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[Irish Mongrel]

Not really, at least based on what I have seen. The Viet in Changkat are mostly older ladies, and very few. No trace of the dolls you are used to see in BC or TC.

I went to Changkat only two times this week, but I did not notice any significantly higher presence of Viets compared to before. Maybe I went on different days compared to I'm.

What I really notice in Changkat, which is very dffferent from the past, is the total lack of Filipinas. What a pity!

Wasn't quoting the volume of girls against anything really. Been a while since I've been to KL. Agree that the girls are mostly in the older range on Changkat. There were a few younger girls in the back bar in Gypsy. Alot of the African girls walking around on Thursday were "young" in age, and there was a big African dude (pimp) walking around checking on the wherabouts of his girls. The place is defintely different from my last visit mid last year, and is worrisome. First the Filipinas dissappeared from BC, now the numbers are way down, next the For Sale sign will be on the front door. It's not as if there is a squeeze for prime land to build more high rises, the site of the old BC is still empty.

[Irish Mongrel]

Not good. KL was always my playground of Viets without the hassle of Vietnam. Going in 7 wks. Presumed they (the girls) just moved from BC to Changkat. Dam I hate change!
BTW What silly prices were they asking?
NI.

Was quoted 1000 MYR and that was late at night. Burst out laughing and didn't even bother countering, finished up and went home. Was lurking more than lookign anyway. If she had quoted somethign close to normal. In the 5-600 range I might have countered and taken her home. Sayign that I had a lot of drink in me and even chemical enhancement would have been taxed to get me going.

[CinaHandsome69]

Not good. KL was always my playground of Viets without the hassle of Vietnam. Going in 7 wks. Presumed they (the girls) just moved from BC to Changkat. Dam I hate change!
BTW What silly prices were they asking?
NI.

For Viets still plenty and some lookers at ACE and also at Sap Chuen. Not as pricey and not all are hot chicks, but some gems. RM80 for quickie at their nearby room. Some negotiable for overnight. To be clear this is not the usual nice bar with pickup. Its a traditional (messy some says) food court, with a lot of PRC and Viet FLs plying their trade. You go there, get a table with a cup of tea, eye the goods, make eye contact, nego the price, and go up to their room.

In room it is strip, CBJ or BBJ depending on the FL, do the deed, washup and leave. If you regularly go with a gem you found, she may be more open and provide more GFE after a while. As with all tings, need investment to get value.

Otherwise if you like Viet I have a solid MILF with hourglass figure and see-boobs willing to do outcall that I have cultivated over the years. She only does KL city area, and does not do overnight though but will stay for an hour or two, multiple shots. Good GFE for me, really hardworking FL spending time to give a proper BBBJ and FJ. She has a good body but not that pretty. Look at my past FR. I am not her pimp, just sharing for others benefit. I like her and I believe that if she has good business in KL, she will be here for a while and not leave.

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Presumed they (the girls) just moved from BC to Changkat. Dam I hate change!

Not really, at least based on what I have seen. The Viet in Changkat are mostly older ladies, and very few. No trace of the dolls you are used to see in BC or TC.

I went to Changkat only two times this week, but I did not notice any significantly higher presence of Viets compared to before. Maybe I went on different days compared to I'm.

What I really notice in Changkat, which is very different from the past, is the total lack of Filipinas. What a pity!

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So I was there last week and out in Changkat and BC last Tuesday:
Beach Club was dead when I was in there, and according to a few friends who live there it has been dead for a while. One said there was a big fight after Vietnam beat Malaysia in the Asia Cup. No idea how true this is. May be a crack down, or somebody is trying to put it out of business. Nobody in bottom bar, all inside. Some nice lookers, but lack of girls compared to volume of men meant they were asking for silly money.
Changkat is probably a good place to start and you could always transition down to the BC if you don; t find anything you like. More flavour there. Gypsy and surrounding bars had lots of Viet. There were a number of Africans walking around the street, not as many as later in the week, but still some. A few filipina's sittign in the bar beside Loco. All girls had a few years on them.
I'm actually now totally off KL, but unfortunately have to go there on business. Not a big fan of Viet, no interest in Afircan, and the lack of filipnas bascially cuts my options.
One other thing that was really strange. Normally my WeChat account is pinging with friend requests. I had 4 requests for a whole week in town!

