Kyiv

[TinyHippo]

I think you can handle the average child support award in Ukraine. According to an article, "From 1 July 2018 the sustenance level had been raised from 1,700 hryvnya (USD $65) to 1,777 hryvnya ($67) on July 1, 2018. " https://blogs.elenasmodels.com/en/ch...rt-in-ukraine/ The hard part will be to avoid paternity fraud. Every effort will be made to have the rich foreigner stuck with the monthly child support bill, so when he leaves, she and her local Ukrainian boyfriend and their baby will be living off of you. I understand that fake paternity DNA tests are available online for a small price..

Isn't that for Ukrainian men? Most of us are foreigners. Not a lawyer, but if I got a girl pregnant the child would become an EU citizen. Then she can sue me for child support in my country which is anywhere from 10-20% of my salary.

[Travv]

I think you can handle the average child support award in Ukraine. According to an article, "From 1 July 2018 the sustenance level had been raised from 1,700 hryvnya (USD $65) to 1,777 hryvnya ($67) on July 1, 2018. " https://blogs.elenasmodels.com/en/ch...rt-in-ukraine/ The hard part will be to avoid paternity fraud. Every effort will be made to have the rich foreigner stuck with the monthly child support bill, so when he leaves, she and her local Ukrainian boyfriend and their baby will be living off of you. I understand that fake paternity DNA tests are available online for a small price. . .

Thanks for having some common sense on this board!

Most countries have parental reciprocation laws with Ukraine. That means you will have to pay child support for 18 wonderful years if the baby is yours. I am not sure about China, but in the EU or in the USA you can go to jail for not paying child support even if it is in a foreign country.

[PhotoSlider]

Just when I thought you were developing little wisdom!...

...That is what happens when you start flashing too much money in front of women.

And as Stevie said, negotiate in UAH, not in USD / EUR.

Last night: two gorgeous young ladies started at $100 an hour each. Ended up being 2 hours for 2250 UAH each, 4500 UAH total + 100 UAH taxi. Finally more than 3 hours and great sex. Kiev rocks!

[PhotoSlider]

Dear fellow mongers. Do not do threesomes without explicitly discussing with girls what is it that you want from them.

As usual one of my ladies stormed out ashamed of what I tried to get her into, while the other one greatly enjoyed the process and delivered much more than I anticipated.

Just like with anything else, do not assume. And even better. Get the girls that know each other sexually real well.

In the end, they left me a happy man.

[TinyHippo]

Just when I thought you were developing little wisdom!

Yes, that is the most fertile time. Half way into her ovulation cycle. They teach this in grade 8!

How can you possibly know your girl is clean? You know that she is having unprotected sex with sex tourists.

Your only hope is if the kid is not yours, so make sure you, not her, carry out a parentage test.

That is what happens when you start flashing too much money in front of women.

Thanks for having some common sense on this board!

Most countries have parental reciprocation laws with Ukraine. That means you will have to pay child support for 18 wonderful years if the baby is yours. I am not sure about China, but in the EU or in the USA you can go to jail for not paying child support even if it is in a foreign country.

[AntonySun1996]

Just when I thought you were developing little wisdom!

Yes, that is the most fertile time. Half way into her ovulation cycle. They teach this in grade 8!

How can you possibly know your girl is clean? You know that she is having unprotected sex with sex tourists.

Your only hope is if the kid is not yours, so make sure you, not her, carry out a parentage test.

That is what happens when you start flashing too much money in front of women.

But according to the articles I read on the internet, eggs die within 20 hours after ovulation, while semens can survive within the woman's body for 5-7 days, so the most fertile time is the 5-7 day period before the eggs die.

[AntonySun1996]

Chances reduce hugely after 2 weeks, but in my case, I have got the girl pregnant in just one go after this 2-week time. It depends on the health of the girl and boy.

haha something is telling me....are you checking if it is his or someone else's? ...The most common confusion in guys.

She's not pregnant yet, I'm just wondering what would happen if she is.

[DramaFree11]

Just when I thought you were developing little wisdom!

Yes, that is the most fertile time. Half way into her ovulation cycle. They teach this in grade 8!

How can you possibly know your girl is clean? You know that she is having unprotected sex with sex tourists.

Your only hope is if the kid is not yours, so make sure you, not her, carry out a parentage test.

That is what happens when you start flashing too much money in front of women.

Read my mind. I have been chased by lawyers, they can make your life a living Hell. Just when you think they are gone they will reappear, especially if they are on commission.

[Gargano19]

Chances reduce hugely after 2 weeks, but in my case, I have got the girl pregnant in just one go after this 2-week time. It depends on the health of the girl and boy.

haha something is telling me....are you checking if it is his or someone else's? ...The most common confusion in guys.

That is the problem with Unprotected sex, she can just try to put the baby on you.

