Bangkok Reports

[Nounce]

Nope. If a big group of non-westerner tourists shows up, I will leave the place and go elsewhere. I've never seen a group of Indians, Arabs, Africans, or even Asians who were hilarious to be around in those bars. Just the opposite. There are obviously different senses of humor and views of what a fun night out includes in different cultures.

Asians like to party in group. That is why KTV is so popular.

[Penguin69]

Touched down at Suvarnabhumi Airport (BKK). Would've gone to Super Rich or Vasu at the lower level of the airport but flew in after hours. Exchanged money at the airport at one of the money exchange stands and got 9500 baht for the 1st night. Will end up exchanging at Vasu on Sukhumvit the rest of the trip as the rate is good, and the a / see feels great.

TAXI.

The taxi ride from Suvarnabhumi Airport to Nana Entertainment Plaza is about 320 to 350 baht as read from the taxi's meter and adding toll fees. These were the observed amounts going to and from the airport at around midnight when traffic is light to none, and taxi drivers are not as busy. A taxi driver offering 400 baht, including toll fees, is fair while 500 baht is worth considering though not over that amount. Tuk tuks are dangerous to ride in given it's a death trap and because the driver tries to go as fast as possible, cuts off cars, and other drivers are reckless as well. The preference is to ride in an air conditioned taxi, however tuk tuks are fine going short distances for a hundred baht..

Strange report. What's with the info on numbers? And the girl rating scale? Is this the official you. And scale or the S. E. A scale? The summary on the plaza was a welcome addition to the bank.

[Paolo99]

Tinder, Thai Friendly, Thai Cupid.

Just pay for 1 month of premium service. Won't go into detail about each avenue other than to include in your profile what dates you will be in Thailand and have a good picture of yourself if you want replies because you will not get one without a picture. Also don't waste their time if you're not in Thailand or at most 1 week from visiting as you risk being blocked or ignored all together. This is the reason why if you ask for their Line ID, they reply with a question of their own if you are actually in their country.

Perfect feedback for anyone wanting to become a puppet for these girls. How could you waste their time when it's the only thing they have in abundance?

A better advice would actually be to not waste your time trying to catch up with one these sh*tty girls as most of them still think their shit smells better than yours.

[Goatscrot]

Nope. If a big group of non-westerner tourists shows up, I will leave the place and go elsewhere. I've never seen a group of Indians, Arabs, Africans, or even Asians who were hilarious to be around in those bars. Just the opposite. There are obviously different senses of humor and views of what a fun night out includes in different cultures.

Agreed. They have a very different idea of a good time. Hence why thermae is no fun now. Used to be a big party every night.

[Kickoffs]

Nope. If a big group of non-westerner tourists shows up, I will leave the place and go elsewhere. I've never seen a group of Indians, Arabs, Africans, or even Asians who were hilarious to be around in those bars. Just the opposite. There are obviously different senses of humor and views of what a fun night out includes in different cultures.

Language barriers can certainly contribute!

[Kickoffs]

I would say if some of the 5 best looking women in Thermae were quoting or willing to come down to 1500 baht for a ST, then whatever attitude you brought into the place was working for you. Don't change it.

I agree with your opinion that negotiating only the price without clearly connecting it to your expectations for that price is asking for problems in the room. Unless you're willing to rely on random dumb luck.

So may I ask what your discussed expectations were for the best lookers in Thermae who agreed to a 1500 baht ST with you?

BTW, looking forward to more reports from you on this or subsequent trips. And thanks for this one!

Thanks. Of the 5, one was 1500 and another was 1800 baht. This wasn't the initial quote and had to be negotiated down. 3000 was the top but fell to 2500. This just seemed like random variance as my approach was the same to all as I'm sure you and many others have experienced, so I don't feel I'm doing anything special here.

Asked for everything from BBFS and BBBJ to CIM and DATY. Personally do not DATY when P4 P. Asked about BBFS to see how open minded she is and also check for any mouth sores if she says yes. Sometimes if there's desperation from her for $ after agreeing to BBFS, it's time to pass and move to the next. A crappy vetting process and not against BB as did do BBFS a few times during the trip. But these Thermae TGs were CFS & BBBJ and a couple said CBJ which is a hard pass. This is generally the process that works for me when setting expectations in the room though would be open to a better approach.

