Bangkok Reports

[Syzygies]

Either that offer was in no way as "idiot-proof" as I thought it would be on a slow Monday night during Low Season or I had simply encountered two idiots on lower Sukhumvit who could not see any reason on Earth to accept it.

I don't see why you use the term idiot-proof at all. Some girls can like the deal and some not. I suspect the whole thing was doomed from the moment the mamasans arrived. Normally I hand bar fines to girls with no direct mamasan involvement. I am now thinking that I should make a rule for myself, that once a mamasan arrives and starts putting her thoughts in, the deal should be off, and I should warn girls I am allergic to mamasans too.

I recall my last disaster at RB2, occurred after a mamasan approached and wanted me to pay upfront, which I refused, but I should have cancelled the girl as well. In the end wasted the 1 K barfine, wasted my time taking her back to my apartment, and wasted some small money on what she wanted to eat at Maccas or was it KFC, I can't remember since I ordered nothing. I don't eat that shit. Anyway she got no money since she refused to fuck being the black pad stain end of her period. I just wanted her to rinse up and fuck as normal (with condom).

My other thought is that all girls at Butterflies maybe programmed to believe that they are worth 3 K, even if clearly different girls are worth different amounts in my eyes.

Maybe the girl does not trust you that you will do only DATY for 2 k. Admittedly it seems like easy money, if is true. The girl never heard of a customer pulling this DATY only "scam" before. Ha ha. Just teasing and trying to imagine what she is thinking. I believe that you would pay more if you got what you wanted, as would I.

I agree with you that the standard of girls at Butterflies is sometimes exaggerated, they are not really as good as Billboard girls overall, maybe the odd nice one. I consider Butterflies to be somewhat the Billboard 2nd tier girls, bearing in mind that Billboard also has few stunners for the face (mostly good bodies).

I did meet one Butterflies girl that I know was a good fuck because I used to do her at Dollhouse, but her body had deteriorated to pudgy. May have even had a baby since I last did her.

I don't really know much about how many girls can be bargained down to a lower price. It is extremely unlikely I am ever taking a lower standard girl, that is not in the top tier, and therefore are always the top price, likely, if specified before BFing. I still get plenty of girls though that do not negotiate a price with me at all. So I can pay what I determine to be fair which is never stingy. Of course I don't know exactly what I am getting but success rate is far higher with girls after no negotiation. These girls that do not negotiate price, are always very keen, and perform well. Maybe they can tell I am "Jai Dee". One such bargirl was not that keen to do BBFS, however when she could see I was having trouble cumming and dick would start to flag, she eventually gave in to BBFS on the 3rd round of fucking I think (still with no price negotiation). Her pussy was just a bit on the tight side for me, so BB was working much better. I am willing to COB instead of CIP. Now I can expect BBFS with her any time I want and never a price negotiation. It is so much easier once have regulars. I do have my HIV test certificate but I don't really know if most girls are educated enough to be able to decipher it, being in English. "Non Reactive" may be a bit mysterious to them. Perhaps I should be requesting my certificate to be in Thai, since I can read it.

In the really old days, I don't recall doing much negotiating with girls if ever.

I probably should be telling a mamasan that I just don't need her since the girl and myself have no communication issues at all, other than overly loud music at some venues..

[Kickoffs]

I was cruising around Nana Plaza tonight and decided to pop in to Butterflies Go-Go Bar on the top floor. I got there early, almost exactly 9pm. Very few customers in the place. Very few customers walking around the Plaza or up or down Soi 4 at that hour.

1000 BF? Did it go up from 700?

Agreed that she may be a bit dense as it is slow season, but if she gets BFed every night, that may be the reason she's holding at 3 k. The less attractive of the 2 who initially sat with you might have done BBFS+CIM, DATY, or whatever, but the board will never know. Safe to say you stopped by other gogo bars at Nana, and it was disappointing?

[EihTooms]

I was cruising around Nana Plaza tonight and decided to pop in to Butterflies Go-Go Bar on the top floor. I got there early, almost exactly 9pm. Very few customers in the place. Very few customers walking around the Plaza or up or down Soi 4 at that hour.

I did not have a game plan, didn't want to follow a game plan this night really. If anything interesting came my way, I wanted to just "go with the flow and see what happens in the room" as much as possible while still being mindful not to simply agree to a top asking price (for this bar) without any expectations applied to it at all. But I have gotten bored with the usual patter leading up to a girl agreeing upfront to provide me with what I consider Real Sex (for money, of course). If necessary, I will happily hand a girl an offer only an idiot would refuse and, well, "go with the flow in the room and see what happens."

