Sao Paulo Reports

[WyattEarp]

Since that time it's been on again off again with the usual money troubles and phone being "lost" etc. So radio silence for 4 months when she pops up on my Instagram feed as active again. Well we are kinda picking up where we left off and I have to say it's exciting.

Good luck Steve. I'm not sure I would have the patience once she started with the money, phone, etc. I hope you can have a nice run with this girl, but my gut tells me that when she senses there is no LTR things can get difficult. Hopefully, when that happens you are in a position to make a clean break.

[WyattEarp]

I never experienced that when visiting any building for punting or for my rental in SP. So, I don't know how those fell out of the realm of "any commercial or residential structure". But you are "big bidness man" visiting important clients so your experience might be different than mine (and apparently less entertaining). The last secured building I did visit in SP, I was merely provided the number of the buzzer to press upon arriving, and didn't see a soul in the building until I was greeted at the door of my hostess.

There's really no point digging in on this issue. Enough of us have significant experience with buildings that require identification. It shouldn't catch mongers here off-guard.

I am friends with middle class Paulistas and they are very security conscious. They prefer buildings with a security desk. Many of the high-end escorts live in these same middle class buildings in areas like Jardins, Moema, etc.

You shouldn't take offense that we are visiting Brazilians who live in more secure buildings and perhaps you are not. Our experiences just differ and the only thing that matters is mongers should be made aware.

[Steve 9696]

So for anyone who was paying attention to my Thifany saga, it's back on!

The short version is this: Boy meets girl in club. (Well actually old man and girl but who's counting) Boy and girl hit it off passionately. Spend 5 hours together having sex twice once together and once with her friend in an epic dupla. I invite her to Join me on a trip to London (crazy!) She accepts (extra crazy!) and we have the time of our lives. Dancing till 3 AM every night and of course epic sex. Absolutely the best time you could possibly have (the entire epic is available to senior members by PMing me.).

Since that time it's been on again off again with the usual money troubles and phone being "lost" etc. So radio silence for 4 months when she pops up on my Instagram feed as active again. Well we are kinda picking up where we left off and I have to say it's exciting. I know for sure she is not LTR material so no slippery slope there. But she is intoxicating to be with so I have to watch myself. Will likely see her in July. I'll keep you posted!

[AltoBomGosto]

Arrived in Sao Paulo on Sunday AM from my overnight flight. Having read earlier reports, I knew to head to the departures area to find the Uber stand, so I headed upstairs and was able to find it without any difficulty. However, the Uber app would not let me request a car using either my cell phone number or Google Voice number, presumably because those were non-local numbers. After trying to get that to work for a few minutes, I eventually gave up and used Guarocoop taxi. It was expensive (R160 to my hotel in Moema), but since I didn't have any other options, I took it. Luckily, my hotel had a room available early, so I was able to get some sleep to compensate for my lack of sleep on the plane.

I set my alarm for 2 pm so I could get to the mall Shopping Ibirapuera when it opened to get my cell phone sorted out. I found the mall rather confusing. Having read earlier posts, I was trying to find the Vivo on the 3rd floor. I ended up at the Vivo on the 2nd floor, and they just told me that I couldn't get a SIM card without Brazilian papers..

As I always pointed up, be early at Tangara, especially on Sundays. If you go after 4 pm maybe you will find 30 dudes waiting for rooms.

I was there today, arrived at 1:30 pm, there were about 25 girls in the house and very few customers. Went with Sophie, a escola de samba type mulata, fantastic service, DFK, BBBJ, and CIM.

ABG.

[Eszpresszo]

Any commercial or residential structure in Sao Paulo will require that you provide identification in order to enter the building. I have clients all over Sao Paulo, when I enter the building I'm required to provide identification, at which point you put into the building register. Every time you enter you're required to show the identification or repeat the registration process if it's you first time there. FYI.

I never experienced that when visiting any building for punting or for my rental in SP. So, I don't know how those fell out of the realm of "any commercial or residential structure". But you are "big bidness man" visiting important clients so your experience might be different than mine (and apparently less entertaining). The last secured building I did visit in SP, I was merely provided the number of the buzzer to press upon arriving, and didn't see a soul in the building until I was greeted at the door of my hostess.

[KPete]

Arrived in Sao Paulo on Sunday AM from my overnight flight. Having read earlier reports, I knew to head to the departures area to find the Uber stand, so I headed upstairs and was able to find it without any difficulty. However, the Uber app would not let me request a car using either my cell phone number or Google Voice number, presumably because those were non-local numbers. After trying to get that to work for a few minutes, I eventually gave up and used Guarocoop taxi. It was expensive (R160 to my hotel in Moema), but since I didn't have any other options, I took it. Luckily, my hotel had a room available early, so I was able to get some sleep to compensate for my lack of sleep on the plane.