Of course, you start with introducing yourself, asking for her name, if she lives in BKK, if she has work the next day, and how much. She will only ask 3 questions: where are you from, where is your hotel, and how long are you staying? Hahaha.

What is your method?

[Smoothy]

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but not hilarious if they are not Western?

Nope. If a big group of non-westerner tourists shows up, I will leave the place and go elsewhere. I've never seen a group of Indians, Arabs, Africans, or even Asians who were hilarious to be around in those bars. Just the opposite. There are obviously different senses of humor and views of what a fun night out includes in different cultures.

[Kickoffs]

Can't say we ever had a comment like this. Who gives a rats ass if tourists in Cowboy want to sit outside in the heat? Otherwise they probably go into Suzie Wong to see the darts shooting shows and any other ugly shows.

Apart from trying to watch English Premier league, on TV screens outside gogo bars, and meeting up with someone for a chat, sitting outside is pretty useless. There must be better locations for these purposes, and plenty to choose from. I have sat outside pretty much only when waiting for a girl to show up, intending to BF her immediately, without seeing the ugly shows inside.

A big bunch of guys can be hard for full bars to accommodate, and can become nuisance value if they are jumping around partying too much. You might be better off with much smaller groups of 2 to 4 guys max.

The observation was from punters actually trying to find a seat, but a tourist, maybe from the US or Europe, resting her feet there. I would only see this a couple times. It actually looked like patrons of the bar were stepping outside for a smoke looking for a seat or bringing their drinks outside to speak and take a break. What was stated was simply more of a universal approach in terms of the establishment and its customers rather than an individual's perspective, such as your own, of which there are many. Of course there are other places to have a chat and watch TV, but let's not shift the goal posts here. We're talking about paying customers there for their own reason. Whether you feel the shows inside these places are ugly or not isn't salient to what was said. A paid customer was looking for a seat taken up by a non-paying customer. That's not a good look any way you put it.

A big bunch of guys who spend can be great for full bars. Agree that a big bunch of guys can be nuisance if jump around partying too much. This was a rather random and one sided statement that needed to be corrected.

[Kickoffs]

Posted on the forum before so it would only be repetitive information. If you rtff you would know.

Well it must not be that important. I'll pass. But thanks for the feedback.

[Goatscrot]

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but not hilarious if they are not Western?

I don't like if they are too inebriated and getting into my space too much, or blocking view of the girls.

I would rather party with a bunch of girls, and have done in the far past. Of course you have to be able to understand their conversation moderately. Once went to a Tulip girl's birthday party with mostly girls (from Tulip), and once went to a Soapy MP (Emanuelle) staff New Year party. They were great fun. Also a Thermae Soapy MP New year party back in 1991. Thermae Soapy was above the old Thermae Caf near soi 13.

With guys, I much prefer a small group, just 2 or 3. Have met larger groups in Big Dogs etc. , but wasn't that much fun. If all guys know all the others very well, maybe can work better.

Inevitably the taste of the guys will vary so much in venue, music, and girls. Have had the case when meetings other couples, where one pair had a floundering relationship, about to terminate, and I would have been happy to take the girl off his hands, ha ha, but had to be on best behaviour. That is not good. Being keen on some guy's ex GF, is also a common thing, since probably were at least moderately keen on her before she was an ex.

I've never had the slightest inclination to be in a group of Thai women unless there is some filthy sex going on. Really, what on earth would you find to talk about? I find very little and I speak decent Thai. Can't talk politics, world affairs, art, film, or music and they will have very different ideas about what's funny.

[Goatscrot]

I think it's hilarious when a bunch of western guys are partying in a group at Soi Cowboy. Some of the best nights I have had there have been when I happened to be in the bar with big groups partying like that. Good fun.

Agreed. When I was into the GoGo scene ages ago it was always about partying and having a good time as much as it was about the gals.

[EihTooms]

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Thermae.
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Talked with 5 women, seemed like the 5 best looking of that night, with prices ranging from 1500 to 3000 baht.
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I would say if some of the 5 best looking women in Thermae were quoting or willing to come down to 1500 baht for a ST, then whatever attitude you brought into the place was working for you. Don't change it.

