Bangkok Massage Parlors - TULIP ONLY!

[EihTooms]

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I am struggling to enjoy condom sex myself these days, particularly difficult for extended fucks. Viagra assist helps counteract the condom deadening effect for long fucks, but not a complete answer. I might be doing an ET and carrying my test certificate / printouts soon. Ha ha.

It is good to have it on hand to show if necessary. But it is rarely necessary. Usually, I'll just say something like, "I've had the vasectomy surgery (saying the word in Thai) so I will not make you pregnant and I am clean and safe for you." Most of the time if there is any chance the girl would be up for BB with me, that is all she needs to hear.

Yeah, that last part is vague and cannot be known 100% by anyone. But I know that Thai girls are almost exclusively worried about HIV, despite the fact that they have likely never met an HIV positive customer or potential boyfriend. So if she says, "How do you know you're safe? You have so many ladies!", I've got a recent test result to show her. It doesn't work to overcome their fears every time, for sure. But it helps quite often. I might be the only punter they have ever met who can honestly say he's gotten a vasectomy AND has a recent HIV test result to show.

[Catire]

They are getting better educated. Firstly Gonorrhea and Chlamydia so easy to catch, but more importantly condom is extra protection against pregnancy. We all know what a high percentage of young Thai hookers (and non hookers too) got pregnant accidentally and no abortion. Girl also runs a significant risk of HIV, should the guy also happen to be a drug user. Hardly surprising many girls don't want a CIP.

I am not lecturing, I just state the obvious reasons why a girl does not want it. It adds a risk for sure.

I am struggling to enjoy condom sex myself these days, particularly difficult for extended fucks. Viagra assist helps counteract the condom deadening effect for long fucks, but not a complete answer. I might be doing an ET and carrying my test certificate / printouts soon. Ha ha.

Completely agree with Syzygies here, and as a guy who has sought out BBFS myself.

I NEVER blame the girl for saying no. It is a very serious occupational hazard in their occupation and if I were a working girl, everything penetrative outside of oral would be encased in rubber / latex.

I supposed this makes me a big hypocrite for seeking out something I myself would not provide if roles were reversed. But if my tool didn't have the issues it has with the latex. I'd be perfectly content wearing latex (as it's safer for me too). So I'm envious of the guys who have no issues fucking several times a day wearing a rubber- or even once a day several days in a row. My first time after say a week plus of non sexual contact is generally fine with a rubber. If anything it makes me last longer (though not nearly as intense, feeling wise) - but after that first time, subsequent encasings in latex are invitations to disasters, and frankly, no longer feel good anymore.

[Syzygies]

They are getting brainwashed about condom use, IMO. Or maybe it is just my looks. 555.

They are getting better educated. Firstly Gonorrhea and Chlamydia so easy to catch, but more importantly condom is extra protection against pregnancy. We all know what a high percentage of young Thai hookers (and non hookers too) got pregnant accidentally and no abortion. Girl also runs a significant risk of HIV, should the guy also happen to be a drug user. Hardly surprising many girls don't want a CIP.

I am not lecturing, I just state the obvious reasons why a girl does not want it. It adds a risk for sure.

I am struggling to enjoy condom sex myself these days, particularly difficult for extended fucks. Viagra assist helps counteract the condom deadening effect for long fucks, but not a complete answer. I might be doing an ET and carrying my test certificate / printouts soon. Ha ha.

[EihTooms]

Good luck getting such info. In my own experience, I noticed it is getting more and more difficult the last few years to get BBFS in Bangkok- or Pattaya for that matter (e. G. Soi 6). And I promise the ladies generous tip for the extra service. Last time, I did a survey: It took me asking about 15 girls on Soi 6 in Pattaya (more liberal than BKK) for BBFS- until one finally said yes (w / pull out). They are getting brainwashed about condom use, IMO. Or maybe it is just my looks. 555.

I know what you mean about Pattaya. That is my experience, too. But I lose interest in Pattaya girls long before I hit up as many as 15 of them. lol. I'm ok with stopping at 3-4. I seriously doubt I have missed out on anything worth paying as much as 100-200 baht for in my last 6-7 trips there.

