Medellin Reports

[The Tall Man]

Hi,

Just beginning my hopeful long mongering career. Where exactly is this are located? I would really like to get a young 18-25 girl for GFE fun during my time at Medellin, and if isn't too much trouble what is the best approach with girls I this Area?

Welcome to the board!

Have you been to Colombia before? Medellin? The "calf" area is really digging deep into the street scene and is not for the faint of heart nor a Medellin newbie as it requires time and effort and either a car or a Colombian friend with a car. You need patience but when you score you can find literally the diamond in the rough as I did a few nights ago with an 18 yo (yes I verified which you must do in this area) who provided me with an experience as if I was in my teenage years again, very surreal experience.

If your in Medellin for a week or two it is simply not worth the efforts as you will be pressed for time. This area requires time and effort and patience to develop a favorable outcome. I spend a hour or two and troll this area in my car, when I see something I like I will talk to the girl, then get her whatapp and start a dialogue with her in a day or two. Then the next time I see her in the calf area she knows me and I take it from there. Just my MO that has worked for me.

The "calf" area has been know for decades and decades by local Colombian men, it got it's name "calf" as young calf's need to always be sucking to get it's milk (ie leche) so you can get the parallels. A picture speaks a thousand words so look at this photo below and you will understand why the "calf" area is the perfect description. This was explained to me by a much older Colombian guy friend who has been frequenting this area for literally the past 30 or 40 years.

It is located in a roughly a 5 block area and the center is about the intersection of Cr 48 and CL 40. In the daytime this area is filled with car mechanic shops and car dealerships but at night, after about 10 or 11 PM the street walkers show up, just be careful as there are many tranies and also many are puffing the glue BUT like I said with patience and effort this area can reap big rewards.

The Tall Man.

[FRobertson]

Come on man, the guy IamLookin is just a nice guy with a good heart.

He obviously treats girls right, and they respond well to him.

Yes, of course you can take the transactional approach like an accountant or attorney like you say.

I can't refute the logic that Mr E posts.

His method and attitude will work just fine.

However, regardless of what he or whoever says, treating girls right, showing some heart, and not just with money, but with kindness, pays off.

It's not difficult to tell which girls are the sharks looking for naive gringos to over pay, and which girls are sweet and humble just trying to get by..

No matter how nice someone is to a working girl, the fundamental relationship is unequal. As in, he can always get up and leave. And once again heart will not keep the girl and her children fed. Sharks will always get more money out of foreigners than nice girls. Simply because they know how to exploit our weaknesses and capitalize on them. But we don't want the mongering world to be full of only sharks, do we?

Suppose you arrive in a new city and see a lady selling nice home made pies around the corner. If you're nice enough to her and she starts giving you pies for free, is that a good thing? In the short run, sure. In the long run, it's a limited resource that she could have sold but instead gave away. Saving a few dollars won't make a meaningful impact on your financial position, but making sure she has those few extra dollars just might make a difference for her in some way.

[Kosher Kowboy]

The saying "no des papaya" relates to crime and everything else, like negotiating, etc.

Don't be a fool.

In general, the traveling WG, to Panama, CR, Europe, etc is much harder line than the local girls in their native land.

There are the hard core girls at home too, however, the sweeter, more humble ones, you'll find at their native land.

I would agree especially with your last line. Often the travel expenses from lodging to paying for the VISAS not to mention the pimps most seem to have to cover an overhead higher than home and I am sure as you say some are hard core still. I remember one girl from Bogota (so she said) after a session at the Hyatt Place (prior to chica fees) asked for taxi money and I told her ' no' but that I would see her again and she told me not needed to walk her downstairs but I always did as the hotel manager always told me they like the girl to be accompanied in and out. She (as I expected) was not picked up by a taxi rather some guy barely taller than the steering wheel (maybe sitting on phone books) in some shit car who gave her a big kiss. Same game, different place slight variances but I look forward to a break from these Romanians who are managed very heavily and overly aggressive (unless they know you.) Hope he ate her out as I left him some DNA codes as a gift.

As you say the natives are kinder, same with the actual German girls but they make up maybe only 5 percent of the LUs.

[Balboa]

. Seems it relates more to crime / theft than with the girls and I ' worry' more in theory of the crime than negotiations with the girls. Half the Colombian girls in PTY I was told by the MDE guy I was with also work this Hotel M and some clubs and he said they drive a much tougher line in PTY than at home

.

The saying "no des papaya" relates to crime and everything else, like negotiating, etc.

Don't be a fool.

In general, the traveling WG, to Panama, CR, Europe, etc is much harder line than the local girls in their native land.

