everyday for about a month. Good for me because it keeps the noise level down and its good sleeping weather.

A girl from another part of Colombia recently said to me, "esa no es la ciudad de la eterna primavera s no la ciudad de la eterna llovedera"

Haha. I must've gotten lucky as the two days that I was there there was abundant sunshine. Much to my pleasant surprise.

[ThadMax]

I'm nt sure what you expected to find there. They are 2 of the most expensive places in MDE, full of false and overpaid wannabees. Short of time. Seems natural that you would be underwhelmed by those places. I have plenty of time in MDE and would be underwhelmed there every time. If you only have 2-4 days, why not take up specific girl references?

I've actually been quite pleased w / the top-tier spots in recent trips. I found the hottest (9's and even a couple of 10's) to be at the top-tier spots. But of course you get charged a premium and the gringo tax there. I did have some pleasant experiences at some more local casas. But because of my limited time there. I just wanted to visit spots with the highest ratios of 9's and 10's. But I'm finding that to be a real challenge now. Again. I think it's an abundance of riches in the mid-tier (6's, 7's & 8's everywhere) - but at the truly top-end I've found that quality has been harder to find.

Re: specific references. I've found that one's tastes (in all things artistic) is a subjective exercise. As such, I haven't had much luck with other's suggestions. I more look for a suggestion as a venue to visit so that I can decipher through the talent myself. Perhaps I've overlooked some of the more local clubs (like Luna Lunera and Barra Ejectivo) - you're prob right that I need to switch it up.

[PussyRiot]

For me, I'm not one to dig deep into the el Centro or the local scene looking for diamonds in the rough. I simply don't have enough time as my trips are short (2-4 days). I visited Fase Dos and La Isla twice. Both times were a bit underwhelming. It was the week before holy week so that could've factored in. Then I ended up just not all that interested in the scene and enjoyed the city. For me, it's time for a new experience. I may try Cali. But everyone keeps saying I need to experience Brazil (Rio & Sao Paulo). I've never been. Curious as to the Colombian veterans here - what do you think of Brazil in comparison to Medellin?

Thanks for the report and had a similar experience in Medellin when I visited the city for the first time few months back.

Cali isn't a bad option but tourism lacks a bit and city isn't pretty as Medellin.

Just came back from Cali few weeks ago and will try to put some report together on Cali section.