Not good. KL was always my playground of Viets without the hassle of Vietnam. Going in 7 wks. Presumed they (the girls) just moved from BC to Changkat. Dam I hate change!
BTW What silly prices were they asking?
NI.

[Irish Mongrel]

Ok guys, I did RTFF. I'm currently in my SE ASIA trip starting Pattaya and now in Phnom Penh. I had a last minute change of plans and would like to visit KL tomorrow (Tuesday) for 1 night before flying off elsewhere. In reading the more recent reports and ROD for KL, could anyone provide clarification and updates on the following:


I prefer freelancers in bars, clubs, discos and not into spas, massages, or ordering incall.

Thanks in advance.

So I was there last week and out in Changkat and BC last Tuesday:

Beach Club was dead when I was in there, and according to a few friends who live there it has been dead for a while. One said there was a big fight after Vietnam beat Malaysia in the Asia Cup. No idea how true this is. May be a crack down, or somebody is trying to put it out of business. Nobody in bottom bar, all inside. Some nice lookers, but lack of girls compared to volume of men meant they were asking for silly money.

Changkat is probably a good place to start and you could always transition down to the BC if you don; t find anything you like. More flavour there. Gypsy and surrounding bars had lots of Viet. There were a number of Africans walking around the street, not as many as later in the week, but still some. A few filipina's sittign in the bar beside Loco. All girls had a few years on them.

I'm actually now totally off KL, but unfortunately have to go there on business. Not a big fan of Viet, no interest in Afircan, and the lack of filipnas bascially cuts my options.

One other thing that was really strange. Normally my WeChat account is pinging with friend requests. I had 4 requests for a whole week in town!

[MohdirFan82]

What you doing going to in kl is, find same girls Thai, Cambodian, Indon, abd Chinese here in kl.

Unless you want to taste local with high premier.

Almost 90% of girls are import. So if you in Thailand, you better off getting better bang for your bucks.

Ok guys, I did RTFF. I'm currently in my SE ASIA trip starting Pattaya and now in Phnom Penh. I had a last minute change of plans and would like to visit KL tomorrow (Tuesday) for 1 night before flying off elsewhere. In reading the more recent reports and ROD for KL, could anyone provide clarification and updates on the following:.

[MohdirFan82]

What you doing going to in kl is, find same girls Thai, Cambodian, Indon, abd chinese here in kl.

Unless you want to taste local with high premier.

Almost 90% of girls are import. So if you in Thailand, you better off getting better bang for your bucks.

Ok guys, I did RTFF. I'm currently in my SE ASIA trip starting Pattaya and now in Phnom Penh. I had a last minute change of plans and would like to visit KL tomorrow (Tuesday) for 1 night before flying off elsewhere. In reading the more recent reports and ROD for KL, could anyone provide clarification and updates on the following:.

[LocalBoy4]

I was at Fuji Spa last Friday. It was a bad experience. At least you got to get some action. I didn't at all! Not to sure if any of you has experience this before.

Went there with my friend about 1 am, drove around the neighbourhood looking for parking, I noticed also WG hanging around further inwards towards the Chinese school at the end of the road. They could be Viet, there was a really tall lady with nice set of boobs standing at the corner where the WG were hanging out, she was wearing a white top and white shorts, could be the mamasan. Interested, but I thought of getting a bit of a massage and a fuck so we headed for the spa.

Went there via the front door of the KTV, was greeted by a few ushers and we buzzed the door to the spa. Took about half a minute before we were greeted by the captain. Chinese guy with his hp hands free ear piece stuck to his right ear. To my disappointment he told me they didn't have any of the ladies there so I had to come back in half an hour. Oh well, I thought, since we were hungry, decided to get a bite to eat before coming back.