There are the hard core girls at home too, however, the sweeter, more humble ones, you'll find at their native land.

[Surfer500]

It's a saying in Colombia, LOL.
I found this explanation below:

"Dar papaya".

This phrase is extremely common in Colombia. I am not sure how this phrase first began, and it has always seemed a bit strange to me. Literally, "dar papaya" means "to give papaya. " However, when you hear someone say, "no des papaya," they are not telling you to "not give someone papaya. " They are actually telling you to be carefulto not set yourself up or make yourself an easy target. Most often, you will hear this when people want to warn you about theft. For instance, leaving money out on your desk at work while you go to the WC. Would be "dando papaya. " Or, if you are going to the downtown areas of Colombia, using your brand new iPhone while in the street markets would be "dando papaya. " In both cases, you are setting yourself up for something to be taken from youyou are making yourself an obvious target

" Don't get caught with your pants down".

[Surfer500]

First time poster, thank you all for the tips.

Seasoned monger here. Costa Rica x2, Panama, DR x2, Tijuana all my life.

Finally booked a Medelland trip. Over Thanksgiving. 10 nights.

Question. How is Medelln during this time?

I'm thinking 5 nights in Laureles and 5 in El Poblado. Any objections to that?.

If you have been going to Tijuana all your life, have stayed overnight in Cahuilla, like say at Leyva Hotel, and like street girls, and speak Spanish, then you might want to consider staying in El Centro.

[Kosher Kowboy]

It's a saying in Colombia, LOL.
I found this explanation below:

"Dar papaya".

This phrase is extremely common in Colombia. I am not sure how this phrase first began, and it has always seemed a bit strange to me. Literally, "dar papaya" means "to give papaya. " However, when you hear someone say, "no des papaya," they are not telling you to "not give someone papaya. " They are actually telling you to be carefulto not set yourself up or make yourself an easy target. Most often, you will hear this when people want to warn you about theft. For instance, leaving money out on your desk at work while you go to the WC. Would be "dando papaya. " Or, if you are going to the downtown areas of Colombia, using your brand new iPhone while in the street markets would be "dando papaya. " In both cases, you are setting yourself up for something to be taken from youyou are making yourself an obvious target

Learn something new everyday, thanks for the explanation. Seems it relates more to crime / theft than with the girls and I ' worry' more in theory of the crime than negotiations with the girls. Half the Colombian girls in PTY I was told by the MDE guy I was with also work this Hotel M and some clubs and he said they drive a much tougher line in PTY than at home which is another reason I am interested in checking them out; they were beautiful girls. It seemed however to get them down in price and up in service levels I had to play them off the girls from Venezuela, Cuba and Panama and if that didn't work usually 1/2 a bottle of tequilla did. The Colombian girls hated those other girls and seemed to look down on them and were not happy they worked for less.

Good to know. Thanks for clarifying.

[Balboa]

Mr E has a poin. You just don't know why. I don't have his answer but what I know is this. If you are in a divorce in front of the judge dividing asset. The judge only looks at numbers, he will not care how you treat each other at all because that is not written in law. If you deal with accountant or attorneys often, you will tend to agree with Mr E from that perspective.

Come on man, the guy IamLookin is just a nice guy with a good heart.

He obviously treats girls right, and they respond well to him.

Yes, of course you can take the transactional approach like an accountant or attorney like you say.

I can't refute the logic that Mr E posts.

His method and attitude will work just fine.

However, regardless of what he or whoever says, treating girls right, showing some heart, and not just with money, but with kindness, pays off.

It's not difficult to tell which girls are the sharks looking for naive gringos to over pay, and which girls are sweet and humble just trying to get by.

Again, the transactional approach works.

You'll get some booty.

Not my style.

I'm more in line with how IamLookin rolls.

I've been at this a long time.

Over 20 years in Colombia and Brazil.

The approach with heart, and brains as well, you don't want to be an idiot, works great for me and has paid off incredibly.

Guys can go at it whichever way they please obviously, I'm just more in line with the sweeter approach, LOL.

[Balboa]

Welcome to the ISG and the guys here can welcome you and give you much better tips than I. I rarely give papayas to any one either just like to buy them sliced up from the locals help them out a little rather cheap to buy and refreshing but I think you might have meant propinas.

KK.

It's a saying in Colombia, LOL.
I found this explanation below:

"Dar papaya".