I set my alarm for 2 pm so I could get to the mall Shopping Ibirapuera when it opened to get my cell phone sorted out. I found the mall rather confusing. Having read earlier posts, I was trying to find the Vivo on the 3rd floor. I ended up at the Vivo on the 2nd floor, and they just told me that I couldn't get a SIM card without Brazilian papers. I went up another floor and eventually found the other Vivo store. There was a queue, so I took a number and waited until I was called. Although the person helping me didn't speak either of my languages (English or Spanish), we got by with some of my poor Portunol and Google Translate, and I did eventually get a SIM card (R15) and a 2 GB data plan that lasts one week (R12). Including the wait time, that took around 45 minutes. I headed back downstairs and found the Banco Santander on the first floor. Again, having read earlier posts, I knew that not all of the ATM machines would work with my foreign ATM card, but I eventually found one that did (the second from the left, I believe). I then grabbed a quick lunch at the mall (there a lot of good options there).

After lunch, I summoned an Uber car to take me to Clinica Tangara. For some reason, the Uber app would not work with my credit card, so I decided to pay in cash instead, which you can do in Brazil. In retrospect, I think that's the way to go, since it costs the same and eliminates all of the small Uber transactions from your credit card bill (which at least gets rid of an annoyance and is good for those requiring discretion).

I got to Tangara around 4 pm. As others have said, the building is pretty nondescript from the outside, just a blue door and gate in a stone wall. Inside it is also nondescript but is clean enough, and the management is very kind and friendly. Although the manager and desk person that day did not speak English, they had some English-speaking regulars check on me from time to time to make sure that I was okay. Every time a new man arrived, the manager had the girls come and introduce themselves. There were around 25 girls, but because it was relatively late in the day, there were also a lot of men waiting. I'm pretty picky (especially with the face), but for me the girls ranged from 3-4/10 on the low end to 7/10 on the high end with most in the middle. There were 3 girls I was considering, but one seemed a bit cold, one seemed annoyed when she was dealing with another English-speaking client, and the last seemed to be having a bad day and was not in a good mood. So once it started getting dark around 6:30 pm, I decided to leave without taking a girl to the room. (FYI, Tangara closes at 8 pm on Sunday).

More to come.

[AltoBomGosto]

Tangara will be open today from 12 am till 8 pm.

ABG.

Sophie, nice looking mulata, DFK, BBBJ, and CIM. New in the house.

ABG.

[AltoBomGosto]

I believe the whole point of the thread was to point out places that were off the beaten path for visitors that have already tried the more well known places that are usually described. So, yes, first timers should not bother to go to these places until after they have tried the Moema and Vila Mariana places. The original author wrote as much saying that he has been visiting SP for years and wanted to try something new.

As for you comment about avoiding Analia Franco because you found the staff to be unpleasant "to you". I truly hope that no readers are basing their plans on your limited experiences at these places.

Espaço Maytuna, rua Conselheiro Saraiva 628, Santana.

Near metro Tietê and the bus terminal, it's near the GRU A, Airport, 170 reais one hour.

[AltoBomGosto]

Tangara will be open today from 12 am till 8 pm.

ABG.

[Member #4732]

Espaco Marengo and Kelly's do indeed have friendly managers. But the staff at Analia Franco are very sneering, and that attitude communicates itself to the girls. Best avoided.

There are plenty of good clinicas that are more central anyway. I wouldn't say it is worth going all the way out to Tatuap. Only if you happen to be in the area pop into Marengo and Kelly's and see if anyone catches your fancy.

I believe the whole point of the thread was to point out places that were off the beaten path for visitors that have already tried the more well known places that are usually described. So, yes, first timers should not bother to go to these places until after they have tried the Moema and Vila Mariana places. The original author wrote as much saying that he has been visiting SP for years and wanted to try something new.

As for you comment about avoiding Analia Franco because you found the staff to be unpleasant "to you". I truly hope that no readers are basing their plans on your limited experiences at these places.

[Polyamorist]

In Tatuape, try Espaco Morengo and Kelly's; both are worth a visit as the managers are very friendly (I have sessioned at both).

Good list. You only left out Clinica Analia Franco in your Tatuape group. If you are in that area its worth it.

Espaco Marengo and Kelly's do indeed have friendly managers. But the staff at Analia Franco are very sneering, and that attitude communicates itself to the girls. Best avoided.

There are plenty of good clinicas that are more central anyway. I wouldn't say it is worth going all the way out to Tatuapé. Only if you happen to be in the area pop into Marengo and Kelly's and see if anyone catches your fancy.

[DreamCarnarvon]

I just flew into Moema today. Tomorrow take care of some business but I'm here for 2 weeks and looking forward to taking the tour myself. Can you give any names of favorite girls or maybe best clinica experiences overall. I'm staying in Moema so it would be nice to walk to the locations. I'll probably go to Tangara at some point because it's gotten so many recommendations here, but that means an Uber or metro ride.