I agree with your opinion that negotiating only the price without clearly connecting it to your expectations for that price is asking for problems in the room. Unless you're willing to rely on random dumb luck.

So may I ask what your discussed expectations were for the best lookers in Thermae who agreed to a 1500 baht ST with you?

BTW, looking forward to more reports from you on this or subsequent trips. And thanks for this one!

[Syzygies]

I think it's hilarious when a bunch of western guys are partying in a group at Soi Cowboy. Some of the best nights I have had there have been when I happened to be in the bar with big groups partying like that. Good fun.

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but not hilarious if they are not Western?

I don't like if they are too inebriated and getting into my space too much, or blocking view of the girls.

I would rather party with a bunch of girls, and have done in the far past. Of course you have to be able to understand their conversation moderately. Once went to a Tulip girl's birthday party with mostly girls (from Tulip), and once went to a Soapy MP (Emanuelle) staff New Year party. They were great fun. Also a Thermae Soapy MP New year party back in 1991. Thermae Soapy was above the old Thermae Café near soi 13.

With guys, I much prefer a small group, just 2 or 3. Have met larger groups in Big Dogs etc. , but wasn't that much fun. If all guys know all the others very well, maybe can work better.

Inevitably the taste of the guys will vary so much in venue, music, and girls. Have had the case when meetings other couples, where one pair had a floundering relationship, about to terminate, and I would have been happy to take the girl off his hands, ha ha, but had to be on best behaviour. That is not good. Being keen on some guy's ex GF, is also a common thing, since probably were at least moderately keen on her before she was an ex.

[Smoothy]

A big bunch of guys can be hard for full bars to accommodate, and can become nuisance value if they are jumping around partying too much.

I think it's hilarious when a bunch of western guys are partying in a group at Soi Cowboy. Some of the best nights I have had there have been when I happened to be in the bar with big groups partying like that. Good fun.

[Syzygies]

That could well be why I don't do it. This short video from the movie Chasing Amy explains how I see it. You were lucky to find one who actually gave some direction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD26xyWewcE

An annoying habit of many shy women is you get no feedback about when DATY is good or not. You have to interpret her squirms and body movements as best you can. Then there are annoying women who say only "why did you change just when I was getting close?" In other words, get negative feedback only.

The feedback desired should be positive, a girl should be willing to say when it is really good, or "that's the spot, don't change". If we don't get told when we do it right, we will likely try something else. My Mrs gives her feedback only with hands on my head. Push head away if she got to sensitive or pull head in when she needs more power, instead of delicate touch. Move my head down or up if necessary etc. Sort of works out. She does not like to announce a cum at the time, but will later say she already cum. Sometimes I will know already and sometimes can't be sure if got there or nearly. Finger in pussy while DATYing, helps to be sure because can feel the convulsions more clearly.

Girls are generally too shy to give the best feedback. Lying dead still appears to indicate a girl is not into it, but some claim otherwise. My Mrs is writhing around, never still, which makes it slightly harder to do well, when target is always moving. Girls with big clits are much easier to do than tiny clit girls where you could lose it or be searching for it.

I don't know about you guys, but when getting a BBBJ, I give the girl plenty of feedback including when she is doing it just heavenly beautifully. Strangely my most common comments are:
1. don't yank on the skin with your hand or rub against the skin, it hurts
2. go slower, no slower, no slower than that. They mostly are not capable of slow motion BBBJ which is what I want.
3. softer please (implies no teeth)
4. touch my balls, tickle them no fingernails please, just brush them lightly.
5. Yes fantastic don't stop, don't change.

All these instructions can be in Thai, yet very few girls seem to be able to follow very easy instructions, incapable of tickling without using fingernails, incapable of going slow motion, they just want to do what they are used to which is average to bad. I can train up girls if they are trainable to my way. They may have to do jackhammer head job with some other guy but that will kill me.

Gets frustrating when girls keep changing too. Suck on dick for 3 seconds then take it out and start licking the shaft, then do something else.

I wonder if really good DATY is same or even rarer than great sloppy BBBJ. Probably rarer, because guys ought to be much more willing to give directions. Girl feedback is generally so poor.