But I have found BBFS+CIP to be easier to swing these days in Bangkok than it was 20-25 years ago. Of course, 20-25 years ago was the height of the HIV/AIDS pro-condom hysteria. However, it is certainly not a skate or easy to get in Thailand today as it is in other countries. One thing I have discovered is it is not easier to get among the groups you would ordinarily think it would be more likely to agree to it; street girls, so-called PSE shops, among older, worn out or less attractive ladies (see my Pattaya comment above). No. It has been easier for me to get an upfront agreement for it with younger, more fit, above average go-go dancers, regular girls (and often Freelancers) you meet working in restaurants, malls and on dating sites.

I would say from the total lack of positive replies to my questions in that post, there are zero places in Thailand where what I described is available and zero mamasans or papasans who know enough about their girls to point out which ones are up for it and zero chance the girls would let them know about it anyway. So much for the "Just ask the mamasans or papasans. Tell them what you want. They will steer you right. They've heard it all and won't be shocked" bit of advice I've been reading and hearing re P4P destinations most of my life but has never turned out to be true.

[Tiradentes]

If what you say is true I might be willing to give some of these kinds of Thai PSE shops another try.

Could you or anyone else on the board direct me to the Thai PSE shops where most of the girls just go for BBBJ+CIM+SWALLOW and BBFS+CIP on request, never say no and don't demand extra money for it? Tulip and which others?

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Good luck getting such info. In my own experience, I noticed it is getting more and more difficult the last few years to get BBFS in Bangkok- or Pattaya for that matter (e. G. Soi 6). And I promise the ladies generous tip for the extra service. Last time, I did a survey: It took me asking about 15 girls on Soi 6 in Pattaya (more liberal than BKK) for BBFS- until one finally said yes (w / pull out). They are getting brainwashed about condom use, IMO. Or maybe it is just my looks. 555.

[Ixgzca]

I've tried Analisa but it didn't work for me. Maybe I didn't click with a girl.

Did you specifically ask or be fisted? If not then it's unlikely to happen. I've had a few girls ask to fist, only one or two were joking. Not my cup of tea but definitely available.

[Tabasco72]

Try Analisa Massage. They specifically provide this.

Most of the girls at tulip will probably do it too. Maybe bring them some gloves and lube as well.

I've tried Analisa but it didn't work for me. Maybe I didn't click with a girl.

[Ixgzca]

Want to try fisting, I. E. Girl will fist me (yeah. I know, I know.) Who will be the best? Experienced and with patience?

T. 72.

Try Analisa Massage. They specifically provide this.

Most of the girls at tulip will probably do it too. Maybe bring them some gloves and lube as well.

[Tabasco72]

Want to try fisting, I. E. Girl will fist me (yeah. I know, I know.) Who will be the best? Experienced and with patience?

T. 72.

[Supmam]

I can't remember the last bad time I had there.

I spent time fucking the new nadear last year, OMG. I just wanted Leena to leave us haha. When nadear came (well ID like to think she did) near on broke my cock. Back soon. Going to enjoy every minute of it.

I haven't been with Golf or Ying (they are on my the to-do list!) there but always had a great time at Tulip for whatever I like with other girls. But I don't think I'm generally asking for anything they would say no to anyways or anything more extreme (I don't ask for BBFS for example). But I've had nothing but good experiences with PSE at Tulip, they've been open to whatever porn stuff I ask them to do, as much as I'd like and more than enthusiastic about it. I think they know why the place has the reputation it does and don't want to disappoint.

[GrapeMan]

Tulip is one of the most hardcore services anywhere. For Leena June and Golf I don't think no exists in their vocab. Never been with Ying and some of the others but I'm guessing the legends of this place no never exists.

I haven't been with Golf or Ying (they are on my the to-do list!) there but always had a great time at Tulip for whatever I like with other girls. But I don't think I'm generally asking for anything they would say no to anyways or anything more extreme (I don't ask for BBFS for example). But I've had nothing but good experiences with PSE at Tulip, they've been open to whatever porn stuff I ask them to do, as much as I'd like and more than enthusiastic about it. I think they know why the place has the reputation it does and don't want to disappoint.

[Supmam]

Tulip is one of the most hardcore services anywhere. For Leena June and Golf I don't think no exists in their vocab. Never been with Ying and some of the others but I'm guessing the legends of this place no never exists.

This is good advice for mongering anywhere, be it the Thai MPs or wherever in the world.

That said, the PSE places in thailand are totally known for being PSEs, so most girls in those establishments are ready to go full PSE as normal and that's just what they do, its more than just getting A+ or whatever. Sure you can find girls willing to do anything for a price in any of the MPs, but the PSEs really are more of a package experience than a single "will you do X" sorta thing. The PSE MPs expect the customers to ask for all sorts of stuff in the room and that's normal, you won't get at "no" or "you pay more", they just go with it.