I experienced the same as you. Reckon I should post my experience so other posters don't think yours is a one off. First time I went there on Wednesday 03 April at about 9:30 pm, Papasan (the shorter chinese guy) said they had no girls. Funny thing was I had called earlier and the receptionist didn't warn me. So, next day I phoned and asked specifically, if there were girls. Yes, was the answer. Headed there about 9:30 pm. There were hardly any customers (I reckon the previous day they may have had an entourage of Chinese clientele). I was the only customer using hot tub (they have four) and the steam room.

After steam room, led in to room where the girls were called. From a choice of 4 girls (Indo, Thai, 2 x Viet), I chose a Viet girl. After choosing, the girl leads you by hand to room, where she showers and washes me, especially downstairs. Back in the room, I asked for a little massage. Even though she doesn't do massage (other girls also don't) she agrees. Afterwards, she gave CB, leading to BBBJ, which was amazing. Then we had FJ in 3 positions. After the deed, went back to resting area. They offer you drinks and food. After a bit of a rest, asked papasan for 2nd round. He said there is a 5 or 10% discount (I don't remember exactly but second round came to about 210 RM).

Lineup time, there were about 10 girls. I picked a different Vietnamese. She didn't even know I picked her and tried to walk away with the other girls. So I told papasan (who sits there with you while you do the picking). May be each girl should wear a number (like in some of the Thai places huh? Anyway, just as the girl and I entered the room, I figured she is going to be a dud (I asked her something in Vietnamese and she did not understand. The previous girl understood me). So I come out and speak to papasan (the tall Chinese guy who was dealing with me today) to change girls. Rather than going through the line-up I ask for the same girl as 1st round.

We go in same room again, she washes me. We chat for a bit, then she starts with CB, BBBJ, FJ, again different positions. We go at it for 15-20 minutes. She had a large tattoo on her back. Quite a sight from behind. After deed, we chat again and part ways. It was about 2 am by then. Came home a happy bunny. BTW, Like you I noticed F-lancer WG on side street near spa when coming home on taxi. Taxi driver slowed right down near WG. Don't know if he has some arrangement with them or just curious himself. Anyway, didn't bother stopping for shott, but made mental note.

2nd visit Thursday 25 April. First Visited green elephant then Hokkaido (formerly Sky River), both no go. By the time I got to Fuji it was about 11 pm. After being escorted to the resting area (where they serve food / drink) by shorter of the two papasans, we start talking. I ask to use hot tub. Was told no hottub, due to water cut during that W / end in KL. Just so happens that the area Fuji is located is affected. I ask if if they have water for shower in room, he says 'yes'. I believe him. At lineup there are only three girls. Two Vietnamese, 1 x Indo. I pick the chubbier of the viet girl, because she has pretty face.

In the room, it turns out there is no shower. Instead there is a water bucket filled with water. She pours water on my nipples and Johny. Washed with water cup. It was huge turn off, as the water was cold and it didn't do anything to get me in the mood.

Anyway, back in the room, she gives me CB, BBBJ (which was good), then gets on top and rides. One thing I notice at this point is the girl from 1st time (Ruby) and this girl (also called Ruby. Many Viet girls choose this name I reckon. Translating Vietnamese name to English it becomes Ruby. Vietnamese name very hard to pronounce) both followed the same process. Wash, CB, BBBJ, FJ. Also, if you don't take the lead after BBBJ and go for the FJ position you want, she will invariable get on top of you. So, it seems all the girls are trained with this process. In a way it's good because you won't end up with a girl who is looking to just do deed and skip CB, BBBJ. But then you may find the whole experience a bit repetitive if you go there second time (for second shot of first time. I didn't really mind it being repetitive).

Anyway, she rode me for about 5 minutes then I shot load. I think result of having to hunt around for place, and going without any action (even self-HJ) for about 4-5 days. Also I've found this has happened to me with the slightly chubbier WG's, especially if they have very smooth skin.

Anyway, shot unloaded. I was reasonably happy.

