Kyiv

[AntonySun1996]

Hi guys,

I've been following the threads here for some time and about to go to Kiev for the first time. I'the like to ask for some practical advice regarding accommodation. I've found a good apartment on Pushkinska St but Google maps shows something that looks like a police booth close to the entrance of the building. Does this sound like a bad idea to you when it comes to having girls come over to the apartment? Or not?

Thanks for any advice!

While police raids to apartment brothels do occasionally occur in Ukraine, the police doesn't care much about P2Ps. So I would say it is fairly safe to have girls coming to your apartment even under the eyes of the police.

[PhotoSlider]

For 150 you can get an absolute Model between 18 -22 for an hour or even two in Kiev.

150 Euro is 4000+ UAH. Sure you can.

1 hour from KEC. 2-3 hours from reliable validated through prior visits source (Viber agency). For that much money easily can be 6-10 hours with regular contact. Yes, true model in the common sense of that term.

Would be newbie able to achieve that level? Maybe with KEC, most likely for more money, like 5000 UAH first hour and 16000 UAH for 10 hours (500+ Euro, or 50 Euro per hour for 10 hours):

https://kievescort.club/girl/katia12

But not with any other regular agency in short time interval. Money versus time versus effort versus quality and convenience. Old laws of economy.

Pattaya is easier than Kiev for sure.

[PhotoSlider]

In response to PhotoSlider (can't quote it always gives me an error with tag usage).

2 weeks just in order to fuck some (hot or semi-hot) girls is absolutely not feasible in my opinion. You should be able to set up things in much less time. Which would be the only reason for Europeans to go to Kiev anyway. If you have so much time you might as well just hit Pattaya (waaaaaaay more girls and convenience and even though prices have been going up the past 10 years it still is the prime destination for paid pussy).

I myself am German and I am quite heavily against FKKs (its nice in the beginning don't get me wrong) just too expensive and the service is quite hit or miss with these Romanian girls.

For 150 you can get an absolute Model between 18 -22 for an hour or even two in Kiev. Not so much in Germany.

You may google and learn basic HTML for quotes, it's simple.

How many times have you been to Kiev?

When was your last time? How many years ago?

How long do you typically stay?

What is your budget? Total and per hour?

What do you call "a model"?

To me a 19-21 years old student with minimal makeup, clean cloth, fit, good manners, sincere and friendly is better than any so called model. I meet young ladies in Kiev for my own pleasure, not for bragging rights.

If you are happy with girls in Thailand or Mexico, and have no particular preference for Ukrainian beauties then don't go to Kiev. It is not cheap and not easy at all. In my opinion, however, the reward justifies the effort.

I said 2 weeks because many gentlemen left unhappy staying for only 3-5 days. There is no drive-through FKK or Pattaya style ordering in Kiev. Yes, I know, you want it, but it doesn't exist the way you want it. Bars, strip clubs, apartment brothels are all self-deception. GIA-KEC is expensive and these days doesn't guarantee good quality. There are still great KEC girls, but even in Kiev there are significantly more affordable alternatives with great quality.

I do rapid fire agency ordering sifting through candidates and calling up my regulars from prior visits.

No later than today, in anticipation of my imminent arrival to Kiev, I sent a Viber request to my agency dispatcher. I know her since November 2017. The following conversation transpired:

- Hi, Oksana! Sorry, I am not in Kiev yet, but will be soon. If you have a minute, could you please resolve a dispute I am having? I am saying that when I arrive to Kiev, with your help and with my prior contacts I can easily have 2-3 amazingly beautiful girls with good manners for no more than 2100 UAH per hour within my first 24 hours in Kiev. And my ever so doubtful counterparts that were cheated in Kiev and didn't visit it for few years now state that Kiev sucks, that due to visa-free all the decent Ukrainian girls traveled to Europe and Middle East, and those girls that stay in Kiev are either ugly, or short, or old, or expensive. Would you mind resolving our dispute please? Who says the truth?