Believe it or not, this was one of those nights where I was willing to meet a new girl, take her to my room, engage ONLY in DATY if it turned out there was no way she would go for BBBJ+CIM or BBFS+CIP (the only two ways I am either capable of or willing to ejaculate these days) and I would be just fine with it. Maybe we exchange Line info and engage in Real Sex next time. Or not. No biggie either way. Yes, I have nights like that these days.

So I sit in Butterfiles for about a half hour mostly uninspired by the line up. Eventually, a thoroughly average girl in this bar, which is not exactly known for an abundance of stunners, suddenly appears before me with a less than average friend and they sit at my side, lobbying for an LD for both, of course. I apologize for not choosing the less than average one and go with the average one. Again, no game plan. She seemed squeezable enough.

She sat on my lap through two LDs (went through them quite slowly actually). Lite French Kissing off and on. She felt good in my hands. I would say mid-20's. Not fat and not skinny. Healthy. Nice lips and mouth with a sensuous tongue. The cuddling was nice. Much murmuring about how much she likes me. Her English was actually pretty good. Ok. I'd say there was enough chemistry to take her on a night like this one.

Near the end of the second LD, two mamasans show up at our side. Do I want to pay her barfine and take her? Maybe. They wouldn't leave. I playfully waved them off. One dykie looking mamasan wouldn't leave without making sure I understood ALL the girls charge 3,000 baht for ST after I pay the 1,000 baht barfine. Which is BS, of course. I've taken many girls from that bar right up until the past couple of weeks for an agreed upon 2,500 baht. I have every reason to believe some have gone fairly recently for the barfine + 2,000 baht. And for BBFS+CIP. Whatever. Finally the TWO mamasans moved on so I could close a deal or not with the girl herself.

I liked this thoroughly average girl well enough to make that "idiot-proof" offer if for no other reason but to put an end to the Butterflies Go-Go Bar experience for now; I tell her and put it in Google Translate (and reverse translate to be as sure as possible it is what I mean to tell her) that I will pay the barfine and pay HER 2,000 baht just to eat her pussy (DATY). And IF we do more than that, which will be totally up to her, I will PAY her more than that.

"No. 3,000 baht", she says. No counter offer of 2,500 baht (I am sure I would have agreed to that on this night and under these particular circumstances). No clarification asked to make sure the offer was what she heard and read on my cellphone with her own eyes. Nothing. "3,000 baht." She called over the dykie mamasan. Since I really didn't give a damn if any girl took me up on this offer, I told and showed the dykie mamasan what I was offering the girl just in case there was any doubt about her understanding of it. "No. ALL the girls require 3,000 baht for ST." For only eating their pussy with an agreement to pay MORE if we do more than that in the room? "Yes."

The dykie mamasan walked away and then I asked the still cuddling girl what we would do in the room for the 3,000 baht. Remember, I just did not want to go through any discussion about the minimum I require this night, didn't want to have the "condom" conversation tonight, didn't want to explain for the umpteenth time that I was not looking for a BBBJ that ends as a Hand Job instead of a Blowjob. I was not going to pay to jerk myself off on some part of her body and call that "great sex". I wanted her to at least say, "Anything" or "Everything" or "Up to you" or "Boom boom" or "Stare at the wall" or something, anything. But nope. Nothing. Apparently, she was actually demanding 3,000 baht ST for the DATY I said I wanted to do to her and NOTHING else. LOL.

So I thanked them both for their time, the girl and the dykie mamasan, paid my approximate 500 baht check bin, left 20 baht tip for the server, stood up and moved on.

Either that offer was in no way as "idiot-proof" as I thought it would be on a slow Monday night during Low Season or I had simply encountered two idiots on lower Sukhumvit who could not see any reason on Earth to accept it.

That is when I headed over to Thermae and, for the 3rd time in so many months, take one of the better looking girls on the left side as you walk in the front door, the supposedly "Japanese Only" or "Japanese Preferred" side of their line up around the room. More on that later.

[Uncle Volodya]

Found old school Bangkok tonight.

Nana Plaza has been uber lame each time I've stuck my head inside of the various places.

So I went to Patpong.


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Nice report. Good to hear some info about Patpong. I will be staying there the next time I am in BKK. Just for a change. I will skip staying in Sukhumvit, I find the atmosphere too dirty and depressing in the daytime. But I will definitely take a couple of trips there to see my fave gogos an to do a bit of shopping at T21.

[CzarNicholas]

Good rack. I don't know when you were last in AC but I have to tell you this. You couldn't be more wrong with your impression about AC. Sure, it ain't BKK. But there are enough high quality girls to fill up a week or two easily. Needs a bit of legwork though.

Disclaimer. One man's treasure is another man's trash.

Well-stated!