This phrase is extremely common in Colombia. I am not sure how this phrase first began, and it has always seemed a bit strange to me. Literally, "dar papaya" means "to give papaya. " However, when you hear someone say, "no des papaya," they are not telling you to "not give someone papaya. " They are actually telling you to be carefulto not set yourself up or make yourself an easy target. Most often, you will hear this when people want to warn you about theft. For instance, leaving money out on your desk at work while you go to the WC. Would be "dando papaya. " Or, if you are going to the downtown areas of Colombia, using your brand new iPhone while in the street markets would be "dando papaya. " In both cases, you are setting yourself up for something to be taken from youyou are making yourself an obvious target

[Kosher Kowboy]

First time poster, thank you all for the tips.

Seasoned monger here. Costa Rica x2, Panama, DR x2, Tijuana all my life.

Finally booked a Medelland trip. Over Thanksgiving. 10 nights.

Question. How is Medelln during this time?

I'm thinking 5 nights in Laureles and 5 in El Poblado. Any objections to that?

I speak decent Spanish, enough to get by. And I don't dar papaya to anyone.

Appreciate your insight.

Welcome to the ISG and the guys here can welcome you and give you much better tips than I. I rarely give papayas to any one either just like to buy them sliced up from the locals help them out a little rather cheap to buy and refreshing but I think you might have meant propinas. I never did Tijuana much rather hundreds of trips to the MX border towns on the TX border but ours went to shit, lots of CR, plenty in the Spanish brothels more so in BCN and tons of Colombian girls in the Dutch Antilles ( Mainly SXM) and recently a few trips a year to PTY but kicking myself for those considering a little longer journey I could have gone right to the source but the language school I was working with was there but I see one very good one near this El Poblano area and my teacher here (from Medellin) knows the staff.

I am starting out with a short trip for 5 days as my goal is to return if I like it and I currently for the last three years have been going to Germany monthly for 5-12 days but than have three weeks of nothing here so MDE I am hoping will be a good cheap (er) way to fill in the gaps. FWIW I have been comparing the FB profiles of many of the girls down there to the FKK girls and I think the ones down there have an edge in looks as they seem to rely more on natural beauty where the Romanian ones (80- 90 percent the work force in GER) seem to rely much more on the snapshat and other programs filters. I think after all my travels it is safe to say no matter what our ' resumes' are they can help us but any new place will involve a learning curve, a few mistakes and to just keep it simple. The guys here can probably best coach you on your proposed itinerary.

I plan to keep my maiden voyage 'simple' and do 5 days. I will go Monday to Friday as I am told weekends can be hit or miss as the girls are with their boyfriends / loverboys / pimps sometimes all one in the same. I plan to stay at the advise of some in this forum from posts as well as guys who know my exact style, type of girls, desire, service levels, spending habits etc who know me personally or from my posts on the GER forums to stay at this Hotel M ( if still open) for my first trip. I think (am told) you will find it similar yet different to the setup at SL in SJ / CR if you ever stayed there. I am also told to complement it with this club FASO (sp?) as they tell me that the LU at Faso is equal to the top 20-50 percentile in the FKK Clubs and that there is another club in MDE (more money) that matches up to the top 20 percentile in FKK clubs in Hessen.

I wish you a good time on your trip. I had a bunch of WhatsApps from girls down there in my phone I accumulated from PTY but each and everyone of them asked me for money so just like on the other side of the ocean my refusal to send money was met with being blocked

Some things don't change! And your Spanish should help a tad at least it has with me in my travels, no sitting there passing the phones back and forth and can only speak from my own experiences the girls seem to appreciate being able to speak in their native tongue more and have a better time if with a guy they can talk to easier (just my opinion, I could be wrong).

Buen viaje!

And to the guy who posted about GER beating out MDE I can not say it will beat it out as we are all different but it can offer a unique experience you may not find anywhere else in the world and many more options than just the FKK Clubs to have fun. PM me if you want. Worth one trip to get it in the books.

And Happy Memorial Day to any vets down there.

KK.

[Mr Enternational]

So if I am reading what you wrote correctly, if a girl were to contact me and say she wanted to hang out with me and if I tell her I just want to relax and was not interested in sex, but she still says she would like to come over anyway I should say no? I should tell her "no" and tell her that the next time she sees me she has to reduce her price by 50 K.

My mistake. I must have read it wrong. I read it as you would pay chicks 200K for a session. These chicks are really poor and desperate and have no choice but to make a living selling sex, which they rather not do. Other punters should not ask chicks to accept less that what they had previously given them because that is a punishment for these chicks who have no future. Sometimes you would get freebies from these chicks that you customarily pay 200K to. Now in this post you are just hanging out and no freebies or reduced rate is involved. I do not remember anyone in any post mentioning or alluding to treating anyone bad or even worse, like horse manure.