[GrapeMan]

Reads a bit confusing to me. Not all girls do absolutely anything. They set limits in their own mind. As a simple example, most girls will do BBBJ with CIM, but not many wanted to swallow it (without an incentive). Some would secretly spit it out so customer did not even know. I have read triumphant reports of where the girl supposedly swallowed (without even being requested to do so) yet the girl informed me she never swallowed (as I suspected and knew she surreptitiously got rid of it silently), and denied swallowing or being willing to do so.

Sure many PSE things are somewhat standard and don't have an extra charge, however I think the advice to ask about what you "require" before going to the room has more chance to avoid disappointment, and something particularly strange is possibly not a free addition.

In my experience, granted a bit limited in recent years (however I used to be a Tulip customer), certain girls rule out certain acts virtually absolutely. Maybe for 1 million Baht they would risk it, but that is academic. Has to depend on how standard or how weird is the thing wanted, and even how much the girl likes the customer sometimes. Some girls generally don't do something, but may bend their own self imposed rules for a preferred customer (new customer off the street wanting something weird maybe less likely).

You're right, I was oversimplifying the situation to make it a shorter post, which I should not have. But yes, in full agreement here and your expertise and tactness is always appreciated man! My point was just that the PSE places more stuff is "standard"/ expected than others. But I almost always ask before as well even PSEs and setting the requirements of what you want should be always done if there's any question.

Slightly off topic but to reply to another side of your post- I've oddly enough had lots of luck with swallowing unprompted (I generally don't ask for it, but its nice), especially at Dr. BJs / Wood bar, and the occasional MP girl. I'm really of the belief that swallowing tends to be a more YMMV thing unless its really really explicit that they better do it.

[EihTooms]

This is good advice for mongering anywhere, be it the Thai MPs or wherever in the world.

That said, the PSE places in thailand are totally known for being PSEs, so most girls in those establishments are ready to go full PSE as normal and that's just what they do, its more than just getting A+ or whatever. Sure you can find girls willing to do anything for a price in any of the MPs, but the PSEs really are more of a package experience than a single "will you do X" sorta thing. The PSE MPs expect the customers to ask for all sorts of stuff in the room and that's normal, you won't get at "no" or "you pay more", they just go with it.

If what you say is true I might be willing to give some of these kinds of Thai PSE shops another try.

Could you or anyone else on the board direct me to the Thai PSE shops where most of the girls just go for BBBJ+CIM+SWALLOW and BBFS+CIP on request, never say no and don't demand extra money for it? Tulip and which others?

Even more valuable info; could you or anyone else on the board name the mamasan or papasan in the PSE shops (or any other venue in Thailand for that matter) who will easily and without expressing disapproval point out which girls in their venue will agree to BBBJ+CIM+SWALLOW and BBFS+CIP, not say no and will not demand more money for it?

Thanks in advance for your help.

[Syzygies]

Sure you can find girls willing to do anything for a price in any of the MPs, but the PSEs really are more of a package experience than a single "will you do X" sorta thing. The PSE MPs expect the customers to ask for all sorts of stuff in the room and that's normal, you won't get at "no" or "you pay more", they just go with it.

Reads a bit confusing to me. Not all girls do absolutely anything. They set limits in their own mind. As a simple example, most girls will do BBBJ with CIM, but not many wanted to swallow it (without an incentive). Some would secretly spit it out so customer did not even know. I have read triumphant reports of where the girl supposedly swallowed (without even being requested to do so) yet the girl informed me she never swallowed (as I suspected and knew she surreptitiously got rid of it silently), and denied swallowing or being willing to do so.

Sure many PSE things are somewhat standard and don't have an extra charge, however I think the advice to ask about what you "require" before going to the room has more chance to avoid disappointment, and something particularly strange is possibly not a free addition.

In my experience, granted a bit limited in recent years (however I used to be a Tulip customer), certain girls rule out certain acts virtually absolutely. Maybe for 1 million Baht they would risk it, but that is academic. Has to depend on how standard or how weird is the thing wanted, and even how much the girl likes the customer sometimes. Some girls generally don't do something, but may bend their own self imposed rules for a preferred customer (new customer off the street wanting something weird maybe less likely).