[CzarNicholas]

On the average, girls there in AC are less attractive (in my opinion). I think Baccara by itself has more hot girls than all of AC.

I will say that I wanted to get to AC to sample the famous Elsa a while back when she first hit the scene. She was probably the hottest girl I have seen working AC. Then again, I like girls with big natural tits.

Her tits are too big to me.

Not to mention they are probably fake.

And she looks old LOL.

Over 25 (in Asia is over the hill).

So this is what you consider top 2-3?

I probably wouldn't want to waste a bullet on her.

Maybe if she was closer to 18 yo rather than closer to 28 yo?

With smaller natural boobs.

[CzarNicholas]

If AC was so bad then why did you stay there 4 months?

Why do you think?

[Blanquiceleste]

On the average, girls there in AC are less attractive (in my opinion). I think Baccara by itself has more hot girls than all of AC.

I will say that I wanted to get to AC to sample the famous Elsa a while back when she first hit the scene. She was probably the hottest girl I have seen working AC. Then again, I like girls with big natural tits.

Good rack. I don't know when you were last in AC but I have to tell you this. You couldn't be more wrong with your impression about AC. Sure, it ain't BKK. But there are enough high quality girls to fill up a week or two easily. Needs a bit of legwork though.

Disclaimer. One man's treasure is another man's trash.

[Mogwai]

I was in AC for almost 4 months and I don't miss it, at all.

AC is a vile septic tank, with low prices.
BKK has quality girls, but will cost you more.
You have to do the cost benefit ratio analysis, I had some girls tell me serious quotes of 20000 in AC (I would give them 1000).
But I'm guessing some (desperate duans) are paying it.
I feel AC is bad for the "soul" with such abject poverty and filth (monster roaches everywhere).
I don't know if ill ever go back, I may?

If AC was so bad then why did you stay there 4 months?

[Smoothy]

Would you call this ugly? Does anyone else think this is ugly? This is from August 2018. One of the bars on Perimeter Road.

And the girl looks exactly like this in person. Flawless body, fantastic in bed, good attitude, 3 holer, meets the performance criteria of ET, the works.

On the average, girls there in AC are less attractive (in my opinion). I think Baccara by itself has more hot girls than all of AC.

I will say that I wanted to get to AC to sample the famous Elsa a while back when she first hit the scene. She was probably the hottest girl I have seen working AC. Then again, I like girls with big natural tits.

[Smoothy]

AC is a vile septic tank, with low prices.

I don't think anyone would argue that. Soi 6 in Pattaya is the same. There are also areas like that in Indonesia, I just don't prefer to go to them.

[CzarNicholas]

Angeles City is known for cheap girls that speak good English right? Can you say why you miss Thailand and not AC. I would have no clue at all, myself.

Speaking English is over rated, many don't speak it that well, or understand it that well.

I have found English is unimportant for sex, I just had the most magikal sex of my life in Russia with a hooker that didn't speak one word of English and we didn't even use google translate.

AC is a vile septic tank, with low prices.

BKK has quality girls, but will cost you more.

You have to do the cost benefit ratio analysis, I had some girls tell me serious quotes of 20000 in AC (I would give them 1000).

But I'm guessing some (desperate duans) are paying it.

I feel AC is bad for the "soul" with such abject poverty and filth (monster roaches everywhere).

I don't know if ill ever go back, I may?

[Penguin69]

Would you call this ugly? Does anyone else think this is ugly? This is from August 2018. One of the bars on Perimeter Road.

And the girl looks exactly like this in person. Flawless body, fantastic in bed, good attitude, 3 holer, meets the performance criteria of ET, the works.

Just kidding'. I certainly wouldn't kick either of them out of bed if they broke wind.

[Socker]

Excerpts from my TR on my favorite board, Philippines at Night.

Been here for 5 days and finally got laid last night from a Patpong BG (black pagoda) in her early 30's. She had the magic and was easy going. Body was pretty nice and I went down on her (I'm lazy, she rode my face) and her me, that was it. No need for the condom I bought enroute to hotel because of her excellent BJ skills. It was a good release, face / lips / & hand jackhammer action. There was no doubt she would conquer all the beer inside me. After that she was out the door with in 5 minutes. Then I slept hard w out the need for sleeping aids, very rare for me these days.

I arrived on Thursday and starting Friday at 12 midnight it was a Buddha holiday so no liquor for 24 hours ending on Sunday morning at 12:01 so didn't bother going out either night. I'm not the same horn dog I was 2 years ago so no inconvenience, I waited.

Just 30 minutes ago I returned from the Biergarten where there were 2 I made a date w for tomorrow, we'll see. They look like they could be an exceptional 3 some, we'll see. Tonight I'm saving myself for Nana Plaza otherwise I would have work them today. I really don't trust Beergarten chics these days and what's under their clothes. This place used to be pretty good, we'll see mañana.