Headed to waiting area. Rested for a while. Maybe 1 HR. Asked Papasan for second shot. This time line-up had about 15 girls. I picked a Viet with hot figure because she smiled at me. Led me to room. By now, there was hot water in the shower. She washed me. Then back to room for CB, then she started tugging at Johny. This is where it went downhill. Johyn was not sailing today. She was tugging at it. Up to now all the girls had gone from CB to BBBJ and everything went fine. After some self-HJ and fingering her, Johny did go full mast. We did missionary for a bit, but soon Mr. X was not playing ball.

She tried to finish off with HJ. But her technique was not good. I tried to finish off with own hand. By then all system were down. She said in all of her 4 years its never happened. If it's true it was really a shame, because she did have a smoking hot figure. Anyway, this has only happened to me once in Vietnam (spa called Sammys in Vung Tau) with similar smoking hot girl. That girl also did bad HJ, which put me off. At least now I know what may be causing it. (Bad HJ).

Left somewhat disappointed, but somewhat happy that there was liftoff on one shot.

All in all, I think, you might have a really good session here, if you pick right girl. I've seen some customers speaking to WG in resting area. Not sure how that works. DO you make selection, then return to resting area, then ask girl to come there where you talk to her?. May be you can ask papasan how this works.

Also, when you enter, ask reception if you need a card with number. First time I went there it was never an issue. Second time, after picking girl at lineup, both papasans asked me for this card with number, which I never received. Caused a bit of confusion but wasn't a show stopper. Apologies if the report is a bit all over the place. But rather get word out.

[Bijou]

Ok guys, I did RTFF. I'm currently in my SE ASIA trip starting Pattaya and now in Phnom Penh. I had a last minute change of plans and would like to visit KL tomorrow (Tuesday) for 1 night before flying off elsewhere. In reading the more recent reports and ROD for KL, could anyone provide clarification and updates on the following:

1. Status in Beach Club? Still a possible crackdown with fewer girls? More girls in the lower "cafe" part instead of the more "bar" part? Still acceptable of 400 for ST?

2. Any updates on Thai Club as to type of girls and prices? Also, TC and BC walking distance to avoid taxi mafia?

3. Any updates on Zion, Gypsy, others?

4. A long time ago, in RTFF I saw detailed directions to the "ACE complex" where if I recall, there is some sort of food court with girls available for pickup. Although, not really my scene, I am curious about this and depending on how much time I have to kill after I get into KL, I may consider going. Anybody have any updates on this scene and how best to get to this location and distance by taxi from the BC or TC area where I most likely will be staying?

I prefer freelancers in bars, clubs, discos and not into spas, massages, or ordering incall.

Thanks in advance.

[Rsmith75]

Definitely not open. I went there on Thursday about 10 pm. It has two yellow lamps on each side of front door. Hokkaido, is next to it. (I think that's a restaurant).
I asked the guy at the Chinese restaurant in the corner of the street (the guy outside with a desk). He said, sky river is the one with the two yellow lamps. Seems he's right, because on google maps skyriver is still there and the picture has two yellow lamps.

Went there pressed the bell a few times, no answer.

Actually, I first visited Green Elephant (near low yat plaza) in Bukit Bintang. Asked papasan the score. Seemed okay (about 200 RM for Vietnamese, Indonesian, Thai. 300 RM for chinese with B2B). However, when I asked if I could see a room, he said they are all booked..

I was at Fuji Spa last Friday. It was a bad experience. At least you got to get some action. I didn't at all! Not to sure if any of you has experience this before.

Went there with my friend about 1 am, drove around the neighbourhood looking for parking, I noticed also WG hanging around further inwards towards the Chinese school at the end of the road. They could be Viet, there was a really tall lady with nice set of boobs standing at the corner where the WG were hanging out, she was wearing a white top and white shorts, could be the mamasan. Interested, but I thought of getting a bit of a massage and a fuck so we headed for the spa.

Went there via the front door of the KTV, was greeted by a few ushers and we buzzed the door to the spa. Took about half a minute before we were greeted by the captain. Chinese guy with his hp hands free ear piece stuck to his right ear. To my disappointment he told me they didn't have any of the ladies there so I had to come back in half an hour. Oh well, I thought, since we were hungry, decided to get a bite to eat before coming back.