[Visal]

But is it possible for the girl to get pregnant if sex occurred after 2 weeks after her period? I've heard that eggs die within 20 hours or so after ovulation, but don't know if pregnancy would still be possible after that. I am quite ignorant in this field.

I don't worry about STDs or HIV, as I am sure that my girl is clean. I don't practice unprotected sex until I get to know the girl quite well.

Chances reduce hugely after 2 weeks, but in my case, I have got the girl pregnant in just one go after this 2-week time. It depends on the health of the girl and boy.

haha something is telling me....are you checking if it is his or someone else's? ...The most common confusion in guys.

[Stevie69]

Just when I thought you were developing little wisdom!

Yes, that is the most fertile time. Half way into her ovulation cycle. They teach this in grade 8!

How can you possibly know your girl is clean? You know that she is having unprotected sex with sex tourists.

Your only hope is if the kid is not yours, so make sure you, not her, carry out a parentage test.

That is what happens when you start flashing too much money in front of women.

But is it possible for the girl to get pregnant if sex occurred after 2 weeks after her period? I've heard that eggs die within 20 hours or so after ovulation, but don't know if pregnancy would still be possible after that. I am quite ignorant in this field.

I don't worry about STDs or HIV, as I am sure that my girl is clean. I don't practice unprotected sex until I get to know the girl quite well.

[PaoloKnoks]

Bonus pics.

Hi,

I am in Kiev for two weeks, I like very much this big breast girl, have you contact number of her? Some more sexy photos or just this?

Thanks in advance.

[Arkiloko]

Speaking like a wise man, Antony.

Kiev can traumatize male psyche. Happened to me more than once, but in a different way. I wasn't scammed or dumped. It's those cases when I find a diamond in the rough, and then leave for the airport, and for a week or two can not find peace with my own self.

Therefore it is paramount to set one's priorities while visiting. I come to meet new girls and enjoy their company to full extent. Not to marry. I do establish long term relationships lasting for years, but I am realistic. Girls meet me for entertainment and financial support.

Rejecting Kiev IMO means depriving oneself of true pleasures in one of the best mongering destinations. To me it is the best, but my case is not typical for this Forum. Maybe I represent 5-10% of the visitors, not necessarily top.

I agree entirely.

[AntonySun1996]

Everything is possible if you have the money. Corruption is normal here. I do not know about legal obligations towards child etc though.

Only one shot can get her pregnant if she has had the periods in the past 2 weeks. Unprotected sex is very dangerous. If you get the 4 common STDs, doctors would put an ear bud in your penis to get a swab for lab testing. HIV is not that serious by the numbers but it can also happen.

But is it possible for the girl to get pregnant if sex occurred after 2 weeks after her period? I've heard that eggs die within 20 hours or so after ovulation, but don't know if pregnancy would still be possible after that. I am quite ignorant in this field.

I don't worry about STDs or HIV, as I am sure that my girl is clean. I don't practice unprotected sex until I get to know the girl quite well.

[Stevie69]

Any law would probably be nearly impossible to enforce. If you are worth millions and she knows it, or if you are a politician with a reputation to protect, she might find a lawyer to work on her behalf for a percentage of the settlement. Otherwise, no chance. A good idea is never to give them your real name.

The chance of fertilization per successful copulation is less than 5%. This is randomly, any time of the month, with any woman aged 18 to 30. Of course, it varies depending on the girl's age, her ovulation stage, flowback, orgasm, etc. It can go up to 25% Also, on YOUR sperm quality and quantity. What does 5% mean? It means that there is a 95% of not getting pregnant, or 19 in 20 times. So, you can figure out the 50% chance; it is just 0. 95 to the power of X such that it equals 0.50 (0. 95 ** X = 0. 50). "X" its the number of times you would have to do it to have a 50% chance.

It varies depending on the girl's age, her ovulation stage, flowback, orgasm, etc. Also important is whether the girl wants to get pregnant; if so, she can drastically change to odds. For instance, she can just bite the condom while giving you head, just before you penetrate her, see you when she is most fertile, see you several times when she is most fertile, take the condom out of the garbage and inseminate herself, keep her legs up for 5 minutes after ejaculation, etc.

Anyone here familiar with Ukrainian laws? If your girlfriend / sugar baby gets pregnant from you, do you have any legal obligation to pay for child support and / or marry her? If so, how much do you have to pay approximately? It seems abortion is legal in Ukraine, but is it a common practice here? How many girls would actually choose to abort? (In my country it is crazily common. The government even used to encourage abortion until recent years.) It seems there are many single mothers in Ukraine, though.

Also, on average how many creampies does it usually take for the girl to get pregnant? For those who often practice unprotected sex with your girls, how do you think about the risks of pregnancy?

Asking it for a friend of mine.