Last night I barhopped w my rental on SC and saw the obligatory stunners everywhere. I will shoot for a couple of those as well. I have plenty of time before I leave for Shanghai, no action there unfortunately.

Next Day.

Before I start the Netflix portion of my vacation night (10:30 pm) I'll report here. Went to Nana at 7:45 and too early, dancing starts at 8 pm. Went to a few bars, AngelWitch, 1 worthy dancer w young proud tits and pigtails. The Rainbow Bars which #4 is the best, 5 young stunners in there and Lolipops w some nice talent but not as abundant as Rainbow. Also popped into Billboards w one standout half nude. Tonight I just wanted to look. I'll return and see what I can get myself into during the week. I can't force myself to give up on the stunners yet.

A few of these women I'd pay to stomp on me. Okay on to Netflix.

Next Day.

Yesterday I connected w the BG from Black Pagoda (no BF) and we went out last night to Nana. After a few beers I was into the date and loving all the eye candy on stage. Played some pool and a bite at Gulivers and then on to some spectacular sex. This lady is unusual in that she knows what she's doing and loves it. I enjoyed some rare bareback action as she just wanted it as bad as I. Her pussy was dripping wet as I slide jr. Around on the outside of it. Boom, inside. Couldn't finish while going back and forth from pussy to mouth but she was a storm trooping dick sucking honey, emitting all kinds of delightful sexy noises as she tried to finish me off w her mouth and to my surprise she did.

Best sex in quite a while for me. Wow.

Tonight I'll return to Nana for a stunner. I met a couple last night and told them I'd return so that's the plan. Some of these Thai dancers are seriously beautiful. I bought a LD for one last night at Billboards and she was as nice as can be. She was dancing half nude so I know how good it will be. Her little hidden pussy has to be incredible.

Next Day.

I stayed in last night. That's how it is w me now, 1 per day is not mentally needed right now. I don't like it but it helps in affording the cost of working hot BGs in BKK. As it is here, the bar wants 1 k and the BG 3 k (or more), add drinks from where you found her and it's another k. Then a 3 bar BH w / out food is another 1. 5 k total, 6. 5 k, incidentals 7 k.

So if I go for it every other night it adds up to 3. 5 k per night on pussy and brews. Now that's a tolerable number for me, plus I should get no less than 8's which are pure gold if they deliver in the room. There are 9's here and there which I will try for if I get a decent vibe from the stage. Do or die tonight as the warden (wife) returns from Taipei mañana. After that it will ST hotels and I plan to hunt more while she's in the room.

Next Day.

After 3 bars I went back to Billboards to find the honey I tabled briefly. Her name is * and I didn't see her at first. I sat over at the carousel and wasn't tempted from what I saw. Then I notice more ladies joined the jacuzzi area and seats opened up so I headed there and watched some nice nudes, half silicone, half not. Since I"the been to 3 bars I felt I was being a prudent shopper and justifiably ready to pull the trigger. A few in the jacuzzi were very fresh and then I see a very pretty light skinned girl standing on the edge of the tub. I look and smile at the ladies but the white one has the tits I want.

I call her down for my first table and ask her her name. She looks at me and laughs, pause. You're not * are you?? Yes she says. You said you come last night but you no come. I say, I'm here now (and happy about it). She's sexy as hell and not shy. Eventually the second drink topic comes up and I say if she BFs I'll buy that drink. She says I'll go w you. (the beginning of a very good thing).

We bar hop a little and get a little smashed and then the room. Her porcelain body was something to behold w nice round be cups and the smallest pussy possible. She was ready for action and gave and got it. Her BJ skills were impressive and I worked that pussy as best I could. Then Thai rubber time which didn't last because I don't have lube and it wouldn't matter for me if I did. So I got out of that thing and took her to the warm shower where she stroked Jr and then knelt down for a better work angle. After a bit I was polishing her nipple w my equipment and surprisingly busted a nut.

She is awesome and she made my day perfect. She was against all photos. I'm 2 for 2 in "the great sex department". I"ll have to see her again.

Okay, no sleeping pills needed, brews and pussy work very well.

More Later.

[Blanquiceleste]

I don't know why he thinks that, but I don't like AC because the girls are ugly. They are more like soi 6 girls in Pattaya than girls in Bangkok.

Would you call this ugly? Does anyone else think this is ugly? This is from August 2018. One of the bars on Perimeter Road.

And the girl looks exactly like this in person. Flawless body, fantastic in bed, good attitude, 3 holer, meets the performance criteria of ET, the works.