Who said the chick had to reduce her price? She is free to decline as the OP said that 2 chicks did in the first place. What if he had contacted the chick to pay her the 150K same as before and the chick had said no. Now I must get paid 200K. Would you jump down her throat about trying to charge more than he was giving her before? Or is this a case of all fault falls on the rich foreign monger?

[BayMonger]

First time poster, thank you all for the tips.

Seasoned monger here. Costa Rica x2, Panama, DR x2, Tijuana all my life.

Finally booked a Medellíand trip. Over Thanksgiving. 10 nights.

Question. How is Medellín during this time?

I'm thinking 5 nights in Laureles and 5 in El Poblado. Any objections to that?

I speak decent Spanish, enough to get by. And I don't dar papaya to anyone.

Appreciate your insight.

[Nounce]

So if I am reading what you wrote correctly, if a girl were to contact me and say she wanted to hang out with me and if I tell her I just want to relax and was not interested in sex, but she still says she would like to come over anyway I should say no? I should tell her "no" and tell her that the next time she sees me she has to reduce her price by 50 K. Or maybe crawl around on the floor and beg? Why, Because I am sooo much better then she is. Truth is I do wind up giving her some money anyway, The point is I don't treat her like horse manure. Maybe, I should say no and tell her to come clean my apartment for 15 dollars. What a nice guy you are.

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Mr E has a poin. You just don't know why. I don't have his answer but what I know is this. If you are in a divorce in front of the judge dividing asset. The judge only looks at numbers, he will not care how you treat each other at all because that is not written in law. If you deal with accountant or attorneys often, you will tend to agree with Mr E from that perspective.

[IamLookin]

So if I am reading what you wrote correctly, if a girl were to contact me and say she wanted to hang out with me and if I tell her I just want to relax and was not interested in sex, but she still says she would like to come over anyway I should say no? I should tell her "no" and tell her that the next time she sees me she has to reduce her price by 50 K. Or maybe crawl around on the floor and beg? Why, Because I am sooo much better then she is. Truth is I do wind up giving her some money anyway, The point is I don't treat her like horse manure. Maybe, I should say no and tell her to come clean my apartment for 15 dollars. What a nice guy you are.

Insecure about what? I want things the cheapest for everyone. It does not bother me in the least bit because I seldom fuck with hookers. There are so many chicks that are not hookers to deal with that I don't find them a necessity, but a one-off for quick fun. And when I do deal with them I know how to negotiate my own price, so what the next man is paying would rarely affect me.

I just can't understand why he is jumping on the other poster for trying to negotiate. Pussy does a strange thing to some guys. They will get on expedia and look for a bargain on a ticket to get somewhere, get on hotelsdotcom to look for a good deal on a hotel, but don't you dare mention to them trying to get a discount on some pussy.

Come on man. This is not true at all. I hardly ever repeat with a chick and really never report a bad session. How many posters have you seen say I fucked this chick the first couple of times and she was mediocre. But the fourth time I took her she blew my socks off because I was a consistent customer. FAKE NEWS.

If I DID repeat with chick then it was because she impressed me on the first encounter when she seen me as that one-off jack off tourist. How could she even hope to make you a consistent customer by giving shitty service on the initial meet?

Actually you can not get more hypocritical than that. If you have really gotten to know someone and their situation is as bad as he has made it out to be, then how could you dare accept a freebie from someone you call a "friend" and you know them to be in such dire need? A stranger would not care if she was eaten by a tiger on the way home. He is just there to get his rocks off. But if you have developed a relationship with someone and you know this is how they are making a living, then you would have to be a low down character to accept free services from them at a time when they could be with someone else who they could actually get money from.

I live in Thailand and my "friends" that I know may need some extra cash, I find shit for them to do to make more cash, like offering them to come clean my place for me for $15. (The minimum wage there is $10 per day and it only takes about 2 hours to clean my place how I like it.) I don't just sit around watching movies and drinking with them and accepting freebies when I know they are on the verge of starving.

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[Nounce]

Interesting that you would say Thailand has exotic women, I went there and the selection wasn't superb at all, oh well maybe I went at the wrong time of the year.

Although I don't know his definition but women in Thailand don't all look the same. It is not difficult to find a woman with very distinct facial feature that can be considered exotic looking and beautiful.

Thailand also has more variety of services like sexual massage, soapy and they are cleaner and their service level are much better than anything I have seen in South America. You can also just walk around after midnight near Nana and Cowboy and there are full of people. There are also several international chain hotels right in the middle of it, and you can just walk out of hotel door, pick a puta on a street or Thermae, walk back to your hotel all within 30 minutes.