Of course being the agency dispatcher she is marketing her goods. For her it was 10 pm Friday night, and she was very busy, so her response was curt and straight to the point:

- You do. You tell the truth. There are new girls all the time. Young, beautiful, tall, well-mannered students. We are awaiting for your arrival.

And I ordered from that agency a lot. Dozens and dozens and dozens. Yes there were occasional mishaps, yes I speak local language, yes I am able to explain what exactly I want, and I am not afraid to reject when they send me bad ones, I also do not mind bait and switch at all, as long as those that arrived satisfy my requirements.

Many of my friends from this Forum have seen and confirmed the quality, and shared theirs. The rest is theological argument.

You want to go to Pattaya or Moscow or Tijuana, then forget about Kiev, and please do your thing, stop daydreaming about Kiev. More girls for the rest of us. NP at all.

Cheap readily available models for newbies in Kiev never existed.

And speaking about foreigners not being an object of interest anymore. Sex tourists aren't.

I had the following occasion of trading up a used iPhone in Kiev. Needed more memory. They asked for my passport. Stupid me, I gave it. You should have seen how the attitude of that girl has changed 180 degrees from being all business, an impregnable fortress to a smiling beauty looking for a way to prolong our conversation. She didn't know that my GF was sitting on a side bench, and trying not to laugh aloud. But I returned later and we addressed our mutual needs in amicable fashion.

Realistic expectations are the key in Kiev.

End of story.

[PhotoSlider]

Hi guys,

I've been following the threads here for some time and about to go to Kiev for the first time. I'the like to ask for some practical advice regarding accommodation. I've found a good apartment on Pushkinska St but Google maps shows something that looks like a police booth close to the entrance of the building. Does this sound like a bad idea to you when it comes to having girls come over to the apartment? Or not?

Thanks for any advice!

It could be security station guarding one of the Embassies on Pushkinska. They wouldn't care. But if you feel nervous, find somewhere else. AirBnB has enough.

[GDreams]

Being to near a police station ain't a good idea if you want to meet girl there. But maybe they don't care.

I like pushinska, it's very central, good place.

Anyway I prefer to stay out of inner center. You always move with uber, it's cheap and so you can stay in residential areas where living is cheaper.

You will pay less going around with uber than renting a central apartment.

I am the opposite, so many nice places to walk around central Kiev, easy to organise meetings as girls take metro or marshutka, lots of nice restaurants and much nicer to be able to back and forth to he apartment.

[GDreams]

Hi guys,

I've been following the threads here for some time and about to go to Kiev for the first time. I'the like to ask for some practical advice regarding accommodation. I've found a good apartment on Pushkinska St but Google maps shows something that looks like a police booth close to the entrance of the building. Does this sound like a bad idea to you when it comes to having girls come over to the apartment? Or not?

Thanks for any advice!

I stayed on Pushkinska, don't recall any police booth. Its a good location, very central, nice for walking, lots of restaurants and easy for girls to come and meet you there.

[Arkiloko]

Hi guys,

I've been following the threads here for some time and about to go to Kiev for the first time. I'the like to ask for some practical advice regarding accommodation. I've found a good apartment on Pushkinska St but Google maps shows something that looks like a police booth close to the entrance of the building. Does this sound like a bad idea to you when it comes to having girls come over to the apartment? Or not?

Thanks for any advice!

Being to near a police station ain't a good idea if you want to meet girl there. But maybe they don't care.

I like pushinska, it's very central, good place.

Anyway I prefer to stay out of inner center. You always move with uber, it's cheap and so you can stay in residential areas where living is cheaper.

You will pay less going around with uber than renting a central apartment.

[DramaFree11]

Almost impossible to even find a model in Kiev on a short stay. Maybe if you are working there and can speak the language, but highly unlikely you have a better chance becoming a professional athlete.

When you guys make these ridiculous statements, you are lying to yourself and more importantly others. Guys read this crap and believe it.