Exactly half an hour later, we got back to the spa, we noticed all the lights on the building were off. Puzzled, and thinking only of our dicks, we went ahead inside anyway since there was still some people at the front desk at the KTV. Buzzed the door to the spa, a different Chinese gentleman, also with his hp hands free ear piece on his right ear, opened the door for us and told us they were closed!

We were shocked and very disappointed. 1st they tell us to come back and then they tell us that they were closed. So we thought last resort go check out the WG at the end of the road. To our dismay, they were gone too!

By that time it was already 2.30 am, thought of calling a pimp as advertised on the Internet but not to sure if it was safe. So we called it a night since it was a long day working anyway.

What a shitty start to the weekend to go back with a limp dick.

[LocalBoy4]

Here is the photo. It says refleksologi and aromaterapi above the name "Hokkaido", so it doesn't look like a restaurant to me.

You're right. It's definitely not a restaurant.

Before I went there I googled 'Hokkaido kuala lumpur' and the directions to 'Hokkaido Seafood Restaurant' came up. Then I remembered it used to be called 'sky river', so searched for that instead.

The "Hokkaido" sign is to the left of the entrance isn't it? And the entrance has two lamps on either side of the door? Didn't seem like there was anyone inside. Pressed the bell, there was no answer.

[Irish Mongrel]

I am in Batam now.

My sweet Viet "girlfriend" of the report below has just written me that yesterday she went with a customer (her third customer, being me her second) to hotel. He was rude, and she wanted to leave the room because of that. He got violent and hit her. He punched her belly.

Pisses me off when this shit happens, having personal experience of what these girls go thru with the local authorities, they certainly don; t need it from arseholes like this. I have stepped in between a girl and sub-continetal guys a couple of times. Once in Hong Kong, the other in BATS in Jakarta. Had one guy get very shirty at me, but a: I can handle my self (thank you to the military and the back streets of Belfast for that), and be: I was very regular in BATS at the time, knew the bouncers very well, and very quickly one of them was standing beside me asking if I was having any troubles, with a broad smile on his face. Bit of a sucker for a damsel in distress, and it does get you a lot of kudos.

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I am in Batam now.
My sweet Viet "girlfriend" of the report below has just written me that yesterday she went with a customer (her third customer, being me her second) to hotel. He was rude, and she wanted to leave the room because of that. He got violent and hit her. He punched her belly.
She called me, crying in her bed. Her belly is still painful.
I asked who was this guy and from where, she said Indian. Surprised? I told her to be careful in selecting people, but she has no experience yet in understanding who could be dangerous and who not.
She said she will never go to hotel anymore, because it's too dangerous. She will earn tips for drinking with guests at TC, or so she hopes.
Now you understand why girls become hard and cold after few months of work. Few assholes like that guy are enough. I wish him to find appropriate reward from someone else, more nasty than this naive girl.

No words can describe my disgust and contempt for individuals that treat WG as this person did. I do not confess to be the champion or protector of these ladies. It is easy to see why WG prefer certain nationalities as opposed to others and yes I am not that discriminatory to believe that the perp could be of any nationality. I am a strong believer in karma and I am sure, as BP suggests, he will get his just deserts one day soon.

Many posters report on the tactics and trickery of WG and although every so often yes I get scammed I am firmly of the opinion that a MO of respect and courtesy brings you greater rewards and a more genuine experience from the girls.

NI.

[Black Page]

I am in Batam now.

My sweet Viet "girlfriend" of the report below has just written me that yesterday she went with a customer (her third customer, being me her second) to hotel. He was rude, and she wanted to leave the room because of that. He got violent and hit her. He punched her belly.

She called me, crying in her bed. Her belly is still painful.

I asked who was this guy and from where, she said Indian. [Deleted by Admin] I told her to be careful in selecting people, but she has no experience yet in understanding who could be dangerous and who not.
She said she will never go to hotel anymore, because it's too dangerous. She will earn tips for drinking with guests at TC, or so she hopes.

Now you understand why girls become hard and cold after few months of work. Few assholes like that guy are enough. I wish him to find appropriate reward from someone else, more nasty than this naive girl.