Hope you are enjoying your clinica experiences so far. I would recommend you to use the metro if you are not pressed for time. The Sao Paulo metro is extremely efficient and most of the clinicas are close to at least one metro station. Most importantly, you will be treated to many beautiful young women. The Brazilian women are almost always very well dressed and are not shy.

I don't know what your preferences are so its best to just go to the clinicas and checkout the lineups yourself. Most of the receptionists are very nice. If you don't speak Portuguese, just say 'apresentação, por favor', have a seat on the sofa and wait for the girls to come out and introduce themselves. Most girls will do DFK, BBBJ, DATY, which I found is pretty much the standard here in Brasil. If you want anal or CIM then you will have to ask the girl. Some do, some will not. All of the girls I came across did not speak any English. Use forumcutuca, click the last page of the clinica you plan to visit, and look at the latest TDs, which will usually include the price. My range has been as low as R120 to R260 for an hour of session. But do not equate price to quality of session.

[Member #4732]

Drawing from my limited experiences at the clinicas of Rio and SP, I find them to be completely different in terms of the vibe and atmosphere. Someone here earlier mentioned that visits to SPs clinicas are meant to be enjoyed not rushed. Well, rushed is how I felt when I was at the Rio clinicas. Maybe it was because they were located in centro and always seems to be full of clients that I felt pressured to make a choice right away. The entire experience felt too much like a factory assembly line, if you know what I mean.

The clinicas here in SP on the other hand have a much more relaxed atmosphere. Most of time there were only 1-2 other clients at the presentation area. And a couple of times I was the only one. The exception is of course Tangara. Both of the times I've been there (on a weekday and Saturday) there were quite a few clients. But even so, it still felt chilled to me and not rushed. I even saw several people just sitting there and having casual chats with the girls, much like the termas in Rio. And all the receptionists have been nice, which can contribute to the overall experience.

Yes, I have said this several times. The entire clinica model in SP is very different from Rio. Reception area, room furnishings, conviviality amongst clients. Rio clinicas have a furtive, secretive feel about them. They don't want any client to see any other client. They want you to decide or leave ASAP. SP clinicas are welcoming and relaxed, and best of all they are on the ground floor, no need to wait on the 1950's era Rio elevators.

[Polyamorist]

The clinicas here in SP on the other hand have a much more relaxed atmosphere. Most of time there were only 1-2 other clients at the presentation area. And a couple of times I was the only one. The exception is of course Tangara. Both of the times I've been there (on a weekday and Saturday) there were quite a few clients. But even so, it still felt chilled to me and not rushed. I even saw several people just sitting there and having casual chats with the girls, much like the termas in Rio. And all the receptionists have been nice, which can contribute to the overall experience.

Salaam Mr Carnarvon. In my experience Tangara is pretty much always crowded with guys. I like to wait for a pretty girl. But as soon as one appears she is grabbed by a local. I feel like I'm in a competition, which is not what I go to these places for.

And if a girl is pretty and none of the locals is taking her, you have to wonder: do they know something I don't?

Now I know I will be slaughtered by Tangara fans/promoters. Just my 2 dirhams anyway.

[AltoBomGosto]

This Sao Paulo trip has completely changed my perception about clinicas / casa de massagem. For the most part of my visits to Brasil, I have mainly been a Rio guy and its termas and boates. The few times I did visit Rio's casa de massagem, the sessions were all below par to the termas and boates. Hence I avoided them like a plague. This years trip however was different. I flew into Sao Paulo for the first time ever instead of Rio because I found a great roundtrip deal on COPA. My last time here was at least 4-5 years ago so I thought I'd stay here for a couple of days then head my way to Rio. Well, now the couple of days has been turned into 20 days.

Thanks to forumcutuca and google map, I have been on a tour of the clinicas. So far I have only visited the clinicas in Vila Mariana, Moema, and Planalto Paulista, 9 in 3 days to be exact. There are a few that didn't fit my taste, a few that had 3-5 girls that I would fuck in a heartbeat, with the rest being in the middle. The amazing thing is I've barely scratched the surface. Visiting each new clinica and the delight of discovering a hidden gem has been almost as fun as the sessions with the girls itself. So far all the girls were good to wonderful, thankfully. I'm looking forward to checking out the clinicas in Brooklin, Morumbi, Tatuap , etc in the up coming days..

To explain the difference between Clinicas and Privées in São Paulo we have to go back 30 years when the first clinicas opened, there was service massage and HJ only. With the time more and more clinics went into real sex, always charging separate fee for the complete services. There are still very few clinicas who operate this way. Today a clinica is only a better place to have sex whit more comfort. But each clinica has his own policy so better get informed before you bang. There are no many English speaking girls or staff.

So if you want special services like DFK, BBBJ, ANAL and CIM better go with a local to explain to the girl what you expect.

Privées at the beginning were cheaper but the quality was bad compared to the clinicas. Nowadays there are privées as good as clinicas and vice versa.

RTFF to select your best choice.

If you have any specific question please. PM me.

ABG.