If you want models here where to go:

1. Russia.

2. Europe.

3. Germany.

4. New York.

5. Latin Americal.

6. Vegas, LA, San Diego.

7. Asia.

8. Kiev is at the bottom of the barrel, sorry the truth hurts.

[DramaFree11]

In response to PhotoSlider (can't quote it always gives me an error with tag usage).

2 weeks just in order to fuck some (hot or semi-hot) girls is absolutely not feasible in my opinion. You should be able to set up things in much less time. Which would be the only reason for Europeans to go to Kiev anyway. If you have so much time you might as well just hit Pattaya (waaaaaaay more girls and convenience and even though prices have been going up the past 10 years it still is the prime destination for paid pussy).

I myself am German and I am quite heavily against FKKs (its nice in the beginning don't get me wrong) just too expensive and the service is quite hit or miss with these Romanian girls.

For 150 you can get an absolute Model between 18 -22 for an hour or even two in Kiev. Not so much in Germany.

No way a model in Kiev for $150,completely delusional. Maybe a 5 or 6. Just because a girl Kiss you and talks to you does not make them a model. Way better looking girls in Germany, Europe and Russia then Kiev.

[AntonySun1996]

But, what is WU?(Stevie).

Western Union.

Some use it to send money overseas.

[Francis4]

Hi guys,

I've been following the threads here for some time and about to go to Kiev for the first time. I'the like to ask for some practical advice regarding accommodation. I've found a good apartment on Pushkinska St but Google maps shows something that looks like a police booth close to the entrance of the building. Does this sound like a bad idea to you when it comes to having girls come over to the apartment? Or not?

Thanks for any advice!

[PhotoSlider]

Tmac wrote a good report, and in good, intelligible English. Thanks. I wish more guys would tell us about the tricks of these girls, often professional scammers. I don't think that I have an evil mind, but I really think the profile of this (and similar) girl should've been revealed. For us to avoid, or she will turn to the next guy.

But, what is WU. ? (Stevie).

Western Union. Funds transfer.

WU incurs fee. These days girls ask for deposit directly into their bank account. Ukrainian banking system easily allows that between different individuals and even different banks. Quite often without any fee.

Again, the best practice is not to do any online transfers. Especially before the commodities are delivered.

Agree with Roll Buzz, IG profile of that ummmm female should be revealed. Not for persecution or prosecution, but for prevention. Perhaps a blacklist thread creation may be considered.

[DramaFree11]

Tmac wrote a good report, and in good, intelligible English. Thanks. I wish more guys would tell us about the tricks of these girls, often professional scammers. I don't think that I have an evil mind, but I really think the profile of this (and similar) girl should've been revealed. For us to avoid, or she will turn to the next guy.

But, what is WU. ? (Stevie).

Sorry Tmac, is just not a good source. Some his information is real bad and over inflated, just not true or hyped up.

[Argo1990]

In response to PhotoSlider (can't quote it always gives me an error with tag usage).

2 weeks just in order to fuck some (hot or semi-hot) girls is absolutely not feasible in my opinion. You should be able to set up things in much less time. Which would be the only reason for Europeans to go to Kiev anyway. If you have so much time you might as well just hit Pattaya (waaaaaaay more girls and convenience and even though prices have been going up the past 10 years it still is the prime destination for paid pussy).

I myself am German and I am quite heavily against FKKs (its nice in the beginning don't get me wrong) just too expensive and the service is quite hit or miss with these Romanian girls.

For 150€ you can get an absolute Model between 18 -22 for an hour or even two in Kiev. Not so much in Germany.

[Guntherus]

Tmac wrote a good report, and in good, intelligible English. Thanks. I wish more guys would tell us about the tricks of these girls, often professional scammers. I don't think that I have an evil mind, but I really think the profile of this (and similar) girl should've been revealed. For us to avoid, or she will turn to the next guy.

But, what is WU?